| Could you watch an anime with a "serious" plot and charachters if they looked like the standard "moe" characters or a simplified artstyle? I've seen people say they can't take a show that tries to be serious seriously unless it has somewhat equal proportions (eyes,body,legs etc) |
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| There's nothing wrong with a fappable kawaii waifu in a 2deep5me series to be honest. |
| Not really, if the story is good then I can close my eyes to the character design and the art style. For instance I find One Piece's art to be absolutely ridiculous, but I do intend to give it a try. |
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| It could but better not, unless it is something more experimental like Kaiba. |
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| Zombie-Loan had that problem in that the characters were like stretched too skinny and tall If the plot is good enough I'll watch it... but it could take longer than other series |
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| Higurashi's art isn't exactly stellar, but the juxtaposition between the expected events (expected based on the art style, character choice and the slice-of-life moments that punctuate the start of each arc) does wonders for delivering the curve ball when it suddenly goes tits-up. It certainly has that moe-harem esque style with the huge eyes, hair of each colour and mostly female cast with a single male MC but I never felt like it detracted from the experience. I suppose it certainly could have been better, but I think it shows that my impression of a story is based on the contents of the story moreso than the art; whilst the art most definitely is important, unless it's completely ridiculous or ugly (looking at you, Clannad) then it won't do too much to hinder my immersion, especially with where more serious plots are concerned. A generic style - which certainly is what Higurashi is - won't prevent me from enjoying it. |
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| Most definitely: especially if its the series' primary objective. |
| It can affect it, but I tend to prioritize the plot over the art style. |
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martiooo said: I'm still turned off by the alien-eyed girls in Clannad to pick it up, so yes. *Tips fedora* Well I watched both seasons of Kingdom and still enyojed if that counts. |
| Well, in some way, yes. Something really cute and fun and colorful can't be super serious. Same as really dark and griddy colours can't be cute. |
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| Depends on how bad the art style is... |
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| It depends how the plot is supposed to be serious. Obviously High School Fleet doesn't feel too serious because high school girls controlling war ships isn't realistic in any way. Chihayafuru, Usagi Drop, Wandering Son, Romeo no Aoi Sora (and likely World Masterpiece Theater in general), and and Full Moon wo Sagashite all have cute looking characters and this doesn't take anything away from their stories. |
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| Yes It's what's called 'framing', and every story comes to you framed. Art style is one way to frame the story, but you can have a serious story with moe characters. Soundtrack, pacing, dialogue are all extra methods to help build the right frame. |
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| It's not all about the art style... no matter how... wicked... it stays.. for the perfection.. through the plot |
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| I still think the dark themed colors of old HxH animation fits the plot better compared to the new adaption with its vivid and bright colors, so yes. |
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GamerUnglued said: Absolutey agreed. I generally think every artstyle has a point, even if it doesn't fit the rest of the work's tone at first sight. It's about how art is used, not what it looks like. The only exception to that is Osamu Tezuka. As much as I respect the deep themes and characterizations of Buddha, the dissonance with the artstyle was just too much. |
| I don't mind mostly having a serious story with moe characters but sometimes it puts me off but not as much as the common anime tropes/clichés/stereotypes do... So it's not about the art style as much as it's focused on how it is delivered. The anime could have a supernatural or a sci-fi setting but tackles with interesting subjects and treats those themes seriously, in that case i wouldn't mind huge eyes, crazy and colorful hairstyles etc. Plus there are even anime/short movies with completely wacky or surreal artstyles and still treat fundamental/psychological/philosophical concepts seriously... |
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| I find Kaiba fantastic on the contrast between the artstyle and plot. I always thought that a show with a cyberpunk setting could only work with a gritty atmosphere and a realistic artstyle, then Yuasa made Kaiba. |
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| Yes.. the kid art style of Barefoot Gen and Ima Soko ni Iru Boku makes them better. |
