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Oct 8, 2016 7:23 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I have to admit, that was quite an aerial dogfight or whatever it tried to do with the action.

Two girls riding a big gun against fighter aircrafts..
This episode further shows the cruelty of war with the pain and suffering. Fine and Izetta got along with each other better than I had thought. Well they did have a childhood history after all.

I'm guessing it will become a mouse and cat game soon with others looking for Izetta.
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Oct 8, 2016 9:01 AM
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It further shows how generic and uninspir(ing)ed those plots have become. They could do infinitely better work with alternative history elsewhere, but they had budget. A pity, a waste.
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Oct 8, 2016 9:17 AM

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Daniel_Naumov said:
It further shows how generic and uninspir(ing)ed those plots have become. They could do infinitely better work with alternative history elsewhere, but they had budget. A pity, a waste.


It is a still an improvement from the usual shit we get each season.
 
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Oct 8, 2016 9:18 AM

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400km/h and they are ok with it

This episode felt empty tbh I thought that it would be more interesting, but it's only the 2nd episode so I can't rush my judgment
 
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Oct 8, 2016 9:19 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I have to admit, that was quite an aerial dogfight or whatever it tried to do with the action.

Two girls riding a big gun against fighter aircrafts..
This episode further shows the cruelty of war with the pain and suffering. Fine and Izetta got along with each other better than I had thought. Well they did have a childhood history after all.

I'm guessing it will become a mouse and cat game soon with others looking for Izetta.
It was pretty fu*king good. Really liking the BGMs, fûcking masterpiece.
 
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Oct 8, 2016 9:33 AM

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Like the ost is this episode. Anyway I get me thinking after watching this, thisk ind of anime/story normally won't end up happy ending. I mean maybe the country or problems will be resolved at the end, but I doubt an abnormal existance like Izetta gonna survive.
 
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Oct 8, 2016 9:41 AM

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Was a pretty decent second episode. Story does seem a little generic so far, but I'm willing to continue on.
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Oct 8, 2016 9:43 AM

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I believe Izetta won't leave her "magical" Rifle with no particular reason. She'll have to retrieve back her Rifle.
That flashback of them, are so cute.
 
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Oct 8, 2016 9:44 AM

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Very nice follow up episode.

The aerial dog fighting was awesome, Izetta's powers are really cool. Soundtrack was excellent throughout the battle as well.
Two girls riding a rifle in the air must be like one of the most awkward things you can see in a war (Based off the OP she even rides it like a motorbike).

As referenced by the title, Izetta is the last witch still alive. Wonder if we'll get some more background info on these witches that existed.
Nice to see that Fine is respected by the people of her country. :)

The time Fine and Izetta spent together as children was really sweet to see, Couldn't help but smile as I saw them playing around.
Looks like Fine saved Izetta from a witch hunt and that's where she got her injury from.

As expected Izetta decides to save Fine's country, Can't wait to see how the story develops from here.
 
Oct 8, 2016 9:46 AM

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OST sounds nice. Izetta's loyalty to Finé is pretty endearing, and their relationship is explained a little in the episode too. There being controversy in having her, a witch, around is going to be troublesome (especially in the situation they have now).
 
Oct 8, 2016 10:13 AM

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This could have been a great political war drama, but the Izetta parts just feel so tacked on, even though she's the main character. The show would be much better without Izetta lol.

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I really hope this doesn't have a tragic ending :( I preferred the first episode, but this was really good too. Looking forward to next week.
 
Oct 8, 2016 10:45 AM

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OST this episode is really nice. I liked how they showing childhood izetta flaskback pieces by pieces.
Izetta will be hunting by Nazis, so maybe the best bet if she joins battle with Fine's country afterall.
 
Oct 8, 2016 11:01 AM

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And there lets Star Wars greet...xD



Lol, really. The OST of the OP and ED is fantastic, like the plot - Is very interesting, especially of course the both MCs^_^
 
Oct 8, 2016 11:13 AM

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That OST when they flew, DAAAMN.

Finé definitely doesn't know anything about her past.
 
Oct 8, 2016 11:15 AM

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I know she's supposed to be the main character and all that but man...I really hope that they fix how Izetta is supposed to blend into this series. Like she feels more like an outlier than a legitimate part of the story. I mean, yeah she's a witch and she uses magic but if you consider the drama of the show it feels like she doesn't really fit.

"Political War Drama WORLD WAR II AU!

Special Guest: A random witch."

That's what it feels like. Anyways, that OP though...the OST though...so much love. But as for the show itself, I'm hoping it gets better from here. At least they built upon the relationship between the females with that flashback.
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Oct 8, 2016 11:17 AM

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I really like how Izetta being loyal to Fine!
 
Oct 8, 2016 11:31 AM

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The art and animation haven't taken a dip yet and the story is holding up well, partially because there isn't much of a story yet. Overall though it's still enjoyable.
 
Oct 8, 2016 11:35 AM
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NIce OST and the art and animation are still top notch. I'm diging this a lot.
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Oct 8, 2016 11:38 AM

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I swear, if you replace the subtitles and do some edits this becomes fucking hilarious.
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Oct 8, 2016 11:51 AM

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Okay ep, fighting off the airplains and the germenians took down the fortress but the girls met up with the retreating men to save Fine.
 
