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Nov 17, 2013 1:24 PM

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Oh man that was really sad, I liked Mayoi the most out of them all lolis.
Nov 17, 2013 1:25 PM
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I can't stop crying! the tears just wont stop... Hachikuji was my favourite girl, I thought she will be with Araragi 'till the end! I want her back!
:v
Nov 17, 2013 1:54 PM
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Is it SHAFT's or Nisio's fault? Probably both. Anyway, they aimed for big drama and tears here, but it was boring because at this point, nobody gives a fuck about Araragi anymore. Which renders all that DORAMA moot.
Nov 17, 2013 2:02 PM

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Oh gawd, so many fucking feels.
Nov 17, 2013 2:17 PM

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Kleenex stocks just wnet up several points.
Nov 17, 2013 2:27 PM

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First off: All them feels.

But... It's an interesting development that in the end, Araragi had to let her go. He was asked to do so earlier, but by Oshino/Senjougahara, and he did not accept, even though he barely knew her. This time it's Mayoi herself who asked him, and after a long struggle, he gave in. Tells something about the character, huh.

Still, all the feels, especially the ED.
Nov 17, 2013 2:37 PM

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I cried... the conclusion of this arc was so tearful :''''
(kiss) Shitsurei.... Kamimashita... :'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' :(
Nov 17, 2013 2:46 PM

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YamiCodenamed said:
Fuck... i knew it was coming... that ending...
Oh, just to clear one thing up, im the one who maybe spoiled it 2 weeks ago
BUT i did say
If you dont want to get spoiled, stop reading here
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=681455&show=40#65hxoCa3v5hdcWK0.99
Anyway, if you spoiled yourself, i cant do anything. The only person that can be angry at me is the mod that went through the post to correct the spoiler tags

It was Xinception that spoiled a lot of us, but saying no one can be mad at you for ruining their viewing experience makes you an even bigger douche.
Nov 17, 2013 2:58 PM

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i cried, mayoi-chan was one of my favs!

sayonara mayoi-chan

Doaj said:
And with this episode, Monogatari became 80% less loli.

more like 40%
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Nov 17, 2013 3:05 PM
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AlexTheRiot said:
YamiCodenamed said:
Fuck... i knew it was coming... that ending...
Oh, just to clear one thing up, im the one who maybe spoiled it 2 weeks ago
BUT i did say
If you dont want to get spoiled, stop reading here
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=681455&show=40#65hxoCa3v5hdcWK0.99
Anyway, if you spoiled yourself, i cant do anything. The only person that can be angry at me is the mod that went through the post to correct the spoiler tags

It was Xinception that spoiled a lot of us, but saying no one can be mad at you for ruining their viewing experience makes you an even bigger douche.


LOL I remember that. So many people (including me) were pissed cuz of that idiot. But I agree with you. If you claim no one can be mad at you for spoiling such an important event, then that does indeed make you an even bigger douche.
Nov 17, 2013 3:18 PM

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hmm... to be fair I was pretty underwhelmed by this episode - especially after reading so many positive comments about it beforehand (though it didnt even spoil Hachikujis disappearance for me).

I dont like the path the series has been going down in this arc at all:
--- its genre label as a harem is showing more clearly then ever with araragi kissing three (loli!) girls, none of which is his girlfriend. Its reminding me, why I normally dont like the harem genre at all (which is mostly the male protagonists behaving like complete di**s) and it almost starts too feel like school days all over again.
--- the amount of lolicon scenes has just been too excessive for my taste. With regard to Hachikuji in particular: as long as it was just fun and games, I kind of became indifferent to the groping and stuff. But then this episode comes along with them holding hands and kissing and being presented as genuine love interests... ahhrg i dont know.
--- plus, especially in this episode, the series fell for some common anime tropes, which it managed to mostly steer clear of so far: too melodramatic, too cheesy, too cliché. Well, maybe i just couldnt get into the scenes, because watching Araragi and Hachikuji hold hands and kiss made me uneasy to begin with^^

One quote, which basically exemplifies all of these points: Araragi saying he wants to get lost with Hachikuji for the rest of his life. How am I supposed to take him seriously, when
a) he has a girlfriend, who he loves (but who cares about girlfriends anyway), a "partner for life" (Shinobu), that he desperately needs to save and whose salvation he would pretty much give everything for (which he just stated 2 minutes before that by the way), another girl (Hanekawa), who he basically wants to die for and 2 sisters he needs to care for
b) he says it to a 11-year-old girl, who then proceeds to kiss him and "bite his tongue" (cheeky :D)
c) all of this is presented in such an overly dramatic way, it almost makes me burst out laughing?

