If Anikore and MAL are accurate represntations of Anime reception in Japan and the West respecitvely, what does this mean?
| Note: This was inspired by a post on r/MadokaMagica I know how much MAL loves to debate and talk about scores, and while the topic normally doesn't matter to me, I've always found it intesting how much my fellow MAL denizens like to post about them. Anikore.jp is basically the Japanese version of MAL. And out of curiosity, I went ahead and compared several titles between our own MAL scores and Japan's Anikore scores. Among some of the interesting discoveries were: We do share alot of similiar titles in the top slots, or at least, similiar franchises. Both seasons of Code Geass are solidly in the top 30 (R1 being 8.8 on MAL and 92.3 on Anikore, R2 earning 8.96 and 92.6 respectively), Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood charts quite high on both sites (MAL: 9.25 Anikore: 90.5), the Dissaperance of Haruhi Suzumiya (MAL: 8.77, Anikore: 91.5) and Clannad Afterstory (MAL: 9.03 Anikore: 92.3) also have solid scores. Most shockingly through would be Steins;Gate, which currently has a 9.15 on MAL and sits #1 with a 92.6 at Anikore! Anikore's top list features more works that are considered memorable, even if they aren't necessarily chart-toppers on MAL. Madoka Magica (MAL: 8.48, Anikore 90.4), Ghost in the Shell:SAC (MAL: 8.46, Anikore: 92.4) , Neon Genesis Evangelion (MAL: 8.31, Anikore: 90.2), Angel Beats (MAL: 8.35, Anikore: 90.3) and TTGL (MAL: 8.75, Anikore: 90.4) all have remarkably high rates of success on Anikore. Side note: Oddly enough, the End of Evangelion film actually has a relatively low score on Anikore compared to MAL, with it's Anikore score not quite cracking 80 (79.9) while the MAL score is a solid 8.45. Likewise, Madoka Magica: Rebellion sits at 8.49 on MAL, but sits at a disappointing 79.4 on Anikore! However, Anikore has NO iterations of Gintama beyond the first season (90.2) above a 90, with the next closest only showing up at 83.8 and all the rest being significantly under 75.0! Compare this to MAL, where Gintama covers 3 of the top 10 spots and 5 of the top 15, all of these solidly over a 9.00! On the same note, Kimi no Na Wa, MAL's current high-charting title at 9.26, sits at a mere 79.6 on Anikore! THIS! From one of the most profitable Anime movies ever made! WOW! Anikore also seems to have a strong trend toward titles that are Slice-of-Life or Slice-of-Life Drama, with Hanasaku Iroha (MAL: 8.02, Anikore: 90.2), Hyouka (MAL: 8.16, Anikore: 90.3), Nagi no Asakura (MAL: 8.28, Anikore: 90.6), Chihayafuru (MAL: 8.31, Anikore: 91.2), K-On!!'s Second season (MAL: 8.14, Anikore: 91.2), and AnoHana (MAL: 8.57, Anikore: 91.3) all being squarely top-25 works on Anikore, but only Anohana even coming close to Top 50 on MAL! In conjunction with Slice of Life, Anikore users appear to be friendlier to Popular Shounen titles. I'll point to the aforementioned FMA:B, but add along with it To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (MAL: 7.84, Anikore: 90.4), and Attack on Titan (MAL: 8.52, Anikore: 90.7) are the most blatant examples. But, and this will ruffle alot of peoples feathers, Anikore scores the infamous Sword Art Online (MAL: 7.73) with a whopping 90.7!!!! Lastly, we'll tackle the hallmark of Elistist works itself! The only Elitists title to sit solidly in MAL's top 10! The Legend of the Gaylord Elitists Galactic Heroes, which sits a solid 9.10 on MAL...is only 86.1 on Anikore. (Final Side-Note. The only non-Code Geass mecha to have a top 25 rating on Anikore is Eureka 7, which only has a 8.17 on MAL but a 90.9 on Anikore). SO MAL! Tell us all! What are your thoughts!? Does this mean that Japan is retarded with their taste? They can't understand quality form money-baiting titles!? That the United States should have nuked them a third time? Is this a sign that Japan naturally understands anime better then the West? That the majority of us in the west are hopeless at understanding anime? That the chemicals in the water that have made our frogs gay has also made our taste in anime gay? Or are we really not that different after-all...? Everyone's taste really is shit, and we need to just learn to judge anime based on nose shape and size? |
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| hanasaku iroha sits in its rightful 9+ rating top spot p.a. works banzai i want to vote just Japan has great taste but the pool does not have this option |
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| Here is the ranking. https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/ Steins Gate,2 Code Geass, Monogatari, GiTS: SAC, Clannad After Story,TTGL,Chihayafuru are in the first page. Cool with me. Yes, we do share similar titles in the top slots. Hmm..maybe having a universal criteria/standard might be possible, thus Steins Gate, Code Geass, Clannad AS will be consider as objectively good(assuming such thing exist) anime. |
