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| So many death flags raised this episode. |
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So my Kokoro x Mitsuru is happening AND Finally gay Ikuno confirmed |
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| Really good episode. It was satisfying to watch some light-hearted episode after all of this shit. Good development for almost everyone. The highest time. Klaxosaur`s princess - this is going to be entertaining. The flashback when Ichigo and the team forgave and accepted 02 was a moment of animation brilliance. Not counting the commentary from Ichigo this should be viewed as a silent scene. A great one - so much emotions were portrayed without uttering a single word. I was amazed and moved. Well fuckin` done. 13rinWinged said: I like it, just hear me out..... I feel like relationships are so forced. Espically ZeroTwo and Hiro. Like from being eccentric to crazy and now happy, this development is just stupid with ZeroTwo and very rushed. I understand the development but it happens way to quickly and rushed. Plus I just don't feel like their relationship is genuine, I liked it better with the memories forgotten as I felt like it wasn't so forced. . Well, the change is totally justified and not rushed at all. She has fullfilled her lifetime goal of finding her Darling. And everyone in the team accepted her. She is living with her darling without problems for a month. If reaching your life-goal is not something that justify being happy and cheerful then I do not even know what will justify it. And what is so forced about it? He is the only one that treated her with some dignity and "respect". To everyone else she was just a tool to reach their means. Kokoro rejects Futoshi's feeling and abandons him and Futoshi and Kokoro acts like it's nothing. And we have no reason so far for Kokoro to even like Mitsuru so why are the kissing. What is the reason, does Kokoro want to make babies that badly? Well Futoshi is not eating because of it. Seems so. And Kokoro is just not giving a shit. It is just sad reality - 99 out of 100 girls will chose a edgy, full of himself prick rather than a mr-nice-guy fatty. She just like badboys and she is not that innocent as she acts(was even stated by her in EP 10 or 11). |
 I was expecting a new song opening, then wishing they will stay the song and use the 2nd verse so its a win-win for me hehehe ~ but then the animation scares me  and left me overthinking that what if the klaxosaur hand was 006  in the opening ~ no wonder the song title itself "Kiss of Death"  or idk...Anyway I love Mitsuru x Kokoro but I feel bad for Futoshi  |
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| This show would definitely be a lot better if these kids were 5 years younger. No romance bullshit just innocent kids trying to figure out life and friendship and survival and the most intriguing as of late, the truth about the current state of their world, the klauxaurs and shit like that. |
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| WOW the OP visuals significantly improved! no! it's really breathtaking! At first i tought it was an acoustic version but its kind of an improved version of the original OP music! impossible! something's fishy! did miss an episode or something!? Is my memory serving me wrong!?!? and my logic is not fuctioning... -> that's what my thoughts are on the early parts of this episode -This includes Zero Two being frendly to anyone. -Kokoro directly kissing new hair cut Mitsuru. -Taking care of themselves like cooking laundry etc. So what happened? did someone tamper and bend reality? 5/5. |
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SNDT said: yeah, it's stupid right? So let's just make it about romance just like 95% of all anime to pander to virgin weebs phahahah jesusPrimeX said: yeah, 10 yo kids trying to figure out life phahahah jesusThis show would definitely be a lot better if these kids were 5 years younger. No romance bullshit just innocent kids trying to figure out life and friendship and survival and the most intriguing as of late, the truth about the current state of their world, the klauxaurs and shit like that. |
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| The water intro looks freaking GREAT. 02 is freaking adorable when shes happy... well... that's not to say she isn't adorable when shes pissed and stuff too but WAY CUTER WHEN SHE HAPPY. Watching them just living like this for an episode was nice, though a little worrying given their situation at the moment. Also 02 draws really freaking good. |
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PrimeX said: This show would definitely be a lot better if these kids were 5 years younger. No romance bullshit just innocent kids trying to figure out life and friendship and survival and the most intriguing as of late, the truth about the current state of their world, the klauxaurs and shit like that. Oh please no, it will be turn into generic shounen trope |
