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Nov 12, 2016 6:21 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well Izetta sure knows how to make an entrance...
She and the princess got some decent chemistry time together as well this episode. Felt like half of the episode dragged a bit though.

In regards to the war, pacing picked up and it's interesting to see Izetta use her powers to guide those missiles. I guess she didn't expect the counterattack to be so rough though.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:17 AM

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I really love this alternate setting :-)

United States of Atlanta and independent Louisiana at the same time ? I would love to read history book from this world :-)


But what's this?



Do they have their own witch? Or are they creating one?
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:28 AM

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I really love this alternate setting :-)

But what's this?



Do they have their own witch? Or are they creating one?


Probably created considering the shows name is "Izetta: The Last Witch"

Will be interesting to see how this will play out, I always thought Basler in some uber nazi jet fighter would be Izettas main rival but it will most likely end up being whoever is in that capsule.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:34 AM

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Another good episode, better than the previous in many ways.

The reunion, the moments with Finé and Izetta and the battle were good. But the build to the plan seems that Izetta is gonna be fucked in the next episodes and I have a little fear for this.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:43 AM

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Pretty awesome action by Izetta, especially with that Torpedos.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:47 AM

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Hmm... Even if this for Izetta and the other a successfully mission was, I'm aifred, that the true nightmare for them just now begins - Because Izetta's secret more or less lured out was by this action.

Well, like expected: this will in a cliffhanger continue and end... I like this series...xD
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:55 AM

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Great episode.

I was kinda suspicious of the plane captain who was introduced but he seems like a good guy for now.

Fun little scene with Fine and Izetta in the bedrrom. XD

The operation to sink the carrier was pretty exciting to watch and the battle animation and tailfighting was awesome. Izetta knows how to put on a show. Though I was kinda worried that she might fail when her magic started fluctuating, Glad she pulled through.

Sadly while the mission did succeed, The Germanian empire knows that Izetta has a weak point now. :(
Wonder if the person in the other capsule that was shown could also be a witch. :o
I'm also very interested in the true history of the white witch of Elystadt.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 9:57 AM
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Great action this week.Izetta even though she had hard time against the enemy aircraft fighters managed to use the torpedos to sink the enemy aircraft carrier,which was actually a bait to expose her weakness.An artificial witch is being made as well,which means we are going to have a battle between the two magic girls.
 
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Nov 12, 2016 10:19 AM
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Loved the action this episode. Izetta flying through the Norwegian fjords with her torpedoes in her wake was a great watch.
The guy who wrote this really combined lots of bit and pieces of true historical happenings and 'things that could have been' to create an interesting setting
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Nov 12, 2016 10:28 AM

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Traitors and spies everywhere, can never have an honest straight forward war :'(
Izetta going to take out a big new carrier ship to impress the USA but gets ambushed.
It was good battle, very nice choreographed.
Megane nazi major finds out the secret :'(

 
Nov 12, 2016 10:36 AM

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well, that's actually a good action episode
 
Nov 12, 2016 10:44 AM

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This was a good setup for future episode as it seems alot of things will come into play. That yuri though.

Anyways, I'm very curious to see what the plan they were talking about. Maybe making a witch without any weakpoints? This should get interesting.
 
Nov 12, 2016 11:34 AM

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Yuri moment, action, musical stuff, and "story" to actually advance the plot, about time but meh 3.5/5
Don't believe the hype.
 
Nov 12, 2016 12:08 PM
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This episode just reinforces the formula of bland dialogue broken only with cliche fanservice. At least the action was okay but since everything else was dull, meh. I guess the plot may be moving though, with Germanian guys seeing Izetta's weakness. We'll see how it develops from here.
 
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izetta, don't go dying after getting a princess.... never mind

rip plan, well, their plan, the germanians are on point.
 
Nov 12, 2016 12:35 PM

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Personally I didn't really care for much in this episode except for the Izetta action. Seeing her flying around on her gun with torpedoes behind her was a pretty entertaining spectacle. It's unfortunate that her weakness has been confirmed by the Germanian dude, but it was bound to happen sooner or later. It also looks like Germania is potentially creating their own witch (?) who I'm assuming doesn't have the same weakness that Izetta deals with.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:40 PM

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Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Who am I kidding int he end the show will pretend Fine and Izetta are just "really good friends"...