I am really trying to enjoy watching the Monogatari Series, I really am... especially since Bakemonogatari is my all time favourite anime. But sometimes scenes like this make it really difficult for me to do so. Im sorry i am being so harsh here, and over all i really love the Monogatari series, but I really needed to get this out of my system.

What remains for me is to hope, that the emphasis of MSSS shifts back again to what it used to be in most of the great previous arcs...

Grouchio said:
Aversa said:

I also wonder when Araragi will get killed by Snejougahara with all the kissing in this arc if she finds out Araragi will be in a lot of trouble.
Hopefully we will get to see that next time.

That part was omitted from this episode. It was supposed to come right after Mayoi's disappearance and had a yuri scene. Probably omitted due to time/mood whiplash.

Either way, I'm terribly depressed that we won't be seeing Araragi and Hitagi interact this season. I had been waiting for that for 16 months.... T_T


Wait, why would there be a Yuri scene, if Senjogahara found out about this (and who would be in it)? Is she trying to make him jealous? :D Is there any chance of them catching up on that the beginning of next episode?

... So there will be no Hitagi/Koyomi-interaction in Koimonogatari? D:
MrPrinceSanjiNov 17, 2013 3:28 PM
Nov 17, 2013 3:47 PM

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my second favorite character, gone, why do you hav to do this!?! if it wasn't for that loli bit would e straight 10/10 episode
Nov 17, 2013 4:12 PM

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MrPrinceSanji said:
Wait, why would there be a Yuri scene, if Senjogahara found out about this (and who would be in it)? Is she trying to make him jealous? :D Is there any chance of them catching up on that the beginning of next episode?

... So there will be no Hitagi/Koyomi-interaction in Koimonogatari? D:


I think next arc will be about Hitagi.
Nov 17, 2013 4:20 PM

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It's so sad that we have Mayoi anymore, she was one of my most favorite characters of all time, and my most favorite in the Monogatari Series... but I love that she confessed and kissed him.

But I'm really sad that we won't see her anymore...
Nov 17, 2013 5:14 PM

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even though I know she probably won't be back, I can't help hoping mayoi somehow still comes back
Nov 17, 2013 5:16 PM

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Mayoi and Araragi interactions were the most hilarious moments for me in this show but now she's gone... I will miss her a lot.
Nov 17, 2013 6:36 PM

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Why the hell am I crying?!?!
Well, at least I saw a kiss, that I swear made my nose bleed...
I feel an odd mix of sadness, happiness, and guilt for being happy.
Nov 17, 2013 6:51 PM

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I'm still crying.... Hachikuji T_T
Nov 17, 2013 6:54 PM
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Andyis said:
even though I know she probably won't be back, I can't help hoping mayoi somehow still comes back


Wrap this show up and end it, now that Mayoi is dead I no longer care (though 2 or 3 episodes of denouement is acceptable).

That said, I thought that her ending was very appropriate and touching and credit to the writer for it, but losing her really is a sign that it is time to end the series.
Nov 17, 2013 7:09 PM

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. . . Wait. Did they give this arc 4 episodes? Will we get another recap episode next week? If yes, does that mean Koimonogatari will only have 3 episodes?
Nov 17, 2013 7:11 PM

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wow really sad right now ;_; , she was so cute with her bags and twin tails
Nov 17, 2013 7:19 PM

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Andyis said:
even though I know she probably won't be back, I can't help hoping mayoi somehow still comes back


she will not come back, but
:p
Nov 17, 2013 9:27 PM

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"my absolute favorite ghost girl"

RIP Hachikuji. You will be missed.
Nov 17, 2013 9:59 PM

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Looking back, this should have been all too obvious, but it took me completely by surprise. Hindsight is 20/20. Everyone who said Hachikuji was the Fuko of Clannad should be feeling pretty embarrassed right about now.

