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Sep 20, 2013 7:09 AM

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Damn. The execution is censored. :(

But then again, it got predictable when Leon was starting to look really like guilty.


Sep 23, 2013 10:23 AM

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i think this show is going to be hated by the people that have played the game (mostly) and liked by people that haven't thats what i get from these forum discussions in any case this episode went so FAST the trail was fine, i didn't like the baseball guy when he was just shouting idiot over and over again his reaction was annoying and unconvincing...

also even for me someone who hasn't played the game the execution was disappointing to say the least, that should have been brutal to watch but it was actually rather comical :/ such a shame! other than that its keeping my interest its just 13 episodes to get used to that many characters and get a story in their (which they clearly can't do if they are skipping, deleting stuff that is in the game) was always going to be tough, but i think there doing a plausible job at least
Sep 23, 2013 10:34 AM

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randompadley said:
i think this show is going to be hated by the people that have played the game

You thought right.
Sep 27, 2013 12:40 PM

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Man, can't believe Maizono would do something like that. Betrayal hurts.
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Sep 27, 2013 5:15 PM

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ok so i wasnt expecting much out of this series out of the first episode.
but now all i can say is wow! this is some good anime.
i love everything about it. i understand why they censored the execution but i kinda wanted to see it
Oct 2, 2013 5:52 AM

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Awesome death scene and well quite lovely progress, really liking where this is going! Mystery solving and what not, so lets see what's next!
Oct 9, 2013 8:33 AM
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Well I watched the Game Execution and for me it's almost the same as the Anime Execution.

Wow I really love solving mysteries it's so awesome :3 good thing that the MC did something to solve the case I thought he's just going to stand there but he's kinda awesome and I like Kirigiri :3 I'm enjoying this Anime could have been longer though but still I like it.
Oct 17, 2013 8:31 AM

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Their debate/deduction somehow reminded me of Detective Conan :D

Pro baseballer got owned by baseballs... Ouch
He was seriously creepy when he went all moronic
I mainly see the animes... so don't blame me for not knowing about the Manga/LN
Oct 19, 2013 7:52 AM

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Tengai said:
Wow I really love solving mysteries it's so awesome :3

Me too :3

but my thoughts are wrong, oh well till the next class trial.
Nov 24, 2013 1:42 AM
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This episode was by far the most thrilling and the court scenes reminds me so much of the phoenix wright games XD

Funny moments
Dec 7, 2013 4:00 PM

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Definitely seems like its similar at least if not ripped off of Phoenix Wright at least in some aspects of the trial LOL. They even had the objection thing!

This would be much more efficient to figure out if I had all the evidence in front of me as well as all the names of the people and their capabilities.

How did he get that crystal ball anyway and why didn't he get rid of the toolkit? I guess he wasn't really thinking it through since it wasn't a planned murder. I saw leoll as the name reading it the other way since that is a common way to solve mysteries with a random number but I read it as ll instead of N because I didn't examine it thoroughly enough. I didn't have any names in front of me so it was difficult to see that it was actually Leon.

Though if the culprit wrote the dying message himself, then I think it would almost be game over for the rest of them because that was their biggest basis on suspecting Leon. But then there was the toolkit so maybe but he could have just said that he had to fix something like his bathroom door. (Although then the MC knows that all guy doors except for his were installed correctly).

This culprit did not necessarily have to be a guy either although it is most probably a guy because she would have the biggest chance at attracting a guy because she is an idol. Fearfully if this crime was carried out better (confirming death and getting rid of certain pieces of evidence) it could have screwed them.

Also their investigation needs to check everyone's rooms, I hope they did but it didn't clearly show it. This is since evidence could be hidden in peoples rooms etc.

Motive for the murder was strange as well (if it wasn't just to get out of the school). The murder does not seem to be planned.

Why would he have to kill her? He already put her into a corner by turning the tables and having her hide in the bathroom. All he had to do was leave, lock himself in his room and report the incident the next morning.

Killing was not needed, yet you can see by the room that there was a major struggle to murder the victim. This can be explained by the marks being made by the victim but this is unlikely since the marks seem to have the intention to have a intent to get into the bathroom.

Therefore it seems to me that the only good reason he really wanted to kill her for the reason of finding a good opportunity to get out of the school.

"I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika
Dec 30, 2013 6:02 AM

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The Execution moment was epic! xD
Jan 19, 2014 8:30 PM
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I'm glad that they killed that guy. His character design was just too awful.
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Feb 5, 2014 1:24 PM

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I KNEW IT

well i didn't know it lol but i knew that i did not trust that girl. i'm glad she is gone so early in the show.
i did not like her at all
Mar 21, 2014 8:50 AM
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Eh, I don't mind the censor. It's pretty much the same. Also it's suppose to be teen, right? I don't like how they left out that it wasn't really self defense since he had to run back to his room and get that tool kit then proceed to unscrew it and then stab her. Yeah, not really self defense. Leon deserved it. Maybe in not such a cruel way but you know what I mean. So far that's my main huge complaint. Well aside from the fact that all the evidence felt so rush that I felt like they where just making up shit on the way lol.

