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Feb 15, 2021 10:00 AM
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So u know how many non Japanese franchises have been made into anime like Batman, Avengers, Xmen, Powerpuff girls and I even heard a star wars anime might come out soon i might be wrong tho.

How do u feel about this? I personally don't care if they make it well.

And sorry if this forum has already been made but idk.
Feb 15, 2021 10:04 AM
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I haven't watched most of these types types of shows. I don't care much, but I would still prefer a well made new story I don't know over a well made adaptation of something I'm already familiar with.
Feb 15, 2021 10:09 AM
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I loved batman ninja. It is one of the good ones out of dc animated movies. ( i have watched almost all of dc animated movies expect for the recent ones)

also I don't care much about if japan makes non Japanese. They were making it since way back (most are from madhouse)
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Feb 15, 2021 10:09 AM
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Back when the world masterpiece theater was a thing they used to make those things annually and they were usually of high quality.
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Feb 15, 2021 10:10 AM
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eh i don't really care.The only times i care are when they're just low quality boring shit shows
Feb 15, 2021 10:12 AM
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it is completely unacceptable cultural appropriation
Feb 15, 2021 10:30 AM
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I don't care about them at all.Like many other's said.

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Feb 15, 2021 10:39 AM
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I think Madhouse actually made a lot of those marvel superhero series, but they apparently sucked.
Feb 15, 2021 10:45 AM
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Well another animes I'm not going to watch, nothing more nothing less. I'm watching animes because I don't like to watch lots of non-anime movies/serials (from the ones you mentioned I liked only xmen as normal movie, but still wasn't interested in watching anime version).
I think they should continue making only animes from their sources and not from west sources but as long as it won't have bad impact on count of animes made from their own sources I don't care.
Feb 15, 2021 11:09 AM

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NilsLikeAnime said:
I don't like shipping cultures, Vinland saga bothers me a lot because I am a fan of the series "Vikings". You don't combine Vikings and Japan, they have nothing to do with each other. Not that it's bad, it's just really annoying and feels wrong. I haven't seen much else but I suppose I would think the same for other things too
I understand this idea, but the sheer amount of artistic works, media, and other cultural things that make (varying degrees of gratuitous) use of stuff from totally different cultures is ...well, to put it simply, we're not putting this genie back in the bottle.

I mean, I recently heard about a western animated movie that's set in Japan, and I thought "isn't that kinda weird?", but then how many anime series are set in Europe? For that matter, how many non-Europeans have written stories about European-style vampires and gothic horror? How often have westerners idolized and fetishized things from the far east or other foreign cultures? This stuff's been going on since trade routes were a thing, basically.
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Feb 15, 2021 11:18 AM

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I for one think this is a great idea. Those specific franchises you have mentioned I think can work better as animes than films if done well. I'm a huge fan of American comics and I love the possible stories they can tell. Marvel and Dc characters especially work better as serialized stories, just look at the success of the MCU. Do we need to have anime adaptation for those franchises? Well no, but it would be amazing to see a Japanese spin on these iconic characters.
On another note, western video game franchises are getting anime style adaptations like the Witcher, Cyberpunk, and Assassins Creed. These games especially, I think will work way better as anime than live action. My point is, why limit these franchises? Well unless its shit.
Feb 15, 2021 11:32 AM

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I guess it depends some of them are so over exposed in our culture that I wouldn't really care. That said hey if an anime studio wants to work with Games Workshop to do something for 40k I would be all over it. Recently finished Moriarty the Patriot and it was a pretty decent take on Sherlock Holmes (I have only read a few Doyle works to be fair).
Feb 15, 2021 11:35 AM

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NilsLikeAnime said:
I don't like shipping cultures, Vinland saga bothers me a lot because I am a fan of the series "Vikings". You don't combine Vikings and Japan, they have nothing to do with each other. Not that it's bad, it's just really annoying and feels wrong. I haven't seen much else but I suppose I would think the same for other things too


Anime is literally a product of shipping cultures. Most cultures in general are a product of cultural intermingling. Vinland Saga is pretty comparable to a lot of the big "Viking series" like Last Kingdom or Vikings. Vikings is so historically inaccurate and even with some of it's issues VS does try to some extent to bring some historical events to life even with the anime esque battles/some character writing or some stuff not lining up correctly (historical Thorfinn went to America in 1010 whereas most of the events in prologue took place in 1016). The difference is hardly significant though. You also have series in your favorites like AOT (Germanic/Norse) and others that would fall under Western high fantasy. So you like it more than you let on.
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I'm completetly indifferent to them.

