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May 13, 2018 8:53 PM
#1
Light novel writer Shirow Shiratori announced his marriage via Twitter. They actually delivered their marriage registration last year, but finally held the ceremony on Saturday because of the Ryuuou no Oshigoto! anime production. Reports have mentioned that his wife isn't from the industry and works in a bookstore. Fellow light novel writer Sou Sagara, who attended their ceremony, mentioned on his Twitter account that they are seven years apart in age and emphasized that it is a legal marriage. He mentioned that they will work hard together from now on. Shiratori is writer of the Nourin and Ryuuou no Oshigoto! light novels, which both received anime adaptations in winter 2014 and this winter, respectively. His other works include Soukai Girls!, Radical Elements, and Union!. Source: Official Twitter |
tsubasaloverMay 13, 2018 11:15 PM
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May 13, 2018 9:12 PM
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May 13, 2018 9:17 PM
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May 13, 2018 10:04 PM
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May 13, 2018 10:09 PM
#5
I have a bad feelings for this. |
May 13, 2018 10:12 PM
#6
Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. |
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May 13, 2018 10:29 PM
#7
Congratulations to the (not so) newlywed. |
May 13, 2018 10:58 PM
#8
When the author was 17 years old, his wife was 10 years old. This sounds familiar. |
May 13, 2018 11:10 PM
#9
What was the reasoning behind the emphasis that the marriage was "legal" and there existed a seven year age gap? Seems like an awkward thing to say in a congratulatory tweet. Otherwise, happy for them! |
May 13, 2018 11:21 PM
#10
Yikes...that's japan for you. You dont need to tell people that your wife is seven year younger then you. But they are both adults so..not a problem. |
May 13, 2018 11:21 PM
#11
@Drachen It has not been officially mentioned, but like some users mentioned here, the fans say that they met when the lady was underaged, but it's legal because she's adult now, which resembling his own light novel Ryuuou no Oshigoto! (Also Sou Sagara mentions her name, which kind of like the name for heroine of the light novel). http://otakomu.jp/archives/718522.html Not sure if I should have mentioned about this, though. |
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May 13, 2018 11:23 PM
#12
tsubasalover said: Ah, thank you. Didn't know much about the series, and it seemed like folks here were just memeing. Legal is legal, though, so good for them.@Drachen It has not been officially mentioned, but like some users mentioned here, the fans say that they met when the lady was underaged, but it's legal because she's adult now, which resembling his own light novel Ryuuou no Oshigoto!. http://otakomu.jp/archives/718522.html |
May 13, 2018 11:54 PM
#13
TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Exactly what I'm thinking |
May 14, 2018 12:04 AM
#14
Well I see some stupid comments here... I don't even know what to say anymore, no offense. *facewall* I know this might be an sarcastic remark but still... not quite a funny type of sarcasm tbh. But hey congratulations to the author and his wife though. xP TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Unfortunately people do tend to say these type of stuff, and it's quite... just ehhh... Idek anymore xD |
May 14, 2018 1:17 AM
#15
Well, considering his work we can be glad he's not marrying a kid lol. |
May 14, 2018 2:36 AM
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May 14, 2018 5:09 AM
#17
"hey guys, look! my wife is legal!" wow, yeah, totally not a sick pedo lmao |
enginesofdemiseMay 14, 2018 12:00 PM
May 14, 2018 5:45 AM
#18
Congrats on the author and his wife though. Hope they are happy together. But in all curiosity, I'm curious whether this relationship had any parallels with his own work. Surely they wouldn't emphasize the "legal" and "seven years apart" in the tweets otherwise. |
May 14, 2018 5:47 AM
#19
enginesofdemise said: "hey guys, look! my wife is legal!" wow, yeah, totally not a sick pedo who has an audience of equally sick pedos how mad are you right now? be honest |
May 14, 2018 6:28 AM
#20
TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. That is the mentally of the world for you, when you stick to the strict kind of rules we should all follow because of morals! It is normal that most people will get bothered by this, the majority of MAL userbase is probably still in its puberty years after all. Once you get older you stop giving a shit, as long as there is love and mutual acceptance from both parties involved, why cant 2 people be happy together?! That said, the writter's actions are a bit more questionable here, considering his background (quite "ironic"), still it is not all sunshine and rainbows having a way younger soulmate than you, not my preference, but good for him I guess. |
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May 14, 2018 7:53 AM
#21
Congrats on your marriage, Sensei. |
May 14, 2018 8:02 AM
#22
i love how people discredit his happiness simply because he is an LN author who just happened that one of it works has lolicon stuff (ironicaly, the rest has enermous breast and tomboys)... does people not learn from yabuki case? how ecchi author can be most innocent one... _______________ anyways congratulation.. hope long and happy marriage... look like it's not a problem since they look already on relationship for years? lOl.... |
May 14, 2018 9:21 AM
#23
Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. |
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May 14, 2018 10:42 AM
#24
lmao so ryuuou is real story |
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May 14, 2018 10:49 AM
#25
Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular |
May 14, 2018 10:51 AM
#26
i wish i could mearry someone 7 year s younger than me |
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May 14, 2018 11:47 AM