Bye 2nd best girl. ;___;

Let's not forget that when Araragi & Mayoi first met, she tried to push him away so as not lead him astray. She is a good person. :'^(
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Nov 17, 2013 10:31 PM
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Barion-Zara said:


So for LN readers when was it that Koyomi got his shirt ripped like that when he came to save Hanekawa? I thought it was now. But seems it was during the Kanbaru mission?


This. It's gonna be explained later?
Nov 17, 2013 11:03 PM

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Well, Mayoi-chan, this will be our 'goodbye', or rather our 'see you later'? (It's just a mandatory question, I did read the LN).
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Nov 17, 2013 11:05 PM

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Wow, all I can say is wow. of the many shows this is the 1 series that almost always comes close to pushing me to tears. Hachikuji's and Koyomi's friendship (and even a little more I guess?) was always one of my favorites.

Hachikuji will be sorely missed by me, luckily Shinobu can always pick up the slack in the super moe moe/kawaii department!
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Nov 17, 2013 11:09 PM

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Aw damn i teared up then cried a little :( That kiss was actually touching since it was more of a goodbye kiss than anything. Which was suprising since i thought nothing like that would happen especially without koyomi being a perv about it.

I like Gaen.

I was totally right about the darkness as i predicted two episodes ago. I didnt guesss ithad anything to do with lies but i was right it had to do with dodities that arent supposed to be what they are.
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Nov 17, 2013 11:16 PM

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Hachikuji literally bit his tongue... :) that was clever. Nothing short of the Monogatari Series expectations!
Nov 18, 2013 2:58 AM
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Im still sad :'( hachikuji waddling side to side on top of ononoki, the crying sound she makes as she kisses araragi , DAMNIT THEM MAN TEARS ARE COMING! Sad yet beautiful, i commend this episode :')
Nov 18, 2013 3:19 AM

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MrPrinceSanji said:

One quote, which basically exemplifies all of these points: Araragi saying he wants to get lost with Hachikuji for the rest of his life. How am I supposed to take him seriously, when
a) he has a girlfriend, who he loves (but who cares about girlfriends anyway), a "partner for life" (Shinobu), that he desperately needs to save and whose salvation he would pretty much give everything for (which he just stated 2 minutes before that by the way), another girl (Hanekawa), who he basically wants to die for and 2 sisters he needs to care for
Well, when people got emotional, it is natural that he would say thing or do thing irrationally. You may not take him seriously, but I won't doubt that at the moment he said it he was serious about it. Whether he may have second thought later when he calms down is something else. The key thing that I got from the scene is that at least he really cares about Hachikuji to such an extent that he would get this irrational even though he is usually calm and clear thinking. I think this is the actual point that we should care, not whether what he said is really realistic.
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b) he says it to a 11-year-old girl, who then proceeds to kiss him and "bite his tongue" (cheeky :D)
c) all of this is presented in such an overly dramatic way, it almost makes me burst out laughing?
Well, don't forget that her body may be 11 year old, but given all the years she spent being the snail, her mental age is far from 11 year old any more.

And is the presentation overly dramatic?? I actually think it is done in pretty subdued manner, and consistent with how NisiOisiN has done with Monogatari series so far. So it is a bit unfortunate you felt the opposite which resulted in the opposite reaction of what we experienced (laughing instead of crying)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 18, 2013 5:53 AM

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at the end of these last two arcs hints have been dropped that ougi is somehow responsible...just what is she? is she really meme's niece? she's so fucking creepy i don't know how araragi isn't picking up on any of this. i dont read the light novels so i have so idea how this will play out but I'm excited to see what part ougi plays in the rest of this season and the final season whenever is gets made.

also RIP hachikuji...i kept expecting araragi to find some alternative method but it never happened and a part of me still doesn't believe it. no more come from behind pedo attacks...no more "arararagi-san" :'(
Nov 18, 2013 6:17 AM

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All this season is a unique story that gonna take climax in the last 5 episodes. I want to believe that Araragi is gonna do something to bring back Hachikuji (He said the Hachikuji's death only to Ougi, it's a trap!
Nov 18, 2013 6:47 AM

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kuuurt said:
tankoubon-feind said:
at the end of these last two arcs hints have been dropped that ougi is somehow responsible...just what is she?

