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May 26, 2018 8:07 AM
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I'm going to compare the top 5 rated anime NOT counting sequels/spinoffs/remakes on mal of each season of 1990 and 2017:

1990:



2017:


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May 26, 2018 8:14 AM
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Well I think the main problem here is that MAL didn't exist in 1990 , so those ratings don't do justice to average series like those as new fans tend to underrate old series because of the animation/art style , maybe a better take would be to compare the best rated series from the each decade (90s and 10s) so that you can see a bit fairer comparison.

May 26, 2018 8:15 AM
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The proof is called Evangelion which translates as the best anime ever created

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May 26, 2018 8:18 AM
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First of all, scores are biased. They are based on opinions, so scores don't equal facts.

Secondly, you can't prove anime from one decade is better than the other decade, because taste is subjective.

In my opinion, old and new anime are equally good shrugs. Do whatever you want with that.


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May 26, 2018 8:18 AM
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For older series, use the wayback machine to look at scores. They are more accurate when it comes to general reception of that time period.
May 26, 2018 8:21 AM
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old anime was never better
but that doesnt mean that this new one is ways ahead
May 26, 2018 8:26 AM
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Why are you comparing scores? Obviously, the older anime are going to have lower ratings.
May 26, 2018 8:29 AM
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Just a tip,if you want to make a better comparison then include OVA's too. In terms of quantity 2017 is far superior,at least regarding the TV shows. And tbh,most TV stuff from 1990 looks mediocre at best.

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May 26, 2018 8:30 AM
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Lol, who told you that old anime are better than new ones? I haven't heard anyone say that old ones are better than the new ones.
May 26, 2018 8:34 AM

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What the guys above have stated, comparing ratings directly makes no sense.

But there's also the fact that 1990 was a pretty weak year (a bit less if you consider some that started airing the prior year and still were airing). 1990-1994 is considered a dark period in anime for a reason, production decreased, and the overall morale was bad due to the collapse of the Japanese asset price bubble.
May 26, 2018 8:34 AM

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Look at the massive difference in votes.

Exkaiser - 191
Sweet Mint - 130
Kabuto - 228
Pygmalio - 268

Made in Abyss - 172k
Re:Creators - 76k
Maid Dragon - 200k
Girls' Last Tour - 39k

Scores are not comparable at all.
May 26, 2018 8:34 AM

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Why not add a conclusion at the end of the post, so that I can criticize understand your point better...
May 26, 2018 8:35 AM
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Older anime’s will always be better because of how much more original it was and how the animation was, these days it’s just filled with cgi animation and boring characters with no development
May 26, 2018 8:36 AM

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I have no idea what you seek to achieve from this. There is no objective metric to PROVE that old anime was better. Neither is there any way to PROVE new anime is better.
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May 26, 2018 8:37 AM

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Lol 1990 LoL

1 barely any person here watch those anime
So their scores ain't accurate

Lets take 2006
Winter:
Major s2 :8.36
ergo proxy: 7.99
Hanbun no tsuki:7.72

Spring:
gintama:9.01
Nana:8.50
Ohhc:8.33
Aria the animation:8.26
Black lagoun:8.13
School rumble:8.11
Higurashi:8.10
Xxxholic:8.08
Saiunkoku:8.04
Haruhi suzumiya:7.99

Fall:
Code gueass:8.79
Death note:8.67
Hitman reborn:8.30
Shijou saykyu:8.22
D gray man:8.15
Kanon 2006:8.10
Hell girl:8.04
Ghost hunt:7.92

Summer :
Nhk:8.38
Hashimitsu clover 2:8.33
Zero no tsukaima:7.54


This thread is just stupid and btw everything i listed doesn't count as an answear to the title of the thread neither does ur post but if u consider that logic to be an answear then u were clearly wrong
And 2006 anime are considered old anime (12 years)


Edit :i wanna see how many time u will edit this thread until it gets less retarded like u did to that other retarded thread
May 26, 2018 8:38 AM

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KreatorX said:
I have no idea what you seek to achieve from this. There is no objective metric to PROVE that old anime was better. Neither is there any way to PROVE new anime is better.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1731006

He made that thread above a few days ago. He might want to get in "Top Popular Threads" again. Kinda weird how both seem to contradict each other but that's what you get from these people.
May 26, 2018 8:39 AM

