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Nov 16, 2013 7:24 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE LIGHT NOVEL BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Gaeeen.

Decent episode. I liked the conclusion of this arc. Aww, that was a tearful goodbye definitely from Mayoi. DAT OST. No Shinobu OP though...:(

Anyways yeah, I'm ready for the next arc. Oop, I spotted Araragi getting a kiss from Mayoi as well.
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Nov 16, 2013 9:03 AM
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Nov 16, 2013 9:54 AM

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God.. What an episode.. I'm speechless...
that last word after "the scene" really made me cry "shitsurei kamimasta.. daisuki desta yo.. araragi-san.." :"" really cry here.. :""
and araragi last word "sayonara... hachikuji mayoi.. .."
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"My name is Kissshot-Acerolaorion-Heartunderblade...... the iron-blooded, hot-blooded, cold-blooded vampire."
 
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Nov 16, 2013 10:41 AM

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When I read the LN I took this as even more shocking than Nadeko becoming a goddess, and I still think it is.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Nov 16, 2013 11:35 AM

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that happy bite in instrumental T.T
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Nov 16, 2013 5:41 PM

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The way that was executed was just...I am speechless.

I just wish some asshole wouldn't have spoiled that for me and a lot of us weeks ago, to think the impact could have been even greater.
 
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Nov 16, 2013 6:01 PM
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Well I cried....yup too sad
She was definitely one of my favorite characters.
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Nov 16, 2013 6:03 PM
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That departure. All those feels.

daisuki deshita yo
Dunno why but I love that wording.

 
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Nov 16, 2013 6:05 PM

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Yeah...I think this is the first time I cried in this series...Hachikuji is my favorite character...
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:08 PM

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FUUUUU...
even though she wasnt my favourite character, it was heartbreaking T_T
fking ninjas cutting onions

EDIT: is it just me or does now every member of araragis harem graduate from his harem?

hanekawa: accepting her dark side, becoming a normal person, views araragi now as a friend, not as a prince
nadeko: always lieing to herself and her surroundings, in the end become an insane god, despising herself and araragi (i know it will be settled in hitagi end arc)
mayoi: let herself go, to protect everyone including araragi

we have yet to see the "graduation" of his sister and kanbaru (there is still a tsuhiki arc and suruga devil arc)
i hope at least gahara stays with him, otherwise it will be too cruel
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Nov 16, 2013 6:18 PM

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This episode took my feels wrapped them into a ball and shot them into the trash.



 
Nov 16, 2013 6:26 PM
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Just like Araragi, I was on the verge of crying ;~;
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:31 PM

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Nov 16, 2013 6:38 PM

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mugi said:
Finally

I was about to post this myself. Now I finally understood what that video meant.

"Sorry, I bit your tongue."

"I loved you, Araragi-san."

GOD DAMN IT ;_;
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:40 PM
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ugh well I'm going to be sad for a while T-T
Like I knew it was going to happen due to the person who spoiled it but god i didn't expect it so fast. Was not ready >.<
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:43 PM

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I cried so much , I didn't expect this at all :(
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:48 PM

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So it was on purpose...the whole time :( Goodbye mayoi so weird Main cast keeps getting thinner !
 
Nov 16, 2013 6:51 PM

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;_; During the goodbye scene I thought about about the first time they met.] and it made me even sadder.
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Nov 16, 2013 7:03 PM

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So Shinobu Time is about Mayoi at the end, just like Mayoi Kyonshee is in fact about Shinobu at the end.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Nov 16, 2013 7:04 PM

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What a spectacular episode. And I couldn't think of a better way for Hachikuji to go out than with that kiss and line (although not having her pass on would be infinitely better). Hopefully she comes back in some shape or form later on. This season just continues to get better and better. Bravo Shaft.
 
Nov 16, 2013 7:25 PM

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I cried a lot with this ep :'( I wanna hug hachikuji >.<
 
Nov 16, 2013 7:29 PM

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I don't know what to say.I will just stay silent and wipe tears.



Fuck.
 
