The Current Events Board Will Be Closed on Friday JST

Kosmonaut said:
I do think most CE regulars won't just disappear, they'll just move over to CD. Then, in turn, CD will be more trouble than it's supposedly worth. Still, I don't think this is a matter of difficulty of moderation, but rather of investor money.

Kosmonaut said:
but rather of investor money.

Phraze said:
While I would like to keep up to date with news on MAL, I understand it seems to promote an unfriendly atmosphere (from my browsing it lately). Good call. Hope the MAL team will be able to manage the site better with this move.

I also wonder if accounts were made on this site solely to use the CE boards.

Comic_Sans said:
Good. The next step is to purge all boards not pertaining to anime/manga specific discussions

Fario-P said:
Hardly ever posted in this board, and it seems everyone universally agrees that Casual Events was pretty toxic... eh, rest in piss, I guess.

deg said:
"CD youre next" - All Might

then AD too i guess

deg said:
lol RIP

but how about anime industry related news that can be controversial? is that not allowed in Anime Discussion and Casual Discussions too?

Ryuk9428 said:
I agree with @Milzol, we should just ban people who make dumb/false reports.

As for the OP. Honestly, the rules on both CE and CD are unrealistic. They get violated a lot or people skirt the rules because they are too strict. If people followed them to the letter there'd be no discussion here at all.

Internet forums cannot survive without arguing and a certain level of what is being called "toxic."

I get sick of people saying things like "this is an anime forum, not a X forum." The truth is that every hobby has overlapping interests. People are into this hobby for different reasons and I will admit, politics is a big reason why I got into and am still into anime. I find that anime fans have a unique set of social/ideological views and that's the biggest reason why I am here. I still watch anime plenty, but it gets to a point where there simply isn't much to discuss about the hobby itself and it becomes more interesting to talk about why we like or got involved in this hobby.

In my personal experience, true anime discussions happen much more naturally in real life then they do over the internet because in real life you are actually watching anime with people and can discuss it after each episode. In anime series discussion on the other hand, it is very difficult because often times the anime you watched is old and nobody is really talking about it anymore. Anime series discussion is only really good to on when the series in question is new or currently airing. Meanwhile, AD gets dragged down by repetitive topics that don't add much.

So to be frank, politics is the easiest way to build friendships with people on here. Being into anime is not enough because anime fans don't all think the same way. We're not into the same kind of anime and we're not watching for the same reasons. Knowing a person's political beliefs, however, gives you a much better clue to their personality. Its nice to know that liking anime is the default position here, I don't have to ask that question of somebody, but politics is how you actually get to know each person here imo.

Hoppy said:


Also what about game related stuff such as game censorship in the gaming discussion, people do have to know what they're getting into and buying.

Nurguburu said:
Great news. Despite CE can look interesting, its a very toxic place. In fact, I reported more users in CE than the entire AD and CD combinated. Sometimes I was thinking in blocking somehow this board to avoid typing here. Sometimes is ironic, CE doesn't even look like CE in a strict sense, it was just several left-wing propaganda threads while others neutral or right-wing threads are ignored or they don't even exist. The bias was so obvious at this point.

At least this can help the people who only talk about politics here...so they could watch more anime and read manga/LN/etc. I was invested in politics a lot before and trust me, POLITICS ARE A HUGE WASTE OF TIME. Now, I'm using that time to watch anime and I already watched more than 2020.

Thanks you Luna and everyone.



From my experience in CE, I don't see anyone creating accounts to solely use the CE boards but I know several existing accounts solely use the CE boards while their list is empty, don't watch anime for a long time or its private. If they don't use the CE, they type in controversial threads from CD or AD. Generally, these accounts are left-wing. I hope they realized this is an anime site now.

Meusnier said:
And when you see that on the first page a single user created more than ten threads, it is not too difficult to see where the problem truly lies: a few users have a political agenda. At this rate, it would be advisable to close CD too since one can expect only more controversial threads being created there, and as someone said above, without even having to use a credible source.

RuneRem said:
I completely support decision. CE was a fun 4+ years of my life, all the interactions with Ardanz, Comic_Sans, NiceThings was a lot of fun.
@Bayek
What do you think about this monumental event?