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| Not very much, I could took Katanagatari and Madoka seriously despite their particular artstyle because I feel they were fitting with their respective series. I even would say Katanagatari's art style was one of the things I liked the most about the series. However, the only case I can think of an anime whose artstyle I "couldn't took seriously" was Orange, and not only for the QUALITY moments, but because the style of the series was very inconsistent, like if they tried to come with a mixture of a more realistic style with a more moe design, ending making the characters looking like reptiles. The dudes were more salvable, but Naho and the blonde girl looked pretty ridiculous at times. |
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| In certain cases like with Higurashi and Clannad. |
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| Nah, I'm very rarely bothered by artstyle - and I do love moe! Bright colors and dark, edgy theme can create some decent stuff together imo. |
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| Definitely yes. I wouldn't have loved kimiuso as much as I did because of the artstyle and animation. The animation in this anime is the best I've seen so far and that makes a series way more enjoyable, at least for me. |
mochakawaiibear said: Could you watch an anime with a "serious" plot and characters if they looked like the standard "moe" characters or a simplified artstyle? Sure, why not? Do you think shows like High School Fleet or Regalia are any less dramatic because they have a cast full of cute girls? What about Kotoura-san and Maryuuin Koga Saigo no Tatakai, where physical survival is not usually at stake, and thus immortality doesn't guarantee a good ending? Do you think that Gakkougurashi girls' issues are any less serious just because they're moe girls? Maybe this artstyle makes me even more involved than more "realistic" style. mochakawaiibear said: I've seen people say they can't take a show that tries to be serious seriously unless it has somewhat equal proportions (eyes,body,legs etc) I've seen snobs "unable to take a show seriously" for any reason. Like the fact Occultic;Nine's Ryou-tas's breasts bounce occasionally. Or that Coppelion's ruins of Tokyo are explored by schoolgirls. I'd say these people are too stuck-up, and should not be watching anime in the first place. |
| well it does to some extend tell me how serious the story really is.... |
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| Ehh not really. Whenever I see people call stuff like Clannad or Madoka "childish" because of them having cute girls in them I just roll my eyes, like come on now lol Though I will admit that sometimes some rather extreme character designs can give you an awkward feeling when watching a show. Like that hideous boob monster in Occultic;Nine, just... why? Was there any reason half her body size consisted of her tits ?__? That made it a bit hard to take certain scenes seriously when she was on screen :s |
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HaXXspetten said: Though I will admit that sometimes some rather extreme character designs can give you an awkward feeling when watching a show. Like that hideous boob monster in Occultic;Nine, just... why? Was there any reason half her body size consisted of her tits ?__? That made it a bit hard to take certain scenes seriously when she was on screen :s After a few episodes, I noticed that the scenes stopped being serious a few seconds before Ryou-tas started jumping around, and her breasts started bouncing around. Not every wordy wall of text is serious. Especially when that MC is saying it. |
| I don't take anime seriously unless there's absolutely no humor, but yea, I for the most part don't expect moe lol Not that I of all ppl would complain |
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| I took Clannad and Clannad After Story seriously despite how the characters looked. |
| I think that you can tell a serious story with moe art no problem. Ex: Clannad, School-Live! |
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EcchiLordMamster said: I don't take anime seriously unless there's absolutely no humor, but yea, I for the most part don't expect moe lol Not that I of all ppl would complain Why? Real life has plenty of humor, including in serious situations. |
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| Imagine Re:Zero with Nichijou art style. Imagine Gintama with Makoto Shinkai's movies art style. |
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| For me, the art style and colors set the tone of the story. A dark story with a bright and cute art style can ruin how the story is intended to feel and makes it harder to take seriously. |
| I don't see why light colors or cute art could keep a story from being serious... It can't be edgy though, if that what you mean by 'serious'. |
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| Hmmm... maybe? I believe if it's good enough it won't matter at all but now I'm curious like what if Berserk had Lucky Star art style (and the reverse as well). |
TheBrainintheJar said: EcchiLordMamster said: I don't take anime seriously unless there's absolutely no humor, but yea, I for the most part don't expect moe lol Not that I of all ppl would complain Why? Real life has plenty of humor, including in serious situations. I might need an example if this, cause idgaf how much blood, gore and violence are in an anime, if they're constantly cracking jokes or the art is trying to be light hearted I won't take it seriously Madoka Magica I could because it was creepy af at times and humorless @HaXXspetten Yall who can't take a show seriously cause huge boobs need to realize the issue is on you, deal w it or don't watch anime Wtf do you mean WHY? Yall act as though women w boobs that big DON'T exist or that they can only be found at the beach To say "this type of anime shouldn't have huge boobs" is treating huge boobs as if they are an anime only thing and dont occur naturally |