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Prog_upworks13 said: Depends on how they'll handle it besides, with a story like that it will never be your typical shounenPrimeX said: This show would definitely be a lot better if these kids were 5 years younger. No romance bullshit just innocent kids trying to figure out life and friendship and survival and the most intriguing as of late, the truth about the current state of their world, the klauxaurs and shit like that. Oh please no, it will be turn into generic shounen trope |
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13rinWinged said: Yes, I didn't say it was unjustifiable, I did say I understood why. But what I'm saying is she isn't just acting happy but her personality has changed. She has every right to act happy, I think you are misinterpreting my words. But what I felt was strange was the fact that again her actual personality has changed and not just that she is happy. Also, I said it was rushed because it hit you all at once and they have no time for development as they waster 12 episodes or pointless drama and way too long of world building. Well, "what happened to your wild side?" then? Yeah, might be seen as forced. For me it felt natural(as long as she is among her darling/her friends and as long as there is no danger to any of them). Hell when I start my working week I am kind of angry and down, sometimes even mean. When it is Friday I am a totally different person - friendly and happy. Like a different person. I exaggerated it a bit but I am sure you will understand what I try to picture. Lets see how will she behave in the next episodes. It may be silent before the storm. 13rinWinged said: I'm just going to ignore the last paragraph of stuff because I can't tell if your serious and I think what I said about Kokoro and such was true. I think your excuse for what I said in trying to defend the show was silly. But I still believe she has no reason to like Mitsuru, even if she isn't all that innocent. We don't get much screen time with them so what I am saying is justifiable. I do not try to defend the show. She liked Mitsuru because Mitsuru is an arrogant prick while Futoshi is mr. nice guy. Mitsuru was not giving a single shit when he was approached by her while Futoshi is always: You are beautiful and so on. Some girls loves being ignored. Mitsuru is a total opposite of Futoshi. I am pretty sure she is based about a regular girl with that mentality. I have met a lot of them so for me this is just a natural explanation for her behaviour. http://www.sosuave.com/articles/ignoring-a-girl-to-attract-her.htm "When someone refuses to pay us any mind, it throws into question our own sense of self-worth. If you are the type who is used to constant attention, the results could be unsettling for you psyche, or it could even feel like a breath of fresh air." 13rinWinged said: Sorry if this makes no sense, so please bear with me. Anyways, I feel like it was forced as I don't feel like Hiro has a reason to like ZeroTwo besides the fact that they knew each other when they were young. Perhaps I should say unnatural than forced. As I didn't feel like Hiro really fell in love with ZeroTwo and only did so because it helped move the plot. Why did Hiro fall in love? I kinda can see why ZeroTwo did but Hiro? I'm mainly talking about before he got his memories, and I still don't see why he would fall in love with ZeroTwo after the memories, I felt like instead of love, he should of feeling more family-like love than sexual love. Get it? It is debatable on the Hiro`s side. I agree with you. But this is the biggest problem of the most of the animes. 13rinWinged said: I like this show but remember, it's flawed and it's important to acknowledge them than trying to defend them to make it seem perfect. Though I am sure some of my arguemnet is wrong. There is no thing such as perfect show. Simple as that. Not even starting that they are not doubting serious stuff as the human-shaped klaxosaurus, big hand or the things that old lady has said to the Zorome. Should already be adressed. |
| It's hard to believe how far have the show developed, despite all the bumps so far DiTF hasn't let go of its momentum yet and keep bringing us twist after twist, hints after hints to pick up the hype as well as pacing. The execution in this episode was brilliant, new OP is very sick and the ED is nice as well. I really enjoy the slice of life tone mixed with stormy foreshadowing in this episode, one moment ago the characters were having fun, a few seconds later we got hints of some shit coming and I don't even wanna think about it. People have been analyzing and well I must say while they're doing a great job I'd like to play the ignorant here so I might be able to fully enjoy the train of drama in the late game. On a side note, is it just me or the animation quality has just increased a lot or maybe the last week break made me feel like I've only just started the anime lol. |
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| For those who are acompanying or are interested, NEARLY_ON_RED released the analysis for Episode 16. Check it out. |
| Prediction time! Miku has graying hair, so I think that she might actually end up dead. Zero Two is probably going to sacrifice herself somehow by the end, and the show will conclude with Hiro going out to search for her. Kokoro is going to try and make a baby with Mitsuru. Now whether or not the kids are sterile I can't say, but I saw this coming a mile away. Ichigo won't die, she'll survive the whole series. Goro might die protecting her just as she's finally begun to return his feelings (I really hope I'm wrong because I love Goro.) Zorome is gonna snap after he realizes how much 'Papa' has ruined their lives. He might die too. |
