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Why aren't there any more gory shows?
I feel like the amount of gore from the 90s-00s is as much as the amount of nudity in today's Anime.

Is it illegal to make shows like Elfen Lied now? Well there is a fairly new Anime that is gory and that is Corpse Party but it's only an OVA and not released for television.

WHAT HAPPENED?
 
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Isn't there an anime from the previous season that has gore? Dunno. Probably just a change in business.

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Its not the 2edgy4itsowngood 1990s anymore.
 
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Psychedelios said:
Why aren't there any more gory shows?
I feel like the amount of gore from the 90s-00s is as much as the amount of nudity in today's Anime.

Is it illegal to make shows like Elfen Lied now? Well there is a fairly new Anime that is gory and that is Corpse Party but it's only an OVA and not released for television.

WHAT HAPPENED?


It's hard to take this seriously considering the prominence of anime like Another, Mirai Nikki, Blood C, Tokyo Ghoul, etc over the last few years.
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Eh, nowadays, people just wanna watch CGDCT.




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I'm too lazy to look up any sources but Japanese TV has become stricter recently with showing gore. It could be related to real life violence in Japan (for example, what happened with the ending of School Days) or some other reason but anime nowadays that has gore is heavily censored for TV broadcasts.
The only recent example I can think of is Tokyo Ghoul. While it was airing, the blood was turned black for most scenes or they would just black out a majority of the picture. Because of that it kind of makes sense that not as many are being made for TV. But like the above poster pointed out, few are still being made..
 
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i dont think it was that many gore in 90-00..
 
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romagia said:
i dont think it was that many gore in 90-00..

Cyber punk is usually gory IMO. And maybe i should include late 80s as well
 
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Inuyashiki had a fair amount of gore.
 
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Johan said:
Psychedelios said:
Why aren't there any more gory shows?
I feel like the amount of gore from the 90s-00s is as much as the amount of nudity in today's Anime.

Is it illegal to make shows like Elfen Lied now? Well there is a fairly new Anime that is gory and that is Corpse Party but it's only an OVA and not released for television.

WHAT HAPPENED?


It's hard to take this seriously considering the prominence of anime like Another, Mirai Nikki, Blood C, Tokyo Ghoul, etc over the last few years.


Those are extremely few.
King's Game from last year was barely gory to me.
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Watch Devilman crybaby from this season it's done! It has tons and tons of gore, gore, gore porn and more gore! Thanks to Netflix not censoring thier exclusive stuff, unlike most of Japan's TV networks
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Devilman crybaby was not just violent, it was more violent than any iteration before it in an already infamously brutal series. I feel like if you took a sip everytime someone got dismembered in that series youd die of alcohol poisoning. Yeah maybe you could argue the art style offsets that cause its more styalized, but hell no you see people getting their guts strewn, heads exploding, getting sliced into multiple piece, devoured, and all that pretty consistently.

Anime violence just isnt as prevalent because of censors and OVA's dying out, but its been that way since the mid 90's. The hyper violence of stuff really only came from 1980's ova's that bled out in the early 90's. The really violent stuff was the big outliers, even today there are some really gory things out there, 18if's 2nd episode and weirdly only its 2nd episode, inuyashiki was fairly violent though much less than gantz, shiki last 8 episodes were essentially covered in blood and people having their heads smashed in, parasyte was full of dismemberment and body horror, and above all else devilman crybaby cause jesus christ that show was so fucking gory.


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i dont think it was that many gore in 90-00..
very early 90's there was, but not much. On TV fuck no there was less than there is now. later half of the 90's was when anime was putting alot of focus on more realistic movements in the more mature movies and shows of the time leading to blood getting toned way the fuck down mostly.
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It's because todays japan is more censor heavier than in previos years.
If is's comes to games or tv you cant show anymore slotted body or blood without colouring it.
For example in games too violent games don't become a rating where in most countries you can go ahead with +18.
Today's japan can compete with censorship heavy countries like australia, new zealand and germany.
 
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Tsukeru-kun said:

For example in games too violent games don't become a rating where in most countries you can go ahead with +18.
You cant show dismemberment in a japanese game or you get the equivalent of the adults only rating. Alot of games censor their original release when going stateside to avoid this, resident evil 7 is a good recent example
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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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JizzyHitler said:
Tsukeru-kun said:

For example in games too violent games don't become a rating where in most countries you can go ahead with +18.
You cant show dismemberment in a japanese game or you get the equivalent of the adults only rating. Alot of games censor their original release when going stateside to avoid this, resident evil 7 is a good recent example


Yeah t's so ridiclous of japanese government bein so censor heavy.
I mean they censor even their own original games in original country, and in another country you can have that game uncensored. ^^''
 
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Less focus on OVAs for a market base which had very little limits on content. I would also argue there hasn't really been a shift in the amount of nudity or if any it's likely lesser due to the limitations of broadcasts regarding censorship and again a shift from OVA focused markets. I mean with modern censorship the scenes themselves may be more lewd but the amount of Nudity as a result of the censoring would be less than say an original Gundam series.
 