ZapredonAug 13, 2017 11:15 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| always though that the west taste in anime was better ,but after seeing that that trashy comedy anime called gintama isn't as much overated as it is on mal and after looking at the great score that Japan gave to sao and toradora and after I discovered that Japan didn't overate Kimi no na wa i can say for sure that Japan have a superior taste in anime and the fact that Japan like echi and anime with the harem tag which isn't the case on mal where most of the users have a gay taste make me 100% sure that Japan have a better taste in anime Japan taste in anime is still trash tho |
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InsaneLeader13 said: Likewise, Madoka Magica: Rebellion sits at 8.49 on MAL, but sits at a disappointing satisfactory 79.4 on Anikore! This is everything you need to know. Godlike taste, Japan!!! |
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Zapredon said: i can't see the rest of the list ,I have to sign up ,but I don't understand japanese .Here is the ranking. https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/ Steins Gate,2 Code Geass, Monogatari, GiTS: SAC, Clannad After Story,TTGL,Chihayafuru are in the first page. Cool with me. Yes, we do share similar titles in the top slots. Hmm..maybe having a universal criteria/standard might be possible. do you know what are they asking for |
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kikyo1hinamora said: Zapredon said: i can't see the rest of the list ,I have to sign up ,but I don't understand japanese .Here is the ranking. https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/ Steins Gate,2 Code Geass, Monogatari, GiTS: SAC, Clannad After Story,TTGL,Chihayafuru are in the first page. Cool with me. Yes, we do share similar titles in the top slots. Hmm..maybe having a universal criteria/standard might be possible. do you know what are they asking for I can't see the rest too. I only check the top page. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
kikyo1hinamora said: Zapredon said: i can't see the rest of the list ,I have to sign up ,but I don't understand japanese .Here is the ranking. https://www.anikore.jp/pop_ranking/ Steins Gate,2 Code Geass, Monogatari, GiTS: SAC, Clannad After Story,TTGL,Chihayafuru are in the first page. Cool with me. Yes, we do share similar titles in the top slots. Hmm..maybe having a universal criteria/standard might be possible. do you know what are they asking for E-mail and password (at least 4 chars). |
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| Could you imagine if we didn't have all the people who make downvoter alts just to vote down shows? Would Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan also be on our front page? |
Paul said: if you meet one of these people please report to this page Could you imagine if we didn't have all the people who make downvoter alts just to vote down shows? Would Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan also be on our front page? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618 Aquamirror said: wow just 4 chars for passwordkikyo1hinamora said: i can't see the rest of the list ,I have to sign up ,but I don't understand japanese . do you know what are they asking for E-mail and password (at least 4 chars). those were the days.. my first yahoo mail had 4 char pass but this makes more sense in japanese cause it's way harder to bruteforce a password with kanji |
romagiaAug 13, 2017 10:32 AM
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romagia said: Paul said: if you meet one of these people please report to this page Could you imagine if we didn't have all the people who make downvoter alts just to vote down shows? Would Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan also be on our front page? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618 Fully aware of the topic, but I don't care enough til we have some more concrete system to care about tracking down accounts that do. Which is unlikely to happen any soon. |
| The sole presence of SAO in the top ranking makes it impossible for me to take this list seriously. And even though I don't consider it a masterpiece whatsoever, it's much more preferable something like Kimi no na Wa in the number one spot than the extremely overrated and troubling Steins; Gate. However it is also nice to see present in the top 30 NGE. |
| lol oreimo is ranked 63 with a score of 88/100 and the second season is ranked 91 and rates 86,9 Sao 2 is ranaked 72 with a Scot of 87,6 same for death note elfen lied and mirai nikki are rated 87,3 and are both in the 81 place haganai next is ranked 88 and rates 87 haganai is ranked 99 and rates 86,6 air is rated 86,4 and ranked 102 high school of the dead is ranked 125 and it is rated 84,7 kanon 163 and rated 82 Japan really have a better taste lol school days is ranked 202 and is rated 79,6 lol |
AkerakaaaaiAug 13, 2017 10:49 AM
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| I think the biggest difference is that a lot of the shows that get hate bashed to death in the west just because of being popular don't seem to receive quite the same abuse in Japan. So in that sense I think their ranking is more fair. On the other hand the sample size of voters on Anikore is a lot smaller |
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| I don't see Sekko Boys in the top 10. Ergo, both sides of the Pacific has shit taste and cannot comprehend a work of genius if they see one. |
