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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- More of a buildup episode. It got emotional somewhat in some ways but I think it's important for the girls to stay focused. Looks like a lot of the buildup focuses about New Generation's next performance. Not everyone is as confident as others but they still have to do it anyways. Oh Rin...  |
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| How many times is Uzuki going to say that she's going to do her best? Does she have anything to her personality other than that? The fact is, you can just have this on in the background or without subtitles and still tell exactly what's going on cos everyone is so one-dimensional and has no personality outside a catchphrase or a select group of phrases. And yet, despite all this, the series tries to tack on drama to these characters who it's impossible to care about due to their lack of any kind of personality. It's absolutely pointless and feels ridiculoulsy contrived. This episode is a big example of this. How can there be such a big difference in quality between this and the original iDOLM@STER? I don't understand it. Also, do Mio and Rin seriously not understand that their actions have an effect on other people (namely Uzuki)? And why are they acting as if they actually care about New Generations when they blatantly don't? |
AtavisticSep 18, 2015 9:22 AM
danieltortoisee said: How many times is Uzuki going to say that she's going to do her best? Does she have anything to her personality other than that? Also, do Mio and Rin seriously not understand that their actions have an effect on other people (namely Uzuki)? And why are they acting as if they actually care about New Generations when they blatantly don't? Apparently it's her smile. Honestly, it really bothered me how they had no idea it was making Uzuki feel horrible, it was so obvious. |
| I'm quite sure that Uzuki will found her answer soon, and become important part. Well, we all knew this drama is coming. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| This episode seems like climax but I just cant stop thinking its still planting bomb for the next episode... dunno. Uzuki has told her problems but there's no solution or anything .... I dont know what to expect anymore :/ sigh 2 weeks until next ep... but because next special epi has Ruru (Mika's seiyuu) and TakeP, you're forgiven, A-1. |
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| Uzuki the ticking time bomb so that Project Krone and Mishiro explodes and die :3 |
| a whole episode of uzuki being a whiny bitch! :D |
| Literally the most selfish cast of characters I've ever seen in an anime...I can't help but feel like this is secretly a jab at the real life idol industry and how fickle some of those girls can be behind the scenes. The worst part is that they still try to portray these characters in a sympathetic light. It's disappointing because the music and costumes for this season were all really good, it just becomes really hard not to hate the characters. Uzuki should just quit being an idol, she's really not cut out for it. |
_mahoushoujos_Sep 18, 2015 1:15 PM
| That is why I consider Asterisk to be group I enjoy most - they would just assimilate those two and cheerfully move forward. Instead yet another episode of someone running away, drama and people who don't talk with eachother. |
| Man, I was hoping for something big -_- The series has been pretty underwhelming to me. It had potential, but the execution just leaves a lot to be desired. Wish the series focused more on the main cast ; giving a lot of screen time to characters outside the Cinderella Girls really hurts the series. Those hours/minutes of screen time could've been used to develop the girls in the Cinderella project danieltortoisee said: everyone is so one-dimensional and has no personality outside a catchphrase or a select group of phrases I've seen shitload of 1 dimensional characters, and the Cinderella Girls aren't like that, maybe except for Rika, Miria, Kanako and Chieri. |
alec613Sep 18, 2015 5:47 PM
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| too many 頑張ります in this episode i want shimamu bitch more about her displeasure to rin and honda |
| Unbelievable, That's what I think of Rin. Just when I though she couldn't get any lower. She tries to play victim when confronting Uzuki. And then we have Pussy Producer-san bowing to the hag that wants to remove Uzuki. P.S. Rin is a sorry bitch! |
| This is so cringeworthy. why the drama is getting worst and worst? |
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| Next week (September 26) is a special program promoting Cinderella Girls' third anniversary concert in November. Episode 24 (Barefoot Girls.) will be broadcast on October 3. Another special program will be broadcast on October 10 with a recap of the second season. Episode 25, the final episode, will be broadcast on October 17. Source: Official site |
| Ehhh. I could sympathize with Uzuki. She thinks she's not good at anything and feels like she's being left behind because of that. I felt bad for her. |