Nov 16, 2013 7:33 PM

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Such a sad episode. While hearing Araragi and Hachikuji saying their goodbyes while the piano plays in the background made things 100 times more sad. Almost shed a tear!!

One of my favorite characters in the show is out of the picture now. :(
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Nov 16, 2013 7:39 PM
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Hope we dont get a recap next episode =_= also whats the name of the next arc?
 
Nov 16, 2013 7:41 PM

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Episode of the week for me.

Came so close to tears during Mayoi's goodbye.

She was one of my personal favourites on this show. Sucks so hard to see her disappear! </3


 
Nov 16, 2013 7:52 PM

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I feel it coming but HACHIKUJI!!!!!WHY!!!!!!T_T

Dat kiss,I thought it was a sweet/perfect way for Hachikuji to say goodbye to Koyomi T_T.

Dat last scene with Ougi.
"Anyways,I kept Hachikuji's disappearance a secret from everyone.Let's see how telling Ougi,and Ougi alone,affects things."
Hmm,wonder just how only Ougi knowing will affect the story in the future?Serious need to know what she is?

"Goodbye Hachikuji Mayoi.I was happy I met you." Same here.

This episode was so great,I can only wonder what's going to happen during the finale of this season.

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Nov 16, 2013 8:22 PM

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tomtomr92 said:
Hope we dont get a recap next episode =_= also whats the name of the next arc?

The next arc's probably going to be Koimonogatari. It'll focus on Senjougahara and Nadeko, as far as I know. Also, recap episode next week, I'm sorry.
 
Nov 16, 2013 8:25 PM

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Hachikuji's my favorite Araragi-girl so I dreaded the coming of this arc. Then when I heard that piano version of Kaerimichi, I realized this was it.

I cried so much T_____T

Someone hold me *sniff*

dammit I need to watch a healing anime now...
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Nov 16, 2013 8:34 PM

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I never expected that I would get this sad over Hachikuji passing on and that kiss/confession. ;-;
 
Nov 16, 2013 8:43 PM

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Dat kiss. Goodbye Hachikuji Mayoi.
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Nov 16, 2013 8:47 PM

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kuuurt said:
tomtomr92 said:
Hope we dont get a recap next episode =_= also whats the name of the next arc?

The next arc's probably going to be Koimonogatari. It'll focus on Senjougahara and Nadeko, as far as I know. Also, recap episode next week, I'm sorry.

Ummm.......Kaiki?
 
Nov 16, 2013 8:56 PM

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Beautiful episode. 5/5
And another kiss. The dialogue was amazing.
 
Nov 16, 2013 9:24 PM

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MOTHERFU-- WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE SOONER!?

OUGI YOU FUCKING BITCH

FUCK!

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Nov 16, 2013 9:36 PM

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Since this arc just ended, does anybody know if they next episode is going to be a recap? They seem to be popping up with annoying frequency this season.
 
Nov 16, 2013 9:45 PM

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Since this arc just ended, does anybody know if they next episode is going to be a recap? They seem to be popping up with annoying frequency this season.

Every arc's gonna have a recap, as far as I know. It will be another week of suffering before you get to see Senjougahara.
 
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kuuurt said:
MOTHERFU-- WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE SOONER!?

OUGI YOU FUCKING BITCH

FUCK!

http://i.picpar.com/Fc0.jpg
kuuurt said:
MOTHERFU-- WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE SOONER!?

OUGI YOU FUCKING BITCH

FUCK!

http://i.picpar.com/Fc0.jpg


Please explain? I'm lost.. is that Nadeko too?
 
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GateLambda said:
Please explain? I'm lost.. is that Nadeko too?

http://i.picpar.com/Pc0.jpg
Is it clearer now? If not, I'll be straight. NISIOOOOOOOOOO's probably hinting that Ougi had something to do with the darkness. She probably is the darkness, worst case scenario.
 
Nov 16, 2013 10:10 PM

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Wow. What an episode. I'm stunned...

Could anyone please tell me what song played during araragi and hachikuji's last conversation? Especially the piano piece when she said "I bit your tongue". That was utterly crushing.
 