Edit: Also I think this was the most easy murder in the game because of the writing. I already figured out as soon as I saw that, that it was a name not some numbers. (I wonder if they'll point out that Maizono isn't so bad since she decided to say who killed her to save everyone) So I guess she received "Not being a bigger asshole you could of been award"
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Apr 27, 2014 11:19 PM
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I loved how he used one of Maizono tricks at the end. Hes psychic lol.
May 27, 2014 10:07 AM

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I don't think that death was 'brutal' at all.
Also, Maizono reference at the end. D'aw.
May 27, 2014 11:38 AM

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seriously tons of guys nitpicking on details.

just play the game. or watch the lets play from someone else. or read it.
seriously, the anime skipped tons of investigation points and character interactions. i am really serious.

for those who enjoyed the anime, just play the game or watch a lets play (i personally enjoy it from the youtuber NicoB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MMQA_2Eom0&list=PL5bkYBlFL9xd3xEzhbmWzj9E8_kDKrTfr
or just read it http://lparchive.org/Dangan-Ronpa/
current LN reading:
Death March kara hajimaru isekai kyousoukyoku
translated here
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Jun 14, 2014 8:43 PM

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I like the episode but it seems kinda rushed expect for the actual game. But I understand it because the staffs have limited time for Naegi to investigate more before the class trial.

I'm glad to play the game first before watching this, because I have no problem in coping for one's death(at first when I first time played the game, I nearly cried because of numerous deaths) and I have no problem in understanding every situation.

R.I.P, Leon Kuwata.
Jun 14, 2014 8:45 PM

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Urek said:
seriously tons of guys nitpicking on details.

just play the game. or watch the lets play from someone else. or read it.
seriously, the anime skipped tons of investigation points and character interactions. i am really serious.


This. I'm glad I played the game first in the psp.
Jul 12, 2014 2:27 AM

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Kuwata got tenderized. Ick.
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Aug 2, 2014 12:41 AM

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Hmmm. . . well this episode was more interesting than the previous one.
Aug 2, 2014 12:42 AM

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Bradherley said:
aaw they censored the execution. tch


Also, this. The censorship was quite meh for me.
Aug 26, 2014 1:10 AM

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That was pretty good. I can tell that the game might be fun to play. I'll get it sometime later. For sure I thought it was the guy with the glass ball. Damn, she was going to stab him in the back! Literally! 3 down, 12 left. I wonder who's going to make it out? If it's the main character that would suck. It would be too obvious for him to live.
Sep 27, 2014 12:17 PM

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The bear pisses me off so much haha omg I just want to strangle it. Other than that I really like this.
Nov 19, 2014 10:04 PM

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ihateeveryone said:
If you're really interested in seeing the scene in all its brutality, just watch it here.


I think it would be better if those balls were replaced with metal ones.
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Apr 7, 2015 4:08 AM

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Bad adaptation. The anime version fail's miserably setting the mood thanks to having to squeeze so much content into 13 episode series.

The game really hooked me up at the beginning but i feel absolutely nothing while watching the series so far.

Everything happens so quickly that you don't have no reason to care about the characters and there's zero tension.
Apr 26, 2015 8:45 PM

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Really great episode. That execution, damn...O_O
Sep 26, 2015 10:57 AM

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Oohh I'm liking this Kyouko girl

Leon is dead. Ha! He's bad at lying lol. But Sayaka is the real meanie here. She tried to kill Leon...

Oct 17, 2015 2:10 PM

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Quit screaming kill or be killed

Dec 13, 2015 8:19 AM

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Ok... so someone who planned an assassination and failed, in his last breath was thinking in save someone she is not close when writing the culprit's name on the wall....

Ok, ok.. that was not to avenge her death... Ok... got it.
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Feb 21, 2016 2:18 PM

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It took them long enough to get that it said Leon on the wall >>

I guessed Maizano had planned on killing someone and gotten that weapon used against her as there was another weapon.

Using the baseball to put the furnace on was a good idea.

Getting killed by baseballs, guessed that but didn't really show it properly.

The manga panel bits and other bits during the trial were really kinda odd though :/

Never played the game though so I guess it happens like that maybe in that, I dunno.

Who's next I wonder.
Mar 9, 2016 10:24 PM

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Good episode...................
Apr 25, 2016 9:40 PM

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Monokuma and his Winnie the Pooh honeypot.

I wanted to see how Kuwata killed her tbh.

How he broke her wrists and whatnot. Also, I need to find an uncensored version, if there is one. I need to see the blood.