Ericonator said: By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.  |
| I just realized something HYDE (L'Arc-en-Ciel) composed the opening song and it was sung by Mika Nakashima. Man, these names bring back memories. I'm sure a lot of younger Anime and manga fans aren't familiar with them. I feel if HYDE himself sung the OP song it would've been ten times better. His voice is gorgeous. UGH. They're eating SHIT! :( No adults, no caretakers, no decent food and lots of disgusting MREs. OMG My OTP kissed! Mitsuru x Kokoro kissed! This is one of the best couples in this entire series. I yelled so fucking loud kimchi was coming out of my mouth. Now all they need to do is have sex. Kokoro will get her baby and they'll have MORE drama. TOO BAD YO MAN WANTS TO RIDE HIRO'S DICK. He all about that yaoi, gurl.  I get the whole feeling sorry for Futoshi thing but Kokoro doesn't like him obviously, you can't force her to like him just because he likes her. In my opinion, Futoshi deserves someone better who will like him for him and not just pity him. I'm sure they're going to meet new characters and he'll find a new partner... or he'll die. Poor kid has bulimia though. I'm also kind of loving and hating Zero Two's new personality, I kind of enjoyed her being an ass and also hated it at the same time... Nah, I prefer her old personality. No more of that 'sweet girl' act, she is a femdom and she can dominate every single one of them. There is a hint of yuri in the ED visuals. Now we need a yuri orgy with all the girls now. |
ApawtheCorgiJoMay 11, 2018 11:20 PM
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| Battle aftermath / team building blah blah. Calm before the storm. That end though. Zero Two's sister? |
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| I'm waiting for the manga version of this episode, that bath scene tho. |
13rinWinged said: [ But that's just being emotional and such. Your not changing your personality, though I think I may flip a table because I'm sure her personality will change. It's a guarantee, espically with all these flipping death flags. Ohh, I see, you make an excellent point and I shall take it properly into account. Though I feel like it's just not enough for love, maybe attraction but not love. They have no reason to love each other like love interests. I am sure we will get a reason in the future, but for now, we have none. My number one problem is the writers. First, with the absolute horrible setup as at least 10 episodes are wasted in drama when the characters and world building could be showcased in much better ways and 10 episodes without a concrete plot besides teen drama with mechas used to only have the action tag on it. Now we need to somehow stuff the rest of the plot in the remaining and we have no idea if there is a season two. And if there is, who knows when that will start, it could be 10 years later until the first trailer for season two would be released. One of my biggest problems is Hiro himself. He lacks personality. As he has no outstanding character design, but this isn't bad, it's a strategy. They make them simple so it's easier for the watcher to relate to the character as they are more "us" like. But, we can't relate if they have no personality to relate too. He seems so out of place, sometimes it just feels like he's there to just to be an anchor for ZeroTwo and nothing else, ( I know that isn't true ). All the other characters are static and somewhat shallow, besides Ichigo and (ZeroTwo but I have a few problems against ZeroTwo) though I think characters are half-baked and development between characters, espically in a loving sense, is where a lot of the problems stem from. I can explain in more depth about why each character kinda sucks, so just ask me if you want. I feel like too much attention is focused on the main two that we get nothing on anyone else, which is why we get no good reason for the love between Kokoro and Misturu. Plus this makes all the rest of the cast shallow and we get to know nothing about Hachi or Nana which just makes them simply info dispensers and nothing more. I'm fine with static and round characters but they have to be in the right setting. In an anime like Darling in the Franxx, having these kinds of charatcers make it a downfall, while in Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou (manga), these kinds of characters add to its appeal. They need to make it like Eureka Seven (anime) when even when the main two aren't together there is still developing between the two and we some of the best character development between not only the main but a few others! As you can tell, I highly recommend it and it is made from the same studio. Haha, I just found out, your so much older than I am. Sorry if I have come off disrespectful. This was quite a enjoyable discussion but the last episode proved me something. We are not ready to discuss all those things cause the show is not finished and the last episode... was clearly a suprise. This might get even more suprising till the end. There is no point in discussing a lot of those points. Not yet. Thank you very much for a quality discussion. It was respectful all along. I wish more people could discuss things like you did. I do not care how old someone is. As long as the discussion is civil and respectful. |