Bayek said:
CE was like Ruth Bader Ginsburg - a corpse that took too long to fully pronounce dead. Alt-right shitposting in 2017 was fun, but the meme magic of Circus Events has been long gone and I can only nod sympathetically to those who still went through the motions till the end.

But props to MAL for breaking the cycle. Better to ban a specific forum for specific reasons than to ban users for arbitrary "guideline violations."

Desolated said:
So you mean 2017 CE has more right-wing people than now? Oh well glad that I didn't touch CE back then.

Bayek said:
Yeah, it was literally 1930's Germany here. Every thread on the front page was pro-Hitler just days before Rule 7 was finally dropped like a bomb on Hiroshima.

Desolated said:
Is this directed against me?

I mean, the reason I seems my threads clutter CE top page was because I can only write stuff here during my spare time. I have 2 jobs so I usually just create threads during the short period of my spare time. If you notice that sometimes I replied very late, it was due to me being at work or deadbeat at home. I mostly just repost what's being posted in the current events channel in the discord server I'm in though. And as for the China topic, I browsed r/sino for the news.

Meusnier said:

Yeah, and you and Nyu probably contributed the most to that pleasant atmosphere. Quite indecent seeing him brag in the above or interact in comments with moderators as if nothing had happened.


Well, the set {users who have more than 10 active threads in CE's front page} has only one element.

I do not really understand why you need to bring up your personal life and get defensive about it, but the point is that you said yourself that you were trying to push a "narrative", that is, a biased view of reality and kept using unreliable sources. Man, you defend North Korea, give me a break. Not to mention this magnum opus of CE joke replies:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1940830&show=0#msg63878401

Desolated said:
Wait how do you know about that 2017 MAL if you join in 2019???

Also I defend EVERY already existing socialist countries, or countries which dominant parties are socialist leaning, not just North Korea. Whether it be China, Cuba, Vietnam, Syria, etc.

Also there isn't any rule here not to "push a narrative", as it's proven that everyone else, especially the right-wingers as all those links I posted before has done the same.

Meusnier said:

I looked up past threads and know a little about the history of the site. Look up threads by Nyu for example.

That just adds to your moral crimes; being a blind defender of any country because it vaguely looks "socialist" only shows a poor understanding of geopolitics.

This is not about the existence of a rule or not for "pushing a narrative", but if you use unreliable sources, you exactly contribute to the clickbait/sensationalist titles and this breaks the basic rule of CE.

Desolated said:
How can you determine which source are reliable and which sources aren't in the first place? I think most of the sources I use are reliable. Not to mention that a lot of them are also from American media which should've be not leftism-friendly.

Poor understanding of geopolitics? what? I mean, those countries are in ally with each other?? I think based on the post I said here, everyone would've know that the countries I hated the most are the US and Israel, and that most of the eastern bloc countries are the one that I strongly support, as well as the recently rising left-leaning leaders in South America against the fascist dictators. Hell, Iran is pretty anti-communist but they're against Israel and US so my threads are generally more of pro-Iran because of that.

deg said:
@Desolated

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

anything news site with high and above on quality reporting is permitted by MAL mods and they use that website always

Meusnier said:

This is the basic source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

Desolated said:
But has it ever occurred to you that the mediabiasfactcheck website itself is biased? I mean, their left-right bias is literally liberal-conservative one, which I consider both to be right-wing. One can simply just put any website which is run by the socialists as biased there because "waa waa socialism bad no iphone vuvuzela". I mean, look at media which operates in the already existing socialist countries. They labelled virtually all of them as bad because of socialism narrative.

Meusnier said:

Yeah, and you and Nyu probably contributed the most to that pleasant atmosphere. Quite indecent seeing him brag in the above or interact in comments with moderators as if nothing had happened.

Bayek said:
I can't take that much credit, though CE was undeniably far livelier & festive in those days. Though even if Rule 7 was lifted and we went back to anything goes, I just can't come back and pretend that ping pong politics is anything more than a trite distraction.

Narmy said:

I hope you realize how dangerous that line of thinking is. If you judge the worth of things by what "most people think", then you'd just end up with a lot of harmless things banned because they offend/disgust other people.

Meusnier said:

And have you found better distraction on other websites? Since political discussions in real life are rather... dangerous.

Scordolo said:
FINALLY! This board was useless anyway. You'll find any kind of toxicity in the replies.

YES!!