Nov 16, 2013 10:11 PM
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Interesting episode. Gaen knows lots of things. The dark was explained. Her explanation of Shinobu's sin was interesting: her sin was not she acted like a deity but she pretended to be a deity without becoming one. Also interesting was *being mistaken* itself was regarded as a sin in the Monogatari world. The parting scene was beautifully done. That kiss reminded me of the Railroad Man. Ogi's remark was intriguing. Her job is punish liars. Maybe she works for the dark or she is the dark itself.
 
Nov 16, 2013 10:20 PM
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NarkolepticNinja said:
Wow. What an episode. I'm stunned...

Could anyone please tell me what song played during araragi and hachikuji's last conversation? Especially the piano piece when she said "I bit your tongue". That was utterly crushing.


im pretty sure it was just an instrumental version of her opening.

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IN fact after re watching that part i am 100% sure lol
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Nov 16, 2013 10:31 PM

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That. Was. BRILLIAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNT!

They went above and beyond in portraying Hachikuji's more darker and tragic role in the grand scheme of things. They didn't just steer away from the "happy end" syndrome, Nisio fucking beat it on the skull till the white meat showed. Which is one of the themes of this season that honestly almost flew over my head.

Goddammit, Hachikuji is SO my favorite now.
 
Nov 16, 2013 10:34 PM
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when that that piano kicked in playing hachikuji's op i lost it, what an episode
 
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TT____TT That was unexpected, I was expecting the darkness to be combated, and to think it resolved with Hachikuji taking it onto her own shoulders.... :'(
Just can't get over it, that emotion and execution just hit hard
 
Nov 16, 2013 10:45 PM
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I didn't really have many thoughts on this series as a whole but this episode just blew me away. Hachikuji's appearances were probably my favourite parts of the series but when Gaen called her out and she ran to Araragi my heart just sank. Didn't think that I would feel this emotional but their final dialogue along with the music and overall direction really had an impact on me.
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Nov 16, 2013 11:02 PM

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Fuuuuuu!!! Hachikuji!!!!

I'm not crying,I'm just sweating through my eyes T_T
 
Nov 16, 2013 11:07 PM

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Oh look. People who were disgusted by Araragi's lolicon tendency previously are weeping because of Hachikuji.
 
Nov 16, 2013 11:10 PM

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Grouchio: Attempt to watch MSSS 20.

Your attempt is a decisive failure. You're currently too bitter for anything like that for another week or so.

But I will say this:

"One Competitor Down." -Hitagi, probably.
 
Nov 16, 2013 11:44 PM

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FUCK YOU SHAFT, FUCK YOU AND YOUR PERFECT WAY TO ADAPT SHIT.

No seriously, although I knew what was gonna happen from the start, I didn't expect it to happen like this. I mean, not that I didn't know what was gonna happen, just that...

You know what, fuck it. This was perfect, as most Monogatari arc finales anyway. 5/5

Ougi, I hope you burn in a pithole.

 
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yukaru00 said:
Oh look. People who were disgusted by Araragi's lolicon tendency previously are weeping because of Hachikuji.

No, I'm still disgusted.

I liked the episode and I'm glad there was no deus ex machina at the end. It was interesting to see that there was a "enforcer" for the oddities and that if they reneged from their nature, it prompted their destruction, or at least correction. I guess that makes Hachikuji an odd oddity. Anyway, the poignancy of her departure aside, the ending was also good because of the suspicions it raised of Ougi. Although I do doubt she's the "darkness". I question the extent of it's cognizance because of how it indiscriminately kills anything else alive close to the deviant oddity. I figure if it was in some way sentient or a sentient being, it'd be more precise.
 
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Brilliant episode! This season has been mind blowing. Absolutely stunned by how good this has been. Mayoi ;_;...Dat kiss <3

Ougi being/related the Darkness was O_O! Shit!! How did I not notice it???

So for LN readers when was it that Koyomi got his shirt ripped like that when he came to save Hanekawa? I thought it was now. But seems it was during the Kanbaru mission?

Well anyway that was so good! Everytime I say best ep and the next one beats it. I'm amazed!
 
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