| Lovely episode, the show is back to its good form, even these slower episodes feel really worth watch now. Hope it can keep it up. I m also trashing for that kiss, I hope that slut find an horrible death, I wish the studio would stop focusing on her, I actually like Mitsuru, but she can go and die. Acentix said: Does no one feel bad for Futoshi? I mean his partner left him and now she's in love with Mitsuru. You must not have been reading then, I m have been calling that shit out everyone episode it happens, it still pisses me off alot, I wish I couldnt care, but now I just want to see meet an horrible end, maybe I will be sad about it then, but it is better than feeling disgusted right now to what she did with almost no remorse to fatty. I believe I m not the only one butthurted about her neither. |
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| I guess Futoshi's problems are solved.. |
| The girls bathing was the highlight. Boring otherwise. |
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You know because of Kokoro's kiss, this scene in particular flew under the radar: I didn't notice it until I rewatched it.  There are a couple of reasons for this: - She's aging due to a genetic flaw that shortens the pilot's lifespan and whether she knows about it and hiding it or just finding about it just recently. - She's not who she claims to be; a spy perhaps or just somebody assuming someone else's identity for whatever reason yet to be revealed. - She's already an adult; perhaps another experiment hidden in plain sight. |
Janethan23May 26, 2018 2:45 PM
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| A nice new OP animation and ED, quite liked this overall episode quite a lot as well as it had some real group character development! Do wonder what that ending was all about! Let's find out next. |
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| Alright, the OP's visual has changed while the still amazing song remains. This new OP is very interesting as it has many potentially shocking events hidden into it. Such as where at one point near the end of the OP, Hiro and Zero 2 can't touch each other and Zero 2 eventually disappears... IS THIS A FORESHADOWING That Zero 2 will die or something?!!?! I can't comment on the ED cuz this show got too much of it for its length. After a series of long and hard battle, it's finally time for a relaxing slice of life... I'm really happy to see Zero 2, Hiro and the others joyfully spending their time together and trying as best as they can to survive whilst still having fun. I see the ship of Mitsuru X Kokoro is sailing strong, especially after episode 11! However, it went even further until the point that Mitsuru's personality goes 180 around Kokoro, treating her kindly whilst smiling and complimenting her. Though this really surprises me...  I truly never expected Kokoro out of all to jump in and kissed Mitsuru. Well, Futoshi! Kokoro is better off with Mitsuru as a couple, lol, I wonder how he'll react if he's aware of this.Despite the fun day they had, there's always something t ruin the mood, such as Futoshi not wanting to eat his foo. But this all boils down to Papa. Even though it's kind of the Doctor's responsibility since he's the one commanding nobody to go near the kids. That last person is probably the person in the OP, AKA as the adults called it... The Klaxosaurs' Queen! |
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| liking the new animation for the opening, it fits a lot with what's going on now. kokoro x mitsuru forever |
| omfg smiling Zero Two is good civilisation best thing to touch this planet. Not really new OP but new animation is crispppp. Love it but i feel like the ending kinda spoils it :c lmao i legit stood up from my chair and screamed "no" after seeing it xd honestly great episode, really touches the heart to see that zero two has warmed up so much to the squad and has becoming a lot more positive lately, that going for everyone tbh in this weird crisis. However through the cracks something is obviously wrong, adults seemed to have literally opened the dictionary found the word "expendable" and replaced the definition with "lmao these kids lol" and i've got a weird feeling those 'tests' are more important then we think. Honestly Mitsuru has to have one of the best character development's i've seen. Really liked his development of hating Hiro to thinking about why he really does and changing from it. To completely contradict this ,not saying i hate this choice necessarily, but Mitsuru and Kokoro? Very weird chemistry i can't really understand how they work but end of the day i aignt an anime company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ending scene with Hiro and Zero Two getting all cuddly is cute af, they deserve all the best also those credit scenes *yurification intensify* |
