Yuuichirou has reunited with Mikaela at the Shinjuku Battle. But Mikaela was turned into a vampire... To save the "family," and to protect his fellow members, Yuuichirou needed to gain knowledge and power. He searched for ways to bring back vampire to human beings, and at the same time, trained hard working on the Cursed Gear.
Meanwhile, Kureto calls Guren and tells him a shocking truth. That in one month, the main unit of the vampire will start attacking Tokyo. To get a head start against vampires, Kureto orders Guren to go to Nagoya. The noble extermination mission is about to open fire!
The characters are shallow but the story is interesting.
Do not watch this anime if you don't like waiting for answers to plot points. Do not watch this if you only plan to watch a few at a time.
This anime requires a binge session to finish it as it can get tedious, but it is (kinda) worth it.
I have now finished this anime and as such my review has changed, slightly.
I will leave my old review up as I still agree with it as i wrote it, 9 episodes in. Go to the bottom for full season review.
Up to episode 9:
[Such a waste of an intriguing plot idea and character (Mika)
The first season was not the best, I will admit. Yet I felt that the story had promise and Mika was way underdeveloped.
The second season is everything that is wrong with the first on steroids, all beefed up and loud. One dimensional characters that are just the tropes of typical animes. No character development or really plot progression.
All that happens could be summed up in a fraction of the time if there were not purely random and unexplained scenes mixed with boring drawn out flashbacks. The only thing that kept me watching was the story, and I found out that it is really not all that complex after reading a summery.
The characters are stuck in a time paradox. One where any actual character development is stuck and all that they can do is spout the same exact lines over and over.
Art and sound are good. Yet, as hard as you try to dress up a pile of trash to make it look fabulous, it's still garbage.
Only watch if you need anything to watch and have no better options to binge.
If the story is grabbing you then look it up online]
On a whim I decided to finish this anime late one night, and I am glad I did. Kinda. It is still not the best anime by any shot but I can kinda see it going somewhere next season, so I hold out hope there.
The main issue with it is that it is trying to be the next big hit anime *cough (Attack On Titan) cough*, but FAILS hard. It has a great story, I knew this from the start; this was why I even continued to watch it and why I finished it. Too bad the characters and writers let the story down.
There are simply too many mysteries in the story and more keep coming the longer you watch. With no answers to solve the past questions you just end up lost in what is going on always. Characters motivations are there, but we have not got any idea what they are.
This is the shows biggest failing, the writers are writing in too many character traits without fleshing out the others added before. This leaves you with a confusing mess of a "family" of characters whose motivations are one dimensional and come off as just lame.
Read the manga if you have the itch for answers that I have after finishing. Maybe it is the better read, or at least it is more complete at this point.read more
The 'Seraph of the End' franchise was intentionally crafted for the purpose of being the 'new Attack on Titan' in terms of popularity and merchandising. Even thought such attempt was not all that unsuccessful - it became some sort of teen Hit in Japan and also has quite a fanbase worldwide - OwaSera is the living proof that you need much more than just successful anime tropes and clichés mashed together in order to make things actually work.
Story - 5/10
As pointed out in my review of the previous season - an opinion shared by a large portion of people, fans included - Owari no Seraph is a mess that tries to bring up successful formulas and narrative devices all at once, in a desperate attempt to pander to multiple demographics.
You have a VIRUS that ERRADICATES humanity, and VAMPIRES engage in a WAR against humans. You have these GIANT MONSTERS scattered everywhere in this POST-APOCALYPTIC landscape. The only way to fight the vampires is through DEMON-powered SUPER WEAPONS. There are messages about the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP and how HUMANITY IS THE ACTUAL VILLAIN. Halfway through the story EVIL ANGELS are introduced to antagonize humans and vampires alike.
Seriously, doesn't the plot of Owari no Seraph look like some "crossover AU" fan-fiction freshly submitted to 'Archive of Our Own'? Deadly viruses, demons, vampires... Cool! But do these elements work together in a coherent, cohesive way? I don't think so. After two seasons and 24 episodes, you might not even know WHAT is happening. Shounen tropes and character archetypes played in an edgy, grimdark Seinen setting, with Shoujo (and even Josei) elements thrown in the mix. You know, deep down, the results are going to be subpar.