I could excuse shoddy plot and historical innacuracies if they actually did legit happen as a pairing but this is japan so it won't.
 
Nov 12, 2016 2:37 PM

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So happy Izetta didn't curbstomped the Germanians and she actually struggled to defeat them this time. The Germanian pilot was also showed to be Izetta's greatest adversary to the date. Hope we see more of him later.

Did Berkman implied at the end they are creating a witch? This could be interesting...
Plus he also discovered Izetta's weakness...
 
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The action was so good along with the OST as usual, but it seems like it was all a decoy the Germanians set up, and now they know Izetta's weak point.... This is getting bad.


 
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That battle was pretty great. Izetta was surprised that one of the planes can catch up to her. She succeeded in sinking the carrier, but that was planned by the enemy to find her weak point.
 
Nov 12, 2016 3:21 PM

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The yuri was super strong this week. I was expecting something akin to a confession over there with how things were looking lol.

Finè sure likes pretty extravagant introductions. That introduction to Izetta. The plan to blow up the big German ship fails as a reliable source had informed them of this beforehand, although they do manage to deal some damage to it with Izetta blowing up the torpedoes inside it. Who is this source? Really curious to find out who is leaking this info.

Berkman is pretty cool. He had that big carrier used as bait. And now he has found out Izetta's weakness. She can't use her magic everywhere. And for some confirmations, the old castle will be investigated. And was that another witch I spotted in the green liquid?
 
Nov 12, 2016 4:08 PM

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Both the yuri and action on point this week, definitely one of the stronger episodes.
 
Nov 12, 2016 4:29 PM
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So rickert is going undercover now how much you wanna bet he'll fall for izetta
 
Nov 12, 2016 4:37 PM
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Fai said:
Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Who am I kidding int he end the show will pretend Fine and Izetta are just "really good friends"...


I'm just seeking comfort in the fact that Izetta being flustered because they were going to share a bed means she has more than platonic feelings for Fine.

Bait is a cruel cruel thing ;_;
 
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sarroush said:
Fai said:
Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Please don't be just a bait.
Who am I kidding int he end the show will pretend Fine and Izetta are just "really good friends"...


I'm just seeking comfort in the fact that Izetta being flustered because they were going to share a bed means she has more than platonic feelings for Fine


That's not a fact. It can interpreted as Izetta being embarrassed because she feels unworthy of sharing a room/bed with the princess. That actually goes in line with her humble and self-deprecating attitude.
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That's not a fact. It can interpreted as Izetta being embarrassed because she feels unworthy of sharing a room/bed with the princess. That actually goes in line with her humble and self-deprecating attitude.


That's way too subtle for this show.

Actually they don't even have to bug out with a friends ending, they'll just kill off Fine.
 
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WrongPriest said:
1idd0kun said:


That's not a fact. It can interpreted as Izetta being embarrassed because she feels unworthy of sharing a room/bed with the princess. That actually goes in line with her humble and self-deprecating attitude.


That's way too subtle for this show


It's not subtle at all. Did you forget when Izetta outright said she isn't worthy of being Fine's friend? Or when she woke up in the palace and apologized for sullying the bed?

Izetta's character has been guilt up on this idea that she considers herself filthy and unworthy because she has self-esteem issues. Her embarrassment this episode is the same thing.
 
Nov 12, 2016 7:18 PM

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Yuri tension as always
 
Nov 12, 2016 7:39 PM

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I was actually expecting a second witch because there's no way anyone would beat Izetta without something that can match her. But nice job finding out the power.
 
Nov 12, 2016 7:56 PM
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That's way too subtle for this show.

Actually they don't even have to bug out with a friends ending, they'll just kill off Fine.


Hahaha I'm more inclined to believe Izetta's going to die.
Why can't we have any happy endings? ;_;
 
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The enemies keep talking about trying to find Izetta's weakness, but don't they already know one? That she can't attack unless she touched the object? That's a pretty big detail.

Granted, there was one display of her "power" where she didn't touch anything, but a Germanian(s?) found that off and hard to believe anyway.
 
