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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Heh, a school festival. I must admit, the girls looked cool in their outfits. On the other hand, there's Yuki in his girly outfit lol Momoji is also back (he made an appearance in one of the previous episodes) and is so playful to watch. That rabbit form though. Also really glad the episode featured more of Arisa and Saki spending time with Tohru. |
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| Why is it always that ominous phone call at the end of the episode xD Also i wanna see more of Arisa. |
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| Tohru has some good friends. Yuki in that dress lol. |
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| Great episode again. Very emotional and moving, Tohru is such a wonderful girl and she's got amazing friends. :) Is Soma the guy from the Tohru's childhood? I loved the scene with Tohru sleeping between her friends. That phone call at the end. :( |
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| It's so confusing how everyone says Yuki looks like a girl when he just doesn't... at all (seriously, if there's gonna be jokes like that at least make the guy look even vaguely feminine). Momiji looks much more like a girl, so hearing that he's actually a boy completely caught me off guard. Also, I'm absolutely certain that the boy in Tohru's flashback will be either Kyo or Yuki; I've seen this kind of trope enough that it's blatantly obvious where it's going to go. |
| Yuki in a dress.......I'm not surprised that he feels partly humiliated while wearing it, but when he unleashed his charm offensive to distract the other students when Momiji screwed things up, both male and female students blushed like crazy. Props to the dude on the left for his nosebleed, though. XD I liked the scene with Tohru as she explained to Uo and Hana about how she acquired the worn-looking hat from the mysterious kid in her past. You can tell just how close and inseparable Tohru's bond is with Uo and Hana. =) Once again, the ominous phone call comes along at the end of the episode, with Hatori calling Tohru and requesting her to visit him alone on her next school day off. I'm looking forward to seeing how they adapt this part of the story. =) |
| Reading @thebond_thecurse I think I made a good decision when I chose not to re-read the manga a little before the anime started. Can't miss the details if I don't remember them. lol But reading what you say about the sparrows I definitely agree with you. Other than that I enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed the previous ones (minus Kagura's episode, I find her kinda annoying) and I think the anime is going well so far. Hopefully it will only get better. |
| The creepy kid is back. I like him better as a rabbit. Yuki gave a guy a nosebleed. His charm doesn't care about gender, I guess. The protagonist's friends are kind of annoying, but not as annoying as the friends of the protagonists from Shounen Jump, so I will wait for them to get more interesting. The story about the hat was a bit too much. The characters are still young, so they don't need a past connection—that goes back to when they were children—just to fall in love. Still waiting to know why the supernatural element is important because I like magic more than romance. |
| Shigure: "Macaroni and..." Yuki & Kyo: "Cheese?" Shigure snaps picture! LOL! That part cracked me up so much! Good episode. I've always liked Hana(the wave girl) the most and it was nice to see more of her. |
| "You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
thebond_thecurse said: I also found the "I know I always ask for the moon" translation in the sub (don't know about the dub) to be less appropriate for the character than the TP manga translation of "I am well aware when my glass is half empty." I have no idea what the line is in the Japanese of the anime or in the Japanese of manga, or if they are different between them, or which translation might be more accurate ... but still, in my opinion the subbed line in the anime adaptation makes less sense. I think they were just trying to tie it into the line that Yuki says about Tohru not asking for the moon. I haven’t got a chance to watch the dub yet, the sub came up on the apps faster, but the Yen Press translation is “What can I say? I want the moon.” For me, the moon lines work because they tie into the line about Tohru, and I think that makes more sense, due to Actually I kinda enjoy that there are so many different interpretations, it allows for lots of different views on things. |
| This show just keeps getting better and better and keep in mind I didn't watched Fruits Basket 2001. Tohru has some solid bestfriends Uo-chan and Hana-chan! 5/5. |
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| I remember my first time reading furuba as a kid I didnt like yuki very much until towards the end, and now he's quickly become my favorite character |
GummyShoesMay 10, 2019 12:33 PM
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| "Macaronic and... Cheese!" rip Yuki in his princess outfit |
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| "I always ask for the moon" implies that he's greedy as hell. "I am well aware when my glass is half empty" does NOT imply greed, by rather than his situation is garbage and he knows that. The implications are very different. And I would prefer whichever one is more CORRECT to the author's intention, which would simply be whichever one the Japanese audio SAYS since the mangaka is overseeing this anime pretty heavily. I'd have to listen again later to confirm what is actually said and figure out the intent. Intent is the most important aspect of localizing. Also, when the hell did Tohru meet Momiji before? I don't remember that at all... |
