| I, for one, can't enjoy Shinichiro Watanabe's works. I just recently dropped his most famous work, Cowboy Bebop for being overall meaningless. I also dropped Samurai Champloo for the same reason. I think Zankyou no Terror is just pure screenplay and direction genius but is lacking in story. The best work Watanabe has, for me is Kids on the Slope where it has a focused narrative(unlike his other works) and a great story. It doesn't help that I don't really like westernized anime that much. Only thing that I really enjoyed constantly in his works is music. That's all. So, to reiterate my question in the title, have you ever had a director(or writer) whose work you can't really enjoy that much? |
| Just as you I really can't get into Cowboy Bebop, I just don't get why it is so hyped. I thought Samurai Champloo was really good though. Not really a director but I'd say Ghibli's works, it's just a japanese version of Disney... And I can't stand Disney. However Mononoke Hime is good, not really my cup of tea though. |
| I'm not sure if there is, most directors have ups and downs.. |
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| Jun Maeda. Of his works I've seen, they were rushed (in the cases of Angel Beats! and Charlotte), boring (in the case of Clannad) whilst all lacked any actual reasons to care about what happened to the characters. Despite the fact that they were supposed to be dramatic and 'feelsy' they never gave me a reason to actually have any such feelings. I'm told that Clannad AS is where the feels kicks in, but the first season was so insufferable that I don't really want to continue. Charlotte was nothing short of a trainwreck, and Angel Beats!' only redeeming quality was its humour. As it stands, his works don't have a good record with me. |
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-Maz said: Jun Maeda. Of his works I've seen, they were rushed (in the cases of Angel Beats! and Charlotte), boring (in the case of Clannad) whilst all lacked any actual reasons to care about what happened to the characters. Despite the fact that they were supposed to be dramatic and 'feelsy' they never gave me a reason to actually have any such feelings. I'm told that Clannad AS is where the feels kicks in, but the first season was so insufferable that I don't really want to continue. Charlotte was nothing short of a trainwreck, and Angel Beats!' only redeeming quality was its humour. As it stands, his works don't have a good record with me. +1 Tbf I've only completed Clannad and Angel Beats. I dropped Air and Charlotte on the first episode back when I was a newfag. Idk why but neither of them caught on with me. I did enjoy Angel Beats, mainly due to the humor and the occasional feels but it all went downhill from episode 9 or so. As for Clannad, it was literally like watching a walk-through of a VN. As in if was like watching a VN play itself. Boring af.. |
| Gen Urobuchi, he's not a bad writer per se, but I just don't find his works as great as they are usually claimed to be, because his stories feel like they try too hard to be deep in my opinion, I've watched all of Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica, half of Psycho Pass, read Saya no Uta and I only really enjoyed F/Z out of these 4. -Maz said: Jun Maeda. Of his works I've seen, they were rushed (in the cases of Angel Beats! and Charlotte), boring (in the case of Clannad) whilst all lacked any actual reasons to care about what happened to the characters. Despite the fact that they were supposed to be dramatic and 'feelsy' they never gave me a reason to actually have any such feelings. I'm told that Clannad AS is where the feels kicks in, but the first season was so insufferable that I don't really want to continue. Charlotte was nothing short of a trainwreck, and Angel Beats!' only redeeming quality was its humour. As it stands, his works don't have a good record with me. I've heard his writing in Key visual novels is usually pretty good, perhaps his style just doesn't translate well to anime I'm guessing. |
Although it's good to focus on enjoyment and not disregard your enjoyment because of one thing you found bad, ignoring all of the criticism you know is true on the inside is rather dismissive. |
| Hmm no I don't think so. Or at least I can't say I can think of anyone who hasn't done at least one good show |
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| Reki Kawahara. Self-explanatory. |
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Self explanatory? Still, kindly explain. xD (I liked ACcel World and did not really hate/love SAO that much)... |
CapitalistGod said: Self explanatory? Still, kindly explain. xD (I liked ACcel World and did not really hate/love SAO that much)... Because SAO and Accel World. That is my explanation. |
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MagicalMahou said: CapitalistGod said: Self explanatory? Still, kindly explain. xD (I liked ACcel World and did not really hate/love SAO that much)... Because SAO and Accel World. That is my explanation. That's not really an explanation. (I'll just assume it's just bandwagoning then.) |
| @CapitalistGod I think you should watch Space Dandy (from Shinichiro Watanabe). It's a funny, enjoyable anime with episodic plots and a trippy atmosphere. You wouldn't regret watching it. About the matter, I think I don't have a writer/director I really dislike. When I watch something I center in the product, not in the people who direct it (unless some exceptions). |
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Illyricus said: @CapitalistGod I think you should watch Space Dandy (from Shinichiro Watanabe). It's a funny, enjoyable anime with episodic plots and a trippy atmosphere. You wouldn't regret watching it. About the matter, I think I don't have a writer/director I really dislike. When I watch something I center in the product, not in the people who direct it (unless some exceptions). Well, I'll try it some time. Watanabe i 1 out of 4 so far for me( I gave ZnT a 7 for the direction and screenplay but it still wasn't a hit for me).. |
| Gen Urobuchi. I've honestly wanted to like at least one of his works, but every single time he has let me down. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| Nope, never! I actually rarely ever look up the director for any of the shows I like in the first place. |
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Caelidesu said: Gen Urobuchi. I've honestly wanted to like at least one of his works, but every single time he has let me down. Whoah seriously! Even Psycho Pass? |
