The 90 second anime OP/ED is about to be killed off by Netflix.

Botan-Chan45 said:
Lmao, what a laugh. The Yakuza arent even connected to anime at all.

LilZachhh said:
Dubbed anime can definitely provide the full expierence.

Hoppy said:
You better enjoy them while they last because the ruiners of anime (aka Netflix) is going to cut them short if not phased out.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-09-11/anime-music-producer-predicts-the-end-of-the-90-second-anime-song/.136571

One reason why you don't want anime to go the binge route. You mis out on good OP/ED themes.

Shoryuuken said:

You can't be serious, the Yakuza is involved with almost every form of medium in Japan. I recommend watching documentaries about the Yakuza with actual Yakuza members talking about their influence on the various industries. Never change MAL community.

ezikialrage said:




I am not going to miss the op music.I find most OPs and EDs to be shitty and I don't need to watch the same 90 second scenes and tune over and over again. If I am that hell bent on watching an OP I'll go to youtube or some other website to see OP.

joshua10red said:
F%*k Netflix.. They are destroying the anime industry..

Botan-Chan45 said:
yes, in certain medias, not ones like anime where yakuza are portayed as thugs

assyrian said:
How can people say they skip the OP and the ED? I get the ED but the OP is supposed to set the mood and I always watch it.

Botan-Chan45 said:
everybody can tell you dont like op and eds by ur avatar and pfp. a man of culture tho

changelog said:
I don't understand why people are so triggered by this. I don't see how Netflix is "destroying" the anime industry, either. In fact, if they are doing anything, they are improving it by giving high-quality legal access to the anime in the west. Crunchyroll is pretty much a waste of your money, too.

I understand that openings and endings are important to a lot of people, including me, but the anime industry isn't going to crash just because themes are bit shorter or are removed.

Also, you aren't forced to skip the opening of the show... it's your choice. I find the skip option convenient as most of the time I binge anime.

ezikialrage said:


Not liking shitty music and not wanting to watch the same scenes over and over again IE most OPs and ED out there does not make me uncultured. You are not going to miss any part of the story if you miss the op and ed..No do you need to watch it 12, 24 or how over many times the same OP and ED are shown.

DarkInsomnia57 said:
Pullman, you're the one generalizing and not making an actual statement or argument. No one here ever said they hated 20 minutes of anime. (When I say "Trash" and stuff, I'm only being half serious, but humor is subjective. It's a cynical comment, but let me explain) But music is what made me genuinely love anime in the first place. The ops and eds are addictive crack for me and I love them to pieces. I feel like at this point, music is half of what anime is for me. So for me, anime without the music is trash not worth watching, it's 50% of the product. I made no comment on the content of anime besides the music, your statement isn't honest. You're cherry picking and decontextualizing.

I suppose what I am trying to say is, after watching anime for so long, the ops and eds are anime, one cannot dissociate them from the actual product. The songs from Japan are so good, they're a big reason I tune into a show. Something like Witchhunter Robin, the op and ed always got me pumped about the next episode. Ops and eds are what distinguish anime for me, they are what makes it different from American stuff. Sure, the 20 minute actual content is superlative, but without the emphasis on songs, I don't know if I would enjoy anime as much as I do. It would just be a cartoon at that point.

How do I explain the psychological benefit and boost I get from that music? Sure, there's the soundtrack of an anime, the background music, but the ops and eds are what pulled me into anime and I cannot tear those memories away from the actual content at this point.

You're acting like I'm attacking all anime with that statement and getting very worked up about it. It was kind of a joke, but also kind of not. An anime without the ops and eds wouldn't be anime to me at this point.

I think a lot of other anime fans enjoy ops and eds, they always make it onto youtube and the most popular ones get millions of views. You saying you don't care about them more seems to be your personal issue and puts you into a very slight minority. Are you deaf? You haven't enjoyed any ops and eds? As a music fan I'm surprised you can enjoy anime that much, the stories are poppy little trash pieces. I like anime as an experience.

Once again, not trying to speculate on your character like you have mine, not trying to make personal insults. But I feel like you're arguing at a wall right now because you've misconstrued my statement in anger.

"It's a tradition and it's a big reason I ever liked anime in the first place," as I said in my previous statement which you took such careful time to slice into pieces for the convenience of an argument with no one.

Now if you would like to make an argument about how anime can be separated from music and still be great, more power to you. Your argument will be wrong however and based off of what you've said here it's apparent you don't have the power to make such an argument. Anime producers see it as a huge function of anime now (always have, really, it's an inherent part of the package, always has been), and the anime you see will continue to have ops and eds.

konkelo said:
Threads like these always remind me why nerds are bullied and losers.

AnimeMangaNoob said:
I really hope they don't actually get killed off... i love listening to opening and ending songs and never skip them... it sets you off to a good start to enjoy the anime and calms you down at the end of an episode. As it is i hate it when netflix kicks me out of the credits and stops the song to prompt me to go to the next episode forcing me to have to click on 'credits' and go back to the song a few seconds in disrupting it...

zal said:
The article isn't saying that music won't be anymore tho, it just says that it will be cut short in the beginning and used at key moments so it will keep being an "icon" of the anime but in a different way from how we are used to that fits better with the binging watching style.
For example recently I've watched Escaflowne but I don't remember the op, instead I remember that 1 epic soundtrack that kept repeating in the important moments where the shout "Escaflowne" in an epic way. The music producer is saying that OPs might change towards that direction.

Music usually enhances the experience in a positive way, however it's not one of the foundations of anime but something built upon it. You can have great anime with mediocre music too, unless to you good music is essential. Since it's subjective I don't see how his argument is inherently wrong. I am not going to say no music (unless it's a mute show) because nowadays it's unrealistic to have one but theoretically I think it's possible.

"Anime producers see it as a huge function of anime now (always have, really, it's an inherent part of the package, always has been)" is not really wrong but for the wrong reasons, at the beginning was just a way to cut costs. It's with time and budget they started putting more effort into them and with time became iconic.

"the anime you see will continue to have ops and eds."
That's if having a short OP at the beginning won't become a successful trend. What if having cut OP will actually rise the sales of OPs for people who want the full version? Then I can see the trend spreading to other studios that have nothing to do with Netflix.

zal said:
the article says they won't "disappear" but have a shorter version in the beginning (like 30 sec) and played it more often in key points of the anime.

Klad said:
1000% facts. Netflix doing me a favor

GlennMagusHarvey said:
I let it play.

It both provides spacing to the presentation of the show, and sets the tone for it.

They're good for contributing to the show's sense of atmosphere/emotion.

assyrian said:
How can people say they skip the OP and the ED? I get the ED but the OP is supposed to set the mood and I always watch it.

bondtux said:
Netflix is watching online site, right? i've never watch anime online before...

What the purpose of netflix cut the OP/ED intros?