The second death was more brutal though. I'd expect nothing less from Monokuma and his punishments.
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May 23, 2016 8:18 PM

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Got to be honest, not really thrilled with all the gameplay mechanics still popping up during the class trial. I guess it's suppose to keep things more visually interesting but the truth bullets popping up seemed a little shoe-horned in. Or even highlighting the important dialogue that Makoto's going to "shoot" with the aforementioned bullet. It's necessary to do this in the game, since there are multiple lines of dialogue to choose from & multiple bullets you could shoot making it something you had to think about, keeping you involved in the experience. However when it's condensed like this in anime form, it removes suspense & involvement. By emphasizing Leon's "We're out of clues" dialogue, the anime is straight up informing you of it's importance immediately rather than letting Makoto's "You're wrong" be more of a surprise. It also weakens the impact of that line when it's letting you know it's going to happen.

I kinda like how they intercut some of the comic panels throughout the episode though, instead of saving the whole thing for Makoto's case recap. Outside of that decision though, they didn't seem to do a lot to re-contextualize the game mechanics for an anime adaptation.

Speaking of adaptation, I was pretty upset that they just left Leon's self-defense excuse out in the open. I preferred how the game took the time to call him out on that BS. Specifically, it was Celeste if I recall correctly. But on the other hand, I thought they handled the Kyoko/Makoto scene at the end of the episode pretty nicely.
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Jun 23, 2016 8:13 PM

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so they all just watched the execution?..
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´。✪ω✪。`)

I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P

I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;)
Jul 31, 2016 7:08 AM

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What the heck was that punishment, seriously lmao
Sep 29, 2016 2:21 PM

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lol the execution was actually brutal af
Nov 29, 2016 5:27 AM
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Kurata Leon spoke in plural before death, that means, in the room stayed, him, the idol death and another person, and i think that other person try to kill him!!!!

So that, i think in the possible episode will watched another murder!!!
Dec 17, 2016 12:36 AM

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Damn, son. I feel so bad for Leon, to die from something you love :(

1000 hits from baseballs :(((
Feb 7, 2017 4:01 AM
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I liked what they did with the MC and the idol girl.

There's no way I could've known who the culprit was though; the dying message was his name which I couldn't remember, the other clue was that it needed a pitcher which we only saw for a split second during everyone's introduction and the final clue was that he used his toolkit where he just could've used the knife instead.
Sep 18, 2017 6:35 PM

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That silence after Sakura revealed herself. lol
Dat objection! Sore wa chigau yo!
lol at Hifumi being interested in 2D.
Dat objection.
It was Leon?
Leon losing his shit.
Dat punishment. It's like a penalty game.
Oh snap. Kyouko coming to Makoto's room.
Makoto is an esper.
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Sep 21, 2017 4:09 PM

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lol Monokuma face after the execution was priceless.

The first execution is finished. I really can't remember who is the next to die.
May 21, 2018 6:32 AM
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The trial seemed too short, took way longer in the VN, could anyone make sense of what happened if they hadnt read the VN?
Still RIP Leon and Sayaka, the real culprit is Monokuma...
Mar 15, 2019 9:09 PM

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Awesome detective work and an interesting trial.
I am not a weeb, I simply enjoy 2D girls
Jul 13, 2019 1:06 PM

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Then Leon killed her.
I'm wondering who would be next
Jul 25, 2019 6:06 AM

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That was a terrible way to die....
and to think that our girl tried to kill at first...
Oct 1, 2019 11:56 AM

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I've read some reviews before watching the anime and honestly while reading the negative reviews I thought I shouldn't watch the anime but the plot keep me interested well now I know the couse of those negative reviews. The plot is 10 itself but the problem is the animation and the sound track it self.

If you guys want to create something related to horror and mystery then make the blood color red what is the meaning of pink color blood are they some kind of special species who carry pink blood in there blood vessels stop the stupid crap already :/
Oct 13, 2019 6:21 AM

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I just finished playing the game before trying my luck with this anime and I'm quite disappointed sadly. Understandably, having only 13 episodes, 20 min each, to work with means you're gonna have to cut down on some of the in-game content, but I'm sorry to say that cutting away the days the characters spend with each other, thus leaving the viewer no time to connect or care about any of them, is just awful. The last lines of this episode especially, tells of how little we know about any of them. Makoto saying he was "psychic" is a nice callback to all the times Maizono used that joke on him in the game, but I believe we were only shown something similar to that once in the last couple of episodes, leaving the fact he joked with Kyoko about it, going over the viewers heads. The thing that made the game fun was leaving the player a bunch clues and having them piece the murder together and then present it in the trial phase, while here, the investigation part was completely cut and the viewer were only shown a bunch of objects, with no thought process behind them, leaving the viewer being spoonfed the series of events that was the murder in the trial. Where's the fun in solving a murder mystery if the viewer doesn't actually do any solving? My point is, if you went into this anime thinking you were gonna follow along on a fun mystery solving story, you are gonna be disappointed. I think I'm gonna spend my time elsewhere. Play the game instead.
Best boys <3


Apr 22, 2020 6:30 PM
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Damn it was Leon, really interesting explanations, also the OST is great wtf
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