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Theo1899 said:
Back when the world masterpiece theater was a thing they used to make those things annually and they were usually of high quality.
I see, you're a man of culture as well.
Feb 15, 2021 12:44 PM

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I personally don't care if they make it well.
Same here.
But the opposite has also happened. The All You Need is Kill manga never got an anime adaptation but it did become a Tom Cruise movie. As far as I know the movie actually isn't bad
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It's not something I personally would watch most of the time since I have no interest in most these franchises but if they're well made why the hell not? There's probably gonna be Alot of people who enjoy it so I won't shit on it just because it doesn't interest me
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NilsLikeAnime said:
I don't like shipping cultures, Vinland saga bothers me a lot because I am a fan of the series "Vikings". You don't combine Vikings and Japan, they have nothing to do with each other. Not that it's bad, it's just really annoying and feels wrong. I haven't seen much else but I suppose I would think the same for other things too


For example the clothing style and some other props, what they used in the "Vinland Saga" was usually more close to real dark ages stuff, compared to that fantasy style leather gear what they used in "Vikings" tv-series. Visual look from series like Vikings or Last Kingdom was quite different than in real historical times. http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/daily_living/text/clothing.htm

Vikings Tv Series Historical Evaluation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKOJzoq09zM

Leather biker gear in Vikings Season 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO6gQK5uA5M

'Ring mail' and jerkins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcQ0GaJ0EU

Satirical video from modern tv viking cliches:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhP9acA8WeE
Feb 15, 2021 1:06 PM
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I don't really care about them. If credit is given, I don't think it's a bad thing. I kinda dig the art style for Powerpuff Girls Z ngl, though I don't really find the story interesting.


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you heard it wrong. anime became a buzzword and gets pasted onto everything as a selling point.
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they had OG batman anyways with berserk
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NilsLikeAnime said:
I don't like shipping cultures, Vinland saga bothers me a lot because I am a fan of the series "Vikings". You don't combine Vikings and Japan, they have nothing to do with each other. Not that it's bad, it's just really annoying and feels wrong. I haven't seen much else but I suppose I would think the same for other things too


I think that sometimes combining cultures can be beautiful. It depends how it's done. JoJo's bizzare adventure is an anime beloved by many, and it takes place in many countries. Vikings and japan may not make sense from your perspective, but that doesn't mean that combining them wouldn't work. I believe it's possible to create a wonderful anime about vikings.
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Feb 15, 2021 1:32 PM

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I'm fine with it. I wasn't nearly as disappointed with the X-Men anime or Ninja Batman as everyone else. I'll agree Wolverine sucked though.

As far as I'm concerned, they're all still better than what we did to Dragon Ball..Never forget..
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I don't mind but I want an Crazy rich asians anime version.


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Feb 15, 2021 2:09 PM

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I just remember another western franchise, what have at least one anime adaptation. Highlander I'm a fan on Highlander action movies from the 80-90's but have never seen the later ones, other that this weird anime. https://myanimelist.net/anime/2178/Highlander__The_Search_for_Vengeance

Anime version from Matrix was actually quite nice. https://myanimelist.net/anime/1303/The_Animatrix
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If it is quality content, then why not. Cultures and techniques should collide to improve each other and create new things.

Feb 15, 2021 2:24 PM

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Rapidrift said:
So u know how many non Japanese franchises have been made into anime like Batman, Avengers, Xmen, Powerpuff girls and I even heard a star wars anime might come out soon i might be wrong tho.

How do u feel about this? I personally don't care if they make it well.

And sorry if this forum has already been made but idk.


Personally, I prefer they stick with anime originals. There is a reason I watch anime and not american cartoons. And yes, there is a cultural difference that is very distinct. I never once thought of Avatar as an anime, nor anything else that was very clearly not of Japanese origins.
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Feb 15, 2021 9:07 PM
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Not really interested in them but I don't really see any harm




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I'd rather take another weird PowerPuff Girls magical girl anime spoof instead of more of the atrocious 2016 reboot or a fricking young adult live-action drama with the trio being edgy.... no seriously, who on earth thought that either of these would be good ideas? What's with the needless nostalgia reaping here?
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I don't mind either especially since a lot of the first anime I watched where adaptations of Western novels.
Feb 15, 2021 9:41 PM

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I think they shouldn't make a western franchise that already have much adaptation , i prefer them taking some novels as adaptation such as Brandon Sanderson's works as anime
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If they take the overall plot and completely Japanify everything else about the franchise, then I might be interested. Maybe. Not interested in seeing a 1:1 translation of Hollywood pablum that just happens to be redone with anime art though.
Feb 16, 2021 2:27 AM

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In the past (Takarajima, Lupin III, almost everything from WMT) it worked 9 of 10 times but nowadays we have the Webtoon adaptations...