Oct 8, 2016 12:17 PM

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Dogfight was a treat. OST continues to impress. Digging the atmosphere building.
 
Oct 8, 2016 12:22 PM

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Am liking the direction this story seems to be heading.
The dogfight was pretty cool, though the witch spikes seem kind of OP (yeah, I know she used her blood and all that, but still..). Liked how they showed other less heroic aspects of war, like the retreating and injured soldiers forced to camp out for the night for the princess and the field surgeon dressing down the wounds. Gave a bit of realism to the situation at least.

Can't wait to find out what the Germans want with Izetta and her powers. Hopefully it's more than just some "She'll be used to power our super destructive end-game weapon!" plot.
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Oct 8, 2016 12:27 PM

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Not much happened, but still solid episode.
Proper story-telling here, with proper pacing. Continue this and we should get a great series.
Add one or two unpredictable twist up ahead and we shall get one hell of a series to remember.
 
Oct 8, 2016 12:34 PM
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Duno why is everyone complaining. It's not that bad. Seen far worse. At least no apparent plot holes yet, crazy as hell villains and retarded MCs. They are like a norm nowadays.


But I do agree that witch feels tad out of place. Would work better if Izetta was German or something. Something more down to earth.
 
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First episode was better,but that was also pretty decent.Two girls in a huge gun vs fighter aircraft was good(I never imagined that I would write something like that xD).I like the friendship between the two girls have and I hope Izetta will be more revelant in the war and not just being obsessed with princess' company.
 
Oct 8, 2016 1:08 PM

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Lol just imagine how odd it must have been for those pilots to see two girls riding on top of a big gun......that part of the episode was really fun to watch.
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Oct 8, 2016 1:30 PM

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The animation seemed smoother this time around and the action sequence was amazing, really well done. I like the op but maybe more imagery in it would've been nice. Also, the setting and time period is established nicely and we get a lot more character development. This is Brave Witches done right.
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The dogfight was really cool, and the ost only made it better. Probably the highlight of the episode.

Also liked how they showed the defeated soldiers travelling through the forest after they retreated of the battle with they being healed by the surgeon and forced to stay in the forest. It makes the setting more like if we are really in the WWII.

Izetta's friendship is really sweet, being loyal to her friend until the end. I hope she doesn't get too OP against the nazis Germans, though, since that would made the battles predictable, and taking in mind she destroyed a bunch of airplanes like nothing this episode, I hope her magic has some limiatationd espite she being stated to be very powerful.
 
Oct 8, 2016 1:43 PM

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I really liked that dogfight even though it was kinda unfair LOL, oh and the OST during this episode was especially beautiful.
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:00 PM
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tbh i just find this offensive to history
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:01 PM

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This anime is just wow.

The animation is unbelievable

@NoValueNobs I found your comment very offensive to the staff behind this anime tbh
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:05 PM

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both girls are Waifu material
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:13 PM

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I'm really digging this series. Finé is still my favourite so far though.
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Oct 8, 2016 2:19 PM

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This anime has probably the best OST this season. Putting that aside, I liked that Izetta's magic is not omnipotent and that she run out of "power source" (I don't know if it's mana or spirits or something else). I also like that she wasn't able to heal Finé with magic.

It's good that they showed the terror of war (Germanian soldier killing civilians). And it seams this was the moment when they captured Izetta. But how they found that she is the witch?
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:28 PM

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I enjoyed this episode quite a lot. The action was good and the flashback was cute.
 
Oct 8, 2016 2:43 PM

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Much better episode this time around. I'm not expecting too much from the plot which is fine, so the characters are probably what will carry the show.
 
Oct 8, 2016 3:14 PM

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Much better episode this time around. I'm not expecting too much from the plot which is fine, so the characters are probably what will carry the show.


The setting is what makes this show stand out imo. I was actually in Switzerland just 2 months ago and this show presents a decent representation of the alps. They've done an alright job capturing the time period as well so the immersion isn't half bad.
 
Oct 8, 2016 3:25 PM

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This was a very good episode. The dogfight was really cool, but the gun sounds from the aircraft sounded weird, like old fashioned gun sounds. Izetta's powers were cool as well. Seeing two girls riding a gun must be awkward to witness. That was my favorite part.
 
Oct 8, 2016 3:28 PM

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Pretty decent episode, Izetta's going to save the country.

 
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Shuumatsu no Izetta (Izetta, the Last Witch) Episode 2: 8/10

After struggling to get off the ground in terms of character exposition, Shuumatsu no Izetta’s second installment wastes no time in capitalising on the potential set up by the first episode, in particular the dynamic relationship between our princess and the witch. After first impressions of the (pretty good) Shuumatsu OP, we’re thrown straight into an airborne fight sequence between Germanian fighter pilots and our chosen duo astride a rifle. A lot of things about this sequence are very strong, including the animation and course of the combat itself, but particularly impressive was the contrast between the internal motivations of the combatants. The bureaucratic, orderly march of the Germanian empire is personified in the captain of the airborne squadron, who dismisses the possibility of a witch in “this age of science” and wastes no time in justifying decisive violence against anyone regarded as “the enemy.” On the other end, we get our first peek into what looks to be a nuanced and complex interaction between Finé and Izetta, both willing to commit to self-sacrifice on behalf of the other. Izetta is of particular interest here, because of the internal conflict between the guidance of her grandmother and her duty-bound tendency to protect the princess by any means possible.