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Intense episode with a yuri-bait scene.
So now the enemy knows Izetta's weakness, and it seems they're creating their own witch
 
Nov 12, 2016 9:39 PM
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Well at least this show isn't getting any worse, but that's because that's a hard thing to do by this point lol.

I can't wait for it to finish, I got a lot of criticisms for it in my future review.
 
Nov 12, 2016 10:26 PM

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well that was awesome .. the fight between the army and izetta was cool eventhough izetta was ambushed she managed to get that ship wrecked but that four-eyed one said it's just a way to show izetta's weakness and what's that before the end is that another witch they're making :v .. but a witch riding a rifle with 4 torpedoes is badass
 
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Why did she need to have the torpedos ride with her though? I think there were moments when she controlled things that were far away pretty easily. Couldn't she have controlled them underwater to get them near the ship for a better surprise attack?
 
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I'm really starting to dislike both Izetta and Fine. They have shown too little character development for a show that is seven episodes in. They have yet to encounter any plot development (that may end soon though) to precipitate any sort of meaningful change. Izetta still continues to act in the innocent, jumpy, naive form who is still fanatically devoted to Fine we have seen since this show started.

This is an anime that is just as much about WAR as it is about the yuri-bait relationship between Fine and Izetta. There is so much potential that is wasted up until now to use this unique setting to shape our protagonists.

I mean seriously guys, Izetta has pretty much killed a small army, and she doesn't seem fazed by this at all. We haven't yet seen Fine struggle with the reality of running a country at war as a young, new, and inexperienced head of state. Instead, they just keep plodding along as they are. It's infuriating.
 
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1idd0kun said:
sarroush said:


I'm just seeking comfort in the fact that Izetta being flustered because they were going to share a bed means she has more than platonic feelings for Fine


That's not a fact. It can interpreted as Izetta being embarrassed because she feels unworthy of sharing a room/bed with the princess. That actually goes in line with her humble and self-deprecating attitude.


Yes friends totally lie in the same bed facing each other while in their underwear, holding hands an d looking longingly into each other's eyes. Suure.


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Actually they don't even have to bug out with a friends ending, they'll just kill off Fine.


Izetta is more likely to die.
Then they can marry off Fine to some male and pretend this did not happen.
You know, like pretty much everything in class S genre does.
 
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Izetta the torpedo carrier. Good action episode.
 
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The anime series, manages to stay afloat, mainly thanks to the many aid, so let's call them, which always come in the area Cesarini. This also happens now, the narrative quite obvious, can become exciting when you covertly suggests that the enemy has an ace up his sleeve and beyond. Drawings and animations, good, but not excelled. The soundtrack and scenes, however, are better than good.



Oh oh oh! :3

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mozgow said:
I really love this alternate setting :-)

But what's this?



Do they have their own witch? Or are they creating one?


Probably created considering the shows name is "Izetta: The Last Witch"

Will be interesting to see how this will play out, I always thought Basler in some uber nazi jet fighter would be Izettas main rival but it will most likely end up being whoever is in that capsule.


It may also be true your guess, but it would be a little event too out of place if they want to stick to the reality so far built in the plot. That would indicate a genetic manipulation, and with all the good will, it is unthinkable that there are in that age the knowledge to do that. Although in history, it appears as a witch Izetta.
 
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Fai said:
1idd0kun said:


That's not a fact. It can interpreted as Izetta being embarrassed because she feels unworthy of sharing a room/bed with the princess. That actually goes in line with her humble and self-deprecating attitude.


Yes friends totally lie in the same bed facing each other while in their underwear, holding hands an d looking longingly into each other's eyes. Suure.


"Loving eyes" is your interpretation. And BFFs sleep together all the time.
 
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Izetta sunk the KMS Graf Zeppelin!

Did she just dive bomb that CV with torps? I thought she was gonna drop 'em into the carrier's path like a one-woman torpedo bomber squadron, but that works too. Why use torpedoes conventionally when you can use them like airborne anti-ship missiles anyway...

Dem Germanians need to work on their AA. An escorting DD, CL and a fighter squadron or two running CAP filling the sky with tracers still isn't enough. :P

On another note, feeling likely we'll run into an episode where her magic, or the lack thereof, will eventually fail to save the day considering the enemy is creeping closer to figuring out her weakness...