#27
Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. |
May 14, 2018 11:55 AM
#28
nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. |
May 14, 2018 12:02 PM
#29
@Hirugiku Same here, I'd like to be able to relax about my aging parents who have no savings and any future family I might have. |
May 14, 2018 12:05 PM
#30
Congrats to him and i wish him well in his new family life. I really enjoyed both the LN for Ryuuou no Oshigoto and its anime adaptation. The anime in particular i thought was really impressive thanks largely to the story and the talented voice cast especially from Ai's seiyuu Rina Hidaka. I hope the series would continue to be popular for years to come. |
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May 14, 2018 4:43 PM
#31
Honestly, the anime was really good until the last arc which just seemed like a forced anime-original arc. If it wasn't anime-only, it still felt that way and was a lame arc. The first 8 episodes or so were a good time though. I'm sure the LN is better in every way. Either way, I wish them happiness and a great future. |
May 14, 2018 6:47 PM
#32
JokerVentura said: Hirugiku said: nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. You need to read more, if you think his garbage is a 7/10, its a 1/10. If he wants to write trash and sell it to idiots, than good for him, it worked for Twilight. But don't say it's good, he clearly knows little about shogi and has a fetish for underage women, his wife choice and history proving it. ofcourse you dont like it, you are like 10 years older than people he writes for |
May 14, 2018 7:36 PM
#33
JokerVentura said: Hirugiku said: nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. You need to read more, if you think his garbage is a 7/10, its a 1/10. If he wants to write trash and sell it to idiots, than good for him, it worked for Twilight. But don't say it's good, he clearly knows little about shogi and has a fetish for underage women, his wife choice and history proving it. sorry, i don't really like shogi neither liking lilicon sither so i have no interest on this series... but most prise coming from this series from how awesome and excelent the shogi part it's also actually get supervised with shogi pros (unlie 3-gatsu, which is why i heard it shogi is better than in 3 gatsu)... it's also actually inspired from actual shigi player IIRC, so the practice is not even that strange (whcih still widely practiced to this days, but what i know is geisha manor).... also if anything that he has fetish inspiring his works, it should be big breast tomboy, because it exist first and more often like in nourin, radical element, and even his latest works Union.... |
May 14, 2018 7:44 PM
#34
JokerVentura said: TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Hmmm, given his friend had to point out that she is legal and his history of writing badly written shogi novels with underage girls, it seems like if anyone is a sick puppy, than it's him. But your need to defend him tells me, you probably shouldn't be allowed near schools.....bad otaku, do we have to neuter you? Isn't this a bit of a stretch that leads to assumptions if anything? Also, while I haven't read the novels, clearly the anime isn't the best representation of the novels themselves from my understanding. Unless you have read the novels and can actually prove as such. But I highly doubt it being the case. Along with that, it doesn't prove anything. His history with writing the series and the relationship with his current wife has nothing to do with it to be honest. I'm just saying because this all seems more of assuming than actually coming to a conclusion. Also this only leads to baseless assumptions than anything and that leads to nothing. Both for the author, and the person you're trying to respond to. Edit: I think you MIGHT have read the novels, however. This doesn't prove much of your point considering they're two different things. |
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May 15, 2018 1:10 AM
#35
Hirugiku said: Popular hardly means good. Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular |
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May 15, 2018 2:09 AM
#36
JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Hmmm, given his friend had to point out that she is legal and his history of writing badly written shogi novels with underage girls, it seems like if anyone is a sick puppy, than it's him. But your need to defend him tells me, you probably shouldn't be allowed near schools.....bad otaku, do we have to neuter you? Isn't this a bit of a stretch that leads to assumptions if anything? Also, while I haven't read the novels, clearly the anime isn't the best representation of the novels themselves from my understanding. Unless you have read the novels and can actually prove as such. But I highly doubt it being the case. Along with that, it doesn't prove anything. His history with writing the series and the relationship with his current wife has nothing to do with it to be honest. I'm just saying because this all seems more of assuming than actually coming to a conclusion. Also this only leads to baseless assumptions than anything and that leads to nothing. Both for the author, and the person you're trying to respond to. Edit: I think you MIGHT have read the novels, however. This doesn't prove much of your point considering they're two different things. Watched the anime, not read the novels, I have standards when it comes to reading. Not just this, but Nourin show he has a fetish for young girls and he marries a barely legal woman. When you piece together facts, to form an opinion, it's not just an assumption, there is no smoke without fire. I can see this writer turning out like Nobuhiro Watsuki. So only 2 series and from what I remember, Nourin was set in highschool, so comparing that with Ryuuou no Oshigoto is a bit of a stretch personally. Here's the thing that breaks the argument, even if he wrote these things, that does not equate to such. For all we know, there could be more to it. We have no dates for them being together, and even then it seems like they knew what they were deciding through. And again, I think you are just jumping the gun here. Seeing how this doesn't seem like something blowing out of proportions. Oh yeah btw: I saw what you wrote there regarding of the 3gatsu and Ryuuou comparison. They're hardly comparable (and no do not give me one is good and the other is shit, there's no way around that). 