The second season of the show focuses in a war engaged by vampires and humans in Nagoya - thus the subtitle - new characters were introduced and the plot moved to a darker turn. However, as just mentioned, the storytelling is so messy and convoluted that you might not even understand why or how things are happening in the way they are. The season finale is probably one of the biggest Ass Pulls in the history of japanese animation. Nothing will make sense anymore by then - and I'm not talking about 'gainax Endings' such as that of Evangelion - the producers and creators of Owari no Seraph just decided to shrug and give us the most messy clusterfucking, cringeworthy, convoluted trainwreck they could imagine. Pardon the language, but no polite or erudite vocabulary could express my feelings towards that.
Some things that I feel the need to address, considering that there are plot holes aplenty:
1 - The giant monsters, oddly named 'Horsemen of John' - what's their purpose? Where do they come from? Where are they now? What do they have to do with vampires? The manga explains it in a very brief, unconvincing way, but the anime forgets to do so.
2 - Who created the virus and for what purpose? Was it vampires? Humans?
3 - For how long have the vampires lived in the underground? Where do they come from? If they are basically immortal and can't be killed/destroyed through regular weaponry, wouldn't it have been better for them to have risen and devastated humanity centuries ago, when human military technology was still rudimentary?
4 - Humans can't kill vampires in a normal way, okay... But why can't vampires use regular firearms and bombs instead of swords and whips? Swordfights are indeed cool to watch but in a modern setting they are completely impractical - it is an obsolete method of fighting, more so during a fricking war.
5 - The name 'Mahiru Hiragi' was thrown around more than once, but it is never directly addressed or explained how this person singlehandedly developed demon weapon technology or why/how she became Guren's sword.
6 - Another important thing never addressed in the show: what's the political and social situation abroad? The show focused only in Japan, but the situation in the Americas, Africa, Europe or the rest of Asia is never disclosed or discussed whatsoever.
7 - Why wasn't the angel situation revealed or discussed before? Why must we finally meet angels only now? Why is everything so poorly explained, rushed - not only in the anime, but in the manga as well? What's their backstory? Reasons? Motivations?
8 - What the hell is a king of salt? Where did they take all this symbolism from? It's pointless, hollow and meaningless.
It is agonizingly frustrating to wait for answers - because they never come. A castle built without foundations ends up falling apart. I'd also like to make a point: the creators/writers know absolutely nothing about how actual military service works, or how does war take place. I'm far from being an expert on such subject, but one thing is fore sure: when you're in the heat of the battlefield, you CAN'T stop to talk. You CAN'T stop to wonder about the meaning of life. You CAN'T just gather your comrades just to spill out some sort of cliché discourse about friends or family. You must be aware of your surroundings, you must have at least two weapons for long and short-ranged attack. The characters behave like they are playing Paintball, it's absurd to say the least.
Art - 6/10
Owari no Seraph's art never was a main source of displeasure and concern. Far from original or beautiful, it is mediocre. Plain and simple. The character design is cookie-cut: the messy dark haired protagonist with a constantly fierce facial expression, the tall androgynous bishounen, the dark tall handsome bishounen whose face indicates he is confident and cynical, the small and child-bodied girl, the slightly taller girl with twin-tails and bigger breasts... The art style is cute, round and well drawn, but the designs lack innovation.
The watercolor-rendered backgrounds are sometimes dissonant to the animation, and it can be visually tiring to see that 'apocalyptic' background over, and over, and over.
Being a military organization, yes, green is not that of an odd choice - but neon, almost chartreuse green? A bad choice. Imperial blue, deep indigo or even burgundy/purpurrot could've been far better options.
Something that really bothered me all over - why do men wear full uniforms with trousers and boots while the women are almost constantly seen wearing skirts? Except for Mito Jujo, the red-haired tsundere that walks around with Guren's clique, I have seen no other female JIDA operatives wearing trousers. It is EXTREMELY anti-practical from a military standpoint to wear skirts, since trousers also have the purpose to protect the legs. We're talking about an army here, not a Fashion Week to display the Least Unoriginal Character Design™. The fact that female vampires fight in -hooded evening gowns with cleavages- is also worth laughter, due to its ridiculousness and sexism.
I won't even get into the Krul Tepes dilemma - an unoriginal 'goth lolita' design for a character that is basically a 700000 year old child. Nice try at pandering to pedophilic creeps while thinking no one would notice, producers. Nice try.