| I'm sure Uzuki being a whiny b*tch really pissed off a lot of people. But the catharsis scene with Rin is a redemption for her character in my eyes. She finally said things a normal human would say instead of GANBARIMASU!* troll face I'm glad Rin finally had the balls to call out Uzuki's bull, otherwise she might never have admitted to how pathetic she currently is. I feel the last couple of episodes have been a lot better than the majority first half of the season. Uzuki will pick herself back up again in preparation for the winter ball. |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| This episode felt like unnecessary wasted with Uzuki's drama (similar to Mio's breakdown during season one). It's like the show could be better but the producer wanted to hold back as much as possible. Normally I wouldn't mind it if both seasons have 24-26 episodes as there are episodes to spare but these sort of things don't always do 2-cour series a lot of good. A few episodes back I said Uzuki isn't 'main character' material and this shows why, her smile shield and covers her in front of everyone. The fact is she is the very first one shown at the start of season 1 so we expects more from her...bad mistake there and I still think Rin would make a better 'first main character' from season 1, Uzuki and Mio aren't very important even till this stage. Anyways, with 2 episodes left it's certain that they will finish with all 14 girls dancing at the winter ball regardless on how many flaws the show has. |
ShanaFlameSep 20, 2015 4:37 AM
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Mormegil said: Ehhh. I could sympathize with Uzuki. She thinks she's not good at anything and feels like she's being left behind because of that. I felt bad for her. I can sympathize with her too, its very easy felt inferior if you start to compare yourself with other people of your professional area. |
| Already predicted this to happen before. well just gonna see whether this will continue till final episode,or only to next episode which gonna come on October 3 |
Kyruga said: Mormegil said: Ehhh. I could sympathize with Uzuki. She thinks she's not good at anything and feels like she's being left behind because of that. I felt bad for her. I can sympathize with her too, its very easy felt inferior if you start to compare yourself with other people of your professional area. Pretty much this. I have no idea why people hate her so much besides the fact that shes so one dimensional. Nobody is perfect. Furthermore, Uzuki is being anything but whiny. She was literally covering up her insecurity/lack of self-confidence the whole time. If she was truly being whiny she would've complained about it, but she never once said anything until the very end that she does not feel as though her special talent has any worth that no one else can already do. |
"There is nothing outside of yourself that enables you to get better. Everything is within. Seek nothing outside of yourself." ⛩️  |
| Although it was one of those typical "get back up again" scenarios, this episode and Uzuki's feelings really hit home for me. Like spot on. I feel as though the people I work with are constantly shining and that I'm being left in the dust with little to nothing to offer in return. That they have a passion I want, but just don't have confidence in. It's really not easy to overcome that anxiety when it's built in so I'm rooting for Uzuki and hope she can sincerely do her best. A bit of a letdown that this is getting pushed back to mid October. That special looks like it might lend some behind the scenes insight, but I'm really only interested in seeing the Ball and New Gen get back on its feet. |
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| I was hoping for something more dramatic. Or satisfying? Sigh. At least something happened with Uzuki. Next week, back to doing absolutely nothing. |
| It makes me so happy to see more people waking up to just how much of a cold, heartless bitch that Rin truly is. She again pulls major bullshit trying to play the victim while STILL ignoring Uzuki's feelings when Uzuki is literally screaming in her face why she is hurting. Rin is a selfish, horrible person who is breaking NewGen, and I don't care if she's 15, she should realize that you don't betray your friends and then try to laugh it off and play it off like they are still important. Rin doesn't give two shits about NewGen anymore and it is blatantly obvious. Mio actually shows some true remorse about her actions going solo and leaving Uzuki alone, although I can't blame her too much because her actions were caused by Rin's betrayal as well. I know they are going to magically fix all of this in the coming episodes, but you know what? I don't want that. I want Rin to fail. I want her to feel the same hurt and heartbreak that Uzuki is feeling. Call me heartless, but I can't help it. Let Rin fall on her face, leave the company, and have Mio and Uzuki just form Generation of Summer. That would be my perfect ending. |
OceansevanSep 24, 2015 7:18 AM
| No new episode this week D: |
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| Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls 2nd Season episode 11 preview : Hang in there Uzuki. |
AnimeJunky said: Unbelievable, That's what I think of Rin. Just when I though she couldn't get any lower. She tries to play victim when confronting Uzuki. And then we have Pussy Producer-san bowing to the hag that wants to remove Uzuki. P.S. Rin is a sorry bitch! Kobiyama said: I'm pretty much done with Mio and especially Rin. They're just too ignorant to other people, it's actually "unbelievable." Poor Uzuki, she wanted to be an idol the most out of all of them really and all that has gotten her is ditched by her so called friends who try to convince her that they actually care about New Generations. Its all good though b/c what happens next seems to be relatively predictable. alec613 said: Man, I was hoping for something big -_- The series has been pretty underwhelming to me. It had potential, but the execution just leaves a lot to be desired. Wish the series focused more on the main cast ; giving a lot of screen time to characters outside the Cinderella Girls really hurts the series. Those hours/minutes of screen time could've been used to develop the girls in the Cinderella project danieltortoisee said: everyone is so one-dimensional and has no personality outside a catchphrase or a select group of phrases I've seen shitload of 1 dimensional characters, and the Cinderella Girls aren't like that, maybe except for Rika, Miria, Kanako and Chieri. Well those about sum my view of this cour |