TitanAnteus said: Caelidesu said: Gen Urobuchi. I've honestly wanted to like at least one of his works, but every single time he has let me down. Whoah seriously! Even Psycho Pass? Especially Psycho Pass. The worst thing about Psycho Pass was the writing, and Gen Urobuchi is solely to blame for that. I really wanted to like that series, but it's so full of plot holes that it disgusts me. |
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Caelidesu said: Especially Psycho Pass. The worst thing about Psycho Pass was the writing, and Gen Urobuchi is solely to blame for that. I really wanted to like that series, but it's so full of plot holes that it disgusts me. Lol plot holes XD. Minority report and Equilibrium have plot holes. Almost everything has plot holes. If you're scrutinizing the show to the point where they're getting in the way of your enjoyment of the show... I don't know man. It feels like you don't actually want to like it. Gen Urobuchi is solely to blame for the existence of Psycho Pass. |
Antinomy said: Akiyuki Shinbo. I've dropped Sayounara Zetsubou-Sensei, Mekakucity Actors and Maria Holic. I don't think I want to see anything else he's directed. I just don't like his style. Is it for his visuals? or what? Just asking. |
TitanAnteus said: Caelidesu said: It feels like you don't actually want to like it.I really wanted to like that series ... Do you seriously think the words I'm typing aren't truthful? I was genuinely excited to try watching Psycho Pass until I actually saw it. |
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Antinomy said: ^ same as well, bakemonogatari, arakawa under the bridge, cossette no shouzou, dance in the vampire bund, denpa onna to seishun no otoko, koufuku grafitti, mahou shoujo madoka magica, maria + holic, nisekoi, mekakucity actors, and sasami san ganbaranai, I think I've seen enough from him. It's the same thing every time, imo very pretentious directing work. Couldn't immerse myself in his works because of how often he had to show off his cutting technique, panning skill, etc.Akiyuki Shinbo. I've dropped Sayounara Zetsubou-Sensei, Mekakucity Actors and Maria Holic. I don't think I want to see anything else he's directed. I just don't like his style. The only one work I enjoyed was Negima, and that's because I like the manga. |
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| shinbo i guess, i can't really stand his animation style. |
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| Probably Jun Maeda. Really didn't care for Angel Beats, absolutely hate Clannad, and Afterstory was a decent show ruined by the rough start, awful ending, and having to watch the original series first. |
| Junji Ito This guy is by no means crap imo but....Uzumaki killed me after a few chapters and I decided I will NEVER read his mangas EVER again....or any anime that may come in the future.....I gotta get Gyo off my list lol |
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| The director of cowboy shitooo , i couldn't stand his work not to mention his latest work " the one with two kids who wants to destory the whole world because ... you know fuck it " "sniper in helicopter be like * i will just shoot the next guy , leaving the one with the bomb because .... you know fuck it *" And the one who said " anime was a mistake " Im not good with names , but yeah im sure this two are famous for their work ( can't help it ) |
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| I never could enjoy the works of Satoshi Kon. I know he's very talented, and I can tell there's a LOT of work, effort and passion put into his works, but I could never get into his idea about duality of live, separating real life from characters/dreams and things like that. It's a rare case where I am not interested in something that doesn't really have any flaws. |
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| The only time I even look up a director is if I hated something so much I want to see what other piece of shit they created Lol |
| Everything the creator of Tatami Galaxy has ever touched. |
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| Gen Urobuchi. It's all well and good until "somebody" loses an eye... |
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| By "overall meaningless" you mean that there is no overall plot, right? Episodic shows aren't up your alley it seems. OT: Gen Urobuchi. He relies too much on shock factor and does not give his characters enough attention. He seems to always have the misconception that dark = deep and mature. Yeah, some "deconstruction" Madoka turned out to be. |
| Jun Maeda tries hard to make me cry and that annoys me. And Gen Urobuchi. Everything he does has to be 2deep4me. |
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| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
| Jun Maeda stuff and most LN writers. Coz I kinda hate School genre and high school protagonists |
JomsMay 11, 2016 7:06 PM
| i don't really avoid any director or writer... but original source writer (especialy manga), i have plenty... |
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AltoRoark said: By "overall meaningless" you mean that there is no overall plot, right? Episodic shows aren't up your alley it seems. I'm quite okay with episodic shows as long as it has some semblance of a central narrative(in each episode or in the whole show) which Bebop clearly lacks. Uhh... About the ending, it's just you haven't paying attention to details, clearly. ALl the clues that explains what happened in that particular ending is spread throughout the show. You can't accuse something of Deus Ex MAchina when you haven't been paying attention to the details... See, even this guy who haven't read the LNs understands why the ending is so... by paying attention to detail |
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| @Dab1za9 The fact that he foreshadowed it makes any criticism about it being an asspull or Deus Ex Machina invalid. Disliking the ending is okay and all but yeah. |
| Two; Makoto Shinkai and Hayao Miyazaki. For all the praise they receive, what I've seen of their work is majorly disappointing, especially Shinkai. |
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| Jun Medea mostly because I feel that his work requires at least 2 cours to get interesting/proper pacing. His last 2 projects that I've watched, Angel Beats and Charlotte, are completely rushed with horrible plot holes, too many characters, little to no fleshing out characters and overall are just disappointing. So now every time I see an upcoming project from him I'll be looking at the episode count instead of the synopsis. |
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