She's a he, I think. Also, he's/she's a huge fucking shit.

Kidding aside Putting the harsh truth aside,


Ougi is the best 'girl' ever after Gahara.
Nov 18, 2013 7:08 AM
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I was never too much into hachikuji, but that was a pretty sad and moving chapter. It also came out of left field because I thought it was going to be all about Shinobu. Well played indeed by the writer.
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Nov 18, 2013 7:58 AM

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Dem feels...
Dem darkness...
Dem lies...
Dem passing on...
Dem tongue bite...

DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMN YOU, NISIO!
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MY MAYOI. NOOOOO NOOOO NOOOOOOOOO. FUCK NISHIO ISSIN. FUCK SHAFT. FUCK MONOGATARI SERIES.

Seriously though, 10/10. Will watch this episode again and again continuously for 20 years.
Nov 18, 2013 8:57 AM

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Just finished watching this ep for the 6th time.
I still feel sad at the end.
Hachikuji has been my fav since bakemonogatari, and this ep is just too much.
and the OST is so good, especially the part after hachikuji said 'Italian shinsi'
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Nov 18, 2013 11:17 AM

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damn..been a while since the last time i cried watching this series.. before, it were tears of happiness (bakemonogatari ep 12), now it's the opposite. She's my #3 fav Monogatari character, and her interactions with koyomi were always entertaining..

that "kamimashita" really hit me hard.


and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'|
Nov 18, 2013 12:09 PM
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Gonna miss Mayoi stuttering "arararagi-kun. shitsurei kamimashita!" That was pretty good kiss from a loli. I laughed pretty pretty hard when it happened too.






Nov 18, 2013 12:18 PM

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*through crying* Goodbye,Hachikuji Mayoi.
Nov 18, 2013 3:04 PM

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bittersweet ending for this arc :'( totally gonna miss mayoi..

quick question (the answer is possibly a spoiler),
by the end of the tsubasa tiger's arc you see how araragi clothes has been torn like he was just fighting a strong enemy..

I thought whoever he was fighting would be revealed in this arc.. guess not..

so what arc will explain that event? I take it, it's not hanamonogatari since timeline wise, hanamonogatari is not gonna happen until much later
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kuuurt said:
mugi said:
Finally

I was about to post this myself. Now I finally understood what that video meant.

Same here.

Great emotional conclusion to this arc, I will miss Mayoi, I teared up a bit 5/5. I still don't like Shinbou

I'm more than hyped for Koimonogatarai, I can't fucking wait <3
Nov 18, 2013 3:30 PM
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Had to stop myself from crying a couple times. Goodbye Hachikuji.
Nov 18, 2013 4:08 PM
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No no no no no no! Don't take Hachikuji away ! Bring her back, god damn it !!!!
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Nov 18, 2013 4:27 PM

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yukaru00 said:

Ougi is the best 'girl' ever after Gahara.

-What?! Are you saying that Araragi..... explain yourself!
Nov 18, 2013 5:21 PM

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FalKKonE said:
No no no no no no! Don't take Hachikuji away ! Bring her back, god damn it !!!!
Really, man.
"You never know you got something very important until you lost it."

This happens to me.
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KingIkki said:
FalKKonE said:
No no no no no no! Don't take Hachikuji away ! Bring her back, god damn it !!!!
Really, man.
"You never know you got something very important until you lost it."

This happens to me.


But I knew it since the very beginning ! It's so unfair. Anime. Life! Life in Anime !!
w8 wat
kcuf
Nov 18, 2013 7:32 PM

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I never thought that this show would make me cry. Very, very sad.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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