EcchiGodMamsterMar 8, 2017 8:45 AM
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| Yes, mainly on a first impression/episode basis as I believe it contributes to the tone of the show. It's up to the series to then either go in the direction that most people expect or go for something completely different through use of contents. |
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| It affects me so much, I think that visuals are pretty important if you want to reach your spectators interests. |
EcchiLordMamster said: Anime isn't real life. These are characters which are all intentionally created in a certain way to fit a specific role. Thus giving them traits that only make the characters more useless than they would've been without them is pretty counterproductive. Occultic;Nine was entirely a paranormal sci-fi mystery show from start to finish and wholly story-centric, so having the camera always target-locked on this one girl's bouncing G-cups whenever she was on screen whilst simultaneously having a rapidfire dialogue about some really damn complex sci-fi matters (the whole anime was confusing as hell) isn't exactly great idea. It was hard enough to follow along with the story even if you focused super hard on it the way it wasI might need an example if this, cause idgaf how much blood, gore and violence are in an anime, if they're constantly cracking jokes or the art is trying to be light hearted I won't take it seriously Madoka Magica I could because it was creepy af at times and humorless @HaXXspetten Yall who can't take a show seriously cause huge boobs need to realize the issue is on you, deal w it or don't watch anime Wtf do you mean WHY? Yall act as though women w boobs that big DON'T exist or that they can only be found at the beach To say "this type of anime shouldn't have huge boobs" is treating huge boobs as if they are an anime only thing and dont occur naturally And yes I've learned by now that you don't seem to understand the idea of atmosphere in anime at all, but in this case it's honestly more of a matter that the girl literally made the anime even harder to understand because of how distracting she was. And again, you can't use real life as a comparison here because anime characters all look the way they do for a reason. An artist doesn't just roll a dice for deciding how to create everyone |
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| There is still some basis on the way real people are, there's fat people, there's darker skinned people, tall and short people etc, why would big boobs be excluded? Because whiny ppl exist? "This bothers ME, and look, this guy complained too, therefore it shouldn't be there" Foh... |
EcchiGodMamsterMar 8, 2017 9:40 AM
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| Madoka Magica has 'moe' written all over it, and it's my favorite series. Code Geass was also my favorite series for a time (still among my top), and I never hear a shortage of complaints about the character designs. Yes, I know CLAMP can't design characters worth sh*t, but that's what their visual appeal is. Kind of like Nirvana's appeal is the sincerity despite the lack of vocal talent. |
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EcchiLordMamster said: I might need an example if this, cause idgaf how much blood, gore and violence are in an anime, if they're constantly cracking jokes or the art is trying to be light hearted I won't take it seriously Madoka Magica I could because it was creepy af at times and humorless @HaXXspetten Yall who can't take a show seriously cause huge boobs need to realize the issue is on you, deal w it or don't watch anime Wtf do you mean WHY? Yall act as though women w boobs that big DON'T exist or that they can only be found at the beach To say "this type of anime shouldn't have huge boobs" is treating huge boobs as if they are an anime only thing and dont occur naturally What does gore and violence have to do with maturity? |
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| Bad animation? Bad designs? Bad colors? All these things does not affect the quality content whatsoever. Most people prefer good animation just because they feel comfortable watching it. Decent anime with low quality animation like Tatami Galaxy, Ping Pong, Monster, Mononoke and Kaiba has great content. Why does these great anime being adapted at poor animation quality? It is simply followed their own original style. Ugly it may be, but such things is an art for itself. |
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| As long as the plot and writing is tight then I don't think the art style affects how serious I find a show. For example: I like the darker themes running underneath Madoka, but on the surface the characters are ultra kawaii magical girls. Obviously there's a balance in that the witches mazes' are more abstract, but off of the characters alone I feel the show conveys it's serious tone even with ultra cute designs. |
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