Do you wanna see something funny? When the characters are far from the camera, their movements become funnily stationary and they lose details, their faces - they become almost stickmen. If the producers themselves don't care about art treatment and post-production why should I?
Sound - 5/10
Just like the previous season, the franchise's sound production is lackluster and mediocre. The upbeat opening serves more as a magical girl opening, while the ending song tries to be epic and dramatic even tho such adjectives should be carefully used when addressing such a disappointing piece of work. The musical scores for battles, heartwarming moments etc are almost unnoticeable.
Characters - 2/10
As some people might already know, the main point of criticism of this series relies on the characters' shoulders. Even though the actors try to convey emotion and meaning to the cast they are voicing, it proves to be meaningless in the end because it is not a matter of plain execution, but a matter of bad, bad writing.
Yuichiro Hyakuya - The main character of the series started as one of the most annoying and obnoxious anime characters of all time. Not only he encompasses the personality of almost every shounen protagonist to date - the cliché 'hot headed and determined hero' - making him just another boring entry into this overused character archetype, he's also extremely inconsistent. He could switch his beliefs and motivations in a fingersnap, from a vengeful, bloodthirsty edgelord who couldn't stop saying 'I must kill vampires!' to a passionate and considerate team member who puts 'family' and 'friends' above everything.
I felt genuinely queasy, nauseated by how much Yuichiro repeats the works "kazoku" (family) and "nakama" (friends/partners). He just can't stop.
I cut him some slack for the fact he's progressed from one season to another. His actions were a little bit less impulsive, he stopped being a complete asshole by now treating his friends like worthy human beings. His roaring rampages of anger also eased a bit. Anyway, even tho he is far from what we could consider 'mature', he's less annoying, and that's good! However, in the season finale, he once again proves to be nothing more than a generic, over-powered, obsessed shounen hero. Everything about his development and progress as a character is crushed to the ground, once again.
Mikaela Hyakuya - He is probably one of the greatest frustrations of this anime. In the first season he barely had any screentime, only roaming around all mopey and gloomy, entertaining the idea of 'saving' Yuu. In this season he gained more visibility, but still, he's an one-dimensional character who offers no really thrilling or interesting narrative perspective/point of view. His hesitation in spilling the beans about the dreaded 'Seraph of the End' experiment is probably one of the most annoying traits of his almost non-existent personality. I feel the producers tried to make him some sort of Ken Kaneki (Tokyo Ghoul) - human character becomes half-monster against his will and now must deal with living in the borderline between both worlds - but it doesn't work in the slightest. His struggle to accept his vampire side is boring to watch. His edgy misanthropic catchphrases about 'humans and vampires being equals in evilness' also contribute to my bad impression of him.
I must also address and criticize the terrible queerbaiting this series suffers from, mostly protagonized by Mikaela and Yuichiro. Like, LGBT characters are almost non-existent in anime and manga, and when they finally appear, they are portrayed as villainous and/or die cruel, gruesome deaths. Instead, people rely on fujoshis to give them audience, with pathetic forced scenes that 'imply' (always imply, never confirm) same-sex attraction. To the producers and writers: stop playing the hopes of young gay anime fans who wish for more representation. If Mika and Yuu are supposed to be lovers, _outright_ portray them as such. Don't give us these pathetic, cringeworthy scenes animated for the only purposed of pandering to fujoshis. It is tiring and frustrating and ridiculous.
Shinoa Hiragi - Once again, she is still one of the few - if not the only - consistent character in the series. She's not as smug and bold as before, but her actions are justified and fair. She could've been a better character, more independent and more focused in solving the mysteries surrounding her sister, but anyway. I stand for my opinion that Shinoa should've been the true main character of the series. No more, no less.
Yoichi, Mitsuba, Kimizuki - A trio of useless characters who in the first season were criticized for their personalities. Yoichi is a shy and polite fujoshi bait, Mitsuba the annoying tsundere with twintails, and Kimizuki the asshole rival to the MC. Deservedly, they were reduced to background characters, only appearing or being relevant during fight scenes. Kimizuki's sister, Mirai, is sorta relevant - she's some sort of human-angel hybrid - and Mitsuba's older sister Aoi is Kureto's personal assistant, but that's enough about them.