3gatsu especially on 2nd season focuses more on the characters than the actual shogi, where as the shogi part is more of a subplot element. Aka is not the main importance of the anime. Ryuuou actually focuses on it more than 3gatsu ever did (by no means great, but still something worth noting) especially given that 3gatsu's main focus is the drama, especially 2nd season when the entire shogi part is not that relevant as much. I will agree that Ryuuou no Oshigoto isn't amazing. I won't deny that (heck for someone that enjoyed it I had issues), but maybe this is more of overblowing because there's no legit connection to the conclusion. Just because he does it that does not equate to "pedophile" as a pedophile by definition would be attracted to actual children. In Watsuki's case, its completely different because he was exposed for having over 100 discs full of porn with underaged children, which is the line that should never go across. In the guy's case this is more jumping the gun since there's no concrete evidence of such, or becoming one. Unless there's further information about it. And also before you go onto my case for defending the guy (which apparently being the case, however its more so clarifying since there's nothing), well here's the thing: As far as I'm seeing, there's really no real connection to make to such conclusions. It's baseless assumptions connecting to work that leads to real life, even though we don't have any information for example how many years were they together. For all we know, it would be few years before hand. We don't know specifics to make such conclusions. |
May 15, 2018 3:30 AM
#37
JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Hmmm, given his friend had to point out that she is legal and his history of writing badly written shogi novels with underage girls, it seems like if anyone is a sick puppy, than it's him. But your need to defend him tells me, you probably shouldn't be allowed near schools.....bad otaku, do we have to neuter you? Isn't this a bit of a stretch that leads to assumptions if anything? Also, while I haven't read the novels, clearly the anime isn't the best representation of the novels themselves from my understanding. Unless you have read the novels and can actually prove as such. But I highly doubt it being the case. Along with that, it doesn't prove anything. His history with writing the series and the relationship with his current wife has nothing to do with it to be honest. I'm just saying because this all seems more of assuming than actually coming to a conclusion. Also this only leads to baseless assumptions than anything and that leads to nothing. Both for the author, and the person you're trying to respond to. Edit: I think you MIGHT have read the novels, however. This doesn't prove much of your point considering they're two different things. Watched the anime, not read the novels, I have standards when it comes to reading. Not just this, but Nourin show he has a fetish for young girls and he marries a barely legal woman. When you piece together facts, to form an opinion, it's not just an assumption, there is no smoke without fire. I can see this writer turning out like Nobuhiro Watsuki. So only 2 series and from what I remember, Nourin was set in highschool, so comparing that with Ryuuou no Oshigoto is a bit of a stretch personally. Here's the thing that breaks the argument, even if he wrote these things, that does not equate to such. For all we know, there could be more to it. We have no dates for them being together, and even then it seems like they knew what they were deciding through. And again, I think you are just jumping the gun here. Seeing how this doesn't seem like something blowing out of proportions. Oh yeah btw: I saw what you wrote there regarding of the 3gatsu and Ryuuou comparison. They're hardly comparable (and no do not give me one is good and the other is shit, there's no way around that). 3gatsu especially on 2nd season focuses more on the characters than the actual shogi, where as the shogi part is more of a subplot element. Aka is not the main importance of the anime. Ryuuou actually focuses on it more than 3gatsu ever did (by no means great, but still something worth noting) especially given that 3gatsu's main focus is the drama, especially 2nd season when the entire shogi part is not that relevant as much. I will agree that Ryuuou no Oshigoto isn't amazing. I won't deny that (heck for someone that enjoyed it I had issues), but maybe this is more of overblowing because there's no legit connection to the conclusion. Just because he does it that does not equate to "pedophile" as a pedophile by definition would be attracted to actual children. In Watsuki's case, its completely different because he was exposed for having over 100 discs full of porn with underaged children, which is the line that should never go across. In the guy's case this is more jumping the gun since there's no concrete evidence of such, or becoming one. Unless there's further information about it. And also before you go onto my case for defending the guy (which apparently being the case, however its more so clarifying since there's nothing), well here's the thing: As far as I'm seeing, there's really no real connection to make to such conclusions. It's baseless assumptions connecting to work that leads to real life, even though we don't have any information for example how many years were they together. For all we know, it would be few years before hand. We don't know specifics to make such conclusions. Nikaidou's explainations of Shogi alone are more indepth than what Ryuu does. Hell the main character is suppose to