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Feb 4, 2016 4:51 AM
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Sakuya~

That almost felt like watching a play but in a fantasy dream world. Classic stuff although I think the episode felt kinda fillerish. Kakeru's actions this episode seems a bit menacing especially at what he's about to do to himself. Well, this episode felt more thrilling some of the others. Koharu's quite daring to make that jump tbh without any concern for her own safety. The embrace though...I didn't think it was that surprising.
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Feb 4, 2016 4:54 AM
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The girls are deep in thought because all their guys wanting to be ignored or ignoring them. Yusa-san's character using his power to get them to a "dream world" with the outfit of the stories: Little Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, and Snow White to find someone they love, feat. other guys and the hiyokos as other characters, and with twists!

Ah, kuudere character erased his memory, including someone he considered important... The forest remembering him of when he blamed her. One of the girls is in rush and seeing Yusa-san's character as someone she likes, and that long hair guy is shocked.

Attack comes back?
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Feb 4, 2016 7:37 AM
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I was waiting for the AkiNana moments of this episode.

Why did they erase so many important moments of the game, I'm a little disappointed because of that... They even erased a CG of Akito's route that was in the game...

If they had not done that, I would be even more happier with this episode :c
Feb 4, 2016 9:02 AM
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Great episode, I'm satisfied, overall they handled the dream sequence pretty well imo.


Dunno about some expecting a complete VN adaption, cuz that not gonna happen.
Anime adaption of VN will always leave stuff out, shouldn't it motivate people
to buy and play the game to get the complete experience, if the haven't?
Feb 4, 2016 9:50 AM
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@fuyutaiyou at least they have some scenes of your fav pairing, it feels like forever waiting for some sort of interaction between the OP's hinted gun guy & Mikoto... So far we just have strong Sakuya and Mikoto. I wonder if he'll become yandere next episode lol. next episode looks like it'll still follow the Sakuya route, with Mikoto getting kidnapped. MIKOTO PLEASE GET THROWN OFF SOON ;-;
Feb 4, 2016 1:21 PM
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I guess Mikoto will end up with Sakuya. It wouldn't make sense for her to end up with Natsuhiko after all these developments with Sakuya. Plus the preview for next episode shows they'll still follow the Sakuya route.

I just noticed that in the OP Natsuhiko disappears. That's probably another clue that they won't end up together.
Feb 4, 2016 1:24 PM
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The girls were having a dream to find their important person in their own fairy tale.
Feb 4, 2016 2:18 PM
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Even though the episode was out of nowhere, pretty girls in their dreams are pretty!

My most favourite couple so far is Nanami x Akito. And least favourite is Koharu x Kakeru.
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ayyyyyyyyyyyyy [SHIPPING INTENSIFIES]
Its sad that i really dont like Koharu tho. She annoys the fuck out of me most of the time.
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Feb 4, 2016 2:23 PM

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What the heck was this episode, I didn't expect this.
I still don't ship anything, these characters are so hard to like.
The previews for next week make it look like it next episode might be good, anyway.
Feb 4, 2016 2:50 PM

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I still don't ship anything, these characters are so hard to like.


That, and I'm worried the actual plot will kick in while everyone's still hung up on their friggin backstories. 12 episodes isn't enough for angst of this magnitude.

Did think the cinderella "ending" was interesting, though.
Feb 4, 2016 2:50 PM
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This episode felt useless imo. And I'm still not a big fan of the characters in this series.

2/5
Feb 4, 2016 2:53 PM

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This episode felt like a filler







Feb 4, 2016 2:56 PM

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Wasn't bad but still disappointed by this episode. The Dream Sequence is very nearly my favorite part of every route, showing Itsuki (and another character) at their very best, but it became a more shallow retelling of the romance aspects, only. None of what propelled it. It still was very cool looking and dreamy, showing more sides of the other two heroines and their pairs but. It could have been so much more.

