| Site Guidelines With the new batch of moderators coming in, we took the opportunity to update the Site & Forum Guidelines prior to their arrival. These updates include: Rule I.7 We have added a new rule to the General Site Guidelines section: Do not post moderator PMs on the site or otherwise bait/harass/abuse MAL's staff; mods are users, too. It has become increasingly common for some users to post moderator PMs on the site and openly mock their content. The staff doesn't post private messages from users; however, it seems that some users cannot extend this consideration back the other way and so we have now added it to the guidelines. If you have a problem with how a situation was handled, then please reply to the moderator. If you don't receive an answer you can reasonably understand, then please message another forum moderator or myself. Posting moderator PMs solves nothing, only creates tension and encourages moderator animosity. In short, it only creates problems; please refrain from doing this in the future. Violations and Ban Policy As I stated in November elsewhere, we updated our ban policy at the end of September immediately prior to hiring the last group of forum moderators. The warning/ban system has varied a lot in the last 4 years and the current approach lies somewhere between the two more extreme approaches of the past. It has now been approximately six months since we started using this system and we plan to continue with it for the foreseeable future. Thus, we have now written the details of the system into the Site & Forum Guidelines so that the community can clearly see how rule violations are handled on MAL. I will refrain from going into too much detail about the policy itself in this post. Please read through it in the guidelines and feel free to either post in this thread or PM a moderator privately to discuss any questions or concerns you may have. Insults on MAL Along with this update, we have also included our previously discussed stance on insults from November for easy reference. |
| New Forum Moderators First of all, I'd like to thank the community for your patience with us the last few months, and namely, the last few weeks. Open applications are typically considerably more work than nominations made by staff members, and the stages of this application process were longer and more rigorous than previous hiring rounds. Second, a big thank you again to everyone that applied for the position and underwent our extensive test in the second round! Regretfully, we could not take every applicant. How we chose from the applicants The next few weeks I'd like to remind everyone of the purpose of moderator announcement threads: to inform the community that we are training new staff. No new moderator is perfect when they are hired (and even old moderators make mistakes from time to time). The announcement thread is partly a way for the community to welcome the new staff, but it's also there to say: "Hey, these guys are new, cut them some slack while we get them settled in." What this thread is not for: Whether our open application process was a success or not still cannot be fully seen. However, it was certainly interesting to see which members of the community were interested in the position and it gave us the opportunity to see them from perhaps a different viewpoint. In the end, I do not think it was a loss (even with it being quite a long and arduous process), and I look forward to our new moderators showing us all that this recruitment was a success. Finally, without further ado, please welcome our new forum moderators (here and/or on their profiles): |
| Congratulations!!!! Seems like a good selection of people - not sure if I'm more excited for quick response on threadlocks or less excited to potentially be banned for shit-posting /shrugssss edit/edit/edit: My 1st first, I'd like to thank mai waifu, the quick thread refreshing skills I've honed over the last 5 months, and finally, you MAL! /curtsey |
kissMay 1, 2014 2:17 PM
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| Not first. :c I guess I'll take the time to just say it now. I know a bunch of people prooooobably (read: most likely) have some sort of beef with me. If so, please direct your concerns to me via pm. That would be dandy. |
| Oh my god. MellowJellow finally achieved his dream. |
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| I've been expecting for MellowJello to become a moderator like forever |
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| Congrats to all of the new Forum Mods! Also, I love the new ban policy! Thanks, Kineta! |
| Demi Valentine Website: Nika 'n Asia Follow me on social media! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter |
| Wow a lot of new forum mods and a lot of familiar faces. I'm not sure I'm going to like this. |
     Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
| Gratz guys! I know you'll do a great job. |
koleareMay 1, 2014 2:29 PM
| Mellow4mod...actually happened. *tear drop* |
NTADMay 1, 2014 2:45 PM
| Wow.!!! Grats Tyrel, julyan04, Niyawa, Ragix and sarroush! I'll read more on this thread later as I'm a little busy right now but nice to see new additions to the team. I see some other familiar faces as well. |
Stark700May 1, 2014 2:39 PM
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| Congratulations. |
| Welcome guys. |
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Sakana-san said: Congratulations. |
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| Grats to the new mods. Don't ban me pls. I is good boy. |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
| Did not expect that. |
| Please don't ban me. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| Neat. |
| [size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS |
| I will desist from judging your choice of suitable moderators, for now atleast. However, the list does seem somewhat mediocre. Of the users I recognize, I can't think of a single one whom I can view as wholeheartedly devoted to this community and keeping us on track. Were you guys scraping the bottom of the barrel? How many people applied? Well, congratulations all. With this, I'm sure Lupadim, Jd, and Okazaki could be moderators aswell. |