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Akerakai said:
Lol 1990 LoL

1 barely any person here watch those anime
So their scores ain't accurate

Lets take 2006
Winter:
Major s2 :8.36
ergo proxy: 7.99
Hanbun no tsuki:7.72

Spring:
gintama:9.01
Nana:8.50
Ohhc:8.33
Aria the animation:8.26
Black lagoun:8.13
School rumble:8.11
Higurashi:8.10
Xxxholic:8.08
Saiunkoku:8.04
Haruhi suzumiya:7.99

Fall:
Code gueass:8.79
Death note:8.67
Hitman reborn:8.30
Shijou saykyu:8.22
D gray man:8.15
Kanon 2006:8.10
Hell girl:8.04
Ghost hunt:7.92

Summer :
Nhk:8.38
Hashimitsu clover 2:8.33
Zero no tsukaima:7.54


This thread is just stupid and btw everything i listed doesn't count as an answear to the thread neither does ur post but if u consider that logic to be an answear then u were clearly wrong
And 2006 anime are considered old anime (12 years)


Maybe by you, but I'd not consider anything post 2000 as 'old'. They are using the modern animation techniques and the modern buisness model already for the most part after 2000.
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May 26, 2018 8:40 AM

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Nobody can prove that old anime is better or worse becuse thats subjective.
And ofc the older shows have lower scores becuse compared to today's shows most look rather ugly so they often automatically get a lower rating. And newer anime has a huge advantage in quantity so the chance that one of these shows becomes popular and gets a high rating is much higher.
May 26, 2018 8:42 AM

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May 26, 2018 8:43 AM

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You really must get a hard on from making pointless threads don't you?
May 26, 2018 8:44 AM

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Sure thing: https://graph.anime.plus/Bfolls/favorites,anime
There that proves that I have so far preferred old (2010 and before) anime, and since taste is subjective, that's all the proof I need
May 26, 2018 8:45 AM
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1990 sounds bigger than 2017 so must be better
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May 26, 2018 8:49 AM

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@Akerakai his thread isn't stupid, rather it's your post. You didn't really make any decent point, just typed a bunch of scores. And 2006 anime aren't old...
May 26, 2018 8:53 AM

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KatsutoSaki said:
@Akerakai his thread isn't stupid, rather it's your post. You didn't really make any decent point, just typed a bunch of scores. And 2006 anime aren't old...

yes they r old
They are more than a decade old and pretty sure when people says old anime are better they usually refer to this era of anime and what came before it

I consider new anime to be any anime that came from 2010 and after

Ima say it again this thread is retarded


And lol if u consider my post to be stupid cause i only typed a bunch of scores than the thread is stupid for the same reason if we follow ur logic
May 26, 2018 8:56 AM

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KatsutoSaki said:
@Akerakai his thread isn't stupid, rather it's your post. You didn't really make any decent point, just typed a bunch of scores. And 2006 anime aren't old...
in other words, the exact same thing as OP
May 26, 2018 9:09 AM

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I can prove that in my opinion, old Anime is better.

But, my opinion means nothing to others, who have different opinions than I.

May 26, 2018 9:12 AM

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What is with this sudden "old anime are bad and newer anime are obviously better" bandwgon? It is so dam stupid. I get hearing "back in old days, things were gooder" is annoying, but aggressively trying to apply the opposites when to be honest, neither side is all that wrong or right is equally, if not more aggravating.

Given that your previous thread was about "why gamble with new stuff when you can rely on classics to do a good job" -despite the fact that that is also a gamble in and of itself- I can't help but wonder if you're fickle, if you're trying to play devil's advocate, or what.

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May 26, 2018 9:13 AM

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mal scores are irrelevant, op.....

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May 26, 2018 9:15 AM

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simple, it can't be proven.. no matter how people tried to convince you, you won't trust it unless you believed it yourself
May 26, 2018 9:17 AM

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Old anime have fewer voters and they have lower rating systems so their scores are technically higher than modern ones. Not that it means anything since quality of anime is subjective. All modern anime are CGI while old anime were hand animated so that's something old anime have going for them.
May 26, 2018 9:22 AM

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It is better to those who prefer it over modern anime.
May 26, 2018 9:28 AM

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Prove to who exactly? If you've established that older anime isn't better than newer ones, then that's your mindset and it'd be difficult to change it

And it also depends on what is considered to be 'old' anime. You listed shows from 1990 but who's to say shows that aired in 98' (Cowboy Bepop) or 2000 (Hajime no Ippo) are not old?
May 26, 2018 9:37 AM

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I really respect your willingness to throw yourself headfirst into these not even nearly thought out discussions.
May 26, 2018 9:38 AM

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"Can we prove that something entirely subjective is in fact objectively true?"