Still being optimistic I would like to see anime versions of:

Stand Still Stand Silent - http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=1
(some viking flavour to it)

and

Gaia - http://www.sandraandwoo.com/gaia/2011/11/01/cover/
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I don't have anything against anime about non asian things but I'm not a fan of most comics . They just milk the same things over and over and over again and I wouldn't want to see anime do things like that. It's not like anime doesn't have stories that are being milked to no end but many western series (especially comics) take that to another level
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it is completely unacceptable cultural appropriation

I disagree. Neither side is being exploited.
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I'm perfectly fine with it and there's absolutely nothing wrong about it! It's not a recent trend either and goes back to at least 1969(maybe earlier) when Moomins, the second anime from the World Masterpiece Theater series was made. Which, btw, are actually masterpieces as their name says and more people should watch them!!!
Feb 16, 2021 2:48 AM

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No problem at all. Actually, I'd like to see more.
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I think it's pretty cool. A lot of Series /Stories I grew up with were made into Anime (or were half German and half Japanese) and those were absolutely marvelous.
I don't mind it when other Countries /Cultures are being used /made in a show as long as it's done properly.
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I really don't give a damn if it's a good plotted show.

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2077 said:
it is completely unacceptable cultural appropriation

I disagree. Neither side is being exploited.

yeah maybe i should've clarified but was a joke lmao
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Its not an issue. I just wish that most of the time it would be decent enough to watch.
In most cases its non-japanese works trying to break into the Japanese market. and its nice to see them try to reach out.

I mean we wouldn't have gotten some good ones like Afro Samurai, Animatrix.

Marvel and DC are a mixed bag for me. They are either good to watch or bad.
Japan has been doing anime on non-japanese works for some time, I mean Ghibli for example a number of the films are based of western novels.

And some of the old classics are based of The Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

And now we are even seeing them breaking into the Korean works.
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If it is quality content, then why not. Cultures and techniques should collide to improve each other and create new things.
i agree, but some are rly ass.
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Anime is literally a product of shipping cultures. Most cultures in general are a product of cultural intermingling. Vinland Saga is pretty comparable to a lot of the big "Viking series" like Last Kingdom or Vikings. Vikings is so historically inaccurate and even with some of it's issues VS does try to some extent to bring some historical events to life even with the anime esque battles/some character writing or some stuff not lining up correctly (historical Thorfinn went to America in 1010 whereas most of the events in prologue took place in 1016). The difference is hardly significant though. You also have series in your favorites like AOT (Germanic/Norse) and others that would fall under Western high fantasy. So you like it more than you let on.


I did say I didn't think it was bad, I just really find it annoying how a Viking is portrayed in anime. Like how they talk, this might stem from the fact that I am a fan of the Vikings series on Netflix. How they act and talk don't really sit right with me. But that doesn't mean I won't enjoy it, is that dumb? That I can enjoy something that's wrong and stupid. When you put it like that Idk, I think I am confusing myself at this point


I mean even if you want to pull the language aspect it's not like Vikings keeps the Anglo Saxons speaking Anglo Saxon and the "vikings" are just speaking in English with a Scandinavian accent. As for how they act specifics would be nice but regardless in historical fiction people exaggerate stuff to increase interest in the narrative or to conform to some narrative desire they want. Sometimes justified sometimes not.

I will be honest though they all have problems but I enjoyed VS more than Vikings and Last Kingdom. Honestly I have tried some period dramas of late but nothing is really clicking for me. It's not like I don't really enjoy historical drama/films either it's one of my favorite genres.

You can have whatever preference you want I just find the idea of disliking it based on the idea of "shipping cultures" as you put to be incredibly hypocritical if you like anime at all.
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A bit late to the party. That's been a think for decades now, and some excellent works have come out of it.

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NilsLikeAnime said:

I do not disagree, but I just don't like it that the vikings are talking in japanese like any other anime as I relate vikings to big bad brutes. I also do am a big fan of romance animes and they talk exactly the same as Vinland saga. And I am used to the Netflix series Vikings, I think that's mainly why


Look, anime voice actors have no obligation to conform to your stereotypes about vikings. You have no obligation to like it. The root of this stereotype seems to come from the Vikings hostility to their neighbors, and the fact that their neighbors took notes that ended up in a fair few history textbooks. I don't know what the Vikings were like when they weren't fighting enemys, but it would be unreasonable to assume that they are all big bad brutes all the time.
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I guess my biggest wish is for my fave cartoon to be adapted into anime.
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I like it when a culture adapts something from another culture n an actual decent manner. Howl's Moving Castle is based on a Western novel (British if I recall correctly), and that movie was pretty good, and Gankutsuou is pretty notable example too.

I'm still going to criticize a shit adaptation, whether it's a Western or Eastern adaptation, but when done well I'm a fan. Kind of why I hate piss poor Western adaptations, because there's actual potential there that they squander.
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