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| Anohana ranked 8 with 91.3. Shit taste confirmed. |
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| i was about to think that Japan have a decent taste in anime but sadly there are hundred of underated anime in the japanese top anime list and Japan have a very shit taste in shonen anime so Japan anime taste is trash just like the west anime taste |
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| Ok I guess? Like, who cares if their ratings are different than the ones on MAL, My ratings aren't the same as the MAL scores either, so I don't really see a point here. |
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| If Anikore and MAL are accurate represntations of Anime reception in Japan and the West respecitvely, what does this mean? In the first place, that you're assuming too much. |
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Lordwen said: If Anikore and MAL are accurate represntations of Anime reception in Japan and the West respecitvely, what does this mean? In the first place, that you're assuming too much. *Claps* You! I like you for being able to make this simple observation! Nice to know someone was able to see through this shitpost attempt! |
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| MAL isn't an accurate representation of the Western fanbase because there's a massive mecha fanbase that mostly isn't present on MAL. There may be other genre fanbases underrepresented here as well. As such I don't care to comment. |
TripleSRank said: MAL isn't an accurate representation of the Western fanbase because there's a massive mecha fanbase that mostly isn't present on MAL. There may be other genre fanbases underrepresented here as well. It's the most accurate online representation we can get, though. So for the sake of comparison I guess it serves. Anyway on that site... Azumanga Daioh 70.8% Princess Tutu 73.5% Kino no tabi 73% Yeah I stay with MAL |
| Both sites seem to represent the taste of people who are new to anime. I imagine the more invested Japanese fans look at those rankings and go "lol nope." It's kinda like how western anime fans bash SAO all the time, yet whenever I talk to people irl, they're singing that show's praises. At the same time they usually can only name 10-20 anime and don't have much to compare SAO to. I remember bringing up BnHA, a fairly popular show, at school and everyone just went "never heard of it." |
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| Steins;Gate and an entry of the Monogatari Series are in the top 5 so they have good taste XD |
HyperLAug 13, 2017 6:47 PM
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| not that much different i would said... |
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| AniKore seems to suffer a more acute disease of rabid fans giving 10/10. SAO 1,2 and Oreimo on top 100. Now, let me check something... Eromanga Sensei 72.4/100 vs Owarimonogatari 2 60.4/100 Nah, I will stick with MAL rating, thank you very much. |
| Mfw someone takes the rating shitpost thread to a new level of shitpost. InsaneLeader13 said: Lordwen said: If Anikore and MAL are accurate represntations of Anime reception in Japan and the West respecitvely, what does this mean? In the first place, that you're assuming too much. *Claps* You! I like you for being able to make this simple observation! Nice to know someone was able to see through this shitpost attempt! Ohhh... OP admitted it himself... :/ |
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3v4n said: kikyo1hinamora said: always though that the west taste in anime was better ,but after seeing that that trashy comedy anime called gintama isn't as much overated as it is on mal and after looking at the great score that Japan gave to sao and toradora and after I discovered that Japan didn't overate Kimi no na wa i can say for sure that Japan have a superior taste in anime and the fact that Japan like echi and anime with the harem tag which isn't the case on mal where most of the users have a gay taste make me 100% sure that Japan have a better taste in anime Japan taste in anime is still trash tho Lmao, First, you said Japan has a superior taste in anime. But, in the end, you said Japan taste in anime is still trash. What kind of logic do you have? Anyway, just FYI, Gintama has so much love in Japan. It is ranked as the most beloved Manga 3 years straight in a poll created by a Japanese Corporation, Charapedia http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/07/09-1/japanese-fans-pick-favorite-manga-author-in-10000-read-poll what kind of logic do you have ? if Japan taste in anime is better than the western taste in anime that doesen't mean that Japan have a good taste in anime . you must be very stupid and that explains why you like gintama |
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| i would like not to say anything lol....prefer to keep the opinion myself... |
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| Looks like Japan do not have a bias on popular anime Looks like Japan do not underrate moe/fanservice otaku-ish anime Looks like Japan do not overrate hollywood-ish anime But Japan do not like comedy as we do And ..... Anikore looks similar to my list than MAL does!! |