Oceansevan said: It makes me so happy to see more people waking up to just how much of a cold, heartless bitch that Rin truly is. She again pulls major bullshit trying to play the victim while STILL ignoring Uzuki's feelings when Uzuki is literally screaming in her face why she is hurting. Rin is a selfish, horrible person who is breaking NewGen, and I don't care if she's 15, she should realize that you don't betray your friends and then try to laugh it off and play it off like they are still important. Rin doesn't give two shits about NewGen anymore and it is blatantly obvious. Mio actually shows some true remorse about her actions going solo and leaving Uzuki alone, although I can't blame her too much because her actions were caused by Rin's betrayal as well. I know they are going to magically fix all of this in the coming episodes, but you know what? I don't want that. I want Rin to fail. I want her to feel the same hurt and heartbreak that Uzuki is feeling. Call me heartless, but I can't help it. Let Rin fall on her face, leave the company, and have Mio and Uzuki just form Generation of Summer. That would be my perfect ending. That is a bit much. XD But i want Uzuki to not continue being an idol, so Rin can TRULY realise that what's going on with Uzuki is her fault. The upcoming live of NG feels like a pity towards Uzuki. But the remaining episodes will probably show that all is well, and that Rin and Mio being successful in their careers and Uzuki "enjoying" her life as an idol.... |
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| I thought they did a very good job portraying someone that is suffering from a major depressive episode with Uzuki. The way she still tries to smile in front of others and the way she still puts on a front to hide the fact that she's suffering inside. Also the way she takes lessons to make it seem like she's doing something, when all she really wants to do is hide from everything. I couldn't believe it when Mio and Rin just left her standing in the park to go home though. After calling her out and drawing her feelings and her tears to the surface, the least they could do to take responsibility for that is to walk her home and make sure she gets there safe. |
| Why don't people like this episode? Eh... we all have our opinions I guess. Best episode of the series by far. Seeing Uzuki's gradual breakdown and the effect it had on the others were tremendously displayed. Sure, you can call her a whiny bitch that has no personality, no skill, no redeeming quality besides her smile, but in reality that's all of us, no? We all tend to feel like this at times where we're useless and dragging down others, and that it would be better to just quit. It was painful and annoying to some to see how Uzuki's actions were really bringing down everyone else as she had feared, but yet again we all do this, so I'm glad this dilemma was dramatized so. Moments such as these are where you discover your true friends who care enough about you to be bothered as well, even if they didn't notice it as first. Then there's Rin and Mio. I'm going to put away my hatred for Mio to the side a bit because the way she handled this was far better in comparison to Rin, surprisingly. For the people criticizing those two as well, Rin and Mio are us, too. As humans it isn't possible to see everything even with the people who we consider the closest to us. I'm sure most of us would not know how to react with Uzuki's breakdown, so Rin's response may have been a bit harsh and insensitive, but in the buildup of emotions it would be difficult not to do that. Mio did the best she could by keeping a cool head and trying to get them all to connect once more. In the end, the situation has not been resolved, of course. But how can one resolve such a thing in just one meeting? This is something that Uzuki MUST overcome herself. The advice and support she receives from the others can only help her so much until she finally helps herself. This really is a great depiction of how depression works as well, so kudos to the staff of this episode for nailing it. Rooting everyone on at this point. I'm afraid the series will spiral down once again from this, perhaps by a sudden solution or another unrealistic "happy-happy make-up", but this was a true gem to experience. |
| She broke down, yep. I honestly feel bad for Uzuki. Everyone is all growing as an idol, in newer projects and Uzuki is left with nothing. The reality that she has no way of becoming better and scared to face it alone. That Rin being forceful with Uzuki. I thought she was gonna slap her and bring her down from the clouds. |
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| Finally a powerful line from this show. "The producer said that my special skill is smile. but that's something anyone can do." Felt that bit. Her strong point is her will to remain cheerful under fairly strict circumstances. Not everyone has that indeed. I like how Idolmaster franchise handle the "age" thing. Mio might have had made worse mistakes than Rin in the series, but their way of handling Uzuki in this episode did show that Mio was the older one. That was a good drama episode. A bit heavy but it worked. |
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| Uzuki's inferiority complex is pretty sad q_q |