be a professional and champion and in the series he learns a technique that is also mentioned in 3-Gatsu, except they already know it and they're not even champions. Plus the whole idea of a 9 year old becoming a pro after less than a year playing shogi, is an insult to shogi. Also he is writing a story where a nine year old is sexualised, that is FACT. There is no defence for it and nobody normal would write that story. Fine, have a 9 year old apprentice, that is ok, but don't sexualise and write messed up scenarios, that is WRONG and ABNORMAL. Okay but what does that change anything of my argument though? You're saying that it is in depth but it's less focused on. My point is that the fact that 3gatsu has more focus on the drama itself, where as the shogi part is only a part that enhances said drama. I just see the shogi part as a way to enhance the actual focus on, and even then (personal opinion) if I have to say something... even then 3gatsu's shogi aspect in itself is boring at best. Subjectivity is debated of course, and I understand that it is utilized but even I didn't even liked it that much, I'd say. But again, its more of enhancement rather than an important factor imo. I don't think the fact that a 9-year old going and participating in shogi is inherently a bad thing. Or well becoming a pro. I think the main problem mostly stems from the execution rather than that in itself. And I am not defending the sexualization in itself (even though I got so used to it since I watched a lot, as long as it doesn't legitimately people irl I don't give much of a shit anyways) but it's just bad to assume what he does irl or what he decides to do. That's the entire point I'm trying to get across. Which is REALLY baseless to assume things by jumping the gun doing that. There's nothing other than what he writes, and that's it. And when people are trying to get across with it, people will jump on others for it. I get that morals are a thing, but this is a lot to where I actually can't stomach it. Again, you jumped onto someone for saying something against what others said even though its self-explainatory. His writing style (in a lot of cases) =/= Him as a person. This is about the people calling someone a pedo for writing something that not a lot of people are fond of, and people making pretty poorly-executed jokes that comes off as more as jabs than anything. Trust I love me some good ol' pot-shots but these don't come off rather well. You can argue that writing stuff like this is a form of expression and perception of each one of the authors but that wouldn't always be the case. Who knows. You can have your set of standards for writing, I have my own as well. And that is completely fine. But again, this is all very baseless since that doesn't lead to anything. A work does not determine one's own self. This is also coming from someone that had read and watched so much of these type of stuff and I'm rather inmune to it at this point, but I don't go off like that. |
May 15, 2018 6:34 AM
#38
JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: Wasshio said: JokerVentura said: TheGeniusBaka said: Fuck all these people man. If this guy was not a ln author people would have not called him pedo. Sick Mentality.Disgusting. Hmmm, given his friend had to point out that she is legal and his history of writing badly written shogi novels with underage girls, it seems like if anyone is a sick puppy, than it's him. But your need to defend him tells me, you probably shouldn't be allowed near schools.....bad otaku, do we have to neuter you? Isn't this a bit of a stretch that leads to assumptions if anything? Also, while I haven't read the novels, clearly the anime isn't the best representation of the novels themselves from my understanding. Unless you have read the novels and can actually prove as such. But I highly doubt it being the case. Along with that, it doesn't prove anything. His history with writing the series and the relationship with his current wife has nothing to do with it to be honest. I'm just saying because this all seems more of assuming than actually coming to a conclusion. Also this only leads to baseless assumptions than anything and that leads to nothing. Both for the author, and the person you're trying to respond to. Edit: I think you MIGHT have read the novels, however. This doesn't prove much of your point considering they're two different things. Watched the anime, not read the novels, I have standards when it comes to reading. Not just this, but Nourin show he has a fetish for young girls and he marries a barely legal woman. When you piece together facts, to form an opinion, it's not just an assumption, there is no smoke without fire. I can see this writer turning out like Nobuhiro Watsuki. So only 2 series and from what I remember, Nourin was set in highschool, so comparing that with Ryuuou no Oshigoto is a bit of a stretch personally. Here's the thing that breaks the argument, even if he wrote these things, that does not equate to such. For all we know, there could be more to it. We have no dates for them being together, and even then it seems like they knew what they were deciding through. And again, I think you are just jumping the gun here. Seeing how this doesn't seem like something blowing out of proportions. Oh yeah btw: I saw what you wrote there regarding of the 3gatsu and Ryuuou comparison. They're hardly comparable (and no do not give me one is good and the other is shit, there's no way around that). 