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| Well I guess that's not only me whom after all episodes is voting 10 in all polls. That was another nicely done beautiful episode. Ah and this litte mystery at the end of it... can't wait for next one! |
| The Young Noble of the Field is currently watching - Diamond no Ace: Act II Misugi-kun is also reading - Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| The pacing felt so off to me, like info dumping and not focusing much on either Tohru's friends or Hatori/keeping the secret. It lightly passed both of them by. Finally nice to see the hat introduced but I hope the pacing fixes itself later... Atavistic said: It's so confusing how everyone says Yuki looks like a girl when he just doesn't... at all (seriously, if there's gonna be jokes like that at least make the guy look even vaguely feminine). Momiji looks much more like a girl, so hearing that he's actually a boy completely caught me off guard. To be fair I think it's the art style they're going with for the anime. He's more boyish-looking here than the sleek, delicate way he's actually drawn in the manga/the 2001 version. |
| I guess it's a good thing and not a bad thing, but having read the whole manga I keep getting hit by the feels train when little bits of foreshadowing are shown in these early episodes. It makes sense, since when we get the whole story it has a pretty big impact. |
rodacMay 10, 2019 1:34 PM
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| such a good episode. very emotional but also happy. we finally got the meaning behind the hat! the boy that gave tohru the hat looks a lot like yuki....hmmmm..... again with the ominous phone calls! hatori is pretty shady so far....kinda scared of what he's gonna do. |
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Once you'll learn about him... well, without spoiling much but all I can say is that Momiji was the only character in the manga and 2001 anime to make me cry. Best boy. He seems childish but he is actually very mature and extremely kind. Also, the most popular quote from Fruits Basket fandom is his. Very deep. |
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| That was really enjoyable and wholesome episode |
| Watashi wa a victim of cyberbullying. Everyday someone online calls me a "weeb" desu. Watashi won't stand for this. 26 percent of bullying victims are chosen due to their race or religion desu. I may look like a basic white boy, but deep down I am Nihongo desu. Watashi religion is anime. Anata wa bullying me because of my race and religion desu ka? Disgusting desu. Anata should be ashamed of yourself, racist pig. A baka gaijin like anata is probably jealous of my race and culture, cause Nippon is more sugoi than your shitty country desu. Watashi pity anata. You'll never be Nihongo like watashi. Educate yourself on nani a "weeb" is. |
| They're nailing the comedic timing, like that macaroni and cheese part. Also, Hana-chan is as amazing as always. I'd even call her the natural enemy of the Somas. I remember the story behind the hat really well and if you look closely it's pretty easy to see who it was. The story from "the owner of the hats" point of view will also be great! |
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| Fruits Basket is pretty much the only anime I prefer to watch dubbed and I have to say, Momiji's voice in the new dub is absolutely atrocious. I know in the manga he is supposed to be part German, but if you're going to do a German accent, at least try to do a good one or don't do it at all. I actually really liked the way Momiji's voice sounded in the 2001 dub and I thought it made him really cute and carefree. But this new voice is god awful. It really sounds nothing like an actual German accent and I really worried this is going to make the episodes covering Momiji's backstory unbearable. Which sucks, because those episodes really touched me in the 2001 anime. Also, the whole sleepover with Hana and Uo was kinda rushed and not as enjoyable as I was hoping and overall I think they tried cramming way too much in this episode. |
| “May those who accept their fate be granted Happiness, may those who defy their fate be granted Glory.” |
| Poor Yuki, being forced to wear a dress haha! That moment with him and Tohru on the roof was so cute though! I've tried to decide whether i'm a Kyo fan or Yuki fan but i honestly can't choose; both boys are so sweet and thoughtful and charming! |
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| That Hatori is really rude threatening our poor Tohru like that... |
| I don't know how I feel about Momiji yet but I'm glad we got more of Tohru's friends (Arisa definitely best girl) |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| Next episode is gonna be wild, just can't wait >< |
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thebond_thecurse said: Kougeru said: I would prefer whichever one is more CORRECT to the author's intention, which would simply be whichever one the Japanese audio SAYS But you can't determine the author's intention just from the Japanese - the Japanese can be/is vague and open to interpretation. The phrases "want the moon" and "glass half-empty" are both idiomatic localizations, the Japanese phrase isn't necessarily equivalent to either one, but both could theoretically work as a way of translating it. You would have to arrive at the best understanding of the author's intent by knowing the full story and coming to your own conclusion based on that about the meaning of early lines in relationship to future plots and characterization. But that's not typically how translation can be done. There are a lot of ways you could translate the original Japanese phrase - which is "無いものねだりさ”. So I'm basing my opinion that the sub translation isn't as good as the TokyoPop or Yen Press translations on my knowledge of and interpretation of the story going forward. But that will be different for everyone. It's impossible to ever fully know the author's intent, especially in a story that is as literary and vague, chock full of metaphors and double-meanings, in its writing as Takaya makes "Fruits Basket". So yeah, those are my 3 takes/interpretations and reasoning for my preferences with each translation. Other people will have different interpretations and preferences, which I think are just as valid. These are just mine, since the line in Japanese is vague & Takaya has not come out and said her intent. My bad, like I said I hadn't actually listened to the JP line so I wasn't aware of what kind of sentence it was. This stuff drives me insane about languages. I wish there was a way more clear way we could receive the author's intent. |