R.I.P.
Feb 4, 2016 3:01 PM

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Eh, I really didn't enjoy this episode. Oh and Koharu is still unlikeable .
Feb 4, 2016 4:11 PM

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Koharu is annoying af. But I really wanna play the game now.
Feb 4, 2016 4:23 PM

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Koharu and Kakeru were so unlikeable in this episode.
Feb 4, 2016 5:16 PM

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Nice kiss between Koharu and Kakeru was cute. I don't know how to day this, but Koharu is slow.
Feb 4, 2016 5:25 PM

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Alright episode. Some good Nanami and Akito moments, though, and Kakeru seems to be showing a bit of his true colors.
Feb 4, 2016 5:32 PM
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Eh, I enjoyed it. I still feel like I'm missing something in Kakeru's character, though. He kinda seems like a default character with a tragic backstory, and I'm not feeling any connection to the decisions he makes at all.
Feb 4, 2016 7:36 PM

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dropped. not watching this trash any longer.
Feb 4, 2016 8:25 PM

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This episode felt like a filler
Other than knowing about Itsuki's power and the girl's romance background, or likely so, I think yeah it's a Filler.
Sooo... Based on the girls dream Mikoto's having a Triangle love, Nanami's dream-related is about how she see Akito in real life : Tsundere(?) or maybe Yandere(?). And then Koharu... I think that Koharu's the only one that had a "Good" dream.

After that talk about Poison apple, could be that Kakeru's the traitor or something like that?
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Feb 4, 2016 9:17 PM
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The fact that people are throwing around the word filler for this episode just boggles my mind.....

We get a big ass episode filled with decent characterization, foreshadowing and romance progression, and yet this episode is classified as being filler, useless and random

Gotta love MAL Forums lol
Feb 4, 2016 9:38 PM

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I am expecting a Sakuya x Mikoto pairing after this. Please make the opening sequences be a lie. I hate that gun guy. Hmph.
Feb 4, 2016 10:43 PM

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Everyone in a Fairy tale <333

Itsuki's dream pwers 0___0

Akito as the wolf...Died from cuteness <33
Senri AHHHHH
Masamune as the Prince OMG XDD
Otomaruas the granny LOL
Oh he;s the hunter...but Nanami became the hunter this time XD
Sakuya is the Prince <333
Keakeru is the poison apple 0___0 T___T

So Itsuki is like the Cheshire cat or something?
Feb 5, 2016 12:38 AM
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I am expecting a Sakuya x Mikoto pairing after this. Please make the opening sequences be a lie. I hate that gun guy. Hmph.


Unfortunately for you, Mikoto & the gun guy are supposed to be one of the best routes in the game. Their romance is the most sweet yet painful in the story that might leave you tears, if they properly animate it. Also, they seriously focus to much on Koharu & Kakeru, just they are the poster couple when there are so many other sweet stories.
Feb 5, 2016 3:31 AM
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Inugirlz said:
I am expecting a Sakuya x Mikoto pairing after this. Please make the opening sequences be a lie. I hate that gun guy. Hmph.


Unfortunately for you, Mikoto & the gun guy are supposed to be one of the best routes in the game. Their romance is the most sweet yet painful in the story that might leave you tears, if they properly animate it. Also, they seriously focus to much on Koharu & Kakeru, just they are the poster couple when there are so many other sweet stories.


Natsuhiko's route is better but the anime is following Sakuya's route.
Feb 5, 2016 7:18 AM

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dream powers hmmm ok
Feb 5, 2016 7:47 AM

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Natsuhiko is in the next episode \o/ I really want the anime to give us a Natsuhiko/Mikoto end.

Sakuya's route was the worst route, it was such a pain to get through.
Feb 5, 2016 8:36 AM

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Inugirlz said:
I am expecting a Sakuya x Mikoto pairing after this. Please make the opening sequences be a lie. I hate that gun guy. Hmph.