3gatsu especially on 2nd season focuses more on the characters than the actual shogi, where as the shogi part is more of a subplot element. Aka is not the main importance of the anime. Ryuuou actually focuses on it more than 3gatsu ever did (by no means great, but still something worth noting) especially given that 3gatsu's main focus is the drama, especially 2nd season when the entire shogi part is not that relevant as much. I will agree that Ryuuou no Oshigoto isn't amazing. I won't deny that (heck for someone that enjoyed it I had issues), but maybe this is more of overblowing because there's no legit connection to the conclusion. Just because he does it that does not equate to "pedophile" as a pedophile by definition would be attracted to actual children. In Watsuki's case, its completely different because he was exposed for having over 100 discs full of porn with underaged children, which is the line that should never go across. In the guy's case this is more jumping the gun since there's no concrete evidence of such, or becoming one. Unless there's further information about it. And also before you go onto my case for defending the guy (which apparently being the case, however its more so clarifying since there's nothing), well here's the thing: As far as I'm seeing, there's really no real connection to make to such conclusions. It's baseless assumptions connecting to work that leads to real life, even though we don't have any information for example how many years were they together. For all we know, it would be few years before hand. We don't know specifics to make such conclusions. Nikaidou's explainations of Shogi alone are more indepth than what Ryuu does. Hell the main character is suppose to be a professional and champion and in the series he learns a technique that is also mentioned in 3-Gatsu, except they already know it and they're not even champions. Plus the whole idea of a 9 year old becoming a pro after less than a year playing shogi, is an insult to shogi. Also he is writing a story where a nine year old is sexualised, that is FACT. There is no defence for it and nobody normal would write that story. Fine, have a 9 year old apprentice, that is ok, but don't sexualise and write messed up scenarios, that is WRONG and ABNORMAL. Okay but what does that change anything of my argument though? You're saying that it is in depth but it's less focused on. My point is that the fact that 3gatsu has more focus on the drama itself, where as the shogi part is only a part that enhances said drama. I just see the shogi part as a way to enhance the actual focus on, and even then (personal opinion) if I have to say something... even then 3gatsu's shogi aspect in itself is boring at best. Subjectivity is debated of course, and I understand that it is utilized but even I didn't even liked it that much, I'd say. But again, its more of enhancement rather than an important factor imo. I don't think the fact that a 9-year old going and participating in shogi is inherently a bad thing. Or well becoming a pro. I think the main problem mostly stems from the execution rather than that in itself. And I am not defending the sexualization in itself (even though I got so used to it since I watched a lot, as long as it doesn't legitimately people irl I don't give much of a shit anyways) but it's just bad to assume what he does irl or what he decides to do. That's the entire point I'm trying to get across. Which is REALLY baseless to assume things by jumping the gun doing that. There's nothing other than what he writes, and that's it. And when people are trying to get across with it, people will jump on others for it. I get that morals are a thing, but this is a lot to where I actually can't stomach it. Again, you jumped onto someone for saying something against what others said even though its self-explainatory. His writing style (in a lot of cases) =/= Him as a person. This is about the people calling someone a pedo for writing something that not a lot of people are fond of, and people making pretty poorly-executed jokes that comes off as more as jabs than anything. Trust I love me some good ol' pot-shots but these don't come off rather well. You can argue that writing stuff like this is a form of expression and perception of each one of the authors but that wouldn't always be the case. Who knows. You can have your set of standards for writing, I have my own as well. And that is completely fine. But again, this is all very baseless since that doesn't lead to anything. A work does not determine one's own self. This is also coming from someone that had read and watched so much of these type of stuff and I'm rather inmune to it at this point, but I don't go off like that. I get some of your points, but stuff like this makes me angry. This writer is the guy who gives anime/manga ect a bad name. For every 10 amazing manga, LN or Anime, there is shit like this destroying the image of the industry. It pairs a profession like shogi, as a mask for a disgusting harem. And the simple fact is what you write says a lot about you and your fixations. Horror, comedy, drama, whatever you write comes from you and is a part of you. I disagree that what you write doesnt determine one's self, it comes from you and is part of you. Nobody normal would write this sort of story. I've seen some anime that have stepped over the line, but this is the first one that truly disgusted me. Because the shogi really is just a mask to try and explain away the sick shit in the story. Just a note here: I'm just trying to say I'm not trying to discredit what you're saying since again there's an opinion. But I mean, if I have to be HONEST I wrote shitty stories, or whatever that's kinda weird that's near twilight level bullshit but that doesn't equate to me as a person. I guess the reason why I think as such is because of that experience alone along with other things. Now as I've said before. I get it, you don't like this sort of thing. It's fine, and hey I at least commend for the fact that you didn't went out of your way to insult me at the very least for me trying to explain my input about the argument. Because as far as I know you got onto people's skins a bit for liking the series, sooo. I'll commend ya for that. And yeah, I like the show, but I'm aware of its issues and they're clear. I think of it as something fun, and nothing more as such. And that's for the shogi play itself along with some of the characters... yeah they're not good but if they don't annoy me, then I don't really give a lot of damns I guess? Bothering me will be an issue a lot of times. Now at the end of the day its just a thought. I just