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Nov 27, 2020 7:59 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The Ikelos Familia is no more, with Ikelos being exiled out of Orario.
Next: "The Fool" Bell Cranel vs. the entire Orario (not just the Loki Familia alone), and into hiding with the Hestia Familia (who becomes the next target).

Looks like the issue with the Xenos and Ouranos isn't quite over yet...everyone's on high alert due to what happened in the 2 episodes prior. Even with Hermes's intervention for consultation, the stigma/downfall of the Little Rookie can't be understated enough.

Although Hermes has been working with Ouranos being background cover for most of the time, the cute goddess Hestia still cares for Bell like no other. Loki still has the grasp of Hestia HEH. And Bell earns his lap pillow from Syr for a moment of uncertainty when comfort is needed.

The ace in the sleeve for Hermes is Ikelos's Daedalus descendent's guide of Knossos, but getting people onboard with the ridiculous idea is just turning heads in confusion. "To save or not to save" is not the Adventurer's discretion, but the decision itself would bring waves of controversies, not to mention consequences arising.

Those close to the other Familias (in assistance of Hermes) are all worried for their brethren, but that's to be expected if Bell's at the center of reasoning (much less the Xenos), but all of them can't back out now. Regardless, the protection for Bell from the Hestia Familia are very supportive, no matter what his next steps may be: fight for the Xenos and keep them in FULL secrecy (while they lay low in Knossos), all while evading them from the public eye (lest getting into a massive bloodbath fight again).

The Loki Familia's in full swing of whatever the Xenos may do next (much less Bell Cranel and the Hestia Familia), and counteract it to the FULL. This will be a battle to the death, chessboard pieces in play to see who'd emerge on top. Playing fiddle for an ultimatium that would change the course of Orario's history.

Quite the expedition for the finale quarter.
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Nov 27, 2020 8:02 AM
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Ever since Bell saved Wiene, it seems his own situation has gotten more complex along with his party.

It would also seem that his relationship with Ais is still uneasy this season. Oh well, I guess that what happens by action has consequences.
Nov 27, 2020 8:03 AM
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I personally really like how Loki gets involved-this time, it was fun to talk about Bell, and It seemed, Bell was hated by the citizens, of course it was because of what he had done before
Nov 27, 2020 8:11 AM
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I like the scene of Bell and Shiru, after I searched about Shiru. I found something strange, I'm sure you already know.
Nov 27, 2020 8:48 AM
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Another cliffhanger and i wanted to see more this episode went by to fast.
Bell has a pretty bad reputations from the looks of and he will have a hard time regaining his name.
Let's hope it won't take him to long.

And let's hope the plan goes well.

It was also nice the see Lefiya again even if it was only for a short while.
Nov 27, 2020 8:53 AM
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Too bad that Bell is really hated in the town now, but he still has his familia so that's fine.
So they're really going to use Bell as a decoy... well the situation is still really tense.
Nov 27, 2020 9:03 AM
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Things are not looking too well for Bell. Everyone hates him now. I wonder how he will get his reputation back.

Having Finne as your enemy isn't good. He is too clever.

Nov 27, 2020 9:11 AM
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Pretty ok episode.

Even though most of it was all just set up for what's to come (with a decent amount of stuff skipped in between) it was entertaining as is. I like seeing how dedicated Hestia Familia is to helping out the Xenos return safely to the dungeon.

am looking forward to the next ep.
Nov 27, 2020 9:13 AM
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Build-up episode. I hope wee see more fighting next episodes because that´s what i think this season lacks the most. Also i love Hestia and Bell interactions.
Nov 27, 2020 9:19 AM

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the calm before the storm damn cannot wait for Bell vs Ais that opening is foreshadowing for a long time now

and will that Boss Minotaur get a new healed arm i wonder
Nov 27, 2020 9:21 AM

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Damn good buildup episode that ended on a cliffhanger. This one blew by. Loved the Bell and Shiru moment as well as all the planning that went into this operation.

This final quarter of the show is going to be awesome.
Nov 27, 2020 9:36 AM

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Still waiting for Bell vs Ais fight and after this episode looks like it will happen very soon.
Nov 27, 2020 9:37 AM

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One problem solved another one arises, Bell Cranel shall fight for his life.

We nearing the end of the season and it's about to get messy, I'm so excited for the final quarter!!

Good episode :)
Nov 27, 2020 9:37 AM
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In the race against time to saving the Xenos we have the Hestia and Hermes familia vs. Loki familia.