Unfortunately for you, Mikoto & the gun guy are supposed to be one of the best routes in the game. Their romance is the most sweet yet painful in the story that might leave you tears, if they properly animate it. Also, they seriously focus to much on Koharu & Kakeru, just they are the poster couple when there are so many other sweet stories.


Yeah I saw someone else's comment saying theirs is the better route. But I couldn't like him from his attitude in the first part. Like you just start shooting a defenceless girl who hasn't attacked you? IDC what he thinks. Still wanna play the game though.
Feb 5, 2016 9:15 AM

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I'm guessing this is supposed to be a dream sequence to unmask the characters and test their relationships? If that was the plan, then this was just pure FAIL.

Nothing's improved from Episode 2. Hopefully, next week's action-packed episode will up the show's game.
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Feb 5, 2016 9:27 AM
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Best episode. Very interested in all three stories, they mange build the pairings up very well. Very underrated.
Feb 5, 2016 9:49 AM

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Inugirlz said:
Yuki9786 said:


Unfortunately for you, Mikoto & the gun guy are supposed to be one of the best routes in the game. Their romance is the most sweet yet painful in the story that might leave you tears, if they properly animate it. Also, they seriously focus to much on Koharu & Kakeru, just they are the poster couple when there are so many other sweet stories.


Yeah I saw someone else's comment saying theirs is the better route. But I couldn't like him from his attitude in the first part. Like you just start shooting a defenceless girl who hasn't attacked you? IDC what he thinks. Still wanna play the game though.


then play the game. I started with the anime, found it too messy, put it on hold and played the game before picking up the anime again. I think that was definitely the right decision.
Feb 5, 2016 10:36 AM

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The exposition and development was nice, but this still felt like a really strange episode.

Still kinda wondering what the overarching point of this anime is.
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Feb 5, 2016 10:54 AM

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Really liked the fairy tail thing
Fluffy wolf LOL
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It was a nice episode, cute and trying to build on 3 relationships at once in a playful but meaningful way. All that was eclipsed by how adorable those fluffy wolf ears were though, fluffy embarassed wolf boy was legitimately my favourite thing about the episode.
Feb 5, 2016 2:58 PM
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Yeah I saw someone else's comment saying theirs is the better route. But I couldn't like him from his attitude in the first part. Like you just start shooting a defenceless girl who hasn't attacked you? IDC what he thinks. Still wanna play the game though.


SPOILER FOR WHY
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So far the anime is continuing Sakuya's route, but im thinking dynamics will change within the next two episodes, because if they showed Sakuya dropping the glass slipper, then they'll have to include a certain event from his route that singlehandedly left a very nasty aftertaste in fan's mouths.... and it will KILL his characterization if left out
Feb 5, 2016 4:27 PM

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It was a fun and enjoyable episode. It showed a lot of character development and we finally get to see some of Nanami and Akito's past. OMG Akito as a wolf was so cute!
The romance was great, when Koharu and Kakeru embraced......then kissed I fangirled so much lol I feel bad for Sakuya though, seeing Mikoto with Itsuki.....
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Inugirlz said:

Yeah I saw someone else's comment saying theirs is the better route. But I couldn't like him from his attitude in the first part. Like you just start shooting a defenceless girl who hasn't attacked you? IDC what he thinks. Still wanna play the game though.


SPOILER FOR WHY
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So far the anime is continuing Sakuya's route, but im thinking dynamics will change within the next two episodes, because if they showed Sakuya dropping the glass slipper, then they'll have to include a certain event from his route that singlehandedly left a very nasty aftertaste in fan's mouths.... and it will KILL his characterization if left out


Reply to the spoiler (which I don't mind because there's always a reason)
Feb 5, 2016 5:30 PM

