| In some countries you could get in trouble for that. In Japan it's officially produced and sold, so naturally, it's legal there. |
| MAL you gotta better hide this from your database. https://myanimelist.net/anime/32587/Shoujo_Ramune?q=ramune Before it's too late. |
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| The age factor doesn't really matter in hentai/anime... |
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| Nah its not child porn. For it to be considered child porn, there need to be actual children in them. And no one wants to watch that cause its fucking disgusting. Hentai with underage girls is pretty common and legal in Japan. But not outside Japan. You can get into serious trouble for owning loli hentai or doujins. |
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| This here should tell you how it is: |
Swagernator said: nah I'm fine man. According to Finnish laws, it's not illegal to own totally fictional child pornMAL you gotta better hide this from your database. https://myanimelist.net/anime/32587/Shoujo_Ramune?q=ramune Before it's too late. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors |
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| legally, depend on the country, and mostly yes... personally, they aren't... anime is drawn, age is just number slapped to them... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| but officer, she's a 300 year old vampire |
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| No. It's drawing porn. The things you're looking at are drawings. |
| many hentai settings were highschool so i wouldnt consider a highschool student a child. but 14-17 i would still called it an underage though but you know, shit like Shoujo Ramune, or Toshi Densetsu, or that one hentai that they’re having a conversation in bench and then doing it, thats child hentai man. i dunno why i always have a conflicted feeling watching child hentai. it’s weird but it’s good but it’s wrong but it’s nice. |
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| They're not actual children so no. just drawings |
| In sweden it is okej as long as they are above 15. Its depends on which country u are from. And some ppl in here is dumb, its just drawing. i want to see u say that to the court. lol |
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Nillwas92 said: And some ppl in here is dumb, its just drawing. i want to see u say that to the court. lol The fact that there are a lot of bigots who don't understand the difference between drawings and reality and who will do acts of the most depraved evil to people who are hurting nobody to silence the demons in their own heads, does not make it any less true. They are drawings. Not children. This is a fact. |
logopolis said: Nillwas92 said: And some ppl in here is dumb, its just drawing. i want to see u say that to the court. lol The fact that there are a lot of bigots who don't understand the difference between drawings and reality and who will do acts of the most depraved evil to people who are hurting nobody to silence the demons in their own heads, does not make it any less true. They are drawings. Not children. This is a fact. but what he saying is correct in front of law.. sorry even you and me personaly disagree, that's what reality we live on... if you have power to change, then do it.... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Oh Jesus Christ...not again....PLEASE, NOT AGAIN!!! OP....do you know that Hentai are drawings? Do you know that drawings are not real? So....you're asking if drawings of fake humans with imaginary ages can be considered CP? Hopefully, you have your answer. |
Kuma said: but what he saying is correct in front of law.. sorry even you and me personaly disagree, that's what reality we live on... if you have power to change, then do it.... Law does not make anything true or false, it just defines who the state claims the right to hurt. (And it's different in different countries.) |
| I don't know but that loli from Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo must be like 16 and is hot as hell, like DAMN!! |
| You know it's because of this preconception that I find it better if people can just assume anime is for kids. People feel obligated to express their morality which is good but if it takes away my harmless entertainment, then I just want to disagree with those justice warriors. Asians are generally smaller than Western. Also, child or minors sexualization in Western shows are still present at the click of a tv remote controller. But, who are we to preach those kids to wear appropriate clothes when they are constantly exposed to hot and sexy artists. On topic, it's a fictional porn that you should keep it to yourself. For example, nobody would even care to know whether you are into torture, bondage, anal sex and whatnot. |
 I mean it’s a cartoon character. I think I’ll be okay. FBI come at me bro. |
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| I think it's completely absurd, even disgusting to put drawings on the same level as actual child porn victims. If Hentai was childporn, childporn would be a victimless crime. But it isn't, so stop the irrational bullshit. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Who's care with that. Just watching. |
The REAL reason OP made this thread... |
| Hold on, isn't the reason why actual child pornography is illegal because it harms the children involved in its making? If that's the case then lolicon isn't harming anyone, I believe. Also if lolicon = child porn then wouldn't watching action series/movies where people drop like flies be the modern equivalent of watching gladiatorial combat? |
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Kuma said: logopolis said: The fact that there are a lot of bigots who don't understand the difference between drawings and reality and who will do acts of the most depraved evil to people who are hurting nobody to silence the demons in their own heads, does not make it any less true. They are drawings. Not children. This is a fact. but what he saying is correct in front of law.. sorry even you and me personaly disagree, that's what reality we live on... if you have power to change, then do it.... There's the power of the caption which says that the age mentioned are only the age the characters look like and not their actual age. |
| Technically, No. Still; if people here actually watch this kind of stuff you should hang your heads in shame. I pray Chris Hamsen is awaiting you in your living rooms one day. |
TheDeadApostle said: Hold on, isn't the reason why actual child pornography is illegal because it harms the children involved in its making? In countries where it's only actual child pornography that's illegal, then yes. In countries where any sort of drawings are illegal, they no longer care about children, and it's all about hatred for sexual deviancy. In those countries, protecting children is the hollow excuse. |
| 13-17 year old aren't really children anyway, so no it's technically not child porn (blah blah blah autistic "but it's draaaaaaaaawn" shit). Even still, kinda creepy. Don't. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