Yeah, okay buddy. Try something fresh and original.
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May 26, 2018 9:47 AM

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Holy guacamole
you posted the same thread twice with absolutely no shame, i am absolutely dissapointed in every single way
there is no real way to proof one of them being superior, there are millions that love the old stuff, millions that love the new stuff and even more that like both
just
stop this
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May 26, 2018 10:09 AM

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old scores will always be inaccurate since the anime watchers that watched those shows during those airing times have no way to show their 10/10 ratings unless they are like 30-40+ and this age group, while it does exist, represent a small percentage.
also you messed up using mal scores. old anime has an unspoken rule of /9 instead of /10 to at least try to combat this. Robin Hood no Daibouken 7.22 for example would be 7.22/9 which gives it a score of 8.02. still inaccurate and probably just a meme in clubs but not much else we can do
May 26, 2018 10:59 AM

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old anime looks... old... therefore... it sucks...

May 26, 2018 11:04 AM

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Scores are so completely useless when talking about older anime, even 10 year old anime, that this whole thread is a fucking joke. Hell, this thread is a joke by mentioning scores at all.
May 26, 2018 1:14 PM
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IdleSolution said:
old anime looks... old... therefore... it sucks...


How would you know? What old anime have you even watched, or are you basing that on your vast Youtube trailer-watching experience?

Fuck me...
May 26, 2018 1:23 PM

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im sorry but Narara Superboard completely trumps anything released in 2017
May 26, 2018 1:23 PM

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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
IdleSolution said:
old anime looks... old... therefore... it sucks...


How would you know? What old anime have you even watched, or are you basing that on your vast Youtube trailer-watching experience?

Fuck me...


Affinity -2% your taste sucks therefore you are not worthy of proper answer

May 26, 2018 1:28 PM
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IdleSolution said:
Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:


How would you know? What old anime have you even watched, or are you basing that on your vast Youtube trailer-watching experience?

Fuck me...


Affinity -2% your taste sucks therefore you are not worthy of proper answer


At least my taste is built on a proper foundation. You've discarded literally thousands of titles because "old things look old."

Yeah, and people die if they are killed. Way to keep an open mind.
May 26, 2018 1:30 PM

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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
IdleSolution said:


Affinity -2% your taste sucks therefore you are not worthy of proper answer


At least my taste is built on a proper foundation. You've discarded literally thousands of titles because "old things look old."

Yeah, and people die if they are killed. Way to keep an open mind.


doesnt change the fact that old animes look like made in 90s or, hell, 80s!

May 26, 2018 1:32 PM

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It's impossible to prove something subjective, I'm afraid.
May 26, 2018 1:36 PM

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Someone can prove old anime is better than new anime as much as he can also prove than blue is a better color than red.

Also, comparing the overall scores as a way to attempt to do this is pretty inaccurate, because the audience that rates old shows (pre-2000) is very different to the one that rates the new ones (post-2000, especially post-2005); older people tend to not be so generous with the scores they give and make full use of the 10 point scale rather than only using 7+ as opposed to younger people, who mostly only watch post-2005 stuff.

May 26, 2018 1:40 PM

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Whenever this anime was created (https://myanimelist.net/anime/33274/Onara_Gorou), it is better than any anime of any time period.
May 26, 2018 1:58 PM

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No one can "prove" that old/new anime is better or worse, either way.

One can point to popularity stats though, and speak of whether something is more or less popular. That's the closest you can do.

FWIW, older shows on MAL tend to have lower scores, as a general rule.
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May 26, 2018 2:04 PM

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Oh boy. The old vs new meta.

You can't prove an opinion to someone who thinks the opposite of you.

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May 26, 2018 2:06 PM

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I mean I'm not going to say which is better because I personally prefer modern series. But scores are not a good measure. Especially since you're just using two arbitrary years for comparison and someone could easily argue that since some of those seasons from 1990 have shows that were never fully translated or were only translated recently it's barely a fair comparison.
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