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| Carrot...? I'm not sure what his nicknames were in the previous adaption or the manga but that just sounds so off putting when he's literally being called orange and they're talking about each other's hair color. |
| OMG, Hatori looks so handsome!!! And Momiji has green pupils. O_o This time they adapted chapters 9 and 7, and it came out pretty good. Uotani and Hanajima visiting Shigure's house was funny in the old anime, but this is true to the manga. Can't decide which version I like more. Next episode might be chapters 10 and 12, like they did in the old anime, and it makes sense because they are both about I think they should stick to the 2 chapters pro episode thing, or else this anime will be veeery long. If they do 2 ch pro 1 ep, 3 seasons of 24-26 episodes should do it. Even that would be really rare for a shoujo anime nowadays, so I think expecting more episodes/seasons would be silly. Btw, I don't like that they changed the scene with Yuki and Kyo in the morning, before Hanajima says they are like Tom & Jerry. In the manga it was funnier. And I don't like how they drew that boy with the cap, it's totally obvious who it is and in the manga it was drawn to be ambiguous. Also, like I said before, this Yuki doesn't look androgynous, so he looks weird in the dress. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Episode 8 might be ch 11 only, or 11 + something and then episode 9 will probably be ch 13+14 because they are connected and both about That should be funny. Episode 10 should be funny too because and will probably be ch 15 + 16 (or only 15?). Then episode 11 might be ch 17 + 18 because they are about That should be funny too. Episode 12 could be ch 19 + 20 since they are both about and episode 13 could be ch 21 + 22 since they are both connected and about which should be funny too. And somewhere around here I hope for a new opening and ending with more Souma people included in both! :3 |
SailorVekiMay 11, 2019 4:15 PM
| Waiting for Gundam SEED Movie..... (ಥ‿ಥ) Waiting for Sailor Moon Cosmos..... o(≧▽≦)o |
| A heartwarming episode! The festival was nice, especially because Momiji and Hatori were introduced. Momiji did something really impulsive by hugging Tooru like that, but it worked out because it seems Yuki is the master of using his beauty for distraction. lol The way Hatori took a photo of him and Kyou was nice too, just like Yuki's talk about being 'kawaii' with Tooru. Though it was also poignant because Tooru realized her mother will never be able to say that she is 'kawaii' again. Hana-chan and Uo-chan finally know that she is living with the Soumas, and honestly I didn't even remember that Shigure was an author. But their visit was great, they could see that both Kyou and Yuki understand her, and that she is happy there. Her memory about that hat she keeps was nice too. Well, Tooru has a meeting with Hatori coming up! |
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| *inhales* MOMOJIIIIIIIIIII AND HIS SEIYUU IS THE SAME AS GON’S YES. I could understand “ein Mädchen”, so I guess my 4 German lessons payed off! Yuki was amazing this episode, I’m starting to like him more & more even after finishing the manga. Nobunaga Shimazaki saying “kawaii” over and over, ugh I’m in love. Kyo was great as always, I laughed a lot at the cannibalism joke. And Tohru is just that—Tohru. Can’t wait to see more of Hana and Uo. The boy with the cap scene felt way too obvious, even if I didn’t know who it was just the way he was drawn felt like a giant spoiler. The conversation the three girls had about him was interesting though. Hatori looks and sounds just as how I imagined him, I’m so glad him and Shigure have different hair colours because it was really difficult to tell who it was in the manga at times... or maybe it’s just because I’m a dumbass. Ugh, I think next episode will end up being my least favourite so far.... solely because of Akito. I HATED Akito until the last couple of chapters, so if we have to see Akito’s manipulative & psychotic side next episode then I don’t know how I’ll react. The voice actor sounds fairly good from what I’ve heard, though. |
GlowingAuraMay 10, 2019 5:29 PM
| That hat backstory was kinda dumb. It's so statistically unlikely that it would be Yuki or Kyo despite that heavy foreshadowing that it is. It also just makes no sense. Like why tf would kid Yuki ever lead this random girl back to her house. Maybe there's something more here but idk. The pacing was kinda fast with the friends thing. The "why did you lie to us" into "she doesn't need us" into "wow she really loves us" could have definitely been a full episode. I get the feeling all the of Soma's are gonna be eccentric people based on what we've seen so far. |
ProofByColor said: That hat backstory was kinda dumb. It's so statistically unlikely that it would be Yuki or Kyo despite that heavy foreshadowing that it is. It also just makes no sense. Like why tf would kid Yuki ever lead this random girl back to her house. Maybe there's something more here but idk. The hat backstory gets explained towards the end of the series, trust me it makes a lot more sense when it is. It’s connected to major parts of some of the characters’ backstories. |
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