Guren Ichinose and Shinya Hiragi - This duo of characters was surprisingly less disappointing than the rest of the cast. Even though they also suffer from a blatant lack of good writing, their scenes were dynamic and they acted pragmatically most of the time - like adults and as military, as they are. Even though I'm not too much into this 'shipping' business, I must confess they would make quite a good 'fight couple' if they were better characterized along with it. Guren's underhanded schemes with angels, demons and vampires should've also been better explored.
Guren's team - We have a red-headed character who fights using her own fists, a blond dude who casts illusionary spells with a smoking pipe, a quiet girl who has kunais and sets traps with razor floss and a girl whose weapon is a sword made out of those paper spells known as 'ofuda'. Cool and edgy, right? Yeah, nice! Do they have interesting personalities, motivations or characterization? NO. A waste of good designs and nice weapons.
Makoto Narumi and his crew - Makoto is probably one of the most unnecessary additions to the cast and the plot overall. I understand that his function was that to serve as a third point of view to these '5 member squad' dynamics enforced by the military organization he and the other humans work for, but it just doesn't work. His teammates are not even 'one-dimensional'. Their characterization is so lacking that they are nothing but 'dot' characters, I cannot even remember their names. The author's saving throw was to have them all killed in the penultimate episode, otherwise I'd be really annoyed. Makoto, as mentioned, is an unnecessary character, but he's at least far more mature than the MC and takes his military job seriously, apparently.
The Vampires - The vampires sometimes can be ever worse than humans, storytelling-wise. While the human characters are badly written and have annoying personalities, the vampires have... none. They all sound and act the same, like one big hivemind. They are sarcastic, witty, sadistic, obviously evil, obsessed with having humans as livestock... Except for Krul Tepes, the main vampire amongst their race, all the others have bland and cookie-cutter 'evil'/insensitive personalities. Crowley Eusford is overpower, being able to outmatch lots of opponents with implausible ease. His two handmaids, Horn Skuld and Chess Belle, have no other purpose than being shallow fanservice otaku-baits, with overly revealing clothing, big breasts and lustful/playful voice acting. Ferid Bathory is a character built to be scheming, enigmatic, but falls short to the role he was supposed to fit in.
Kureto Hiragi - The main big bad of the story so far is the ruthless, imperious and evil older sibling of the Hiragi family. I'll have to say this once again, so readers, I'm sorry for being so repetitive: he lacks motivations, he lacks reasons, he lacks characterization - He's just like the aforementioned humans and vampires: bland, boring, without any depth. His megalomanic plans of subjecting humans and vampires alike to the 'forces of heavens', in order to 'erase the sin from the world' are vague and unoriginal.
Enjoyment - 7/10
Saturday mornings can be boring and dull, and for that reason we seek entertainment, even tho said entertainment isn't intellectually fulfilling or life changing. Owari no Seraph's second season can be fun to watch. The fights are more dynamic and fluid, the plot (even if barely understandable) is less stagnant. Don't expect nothing breathtaking, but if you're willing to kill time, go ahead. Nonsensical plot devices are all over the place, so have fun spotting and criticizing them! The possibility of a third season or an OVA concluding the series was left wide open, so let's just wait for more cringeworthy sequences of bad writing, bad acting, bad worldbuilding and all things bad regarding this disaster of modern japanese animation!
Overall - 5/10
The Owari no Seraph franchise is one of the many evidences that the current anime industry needs some sort of reset/revolution as soon as possible. Relying on old, overused and annoying storytelling devices, it tries to create a 'new hit' rather than attempting to bring to watchers and readers a convincing, well-woven plot with strong, relatable characters that make you root for or against them. It's a hollow product - a messy patchwork made of flaps of other successful animes and mangas. It's unoriginal, uninspired, makes no sense and fails to bring quality content. Lost in its own pretentiousness in being 'the next big thing' in anime, Owari no Seraph lacks the essential of a good story: a reason to be. read more
Generic: such a simple word, but yet one that can also encapsulate a great deal of information with its utterance. Attach it to the title of a show and it works as a description without any need for further elaboration. Simply say "it's generic" and a picture is immediately imprinted onto the minds of the audience, as to what is to be expected. It's even better saying it out loud, follow after me and let's say it together:
"Owari no Seraph is generic!"