Throughout the episode, a series of flashbacks and dialogue serves to enhance the complexity of this relationship. Izetta’s childhood as the last witch, left with no family but her grandmother, and instructed to use magic only when alone, leaves her isolated and lonely. When Finé stumbles upon her magic in a wood, a moment of faith occurs: “You’re not scared?” Izetta asks. Expecting rejection and ostracism, Izetta is instead greeted by Finé’s enthusiasm upon discovering a magic-user. This moment in which the princess nullifies Izetta’s isolation helps to put the witch’s commitment to the crown into perspective, and sheds some light on the nature of the relationship between the two. On the other hand, Finé associates Izetta with the mythical Weisse Hexe, and she explains how she dreamt as a child of flying through the sky alongside Izetta. While this end of the relationship is less well developed, it’s still part of the illustration of an impressive relationship early in the series. The conclusion of the episode, too, draws powerfully on this relationship; Finé’s dedication in Izetta’s memory engenders the young witch with determination to use her power and save Eylstadt.

Some notes:

-It’s hard to find a lot to criticise when a narrative arc is this incisive. I felt that the episode lacked a bit of punch, but that’s hardly a valid criticism two episodes in, where the rising action is still brewing.

-Touching briefly on the bedroom scene, because it is a microcosm of good character portrayal: In the short span of three minutes, I was convinced of the diversity of motivation among characters participating in dialogue, and acutely aware of a developed power dynamic. That is very good writing.

-Also from the bedroom scene, I thought it was nice to see that some thought was put to the cultural significance of the legend of the White Witch. The few snippets of perspective we got are hopefully a promise of a more full-fledged discussion about the power of legend.

Overall, I loved this episode essentially from beginning to end. If Shuumatsu no Izetta can keep its promises this well and keep the punches flying fast, we may have a masterpiece on our hands.

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Oct 8, 2016 3:58 PM

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Once again, highly enjoyable episode. That aerial battle was really good. Can't forget the amazing OST either, and I loved the OP. So far I'm really enjoying this show.


 
Oct 8, 2016 4:43 PM

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Another good ep. The ost especially was the best and the flashbacks of Izetta and Fine were adorableeeee

Izetta defnitely has a thing for her "princess" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

It seems like there's some kind of limit with Izetta and how long she can use her magic and I guess it recharges over time?

I hope they'll have more info about the witches and how they played a role during that time
 
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I want to see Izetta in action.

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It seems like there's some kind of limit with Izetta and how long she can use her magic and I guess it recharges over time?

I hope they'll have more info about the witches and how they played a role during that time


Yeah, i hope too that they'll explain everything.
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Oct 8, 2016 4:57 PM

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both girls are Waifu material

Yeah, for each other.
 
Oct 8, 2016 5:55 PM

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For the second episode, it was pretty good. Looks like it's going to be a cat and mouse chase looking for Izetta and the princess.

 
Oct 8, 2016 7:34 PM

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Very enjoyable.

The girls got some use out of that anti-tank rifle they're riding and took down one of the pursuing Messerschmitts with it. Magic accounted for two and the fourth was a pilot not paying attention. Battle outcome: Germania 0, Girls on AT Rifle 4.

For the flashback, I'm glad that they did not address the princess's scar in any detail. I'd like to see that scene but I think placing it in this episode would have been too much for the pacing.
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Oct 8, 2016 7:40 PM

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Production values are great, premise is great, characters are likable. I'm really looking forward to more of this, it's pretty fun so far! It has potential, just waiting for something to really "wow" me in the story and I'll be totally hooked.
 
Oct 8, 2016 7:45 PM

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Love the op and ost in general. Enjoyed the ep

We will see how the series handles the mix of supernatural elements with politics and war.

Valkyria Chronicles did a pretty good job so not luke it can't work
 
Oct 8, 2016 7:46 PM

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The OP song and visuals are great! Though it could do without the expected and brief fanservice.The OST is absolutely amazing, definitely loving it thus far. Though the sound effects of the plane firing bullets was pretty bad though, sounds like something you'd hear from the SNES.

Some more Fine fanservice...and I'm FINE with that...BA DUM TSS!

Now we got the backstory/meeting between Fine and Izetta. They were adorable, even that corgi sneeze was cute. Present day Izetta is too kind and cute.


3/5- Animation is better though some scenes were a bit stiff. The OST is incredible while the sound effects like the plane firing it's bullets were laughable. Not a whole lot happens this episode and it was more of establishing Izetta and Fine's history on how they met. Now Izetta is choosing to protect Fine's country and I'm afraid this might end in tragedy.



 
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