Only three episodes left.
Nov 27, 2020 9:43 AM
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Poor Bell getting looked down upon everyone, but he obviously knew the risks by saving Wiene. Poor Bell even got mad ignored by Ais :(

Seeing that coexistence is totally out of the picture, they are now trying to get the Xenos back into the dungeon. Having the Loki familia against you seems like one big pain in the ass, they already know what the Xenos and the Hestia familia are going to do. My man got a crazy big brain despite his small body lol.

Now onto my most anticipated fight this season: Ais vs Bell!!
Nov 27, 2020 9:58 AM
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Exile from Orario huh. Given the crimes that his familia committed its almost too good for him. Still the fact that the xeno's are still trapped within the city means that the ordeal is not quite over yet. Though Mord doesn't want to admit it Bell is someone that he does want to help having seen what Bells true nature is like. But given the fact that almost the entire town saw what Bell did to protect Wiene from Loki familia their hatred of him is to be expected. Still despite the attitude of the townspeople its nice to see Bell still has allies that he can rely on like Syr. Though revealing the existence of the xenos to their allies is a risk Bell and his friends really do need all the help that they can get in order to get the xenos to safety. The help that their allies provided sure look neat and will go a long way in negating the odds that they face. The Xeno's united distaste of Fel's plan to use Bell as a decoy though lol. Overall a relatively calm ep that served to show well the consequences that Bells actions have had in both revealing Ikelo's familia's actions as well as his defence of a monster. While its nice to see Bell recover thanks to Syr i believe that the next phase of the season will be hardest as they not only have to outfox Finn but also get everyone to safety without causing an uproar.
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Nov 27, 2020 10:18 AM

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It looks like we’re going to get the Bell vs Aiz fight next episode, I’m looking forward to it.
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Nov 27, 2020 11:29 AM
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Why does Finn look like he's 12? There's just such a massive dissonance between everyone talking him up as being so clever and then him looking like a child.
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Nov 27, 2020 11:37 AM

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Why does Finn look like he's 12? There's just such a massive dissonance between everyone talking him up as being so clever and then him looking like a child.


because he is from a race called Pallum and the people from this race are known for having small bodies
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Nov 27, 2020 11:48 AM
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Pallums are the Hobbits of Danmachi. For more examples there is Lily or the Gulliver brothers from Freya Familia.
Nov 27, 2020 11:52 AM

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Excellent eps. I started watching it and thought oh crap did I miss last weeks, and thanks to crunchys shit system it looked like I had missed an eps as it wasn't in orange. So after a few moments watching last week I knew I had watched it but thought oh well, build up hype. Im pretty glad I did the revisit as it helped make this episode even more poignant in its story. We need to get saving those monsters, but its not going to be easy. Really like the story going on behind the scenes almost with the gods and there actions to the current situation.

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Nov 27, 2020 11:58 AM
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Pallums are the Hobbits of Danmachi. For more examples there is Lily or the Gulliver brothers from Freya Familia.


Askaa said:
Farabeuf said:
Why does Finn look like he's 12? There's just such a massive dissonance between everyone talking him up as being so clever and then him looking like a child.


because he is from a race called Pallum and the people from this race are known for having small bodies



Oh, that makes sense. I just thought it was some random entitled chibi thing. Thanks for the background info.
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Nov 27, 2020 12:41 PM

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Poor Bell. I'm glad that Ikelos has been given his marching orders and is banished from Orario, but because of that, the citizens have directed their anger on Bell.

Thankfully, he still has his friends, both within the Hestia Familia and outside of it, to back him up during his woes right now. Syr, the sweetheart that she is, did her best to cheer him up with some good words of wisdom and, as an added bonus, placed Bell's head on her lap. Lucky boy! XD

Another cute moment was when Bell communicated through Fels' item, which made Wiene so happy that she couldn't stop calling out Bell's name and how she wanted to see him again. =3

The only problem with the plan that Bell's group have, even with the assistance from Hermes, is the Loki Familia, namely the tactician genius himself, Finn. Having Bell as a decoy was the right call to make, but its inevitable that in order to get the Xenos through one of the doors safely, they'll have to fight someone from the Loki Familia.