Now doesn't that just roll off the tongue with so much ease? Fits like a glove doesn't it? It's like the word itself was tailor made for this show. And perhaps that word is all that's needed to sum up this series.
There's really no change when it comes to this ill-conceived hogwash of clichés and overused tropes. It's still a poor man's version of better shounen stories, it's still subpar in quality, and it's still an intoxicating pile of throw-away excerpts from better established premises and ideas. Owari no Serpah is the "How to make a Basic Shounen for Dummies" in visual format. If 1st season didn't hammer that point in, then this season surely made sure to get the job done. But I guess there is one noticeable change worth noting, and that's that the show somehow manage to get worse. Through the magic of fujoshi bait, God awful writing and the power of friendship, this anime becomes a firework display of stupidity rarely achieved by many. It pushes forward into the throw-away abyss at breakneck speeds. And in its own way, it succeeds. It has proven that when you really try hard enough, when you really push long enough, and when you really care enough, you can enter even denser shounen bullshit territory. Ladies and gentlemen I present to
'Generic: the anime'.
Picking up from where we left off, we follow our protagonist MustProtectMyFamily-kun and the squadron of vampire slayers, as they gear up for an impending all-out battle with the vampires, in what is to be an attempt to regain control of Earth for the sake of humanity's survival. And while all this is going on, in the background there's an even more sinister plan being conjured up by ImTheObviousBadGuy-sama and his cohorts.
Now the setup for this season isn't all that bad, in fact, it's a traditional one that, if done right, can be quite rewarding to watch unfold. It's the classic clash of ideals and survival, where opposition reach a breaking point of unreachable compromise. The end all be all fight where the stakes are set on the highest pedestal. A Zero-sum dice roll, where only one side can walk away rewarded. These are the kind of stories that litter literature, cinema and TV on constant rotation, but despite that, can still offer up the same thrills and chair-gripping engagement expected from the best of them. But despite the long shelf-life that these kind of stories offer, if it's poorly written, no amount of the garnishing and repacking can be done to salvage it. And to no one's surprise, Owari no Seraph isn't going to be a show that defy that unspoken rule.
You see the problem with Seraph isn't the premise or idea, but rather the piss poor execution of it. The show just don't seem to have proper comprehension of what is needed of it to make this kind of story work. Its ineptitude runs deep into the core foundation of the show, from the garish narrative decisions, to the downright terrible plot conveniences tossed in to bail itself out of a tight squeeze. Every turn and corner leads into another questionable writing decision that really exposes the lack of foresight on the part of the creator, and improper planning on the part of the script writers. Throughout the show's run-time, this leads to numerous situations where our characters come face to face with death, only to have a last minute dues ex machina tossed in to fish them out of troubled water. And this doesn't just happen a few times, it happens on an endless cycle; most notably with our main protagonist MustProtectMyFamily-kun, who inexplicably survives more shit than even what's possible with the aid of basic plot armor. Its like he himself becomes the embodiment plot armor, to the point where his existence is met with guaranteed immunity, regardless of consequence. This creates some of the most uninspiring character struggle imaginable. There is zero tension to a story that goes out of its way to perform back flips around our lead.
But this isn't only limited to him, almost everyone that's given a name and a back-story is automatically in the safe zone, even if they're stabbed through vital organs. I can't properly explain this without taking special mention of the show's ending. For the sake of avoiding spoilers, just pay attention to the numerous times where our main characters not only live through death marker injuries, but also walk it off like it wasn't that big of deal, it's appalling. A spit to the face of proper writing. The only ones 'biting the bullet' are characters that are clearly introduced for the sake of dying a few episodes later. The moment they're introduced, a death flag is planted smack dab on their forehead. It's a old trick that wasn't good in other stories and isn't good now.
But Owari no Seraph S2 isn't all bad, if anything, there was a noticeable improvement in its art and animation. The fights carry more weigh behind it (non-figuratively speaking), the character models remained far more consistent from frame to frame, and the issue regarding the flat backgrounds are better worked around. It's a more palatable experience overall, and that, at the very least, deserves some credit. Also the color choices seemed better implemented. For example, the reds (burgundy to be more specific) and greens were far more eye catching than the often acid washed look of the 1st season. It wasn't that big of a change but it was enough to be noticed on a panel to panel comparison.