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Tsukeru-kun said:
JizzyHitler said:
You cant show dismemberment in a japanese game or you get the equivalent of the adults only rating. Alot of games censor their original release when going stateside to avoid this, resident evil 7 is a good recent example


Yeah t's so ridiclous of japanese government bein so censor heavy.
I mean they censor even their own original games in original country, and in another country you can have that game uncensored. ^^''
to be fair its kind of weird elsehwere too with the reverse happening. Case and point tales of berseria almost got the M rating here and higher pegi ratings elsewhere cause one of the early scene depicts a child being stabbed with a sword. They had to edit the scene to this weird magic attack that ironically looks more brutal to avoid the rating increase


on top of that, theres stuff like the swastika being outright banned in certain countries so hilariously games like wolfenstein and cod ww2 remove it alltogether for a ton of releases. Theres odd censorship everywhere

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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Well it could be since the majority of seasonal shows nowadays are slice of life and school-based comedy shows, more intended for 'less mature' audiences, whereas back then there were more 'adult' shows. Plus, SoL is generally more popular now then other genres, which means that creators will tend to make more series' revolving around those genres


I don't know about you but it'd be weird to see a slice of life filled with gore


That being said, it's not like gore is completely gone yet. Monogatari series (Especially the prequel movies) has a lot of gore in them and they're relatively new
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I feel like in terms of TV anime though violence has always been pretty consistent. I cant really even think of that many R rated anime from the 80's for TV anime cause alot of them were aimed at children though fanservice was far more prominent and nudity heavy. Violent imagery almost always seemed deligated towards movies and ovas

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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I think there are some in every season
just censored tho (like in ousama's game)
 
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I’m pretty sure gore is highly censored, when it’s still present. If you watch a TV broadcast version originally aired on Japanese TV, it’ll almost always be censored unless it’s after a certain late night timeblock. Kind of like how some cable channels in the US allow the usage of “fuck” in TV-MA broadcasts after 9-10PM, but not before then.


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Seriously?? -_- I was under the impression that anime became more and not less gorey after 2010, i mean, nowadays a lot of anime is rated R - 17+ and up for violence, don't those have a lot of gore? Before 2010 gorey anime was mostly restricted to Ova's/Movies was it not? Television anime was seldom rated above PG-13 - Teens 13, and most anime censored gorey stuff from the manga, like, compare the level of violence of the old Fullmetal Alchemist and D.Gray-man to Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood and D.Gray-man Hallow, who are much more gorey than their previous ataptations. Didn't gore in anime become the norm with stuff like Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, Mirai Nikki, Psycho Pass and etc.?
 
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Dauphine said:
Didn't gore in anime become the norm with stuff like Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, Mirai Nikki, Psycho Pass and etc.?
That is gore for the weak and that's why they are called edgy not gore.
Hellsing ultimate and Devilman Crybaby can be called gore.
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Gory anime is still made nowadays and many examples have been given in this thread but we will never see outrageous stuff like Genocyber or Elfen Lied because studios are trying to make as much money as possible and violent late night anime is not the way to go .
 
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So your saying there's different levels of gore? Makes sense, since some anime are not consistently gorey, like Owari no Seraph who got toned down after a while.
 
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Anime (Especially OVA's) around that time were going through an experimental edgy period. As a side note, just because something's gory doesn't means it's good, there are literally hundreds of OVA's from then to prove it.

Anime today (Specifically TV anime), however, had new requirements placed upon it around 2012 due to shows that were basically hentai or gore fests getting past the censors.
 
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Watch Devilman Crybaby or Hellsing Ultimate and come back ;^)
 
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What happened to dark, mature and NOT over the top action anime?

There are no more Bebops, Black Lagoons, Jormugunds.

The same applies here, it doesn't sell anymore.


 
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I would love to see more gorey anime, I know theres been a few some of them are really cool some not so much. Im sure there's still some hidden one around
 
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Tsukeru-kun said:

Today's japan can compete with censorship heavy countries like australia, new zealand and germany.
WTF, New Zealand's not censorship heavy at all...
 
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Gore anime are usually pretty bad, so good that there is less of them.

 
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Hmm...I dunno... that's sad cause I actually enjoy gory shows lol
 
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It got killed by kid friendly, try reading the source materials most of the time they still have the gore.
 
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What happened to dark, mature and NOT over the top action anime?

There are no more Bebops, Black Lagoons, Jormugunds.