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| These SoL episodes are the most fun to me somehow, don't care that much about all the fighting. |
| New OP, sound like good. |
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| Wait ... Miku's getting grey hair? Is she becoming an "adult" or is she dying soon? Mitsuru and Kokoro huh, was a long time coming but they finally kissed. Wonder who the girl in the final scene is, looked a bit like Zero Two |
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| Great heartwarming episode. I guess the group will never be under Papa after this, I wonder however what and where they will go. |
| You know I appreciate Zero Two now being part of the group but I can't get behind this new personality. I would really have prefered she keep her superior attitude and dominance just without going to crazy extents with it. She seems so passive now that its like a completely different character. Tsk. I suppose with this happy episode of the bonding of the team that things will take a turn now. I wonder if this show is going to take the route of all the pilots having short lives in order to give them the abilities that they have. Its been done in other works so I can see it happening to force in a tragic end. Something happening to Zero Two to threaten either her life or her humanity seems assured as well, whether it can be overcome is the question. I suppose after declaring their love for each other Zero Two and her darling are in a platonic or maybe sibling relationship? Not that type of anime so I guess no adult activities but I find it so unrealistic that there seems no progress here after a month. Kokoro still has that baby book right? She not thinking about it anymore? Finally up and kisses whatshisface but haven't seen the fat one cry over her anymore so I suppose the drama there is done? Ichigo is no longer pining over Hiro? Goro over Ichigo? Suppose these adolescent crushes fade. Though maybe the plot is going to have them pop back up to cause useless drama when it will interfere with a battle? Shall find out. |
gswelcomeJul 6, 2020 6:19 PM
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| the new OP visuals were so stunning kokoro giving mitsuru his haircut was cute! love them ♡ also don’t see why people can’t give that whole fake NTR shit a rest & kokoro getting so much hate why would one get so worked up over futoshi & kokoro unless one identifies with him lol she doesn’t have to reciprocate his feelings? she’s not obligated to. they are clearly all in some sort of test to see how they would rise up to the occasion/react differently it has been mentioned multiple times throughout that this group of Children are different they are meant to rebel/react differently & anyway futoshi is clearly over it so glad to see zero two back to her normal self and working on herself & bonding with the girls. miku washing her hair for her omg so cuteeeeee loved that whole cooking scene & them skipping the papa prayer, it was very symbolic of their independence them breaking down & being vulnerable was so hard to watch loved the new ED! the music of DITF is always amazing |
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| Im really enjoying this anime lmao |
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| Pretty good, relaxing ep, but the Zoroman drama came out of nowhere and was really abrupt. Good to see Zero Two back to her cute ways. Pretty sure the no contact from Nana, basic food and enforced self sufficiency the kids are being subjected to is an attempt to prepare them for recolonizing the surface. They're being tested to see if they can band together and survive alone. |
| okay but can we talk about the ed song??? Ikuno??? does she likes Ichigo???? omggggg all this thinking it was Mitsuru that liked Hiro |
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| A beautiful episode tbh. Loved how 02 has been fully accepted by the group and is contented with what she has now. Also Mitsuru has changed a lot and I guess his new haircut symbolises changes in him. Also I didn't expect Kokoro to kiss Mitsuru all of a sudden. Futoshi was most likely dieting to win Kokoro-chan's attention. Also great to see the squad exchange their feeling and share their thoughts. Never saw all of them this happy in a while :') Also looks like the Klaxosaur queen or 'princess' as Papa and gang says was somewhat shown to us. What if she's like 02 but more Klaxosaur? |
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| So they're like abandoned in their home but they keep in touch like giving out rations, Zero Two is in a good mood her personality became so positive I like that side of her, The OP looks so sick it's visually pleasing and it sounds like the same as the first one Mitsuru's cut was noticeable and oh a kiss coming from Kokoro damn Mitsuru, I think Zero Two's new personality will change a lot of things positively I mean just look at her being gleeful now with the group a very nice change of pace They cooked their own food and the three went fishing although Hiro didn't catch any, And what's happening to Futoshi he's probably hiding something for himself and it does not look good. |
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