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PaleBlue said: I thought they did a very good job portraying someone that is suffering from a major depressive episode with Uzuki. The way she still tries to smile in front of others and the way she still puts on a front to hide the fact that she's suffering inside. Also the way she takes lessons to make it seem like she's doing something, when all she really wants to do is hide from everything. I couldn't believe it when Mio and Rin just left her standing in the park to go home though. After calling her out and drawing her feelings and her tears to the surface, the least they could do to take responsibility for that is to walk her home and make sure she gets there safe. TOTALLY AGREE finally someone who understands ! dat episode rly almost made me cry tho ; _ ;) |
 "オモチャの銃を撃ち抜くの だ だ だ だッ！" - Eruna, Mikagura School Suite |
| This episode is... full of drama. P really is incompetent when it comes to communication. Mishiro-san is... well... too cruel, I guess. She is a true businesswoman, yes, but I think she sees the idols of the agency as money making machines fueled by talent. I can't blame her though, that's the way of the industry. ButtSlapper said: too many 頑張ります in this episode i want shimamu bitch more about her displeasure to rin and honda Uzuki is just too kind she didn't even think that Mio and Rin was (partly) guilty. AnimeJunky said: Unbelievable, That's what I think of Rin. Just when I though she couldn't get any lower. She tries to play victim when confronting Uzuki. And then we have Pussy Producer-san bowing to the hag that wants to remove Uzuki. P.S. Rin is a sorry bitch! Thought so. Look at how Mio and Rin handle the situation. When Uzuki cried, I was hoping, really really hoping, to see Mio and Rin would come to embrace Uzuki. But I knew how Rin was, so I didn't expect much from her. And it turned out to be true. Mio embraced Uzuki, but Rin didn't even drop her cool one bit, instead she just watched. Mormegil said: Ehhh. I could sympathize with Uzuki. She thinks she's not good at anything and feels like she's being left behind because of that. I felt bad for her. Me too. I have been in a situation similar to Uzuki. And now I realized just how pathetic it was. Uzuki's actions are understandable, but still pathetic. At that time, she really need her friends help. testamentKAISER said: Oceansevan said: It makes me so happy to see more people waking up to just how much of a cold, heartless bitch that Rin truly is. She again pulls major bullshit trying to play the victim while STILL ignoring Uzuki's feelings when Uzuki is literally screaming in her face why she is hurting. Rin is a selfish, horrible person who is breaking NewGen, and I don't care if she's 15, she should realize that you don't betray your friends and then try to laugh it off and play it off like they are still important. Rin doesn't give two shits about NewGen anymore and it is blatantly obvious. Mio actually shows some true remorse about her actions going solo and leaving Uzuki alone, although I can't blame her too much because her actions were caused by Rin's betrayal as well. I know they are going to magically fix all of this in the coming episodes, but you know what? I don't want that. I want Rin to fail. I want her to feel the same hurt and heartbreak that Uzuki is feeling. Call me heartless, but I can't help it. Let Rin fall on her face, leave the company, and have Mio and Uzuki just form Generation of Summer. That would be my perfect ending. That is a bit much. XD But i want Uzuki to not continue being an idol, so Rin can TRULY realise that what's going on with Uzuki is her fault. The upcoming live of NG feels like a pity towards Uzuki. But the remaining episodes will probably show that all is well, and that Rin and Mio being successful in their careers and Uzuki "enjoying" her life as an idol.... I think what Oceansevan said is a bit much too. Rin plays a major role in Uzuki's breakdown, she even knew it well, but she refuse to comfort Uzuki. I can't blame her. It might be that Rin was just being Rin. That's the way she is. She is cool, but too much coolness would make her cold and insensitive. |
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| Emotional episode I guess. It's all pointless anyways since all Uzuki has to do is smile and return to 346 Pro |
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| Poor Uzuki. Her lack of self-confidence made her act like that. Her voice actor did a good job at the end of episode. You could feel the emotion in her voice. Yes you have, sweetheart. Believe in yourself.  |
SerafosDec 22, 2023 3:50 AM
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| Hm.. So what can help Uzuki.. I think Uzuki couldn't tell all she thinks.. Because she can't just blame Rin and Mio from leaving the group.. What it will bring anyway?.. She wants to support them, and does so, by saying they are shining brightly in what they chose to do.. But it's also something what hurts Uzuki as well.. Everyone knows about the elephant in the room, but what can be even said about it?.. In the end, only deciding, what Uzuki will want to do next can help.. To go solo herself, if she doesn't feel connection with Miho.. Or to do anything else.. Maybe remembering what she came for to idols in the first place can help.. Does she still wants to reach this?.. If so, in which group or in solo she sees she'd do it in the best way?.. Maybe something like that could work out.. But also answer to something like this could also be.. "I don't know".. Well, I think it's one of the examples to denying the thing that talk will always work.. |
| Why did uzuki and mio doesn't perform and why did they don't do anything to made that rin regret to leave them, it really irritated me to watch them do nothing to made that bitch regret to leave them like that |
| damn look at how they massacred my girl! |
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