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Some decisions seem so dumb, they're doing Sakuya's route yet the OP makes Mikoto and Natsuhiko the OTP. In short; they're all over the place with Mikoto's guys.
I'll never liked Kakeru that much and I find him and Masamune pretty shitty overall for Koharu so I'll only wait for the minimal Senri screentime. For Nanami, Akito was always the best route imo so that's the reason I'm not dropping the show.
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ehh, this episode probably would have been better if it was later on, because at this point i can't say i really care about any of the characters or the pairings.
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Inugirlz said:
ShiningNinja said:


SPOILER FOR WHY
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So far the anime is continuing Sakuya's route, but im thinking dynamics will change within the next two episodes, because if they showed Sakuya dropping the glass slipper, then they'll have to include a certain event from his route that singlehandedly left a very nasty aftertaste in fan's mouths.... and it will KILL his characterization if left out


Reply to the spoiler (which I don't mind because there's always a reason)




That's also why fans are hoping that he gets more screentime, he gets characterization and backstory in his route but he's just a gun-shooting rebel with 30 seconds of screentime in the rest (7/9) of them lol.
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"Little Red Riding Hood chasing the wolf..."
"Something seems to be wrong."

I just lol'd.

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This is like, the best episode yet~

I dislike Itsuki. SAKUYA X MIKOTO, DAMMIT. ITS NOT FAIR THAT SAKUYA SAW THAT AND MIKOTO WAS TRICKED AND SHIT. ;A;
And Akito <3 he's awesome. I knew he wouldn't actually try to kill Nanami :3

And lel and Kakeru being the poisoned apple... I was expecting Koharu to collapse after they kissed xD just like Snow White/Shirayuki-hime~ unfortunately she didn't e-e still don't really care about her.

Overall, this was actually a really good episode. I liked it.

And Mikoto looked absolutely GORGEOUS with that hair and dress. Like omg. She's goals.



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Filler, but good filler. I like this kind of stuff... alternative plot that reveals the characters/story in a different way.
Feb 7, 2016 9:01 AM

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The fact that people are throwing around the word filler for this episode just boggles my mind.....

We get a big ass episode filled with decent characterization, foreshadowing and romance progression, and yet this episode is classified as being filler, useless and random

Gotta love MAL Forums lol


MAL is MAL unfortunately.

This episode had some memorable lines.
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Wow took the whole episode to do the dream sequence.
Though I guess I'm glad they took the time to include everyone in the dreams and not only focus on the respective dream sequences.

(Ahhh, The Nanami & "fluffy Akito" will always make me lol no matter what)

Oh...also...interesting that the intro to the dream sequence (I mean the 'ladder game') was done in the bath....an attempt at fan service?

Inugirlz said:
Yuki9786 said:


Unfortunately for you, Mikoto & the gun guy are supposed to be one of the best routes in the game. Their romance is the most sweet yet painful in the story that might leave you tears, if they properly animate it. Also, they seriously focus to much on Koharu & Kakeru, just they are the poster couple when there are so many other sweet stories.


Yeah I saw someone else's comment saying theirs is the better route. But I couldn't like him from his attitude in the first part. Like you just start shooting a defenceless girl who hasn't attacked you? IDC what he thinks. Still wanna play the game though.
There is a reason for his "attitude". But just like every other non-Natsuhiko route (which is the angle the anime is going for at this point at time), he's supposed to be depicted as the villian/total a$$

Let's just say, Natsuhiko is equivalent to the secret-hidden-bonus-path of the games and well, sure you can get most of the plot from the other routes alone but if you want the whole picture behind the truth (meaning "hidden view") you kinda have to go the Natsuhiko route.