_LapisLazuliAug 14, 2017 4:32 AM
| Both are shit, but at least Anikore's list is more diverse. |
ARubinsky said: AniKore seems to suffer a more acute disease of rabid fans giving 10/10. SAO 1,2 and Oreimo on top 100. Now, let me check something... Eromanga Sensei 72.4/100 vs Owarimonogatari 2 60.4/100 Nah, I will stick with MAL rating, thank you very much. Isn't it good that AniKore doesn't suffer from second season rating inflation? Owarimonogatari 2 must not live up to its previous seasons. Also, Eromanga-sensei has about the same rating on MAL, 7.05. InsaneLeader13 said: In conjunction with Slice of Life, Anikore users appear to be friendlier to Popular Shounen titles. I'll point to the aforementioned FMA:B, but add along with it To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (MAL: 7.84, Anikore: 90.4), and Attack on Titan (MAL: 8.52, Anikore: 90.7) are the most blatant examples. But, and this will ruffle alot of peoples feathers, Anikore scores the infamous Sword Art Online (MAL: 7.73) with a whopping 90.7!!!! It's nice they don't have as much blind haters. |
| Most people here are probably relatively mild in their anime obsession, plus there seems to be a large age gap on the website (i know the biggest part here is young but still). Isn't this japanese website a festival of anime-obsessed old teenagers/young adults from Japan? What I mean is that the sampled population is probably not even the same. And even more than MAL not representing the "West", it certainly doesn't reflect the popularity in Japan. I'm sure more people know children shows (ranging from the neveraging kids series started long ago to something like the Gundam first movies) than what is listed above. edit: add to that Mazinger Z, early Yamato series/movies, Cardcaptor, Dr.SLUMP (probably the most popular JUMP adaptation of all times) and a lot of other titles totally ignored here and on this website. edit: and what's the rank of things like... Evangelion TV just to laugh ? XD |
Rei_IIIAug 14, 2017 6:02 AM
| Hanasaku love <3 Intersting data, I'd like to see a correlating statistic for gender and age too for both sites just as more filler information. I know such data is available for MAL but not too sure about the other one. |
| Noragami: Overall score 79.0 points / Ranked 227 place Noragami Aragoto : Overall score 68.5 points / Ranked 828 place shit taste confirmed. |
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jal90 said: TripleSRank said: MAL isn't an accurate representation of the Western fanbase because there's a massive mecha fanbase that mostly isn't present on MAL. There may be other genre fanbases underrepresented here as well. It's the most accurate online representation we can get, though. So for the sake of comparison I guess it serves. Anyway on that site... Azumanga Daioh 70.8% Princess Tutu 73.5% Kino no tabi 73% Yeah I stay with MAL ...What the FUCK is wrong with Japan?! |
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| That moment when I check the list and find that most of the top ten are moeshit animes , I cringe .. japan is known for it's shit taste so don't be surprised if the new animes are grabage moeshit MAL ratings are fine in comparison with anikore ones .. |
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flannan said: Isn't it good that AniKore doesn't suffer from second season rating inflation? Owarimonogatari 2 must not live up to its previous seasons. Also, Eromanga-sensei has about the same rating on MAL, 7.05. It looks more like a bipolar disorder than being critical of an anime work. SAO 2 is very bad, yet is on TOP 100. SAO 1 I might give a pass with the huge fanbase of this work. Now, check all the currently season scores. They are all low on AniKore to the point of Kakegurui, Hajimete no Gal, Owarimonogatari and Made in Abyss,etc etc are all below Eromanga Sensei from last season. This is clearly Oreimo fanboys pushing the score higher. Can we say Eromanga Sensei was the best anime of the past season? |
AdrianRubinskyAug 14, 2017 9:53 AM
| Steins;Gate being at the top is great but the presence of both Code Geass seasons in the top 5 confirms garbage taste. |
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Paul said: romagia said: if you meet one of these people please report to this page https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618 Fully aware of the topic, but I don't care enough til we have some more concrete system to care about tracking down accounts that do. Which is unlikely to happen any soon. I can understand that feeling as well.Look at poor Owarimonogatari 2nd Season quickly get all the 1s because it glitch to 3rd place back then |
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| Doesn't Anicore give a lot of importance to the popularity of the series for its rating? Maybe I'm confused with another page. Anyways, seeing Kimi no Na wa under the 80 points satisfies me enough to compensate any bullshit they might have on a higher spot, FeelsGoodMan. |
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