felt like you were getting onto people's skins for it, and my entire point was that you got onto one's case for defending the guy over a connection that doesn't remotely relate to it. The only thing I can see this working if it's evident the age of consent. But as far as that's concerned, there's no info on that. I just felt like you got onto the skin of someone for saying people are basing him off of something. And nothing more. You can dislike a series, and might dislike an author (I have my own vendetta with Gantz author but that's because the guy pulled so much shit out of his ass for me personally that it actually kills my interest in checking anything further from him again especially after Inuyashiki, and even then that's my own standards of judgement, and yeah I actually don't like his works but eh, even then I wouldn't go too much on the guy anyways, I just have a gripe with his stuff), but unless its clear, I just don't see this claim working. |
May 15, 2018 7:40 AM
#39
JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: Hirugiku said: nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. You need to read more, if you think his garbage is a 7/10, its a 1/10. If he wants to write trash and sell it to idiots, than good for him, it worked for Twilight. But don't say it's good, he clearly knows little about shogi and has a fetish for underage women, his wife choice and history proving it. sorry, i don't really like shogi neither liking lilicon sither so i have no interest on this series... but most prise coming from this series from how awesome and excelent the shogi part it's also actually get supervised with shogi pros (unlie 3-gatsu, which is why i heard it shogi is better than in 3 gatsu)... it's also actually inspired from actual shigi player IIRC, so the practice is not even that strange (whcih still widely practiced to this days, but what i know is geisha manor).... also if anything that he has fetish inspiring his works, it should be big breast tomboy, because it exist first and more often like in nourin, radical element, and even his latest works Union.... No just No, Ive watched this and 3-Gatsu and I know a little about Shogi and it's clear 3 Gatsu knows a LOT more about shogi. This show is an insult to shogi and you're forgetting about Rin in Nourin. MC doesn't want the big booty stacked tomboy, he wants the idol who looks like a child. (Another shit series) well, IIRC, the anime wasn't that faithful, but the play is still stay to the LN, and again, even shogi player prise it... anime just exagrating other part... also again, you only look at character... nourin has lot insight to agricultural hijinks... kind of similiar to gin no saji and moyashimon... while it does that idols is it's main character, pretty sure rin is protrayed like people who already jaded with her business... the nomber 2 heroine is big breasted tomboy anyways... and you doesn't even considering other 2 series i used for example... you simply hate it because there is harem and lolicon element on it... |
KumaMay 15, 2018 7:45 AM
May 15, 2018 8:02 AM
#40
JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: Hirugiku said: nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. You need to read more, if you think his garbage is a 7/10, its a 1/10. If he wants to write trash and sell it to idiots, than good for him, it worked for Twilight. But don't say it's good, he clearly knows little about shogi and has a fetish for underage women, his wife choice and history proving it. sorry, i don't really like shogi neither liking lilicon sither so i have no interest on this series... but most prise coming from this series from how awesome and excelent the shogi part it's also actually get supervised with shogi pros (unlie 3-gatsu, which is why i heard it shogi is better than in 3 gatsu)... it's also actually inspired from actual shigi player IIRC, so the practice is not even that strange (whcih still widely practiced to this days, but what i know is geisha manor).... also if anything that he has fetish inspiring his works, it should be big breast tomboy, because it exist first and more often like in nourin, radical element, and even his latest works Union.... No just No, Ive watched this and 3-Gatsu and I know a little about Shogi and it's clear 3 Gatsu knows a LOT more about shogi. This show is an insult to shogi and you're forgetting about Rin in Nourin. MC doesn't want the big booty stacked tomboy, he wants the idol who looks like a child. (Another shit series) I don't know the other two and yes, Nourin is like an inferior Silver Spoon. So the two I've seen have better much versions, which don't have poor writing and yes suprisingly I have a problem with ecchi harems with nine year old. I don't have a problem with ecchi harems when the characters arent little girls and are good, go figure..... it's your personal taste and morality... not an argument to being an asshole to people works, their life and what they enjot as long it's not harming others... stop you morality high horse and white knighting, it's soo damn annoying and arrogant implying other side automatically wrong... and also determine poor writing... people with gantz and naruto in favorite complain about poor writings? lol, lack of self aware is astonishing... |
May 15, 2018 6:11 PM
#41
What's with the hate comments? My parents are 10 years apart in age and my mom married when she was still a teenager 😤 Also the girl is 18 so it's 100% legal. Congrats to the author |
May 15, 2018 6:17 PM
#42
Salty salty salty. |
May 15, 2018 8:53 PM
#43
JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: well, IIRC, the anime wasn't that faithful, but the play is still stay to the LN, and again, even shogi player prise it... anime just exagrating other part... also again, you only look at character... nourin has lot insight to agricultural hijinks... kind of similiar to gin no saji and moyashimon... and you doesn't even considering oother 2 series i used for example... you simply hate it because there is harem and ecchi element on it...Kuma said: JokerVentura said: Hirugiku said: nDroae said: Disclaimer, I haven't seen/read anything connected to this author, though I think I'll watch No-Rin in 2020 or 2021. Hirugiku said: Antanaru said: Looking outside of industry was a good idea, eh. Maybe she will set him straight and his next work won't be such a trainwreck. All the best I guess. trainwreck? not to defend the anime, but you do realize that its one of the most popular light novels out there right? so maybe not such trainwreck in other's eyes, if its that popular In before the usual tired "just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good," "McDonald's is popular" etc. It's in her own best interest not to discourage him from writing whatever earns the most money, as long as it doesn't mean sacrificing his health or their ability to maintain their relationship. Base pleasure-pandering light novels are the quick and easy way to success, especially if you're not a truly great writer. Sure its not a masterpiece, but at least its decently good, so not a 10 but a 7,i'd rather create something that most people rate 7 but its extremely popular rather than create that "hidden masterpiece" that only a few people seen. You need to read more, if you think his garbage is a 7/10, its a 1/10. If he wants to write trash and sell it to idiots, than good for him, it worked for Twilight. But don't say it's good, he clearly knows little about shogi and has a fetish for underage women, his wife choice and history proving it. sorry, i don't really like shogi neither liking lilicon sither so i have no interest on this series... but most prise coming from this series from how awesome and excelent the shogi part it's also actually get supervised with shogi pros (unlie 3-gatsu, which is why i heard it shogi is better than in 3 gatsu)... it's also actually inspired from actual shigi player IIRC, so the practice is not even that strange (whcih still widely practiced to this days, but what i know is geisha manor).... also if anything that he has fetish inspiring his works, it should be big breast tomboy, because it exist first and more often like in nourin, radical element, and even his latest works Union.... No just No, Ive watched this and 3-Gatsu and I know a little about Shogi and it's clear 3 Gatsu knows a LOT more about shogi. This show is an insult to shogi and you're forgetting about Rin in Nourin. MC doesn't want the big booty stacked tomboy, he wants the idol who looks like a child. (Another shit series) I don't know the other two and yes, Nourin is like an inferior Silver Spoon. So the two I've seen have better much versions, which don't have poor writing and yes suprisingly I have a problem with ecchi harems with nine year old. I don't have a problem with ecchi harems when the characters arent little girls and are good, go figure..... it's your personal taste and morality... not an argument to being an asshole to people works, their life and what they enjot as long it's not harming others... stop you morality high horse and white knighting, it's soo damn annoying and arrogant implying other side automatically wrong... and also determine poor writing... people with gantz and naruto in favorite complain about poor writings? lol, lack of self aware is astonishing... When you sexualise nine years old its not personal morality, anywhere else it's a crime. Not white knighting, don't quote terms you dont understand. If it's arrogant to be against disgusting shit like this, then HELL YES, I am arrogant. I'm leaving this disussion, that people like you exist who defend this amazes me and not in a good way, peace. they are fiction... it's not like they are actually assaulting children... most of lolicon mangaka in fact life normally.... unliess we are talking real life underaged girl, like rurouni kenshin author for example.... he wasn't even has lolicon in the series he draw.... |
May 15, 2018 10:24 PM
#44
JokerVentura said: When you sexualise nine years old its not personal morality, anywhere else it's a crime. Not white knighting, don't quote terms you dont understand. If it's arrogant to be against disgusting shit like this, then HELL YES, I am arrogant. I'm leaving this disussion, that people like you exist who defend this amazes me and not in a good way, peace. I see nothing wrong to sexualize anime girls in the first place, is part of the anime culture and a lot of works are based on this (ecchi, harem, hentai, etc...), they aren't human beings and do not have human rights in the first place, they affect no one, is just mere fiction. I defend these works too since i'm for freedom of speech. Now if people don't like lolis is another matter and is ok, anime and manga cover different genres and aren't for everyone, but nobody is forced to buy or read these works, they need to read something else more close to their personal tastes. Meh, never get some emo people that push drama over trivial things like these like their life is affected, lol. Anyway i always rooted for them, they indeed love each other a lot and is nice that this was long time ago, mean their love is never faded through years, so congrats for the marriage, they are both great artist so together they will create lots of new great works in future. :) |
Fn76May 15, 2018 10:45 PM
May 16, 2018 1:06 AM
#45
Posting on a thread where people are congratulating someone for their marriage to shove your progressive social evangelism down people throats, talk about a desperate proselytist ****. |
DrMondaiNashiMay 19, 2018 1:23 AM
May 16, 2018 3:45 AM
#46
JokerVentura said: DrMondaiNashi said: Posting on a thread were people are congratulating someone for their marriage to shove your progressive social evangelism down people throats, talk about a desperate proselytist ****. Big words, used when you don't understand them. I'm not religious and from my understanding of evangelicals, those weirdos have no problem with underage girls. Also why do you equate a stance against sexualising 9 year old girls with religion? Last time I checked as a human it's wrong, that's why there are laws against it. And calling me a progessive socalist..... so fictional character is more important than an actual human? |