The same applies here, it doesn't sell anymore.
Black Lagoon is over the top action anime and looking at Jormugunds' cover, how the characters are clustered, how the white long haired character smiles I wouldn't be surprised this was over the top action as well.
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Higurashi, Another, Mirai Nikki, Elfen Lied

Is it that hard to find animes that suit you? There are probably more than that but I dont know much shows yet

 
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I think you need to watch Devilman: Crybaby.
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I guess a lot of studio execs want their shows to air in the best time slots, which won't allow for explicit content. This is why a lot of today's royally fucked up content is relegated to OVAs and ONAs.
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IdleSolution said:
Higurashi, Another, Mirai Nikki, Elfen Lied

Is it that hard to find animes that suit you? There are probably more than that but I dont know much shows yet

Done w/ all of that. I'm just hoping producers would make more gory shows even just short OVAs (plot shouldn't be terrible though)
 
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We literally just got Devilman Crybaby... Still complaining?
 
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we literally got devilman crybaby
and afaik
blame and blade runner had decent gore

we had adaptation of king's edge game last season so
Vorpality said:
What happened to dark, mature and NOT over the top action anime?

There are no more Bebops, Black Lagoons, Jormugunds.

The same applies here, it doesn't sell anymore.

black lagoon is over the top so no idea what you mean by that
and anyways

we have
thunderbolt
iron blooded orphan
anyways so
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Scarlett_ryuken said:

iron blooded orphan
Its the most violent gundam by a long shot but im pretty sure by american standards its considered a TV-14 rating.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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Scarlett_ryuken said:

iron blooded orphan
Its the most violent gundam by a long shot but im pretty sure by american standards its considered a TV-14 rating.


fcking all of that and only tv-14
whew jfc
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JizzyHitler said:
Its the most violent gundam by a long shot but im pretty sure by american standards its considered a TV-14 rating.


fcking all of that and only tv-14
whew jfc
I mean the show has almost all its R rated stuff happen off screen, its just deceptively bloody, like characters are losing limbs, being crushed into a bloody paste, and all this other grotesque shit but none of that is ever actually shown happening. its just effective in showing the right amount of blood to convey most of that.

Thats honestly one of the main reasons I think the show definetly wasnt glorifying violence like i initially thought, it could of been just avoiding censors but it really reads like the violence in the show was meant to be more disgusting than cool, you dont see any over the top deaths just the brutal aftermaths and people suffering from them.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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JizzyHitler said:
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fcking all of that and only tv-14
whew jfc
I mean the show has almost all its R rated stuff happen off screen, its just deceptively bloody, like characters are losing limbs, being crushed into a bloody paste, and all this other grotesque shit but none of that is ever actually shown happening. its just effective in showing the right amount of blood to convey most of that.

Thats honestly one of the main reasons I think the show definetly wasnt glorifying violence like i initially thought, it could of been just avoiding censors but it really reads like the violence in the show was meant to be more disgusting than cool, you dont see any over the top deaths just the brutal aftermaths and people suffering from them.


i mean yea thats why i mentioned it as a mature not over the top violence show =/
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
JizzyHitler said:
I mean the show has almost all its R rated stuff happen off screen, its just deceptively bloody, like characters are losing limbs, being crushed into a bloody paste, and all this other grotesque shit but none of that is ever actually shown happening. its just effective in showing the right amount of blood to convey most of that.

Thats honestly one of the main reasons I think the show definetly wasnt glorifying violence like i initially thought, it could of been just avoiding censors but it really reads like the violence in the show was meant to be more disgusting than cool, you dont see any over the top deaths just the brutal aftermaths and people suffering from them.


i mean yea thats why i mentioned it as a mature not over the top violence show =/
yeah i didnt see the reply it was to saying that


Vorpality said:
What happened to dark, mature and NOT over the top action anime?

There are no more Bebops, Black Lagoons, Jormugunds.

The same applies here, it doesn't sell anymore.
they come out alot not sure whats your talking about, 91 days, shinsekai yori, death parade(to an extent given its supernatural), fate/zero, we got that new show from production ig in like a month and a half



the thing is, these really down to earth or so series are again,. the odd ones out and always have been, older anime in many ways are more over the top than ones now especially in the 80's. Also theres alot more mature series that dont need to get dark to be matures such as the recent rakugo, which has a few very dark moments but is ultimately a true to life slice of life tragedy.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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Made in Abyss was pretty gory and that came out half a year ago
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There's still a lot of gory anime being made, maybe not to the level of 90's OVAs but making those kinds of OVA now aren't very smart if you're looking for substantial profit.
 
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Only modern anime I would call gory is "corpse party" and maybe "another". Mirrai nikki is just bloddy same as the rest of them.

Gore is more like Genocyber:
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> Is it illegal to make shows like Elfen Lied now?
I wish it was considered illegal exposing someone to that level of garbage..


OT: there is still some gore shows airing (to give example from last season: Ousama Game), is just more "lighter" now then it was before. Wich is a good thing imo since a series shoudnt need to have over the top gore in order to sustain itself.



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