Maybe Greater Liechtenstein Eylstadt's military has another trick or two up their sleeve, or at least some military support for Izetta when she finds herself in such a situation.
 
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Episode was okay. But with the pacing ... I already thought this is going to be 1 cour only. Seems this info also is on MAL (12 episodes). I don't think where will be any interesting/deeper plot anymore. But hopefully some more nice action with the guys (airplane fighter guy).

Score for me ight end up with a 7 when it started as 8 (hoped for more/better story).
 
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"Loving eyes" is your interpretation. And BFFs sleep together all the time.


Not really. Its the matter of having a full scale understanding of the world and not applying double standards to relationships and interactions base don gender.

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Nov 13, 2016 10:12 AM
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A great episode as always

Hmm a Germanian aircraft carrier
Thankfully its still not operational as its real life counterpart lol

Its also nice to see the alternate forms of Norway and France in this episode
just to parallel it with WW2 as well

Its interesting to see that the United States doesn't actually exist here
because alongside the ambassador from Atlanta there's also the one from Louisiana

Man that Britannia ambassador really knows how to set the pace of the meeting
doesn't he

And wow what an entrance from Fine and Izetta lol
well then guys Izetta does certainly exist as you see

Izetta's power is more akin to a rapier and is more suited to precise strikes
wow planning to sink their aircraft carrier is quite a bold declaration
I can't see the germanians being lax in their security though

Hmm and a new pilot from the Britannians to help in the operation
interesting

Lol Izetta looks so flustered about staying in the same room with Fine
man they have quite a close bond
But the trust they have in each other is absolute though

man that ace seems to be enjoying his new plane that was given to him
by intel
though he seems to be a motormouth lol
That kid thats partnered with him though tries to hard to be his boss sometimes

This operation though looks pretty risky
But since Fine and Izetta both agreed with it
Both have the utmost confidence in it
Lets hope it goes off successfully

Hmm the four engined bombers that they use to carry the torpedoes look like
lancasters

Its nice to have someone or something to protect when you're fighting
as Izetta stated
The sight of Izetta dragging items with her as she flies never ceases to amaze me
Now she's dragging torpedoes with her and 4 of them as well

Lol the expressions of the crew and the observers
wow so she has to aim her torpedo at the center of the carrier
and detonate them at the same time and depth
thats rather tricky

Just as you expect
the Germanians have laid an ambush
the carrier is just too juicy of a bait to let up

wow those new fighters of theirs are fast
and are able to keep up with Izetta that easily

But its nice that the Britannia pilot has the guts
to charge into battle as well
And man that was some good timing in getting there to cover Izetta's attack

Though they managed to sink the carrier
The germanians now know Izetta weakness or close to it
Hmm it seems that the Germanians may still have another witch
judging from that capsule

Combat scenes and animation in this episode was especially good
especially when Izetta was engaged with the carriers escorts and fighters.
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Fai said:
1idd0kun said:

"Loving eyes" is your interpretation. And BFFs sleep together all the time.


Not really. Its the matter of having a full scale understanding of the world and not applying double standards to relationships and interactions base don gender.

http://misrepresentationofwomen.weebly.com/heteronormativity.html


We're talking anime. The double standard is inherent to it.

Besides it's true BFFs sleep together all the time.
 
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Rise and shine, Izetta! The action & OST in this episode was fucking great, as usual. And I really like how she speaks with the objects she control. It's kinda cute.

Now I wonder if they really know Izetta's weakness...

Holy cow, they have their own witch? I can't wait for the Witch vs Witch episode.
 
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Probably the best episode since both characters have more attitude and good action scenes. Entertaining.
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What I'm wondering since the beginning of this anime: why are the shooting bullets glowing green? It looks like it's straight outta fuckin Star Wars..
 
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What I'm wondering since the beginning of this anime: why are the shooting bullets glowing green? It looks like it's straight outta fuckin Star Wars..

They are shooting tracer ammunition and as such it can emit a green glow (what isn't such a bad idea as it must make adjusting aim easier).
 
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They are shooting tracer ammunition and as such it can emit a green glow (what isn't such a bad idea as it must make adjusting aim easier).

Ah, then I got no complaints :D Just never heard of that kind of ammo. Was it mentioned in the anime that they are using this or just your assumption?
 
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