| From what we already know, in this decade we have had some animes that will remain in our hearts with the epics that were. But there is a problem, every season is filled with more and more anime clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy, and that I do not count on the bad adaptations. Seeing for the future, next year they release some animes that are seen to be a surprise, but one never knows what can happen. What is your opinion? |
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| Vinland Saga i heard is as good as Attack on Titan but lets see since i never read its manga |
| I'm John Titor and I come from the future... IT WON'T. |
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| 'Decade' is a pretty long term so I'd predict that there will be at least half a dozen epic ones amongst the sea of clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy. Even if there isn't something innovative, the industry will make a remake of an old epic so it'll be available for new viewers who got turned off of bad artwork/animation. |
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| Considering you're only 16 OP, you haven't lived through other eras of anime and haven't seen the many different seasons growing up, i don't think your worries are that justified. There will of course be epic anime in the 2020 decade, and like ANY medium in ANY era, epic is only epic because the majority isn't. |
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| If you look back at older seasons most of the shows were bad or mediocre. That's always been a thing and it doesn't stop true masterpieces from being made. Of course there's going to be some epics in the future. For next year Vinland Saga and The Promised Neverland already look very promising with their highly praised source material. |
Huntik said: deg said: Vinland Saga i heard is as good as Attack on Titan but lets see since i never read its manga I've read a couple chapters of Vinlad Saga and it's Great. It's really well done. If the studio don't rush it will definetely would be great anime and likable to the majority. good to hear since im hearing a lot of praise on its manga |
| The next decade it's going to remain on the same level of epicness, but with more 3D and CGI. |
| I definitely think the industry will continue to be oversaturated with shit... But we are getting some great materials adapted in the coming few years... So I feel as if we will have an industry that will be comprised mostly of shit with a couple diamonds amongst the trash each season... As the industry increases in value, the better adaptation will receive greater care and hopefully create more near perfect, well developed anime... The manga industry is doing better in the sense of better stuff to read simply because so many exist, and require near no money to produce, but the anime industry seems to wait a while before picking up the note worthy series that could actually be great and successful... Or they do pick them up and create complete shit (Berserk) But I think the main edge for the industry will be continual sequels of well adapted, popular series... They seem to be taking the top materials and just continually adapting rather than picking up multiple series... So I think we're gonna be seeing tons of sequels with longer wait periods in between the creation of new "diamond" anime |
| Let us see, Vinland Saga, Pluto, a possibility of adapting Jojo Part 7, Dorohedoro, I'd say there is a few. |
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Astacar5252 said: From what we already know, in this decade we have had some animes that will remain in our hearts with the epics that were. But there is a problem, every season is filled with more and more anime clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy, and that I do not count on the bad adaptations. Seeing for the future, next year they release some animes that are seen to be a surprise, but one never knows what can happen. What is your opinion? You say there is a problem, but then go on to list good things. So where's the problem? How you define epic may not be the same as the next person. One man's epic is another man's average. Once you establish parameters of what is "epic", then it can be determined how many (if any) we've had so far this decade, and we can estimate the likelihood of future ones. |
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| It will if they are going to adapt Voynich Hotel and Takemitsu Zamurai. |
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| If the right manga get adapted, then we could get some awesome stuff. |
| We have epic stuff. Seasonal watch and split seasons is the only reason people aren't putting them on pedestals. |
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| Maybe if they adapt HakoMari, Sagrada got an adaptation and it was boring for the regular weeb. HakoMari would be so cool. |
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| We're getting so many anime each season, great stuff is bound to be there as well. |
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| honestly, i just crave for some truly epic anime. but i feel like people have different definitions of being epic. for example, to me something like Kill la Kill or TTGL are epic af. everything about them just screams EPIC. i really hope to see something on the same level, otherwise it'll be really disappointing |
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| Maybe if they make another season of Zombieland Saga in 2020 |
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| To me, the question sounds totally absurd. It's probably because I'm enjoying a lot of anime,even this season, there's so much worth watching. |
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| Putting stories aside...animation will definitely get better. We'll be seeing 4k animation most likely. |
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Astacar5252 said: But there is a problem, every season is filled with more and more anime clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy, and that I do not count on the bad adaptations. stop talking bullshit pls. You're not even old enough to be able to judge how anime output changed over the years. As someone who has watched 20-30 titles every single season since the beginning of simulcasting I can tell you you're full of shit and none of this is even remotely true. And als 'unncessary comedy' is about as subjective as it gets. You're probably just starting to grow out of your anime phase and now you try to blame it on some kind of 'decline' like thousands of others casuals before you who couldn't admit to themselves that anime was just a phase for them. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| i remember a time when anime made good shows without clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy such as Ken En Ken ;_; |
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romagia said: i remember a time when anime made good shows without clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy such as Ken En Ken ;_; wow you must be super old to have such ancient memories |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Pullman said: not very old, i am just an ordinary time travelerromagia said: i remember a time when anime made good shows without clitche, moe, fanservice, ecchi and unnecessary comedy such as Ken En Ken ;_; wow you must be super old to have such ancient memories |
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| Slice of life will still be the most reliable source of quality, and maybe we can have a few non-SOL things that are worth. |