May 16, 2018 5:46 AM
#47
JokerVentura said: Kuma said: JokerVentura said: DrMondaiNashi said: Posting on a thread were people are congratulating someone for their marriage to shove your progressive social evangelism down people throats, talk about a desperate proselytist ****. Big words, used when you don't understand them. I'm not religious and from my understanding of evangelicals, those weirdos have no problem with underage girls. Also why do you equate a stance against sexualising 9 year old girls with religion? Last time I checked as a human it's wrong, that's why there are laws against it. And calling me a progessive socalist..... so fictional character is more important than an actual human? What the hell are you talking about? What did you misread that twisted into that perspective? the 9 years old you try said deemed to get sexualized, is fictional.... |
May 16, 2018 7:29 AM
#48
Seems that pedo is still being used as a blanket term :/ It’s absolutely legal and it was their choice to get married. Honestly, I never knew he wrote Nourin as well. I quite enjoyed the anime while it was airing 4 years ago (wow, four years). There was a segment of Ryuuou no Oshigoto! on NHK World in about February that went in-depth with the first three episodes and it really seems interesting. Love the work they put in on shogi. I congratulate them on their marriage and hope they are happy with each other 😃 👍 |
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May 16, 2018 8:22 PM
#49
I think there is a big misunderstanding going around here. As we know, Shiratori Shirow is 41 years old, so his wife is, obviously, 34. Besides, Sagara-sensei's tweet has a strong comic context, it says "7 years of difference is legal! Undoubtedly legal! Perfectly completely entirely legal!," what is probably intended to joke with the elements of Ryuuou no Oshigoto (And maybe with his own new series?). So, there is no "emphasizing," of course it's completely perfectly entirely legal. I'll not come into the whole lolicon stuff discussion tho, I'm over all this shit already. Edit: So I reread the thread and saw this link: http://otakomu.jp/archives/718522.html (Sorry for not reading it properly before, I'll take care in the future). And what is said is nothing but "The author of Ryuuou no Oshigoto!, Shiratori Shirow got married! His partner is 'a girl that was 10 when he was 17'." This post simply points a relation between their age and the ages of the protagonists of Ryuuou and nowhere is pointed that they've met while underage (The post's source is also Sagara-sensei's tweet, so take your own conclusions). Second, I did read the first pages of the Light Novel (Amazon's "Look Inside") and I kinda liked his style, his writing is pleasant to read and there is indeed enough information about Shogi (So, while you're free to say whatever you want, please refrain from insult something you don't even know, it's not nice). Third, I've wandered through the entire internet and there's no reliable sources about Watsuki-sensei having "more than 100 DVDs", every site I found simply says "Several" and the idea about "Close to 100" appears solely on forums, so I'd appreciate any link on this matter. I think that's all. Ah, by the way, Ryuuou no Oshigoto isn't "just popular," it's well-received among critics, writers, Shogi players, public and even prized (Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! overall 26th place and new series 8th place in 2016, and two consecutive first places in in 2017 and 2018. It also received the 28th Shogi Pen Club Big Prize in 2016). |
UtsuuMay 17, 2018 7:03 AM
May 17, 2018 10:28 PM
#50
Utsuu said: I think there is a big misunderstanding going around here. As we know, Shiratori Shirow is 41 years old, so his wife is, obviously, 34. Besides, Sagara-sensei's tweet has a strong comic context, it says "7 years of difference is legal! Undoubtedly legal! Perfectly completely entirely legal!," what is probably intended to joke with the elements of Ryuuou no Oshigoto (And maybe with his own new series?). So, there is no "emphasizing," of course it's completely perfectly entirely legal. I'll not come into the whole lolicon stuff discussion tho, I'm over all this shit already. Edit: So I reread the thread and saw this link: http://otakomu.jp/archives/718522.html (Sorry for not reading it properly before, I'll take care in the future). And what is said is nothing but "The author of Ryuuou no Oshigoto!, Shiratori Shirow got married! His partner is 'a girl that was 10 when he was 17'." This post simply points a relation between their age and the ages of the protagonists of Ryuuou and nowhere is pointed that they've met while underage (The post's source is also Sagara-sensei's tweet, so take your own conclusions). Second, I did read the first pages of the Light Novel (Amazon's "Look Inside") and I kinda liked his style, his writing is pleasant to read and there is indeed enough information about Shogi (So, while you're free to say whatever you want, please refrain from insult something you don't even know, it's not nice). Third, I've wandered through the entire internet and there's no reliable sources about Watsuki-sensei having "more than 100 DVDs", every site I found simply says "Several" and the idea about "Close to 100" appears solely on forums, so I'd appreciate any link on this matter. I think that's all. Ah, by the way, Ryuuou no Oshigoto isn't "just popular," it's well-received among critics, writers, Shogi players, public and even prized (Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! overall 26th place and new series 8th place in 2016, and two consecutive first places in in 2017 and 2018. It also received the 28th Shogi Pen Club Big Prize in 2016). Thanks for the detailed explanation, some people make a fuss over futile and trivial things as always without gathering any information at all. The superficiality of some people is astouning. |
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