As far as the soundtrack goes, most of the content from the 1st season finds itself worked back into this season. If you liked S1's music score then S2 should suffice. However, the opening wasn't as instantaneous as the first. It feels more common placed in comparison to the harmonious balance found between the vocals and instruments of the 1st season's. Not a bad opening, but not as catchy as bellowing out "I'LL BE THERE, HOLD ON, THEY'LL CHANGE US SOMEHOW, SO WHERE ARE YOU NOWWW?", but it still gets the job done in its own way. Not singing in the shower level, but hey, music is subjective, so that depends entirely on the listener.
Despite the more noticeable issues this season had in comparison to the 1st, I still can't bring myself to hate this franchise. It's really just a soulless product that comes and goes without registering any sort of response from me. The fights were better put together but the narrative was more stupid. The animation was more eye catching but the content being animated was dumb. In a way, it just balanced itself out. A series that's forever just "ok" in my head.
Owari no Seraph is a show that's either passable or rejected betting on one factor, and that's personal experience. Like I've stated in my season 1 review, this anime serves as a gateway title to help you get a little insight into the medium's norm. And season 2 only furthers that trend. But where the line is drawn is that factor, that personal experience. If you've been a active follower of anime for an extended period of time, you've undoubtedly seen numerous of titles that plays out in the exact same order to what Owari offers. And from that vast selection, you've probably seen it play out far better as well. So with that in mind, this anime isn't made for long time anime viewers, it's made for the bright eyed newcomers who haven't consumed enough of these fast food titles to grow sick of them yet. Owari no Seraph can serve as a title to get others into the medium, but as far as those already steadfast in it, I cannot in good conscience recommend this 'John Smith: serial number 28927'.read more
* Hi there! This is my first review, so bear with me if it's badly written or judged. Constructive feedback is welcomed. *
Did you enjoy Seraph of the End (Owari no Seraph) Season 1? Then you'll probably enjoy this sequel. Personally, I don't like Seraph of the End as a whole, but the show has a few merits that keep it from being unbearable to watch.
NOTE: THIS REVIEW CONTAINS MINOR SPOILERS FROM THE FIRST SEASON.
From what we've seen so far, the animation is generally a lot more realistic and fluid than the first season's. In the first season, the animation was quite rigid and unrealistic, barely showing any kind of fluidity at all (e.g when Guren goes flying through the air in ep.10) and episodes would often use cheap "action lines" as a means to show multiple people fighting.
Honestly, the soundtrack isn't anything special, it works very well when it needs to but otherwise the sound is above average. The opening music is nice.
I think the art style of this show is beautifully done. Some might not like the hazy, painted and generally greyish background style (which really shows during scenes set outside) but I think it really captures the story's wasteland/apocalypse setting. These backgrounds always compliment what is being animated. The same can be said for the character and weapon designs, which also suit the story very well.
The story continues where we left off, and is based on the battle at Nagoya. The actual plot, so far, as boring, stale, and as shounen as the first season, so don't expect much development there. There are, however, more action scenes, which is what this show does a lot better than the first season. The second season, more so than the first, loves to shove themes of 'family' down your throat every single episode. I'd appreciate these themes if they were implemented with even a bit of subtlety, and would let the viewer make a personal connection rather than having it constantly spoon-fed to them, but instead these 'familial themes' get in the way of enjoyment. To its merit, the second season's premise is quite promising and interesting so far, and has a lot of potential to turn into something engaging.
What saved the show from being unwatchable for me were the moments based entirely on character interactions, episodes where the whole gang would just talk to each other and have a fun time. Yes, all of the characters are modelled off of common shounen stereotypes but that doesn't mean they aren't entertaining. The second season shows us how the characters have developed from the annoying and arrogant kids they were in the first season and are becoming slightly more mentally mature. If you don't like shounen main characters and common character types (e.g tsundere) which all receive below-standard development then you probably won't enjoy Seraph of the End's characters.
Seraph of the End's second season is quite enjoyable for fans of the series but to the people like me who didn't really find the show to be to their liking, skip this continuation. The only reason I'm not dropping the series is because of its (shounen, but) enjoyable characters, great art style, and okay animation.
Owari no Seraph depicts a post-apocalyptic struggle between humans and vampires. Both races seek to reclaim or claim the Earth for themselves, leading to a bloody war that blurs the border between monster and human being. Here are twenty quotes which question humanity!