| Short answer, no. Long answer...this is a topic that’s been discussed for more than a decade and there are still epic anime that come out either every year or every few years. I think what everyone seems to do is overreact to trends and say “this is destroying the industry.” Yes, moe schlock is watering down the overall quality of anime as a whole, but that’s just the trend right now. Trends change drastically when it comes to anime viewership. 15-20 years ago, all the craze was around mecha and space opera themed anime. That too, has slowly died about. Around the same time, samurai/Edo period anime were extremely popular as well. Those two themes aren’t nearly as popular now. Everything is based completely on the market. Right now, for whatever rhyme or reason, moe is really popular in Japan, but in due time, the trend will die because, like anything else, it’s a fad that will die and evolve with the generation. Still, despite all of this, there are still epic anime coming out this decade. Maybe not to the extend like the 2000s, but I think think of a handful of epic anime that have come out and will continue to come out. |
Toucanbird said: Short answer, no. Long answer...this is a topic that’s been discussed for more than a decade and there are still epic anime that come out either every year or every few years. I think what everyone seems to do is overreact to trends and say “this is destroying the industry.” Yes, moe schlock is watering down the overall quality of anime as a whole, but that’s just the trend right now. Trends change drastically when it comes to anime viewership. 15-20 years ago, all the craze was around mecha and space opera themed anime. That too, has slowly died about. Around the same time, samurai/Edo period anime were extremely popular as well. Those two themes aren’t nearly as popular now. Nitpicking and all, but looking through your ratings I wouldn't consider you to have much of a problem with moe, in fact it seems quite the contrary. |
jal90 said: Toucanbird said: Short answer, no. Long answer...this is a topic that’s been discussed for more than a decade and there are still epic anime that come out either every year or every few years. I think what everyone seems to do is overreact to trends and say “this is destroying the industry.” Yes, moe schlock is watering down the overall quality of anime as a whole, but that’s just the trend right now. Trends change drastically when it comes to anime viewership. 15-20 years ago, all the craze was around mecha and space opera themed anime. That too, has slowly died about. Around the same time, samurai/Edo period anime were extremely popular as well. Those two themes aren’t nearly as popular now. Nitpicking and all, but looking through your ratings I wouldn't consider you to have much of a problem with moe, in fact it seems quite the contrary. Like anything on this Earth, you can find some good things amongst the bad. The same is true for moe anime. There are some good and some bad. Where my list is concerned, you’ll probably notice that a good chunk of the moe that get good ratings are produced primarily by P.A. Works or Kyoto Animation. Some studios do a very good job with moe while a majority suck at it. My biggest beef with the industry is that it is a genre/trope that is overrsaturating the market. There isn’t a huge variety of series coming out right now, which I find disappointing. |
Toucanbird said: jal90 said: Nitpicking and all, but looking through your ratings I wouldn't consider you to have much of a problem with moe, in fact it seems quite the contrary. Like anything on this Earth, you can find some good things amongst the bad. The same is true for moe anime. There are some good and some bad. Where my list is concerned, you’ll probably notice that a good chunk of the moe that get good ratings are produced primarily by P.A. Works or Kyoto Animation. Some studios do a very good job with moe while a majority suck at it. My biggest beef with the industry is that it is a genre/trope that is overrsaturating the market. There isn’t a huge variety of series coming out right now, which I find disappointing. I mean, when I'm saying this is because MOST of the moe you've watched has good to great ratings. So maybe you are talking about stuff you have avoided for whatever reason or that is not on your list? I think I get your point on the saturation though (not that I really agree but that's my tastes and bias), but I'm saying this mainly because for some reason and specially when moe is criticized as some sort of cause of downfall for the industry by someone I'm surprised to see that their ratings to most moe stuff they've watched are actually very high, sometimes (in your case with Key works, since you are quite into romance dramas) higher than mine xD |
jal90Nov 27, 2018 2:20 PM
Pullman said: stop talking bullshit pls. You're not even old enough to be able to judge how anime output changed over the years. As someone who has watched 20-30 titles every single season since the beginning of simulcasting I can tell you you're full of shit and none of this is even remotely true. And als 'unncessary comedy' is about as subjective as it gets. You're probably just starting to grow out of your anime phase and now you try to blame it on some kind of 'decline' like thousands of others casuals before you who couldn't admit to themselves that anime was just a phase for them. What I try to understand is that as the production of anime is increasing, there are animes that in the first episodes make it seem interesting and then they add more and more content that in the end we have an overloaded product, I do not say the genre comedy "unnecessary" is the problem, but the problem is that they simply do not know how to squeeze all the juice of this, and remain satisfied with the final material and end up concentrating only on marketing. |
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| I think that once or twice a year some really good series comes out that blow the others out of the water. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| Yes of course. There's already going to be a ton of epic anime in the upcoming seasons. Such as Mob Psycho 100 season 2, The Promised Never land and Vinland Saga. |
| No, obviously 31st December 2019 will mark the end of quality anime. Everything after that will be either mediocre at best or just filled with moe trash and fanservice. |
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| Maybe, there could be some few good ones, a lot of averages and a ton of trash. |
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| You could say I'm too positive and hopeful but I think there are always something good to watch for in every year. I wont deny that there some are not quite good as well. You need to take some misses and patience to find one. So everytime I came across that one anime that I find good and enjoyable, I feel very gratified. |
| No. Anime will die. WW3 will start as a result. Luckily, it's a non-nuclear war. Trust me. My friend's uncle works for NA... The Space Force. |
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| As long as there are more epic manga on going, I don't have to worry about it. |
| I’m sure there’ll be aplenty, just like this decade and all the previous ones before this. A decade is a really long time, after all! Besides, in almost every single year, we’re having an epic show, aren’t we? |
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| I'm one to think that moe, waifus and comedy are domains in which anime has something to offer that classic live action cannot. Maybe it's just as much anime perfecting its craft than a trend. |
| This is Such a subjective question, but I'll say from my perspective there's gonna be stuff that'll keep me into anime at least. |
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| Naaah, people are into cheesy drama nowadays. |
| Ofc there'll be.That anime is called Vinland Saga |
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