Things are going to be rather chaotic in the next episode. Sooner or later, Bell and Ais will have to fight against each other, and that's has me hyped up! =)
Nov 27, 2020 12:42 PM

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So why does Finn have this obsession to bring glory to his people? Who is he really? Why so clever, Braver?
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Preparations for battle are set, the battle between "The Fool" and the city of Orario is about to begin. It sucks that Bell was made a scapegoat for the whole thing even after Ikelos has been exiled and his familia disbanded. I guess it does make sense from the townspeople's perspective, Bell sided with the enemy, the monsters instead of the town. Loki Familia has already figured out their plan of making Bell the sacrificial pawn with the help of Finn.
Nov 27, 2020 12:57 PM

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As expected, Bell and the rest of his familia are targets of harassment from everyone else. Thankfully, that isn't enough to shake their commitment to helping the Xenos. Nice setup for the final stretch of the season.
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Ikelos being exiled is no surprise there, neither is all the criticism the Hestia familia is getting right now, but things are far from over. Next operation is about to start, getting the Xenos back into the dungeon. Can't wait to see more. Bell & Xenos (and maybe more?) vs Loki familia. Gonna be exciting!
Nov 27, 2020 2:36 PM
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Decent episode I guess, they rushed small scenes here and there, nothing much, but details slowly build and add to it...

I guess the studios is putting more focus on the last episode, I hope so.

This episode reveals big gap between the anime and the LN, more than ever.
Lack of any kind of tension, this is why I will keep saying till the end, those interested should go read this arc in the LN.

You would be surprised how much you are missing, I was almost yawning the first half, sure you have people bashing him now, but really, a couple of mean looks and insults, when reading on the source material, you feel how bad the situation has gotten, it is a dire situation, you really feel the consequences of his actions, unlike here.

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In the race against time to saving the Xenos we have the Hestia and Hermes familia vs. Loki familia.

Only three episodes left.

I hope they go for 13 episodes though, this last volume deserves it, but if they keep rushing smaller scenes and leaving out a few details, more 3 episodes should be enough.


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So why does Finn have this obsession to bring glory to his people? Who is he really? Why so clever, Braver?

You cant be given a half-assed explanation, read on the link bellow if you are interested:

https://danmachi.fandom.com/wiki/Finn_Deimne
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Ikelos being exiled is no surprise there, neither is all the criticism the Hestia familia is getting right now, but things are far from over. Next operation is about to start, getting the Xenos back into the dungeon. Can't wait to see more. Bell & Xenos (and maybe more?) vs Loki familia. Gonna be exciting!


When anime bad guys get banished like that they always come back later in the series and cause more drama. They shoulda stabbed the shit out of him and sent him to join Ishtar in Heaven.
Nov 27, 2020 3:41 PM

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Nice build up episode. Ikelos got off easy. lol

I usually like Finn but he really comes off as a super selfish asshole in this season. "but muh monster kill must happen!"
Nov 27, 2020 4:37 PM
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Why is Bell still simping for Ais ?? He should be over her after these current chain of events. Move on,
Nov 27, 2020 6:07 PM

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Good episode. Even though it was supposed to be build up, they did skip some important stuff from the LN which in my opinion, was important to understand it better.
That aside, it was a really good episode. Really hyped for the next one!
Btw: Wiene is sooooo adorable!!!

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Nov 27, 2020 6:30 PM

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The look Ais gave Bell in the street...that shit was PIERCING! God damn. The tension was heavy!

I am excited for next week!
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Nov 27, 2020 6:39 PM

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Was the last episode end of the volume? Is it even possible to adapt the next one in just four episodes I wonder? I smell some upcoming cliffhanger...

Anyway, the scene with Syr was really nice, although bit short (and without prior events in Daidalos street being shown in the anime kinda disconnected). Also, I get why Ais but haven't realized whole Loki familia is full of people who lost their homes and relatives after attacks of monsters, be it Finn or Bete, no wonder they wouldn't want to negotiate.

Nice detail putting Anakitty next to Raul in one scene, great fallback to the current winter event in the game.

All-in-all I like how everyone is getting involved, just about every important character of the franchise was in this episode. This was really the calm before the storm.

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Why does Finn look like he's 12? There's just such a massive dissonance between everyone talking him up as being so clever and then him looking like a child.