BTW, Miktoto x Sakuya is merely the "recommended" first route you should take among Natsuhiko's routes. IMO the "safe route" for people absolutely unfamiliar to Norn so it's no surprise the anime is going his route.....at least at first, I can totally see them throw in a bit of Natsuhiko's route later since the timeline of the events that occur in his route [relative to the other routes I mean] is....a little obscure(/not set in stone)...
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Ooh, this dream sequence was pretty interesting! Mikoto's was definitely the most interesting IMO, especially with the Itsuki ending there :O Not to mention we found out what Sakuya's "promise" was ... so he's gonna die protecting the girl he loves huh? No wonder she made him promise not to fall in love XD Koharu's was pretty meh especially with Kakeru's terribly depressing speech about being a poison apple, but they got a kiss out of it I guess. Akito with fluffy ears ... haha XD Though "it's not a dream" ... I wonder if everyone else was pulled into the dream as well? That would be interesting if that's Itsuki's "power" ... anyway, preview looks interesting. Seems like the guys who attacked earlier are back! :O
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BTW, Miktoto x Sakuya is merely the "recommended" first route you should take among Natsuhiko's routes. IMO the "safe route" for people absolutely unfamiliar to Norn so it's no surprise the anime is going his route.....at least at first, I can totally see them throw in a bit of Natsuhiko's route later since the timeline of the events that occur in his route [relative to the other routes I mean] is....a little obscure(/not set in stone)...


You're absolutely right!! and I would like to add on:
Gun Guy's route is 100% off the ship lol. That means his route is exclusively one on one time with Mikoto, and none of the 10 others appear. The anime can't really have her leave the ship and everyone else so soon yet, right? That's why they're taking advantage of her being on the ship by having her pair up with Sakuya (to fulfill parts of his route, show his prediction ability), and to have Itsuki's power shown as well to give more info about the character dynamics (episode 5's dream sequence). Otherwise they wouldnt do anything.

Episode 6 preview shows us a continuation of Sakuya's route (Mikoto getting KO-ed by the traitor), but for some reason Gun Guy shows up again (he isn't supposed to in Sakuya's route until later.... so maybe FINALLY the transition to his route?? :D) ((Also, in Akito's route, the traitor was supposed to apprehend Mikoto right after he and Nanami get the cuffs off, so IM OPTIMISTIC FOR NEXT EPISODE :DDD )..

yeah I have utterly no idea what's going on next episode and why Gun Guy is back, but i'm having tons of fun imagining scenarios from the game and trying to ignore the fact that he might just have another 30 sec cameo bombing the ship and saying cryptic things lmao
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ShiningNinja said:
Ikano said:

BTW, Miktoto x Sakuya is merely the "recommended" first route you should take among Natsuhiko's routes. IMO the "safe route" for people absolutely unfamiliar to Norn so it's no surprise the anime is going his route.....at least at first, I can totally see them throw in a bit of Natsuhiko's route later since the timeline of the events that occur in his route [relative to the other routes I mean] is....a little obscure(/not set in stone)...


You're absolutely right!! and I would like to add on:
Gun Guy's route is 100% off the ship lol. That means his route is exclusively one on one time with Mikoto, and none of the 10 others appear. The anime can't really have her leave the ship and everyone else so soon yet, right? That's why they're taking advantage of her being on the ship by having her pair up with Sakuya (to fulfill parts of his route, show his prediction ability), and to have Itsuki's power shown as well to give more info about the character dynamics (episode 5's dream sequence). Otherwise they wouldnt do anything.

Episode 6 preview shows us a continuation of Sakuya's route (Mikoto getting KO-ed by the traitor), but for some reason Gun Guy shows up again (he isn't supposed to in Sakuya's route until later.... so maybe FINALLY the transition to his route?? :D) ((Also, in Akito's route, the traitor was supposed to apprehend Mikoto right after he and Nanami get the cuffs off, so IM OPTIMISTIC FOR NEXT EPISODE :DDD )..

yeah I have utterly no idea what's going on next episode and why Gun Guy is back, but i'm having tons of fun imagining scenarios from the game and trying to ignore the fact that he might just have another 30 sec cameo bombing the ship and saying cryptic things lmao


If they don't switch to Natsuhiko's route soon, I'm going to be so let down. :(
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