TheDeadApostle said: Hold on, isn't the reason why actual child pornography is illegal because it harms the children involved in its making? If that's the case then lolicon isn't harming anyone, I believe. Also if lolicon = child porn then wouldn't watching action series/movies where people drop like flies be the modern equivalent of watching gladiatorial combat? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victimless_crime Sadly that is a thing, mostly in regards to drugs and sexuality. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| 2D or real, loli hentai and child porn is gross and a huge red flag |
logopolis said: Kuma said: but what he saying is correct in front of law.. sorry even you and me personaly disagree, that's what reality we live on... if you have power to change, then do it.... Law does not make anything true or false, it just defines who the state claims the right to hurt. (And it's different in different countries.) i never said it's right or wrong, but it's what people who made laws agreed upon and practiced... if you live in a country that already free from this backdrawn mind, then good for you, however, i wouldn't risk make people getting jail for it for encouraging what still illegal on their country... Hrybami said: Kuma said: but what he saying is correct in front of law.. sorry even you and me personaly disagree, that's what reality we live on... if you have power to change, then do it.... There's the power of the caption which says that the age mentioned are only the age the characters look like and not their actual age. excuse me? i don't understand... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| i am not fan of hentai whatsoever, and my answer Yes and no Yes, if you using your common sense or indentified These characters are below legal age No, it's just a fictional character draw as little girl for doing such a thing and even their VA aren't kid btw |
shirohaMar 15, 2018 8:59 PM
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Aslt said: Well, in Japan you can bang 13 years old girls so by their standards it's nothing. SlipperySloth said: Second of all, it’s legal age in Japan. it's blatant lies from misinterpretated fact.. http://goboiano.com/why-japanese-teenagers-can-get-arrested-for-dating/ https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/4tj7wp/debunking_the_myth_that_the_age_of_consent_in/ rorouni kenshin (samurai X) author got fined and almost jailed for owning several underaged LA porn... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
SlipperySloth said: Kuma said: it's blatant lies from misinterpretated fact.. http://goboiano.com/why-japanese-teenagers-can-get-arrested-for-dating/ https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/4tj7wp/debunking_the_myth_that_the_age_of_consent_in/ rorouni kenshin (samurai X) author got fined and almost jailed for owning several underaged LA porn... I wondered if I had been misinformed after seeing this so I did a little investigation. It looks like yes, the age of consent still actually is 13, but different prefectures within Japan can raise the age of consent for their locality. https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan it's already explained in the link i given above how 13 years was the basic law made in 1900's, and it will modified by prefectur which nobody in japan put it under 16... there is bunch of other law which make you jailed if you do anything to underaged which the underaged can be expanded to 20 years... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
SlipperySloth said: Kuma said: it's already explained in the link i given above how 13 years was the basic law made in 1900's, and it will modified by prefectur which nobody in japan put it under 16... there is bunch of other law which make you jailed if you do anything to underaged which the underaged can be expanded to 20 years... Kuma said: it's already explained in the link i given above how 13 years was the basic law made in 1900's, and it will modified by prefectur which nobody in japan put it under 16... there is bunch of other law which make you jailed if you do anything to underaged which the underaged can be expanded to 20 years... I don’t feel confident in the credibility of the sources you listed and feel like there’s a lot of gray legal area here that’s pretty subject to interpretation. There are too many conflicting viewpoints I’m finding online. I don’t particularly feel like spending hours diving down this rabbit hole while my time is so limited by external life forces so I’ll drop my age of consent point cause clearly I don’t have a full grasp on this topic and I don’t know if anyone really does. It’s not necessary to my argument anyway. I do appreciate you bringing this debate to the table though because there’s definitely an oversimplification of the law here and it’d be best not to spread misinformation. i already give example, samurai X author got charged becuase possession of child pornography... https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-21/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-goes-on-hiatus-due-to-creator-child-porn-charge/.124313 and he does guilty, tho only punished with fine.. https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-fined-for-child-pornography-pos-1823351711 even if you try being denial, that's simply how it works... |
KumaMar 15, 2018 10:55 PM
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| No, and anyone who thinks that it is, is delusional. |
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| If real kids, yes that is child porn. If not, no it doesn't qualify. Simple as that. Though yes the situation is dubious morally in general and there are longer discussions people will have. |
SlipperySloth said: Kuma said: i already give example, samurai X author got charged becuase possession of child pornography... https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-21/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-goes-on-hiatus-due-to-creator-child-porn-charge/.124313 and he does guilty, tho only punished with fine.. https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-fined-for-child-pornography-pos-1823351711 even if you try being denial, that's simply how it works... I’m not in denial, there’s just way too much gray area in these laws I’m discovering for that example to confirm everything 100% so I don’t feel confident taking any definitive position on what exactly the law is. Thus, I’m dropping my legal age point because I’m not fully educated on this topic. Too many subtle nuances in the laws that I don’t feel prepared to investigate yet as the law is not at all my area of expertise, I’m more of an art/literature person. i already give you a definitive case.... there is nothing gray in here... posession of real underaged pornography is againts the law even in japan... personally, i don't belive in drawn underaged = real life underaged... however lot of other countries don't... you must grateful japan is one of few country that actually do... |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
romagia said: Did you just steal my joke and think I wouldnt notice!?but officer, she's a 300 year old vampire |
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| No, legally it's not (depending). Morally, what the fuck is wrong with some of you? |
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