He is Pallum (like Lili). He's actually 42 years old so.. (one of his traits is he stopped aging at some point so there is also that)
Nov 27, 2020 6:44 PM
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Yea, its obviously happening. The round two for Bell-kun to save Xenos-tachi to their own place, Dungeon. A symbolic target for their malice, Uranus? Damn, what a cruel words you had there. But, as knowing how human was so fragile against an uncertainty. No matter how good Xenos were in the view of Bell, they just simply just judged them as monster. No need such a stupid gamble, by retold an absolute rejection. You just did what you thing was right, Bell, everyone you believed must be in your side to cooperate with you, no matter the shit happened. Lets escort them out from those horrible underground place, and back to Knossos! However, this time, Bell-kun was not alone. Hermes and his childrens ready to help from behind, together with the rest of Hestia family. Maybe some of Hestia old friend will help too? Well, i say again! Lets begin the round two as i mentioned before. But currently its against Loki's selfish greedy childrens that become a solid burden, for the sake of Wiene and the rest of Xenos-tachi freedom! That little dragon girl smile must be protecc!
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The look Ais gave Bell in the street...that shit was PIERCING! God damn. The tension was heavy!

I am excited for next week!


honestly i still don't see what people see in Ai's she kinda either fake airhead (which toradora had a thing to say about those. let me tell you.)



also if we see Bell vs Ai's all i got to say is

Bell Kar En Tuk

honestly loki familia has been needing a serving of humble pie since season 1.
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shit i'm kinda hyped up now, they did that good

how did Loki familia find out about the knossos entrances tho? weren't those like ultra secret or some shit? did i missed something?
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SoraSenpai said:
The look Ais gave Bell in the street...that shit was PIERCING! God damn. The tension was heavy!

I am excited for next week!


honestly i still don't see what people see in Ai's she kinda either fake airhead (which toradora had a thing to say about those. let me tell you.)



also if we see Bell vs Ai's all i got to say is

Bell Kar En Tuk

honestly loki familia has been needing a serving of humble pie since season 1.


She's Blonde, Beautiful and a badass. I mean she's antisocial AF and if that plays a part in her being an Airhead then yeah she is an airhead.
But i believe every character in this anime has their flaws and can be looked at as "I don't see what people see in [insert character here] " imo
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The game is afoot with Bel as decoy
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Great episode, for those that haven't watched sword oratoria you should. Since, it establishes the motivations of the Loki Familia children and little detail about them and why they are like this as we see now in the episode. Believe it or not though, it is nice to see Lefiya.

We now see Bell being hated by everyone, it's good to see Syr supporting Bell and giving him encouragement. Your familia gotchu Bell, that scene with the Hestia familia deciding to support Bell almost made me cry that was great, Hestia familia is awesome.

Really looking forward to the next episode, we might get that Ais vs Bell fight let's go.
Nov 27, 2020 8:56 PM

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So basically the next episode is Loki Familia vs everyone who will protect Xenos, damn! For sure it will be epic!

+1 girl that declared herself to Bell, the harem is growing so much xD

Finn vs Bell, that will be tough, very tough, i do wonder how they will save the Xenos.
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Hestia vs Loki familia next week, can't wait! (((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))

Nov 27, 2020 9:51 PM

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Wow, this season keeps getting better and better.
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I can't imagine that the time will come. That my favorite characters from Sword Oratoria will be the villains in DanMachi 3's last arc...I am so worried.

These last three episodes will be really heavy. Bell Cranel is pretty much considered a traitor along with the Familia. And Ais-san with the Loki Familia are trying to search for the Xenos. It's nice to see Wiene back to normal again, her smile when Bell called is BLISS. Also we got a rare but worth it scene from Syr and Bell!

Hermes and other allied familias will help in the operation to escort Xenos back into the Dungeon. But our Loki Familia ain't letting that and it seems they outsmarted them already. It's going to be tough but in the eyes of Orario, our MC Bell will be the villain. The gather up before the storm which will be next week.
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bell will save monsters and everyone will accept all of the monsters at the end
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I just hope nothing bad happens to Wiene...i mean come-on!! she came back to life!!! that's already a godly taboo!
Looks like Bell being a decoy is already information leaked...i wonder what kind of counter-action plan they have if that's the case...
5/5.


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I like the setup of multiple parties trying to strategize to have the max chances of winning, therefore winning is decided by not only by the plot, but also whenever the lack of manpower and any advantage whatsoever against Loki familia will ultimately lead our protagonist group to failure or epic win. This final fight in the season is about good vs evil, but idealogical crash between conservatives vs progressive, a true civil war. I like when animes get better war technology as story and conflict progresses, as seen with Code Geass, just like any RTS game, getting the best units is not all that will determine your victory. Effective use of abilities and ground units is key to victory, so let's prepare for the epic battle between people we love and hate to see fighting each other. Season 2 was really trash, but this...this is exciting!
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Idek why this season keeps dropping in rating when it's been consistently good so far
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Til now I still don't know who the blonde shota is
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