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| Congratulations to Heddie, Mellow, Ragi, and Bacon. The rest of you I wasn't even aware that you existed. But uh, congratulations too I guess. This is going to make some interesting situations.. hey Mellow. Remember when we were talking about insults and such like two or so months ago, and you even made a thread requesting a discussion between the moderators and userbase to work out a more reasonable policy on the subject? How would we see that reflected in your modding decisions? For example, if I happened to call you, say, an isulting name that doesn't even use MAL frequently enough to even be considered for a position such as moderator, would you take into account my personality and our relationship and how I'm just a tsundere for you, or would you be forced to take action even though you are completely aware of my intentions and nobody involved is actually offended? Edit: Actually, this may have already been answered in the opening post. But fuck it, I want to hear your answer anyway. Mod edit: Reasonable question, but I have removed what could have been considered an insult (even hypothetically) to avoid discussion being distracted. New mods are currently busy getting some additional orientation and may decide to answer by pm. |
rodacMay 1, 2014 3:11 PM
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| Ragix needs to be punished for cheating the favorite anime list on his profile. |
| [size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS |
DerpHole said: I was about to make a post about that, I was under the impression this was a bannable offense, does this still hold true?Ragix needs to be punished for cheating the favorite anime list on his profile. If not, am I, or rather, are we too allowed to exploit this bug with no prospective ramifications? |
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| Oh my god. |
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| Mellow4Mod happened lol, congrats to all the new moderators |
rodac said: Oh for fuck's sake. Mod edit: Reasonable question, but I have removed what could have been considered an insult (even hypothetically) to avoid discussion being distracted. New mods are currently busy getting some additional orientation and may decide to answer by pm. Well I guess that answers my question. It's been a time and a half MAL.. |
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FGAU1912 said: laot of the new mods who know me hate me so yes im in ofr a rough time your not insulting people anyway from what i observe the people are the ones who insults you lol, so your fine |
| so we got a bunch of the good users as mods now |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I wouldn't have more than half of those people on the list, Hell, right now I would only accept myself as a moderator because I'm me. Battlechili1 said: Mellowjello and Hederick's post history aren't important. Rules are rules, and regardless of what they've done in the past, they are now required to enforce them. If someone derails a thread, that is an offense that moderators, even ones with histories of doing the same, will have to take action on. This site hasn't become a joke. Kineta said that they wanted moderators that are active in the forums. And who better than some of the ones picked? They're frequent posters and well liked within the community, know the community well, and can act responsibly. True about the first part, but there is too little time between offenses to be able to say that the ones that did not follow certain rules changed all of a sudden. Wait, what? I guess you're talking about the people you like, not who the community likes. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
KinetaMay 3, 2014 6:57 PM
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Wowowowowow, Gratzzzzzzzzzz Heddo, Ragix, Mellow and Dacon. Isn't that too many though? |
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| And lo what a historical day it was. |
Mkayyy said: Wowowowowow, Gratzzzzzzzzzz Heddo, Ragix, Mellow and Dacon. Isn't that too many though? there are too many spam bots to ban |
| Congrats to Bacon, Heddie, Mellow, Zelot and Ragi! Since they're the only ones I know. :D Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
KinetaMay 1, 2014 5:01 PM
| Lol I'm glad I don't frequent these forums anymore. Mellow as mod. smh. |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| May I request diplomatic immunity? Battlechili1 said: While I do agree in that frequent posters should be given the positions, by this very same rationale, what is to stop say Lupadim from becoming a mod under the pretense that he will proactively practice and enforce the rules?Mellowjello and Hederick's post history aren't important. Rules are rules, and regardless of what they've done in the past, they are now required to enforce them. If someone derails a thread, that is an offense that moderators, even ones with histories of doing the same, will have to take action on. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
KinetaMay 3, 2014 6:58 PM
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| This is going to turn out worse, than the similar thread before it. Should have a been a locked announcement. The results happening now, should have been predictable. |
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| Well, I won't say this is as bad as General Discussion schism... But still. I'd rather have Bloodcalibur be a mod at this point. He is infinite after all, with his harem and shit. You know what? I think I'll go scout for him and make him come back, make him a mod please. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Thread cleaned. A bunch of baiting and derailing has now been cleaned out of this thread. Let me now briefly address a few of the points I saw while reading and cleaning this thread. First of all, no one gets banned because the moderation team doesn't like them, or vice versa. Our ban policy is clearly visible in the guidelines now and I didn't see a category in there called "Hated by Mods". This is a cheap and baseless statement to make, so please refrain from doing so. I put the "disclaimer" in the thread because this kind of behaviour has suddenly become commonplace in moderator announcement threads. Even the review moderator announcement, which I thought would go over relatively well, needed to be cleaned. While you're perfectly welcome to disagree with our choices, outright attacking new moderators simply because they were chosen is unnecessary and downright rude. Popularity - or lack thereof - had nothing to do with the applications. I explained our criteria and our thoughts. We need people who actually post in the boards - and enjoy posting in them - to moderate them. We want moderators to have a presence and be active participants in threads. And CD in particular needs moderator love. One of the downsides of choosing active participants, though, is that not everyone likes them. Still, when we chose "no-name" participants, everyone was mad about them, too. We held open applications. Everyone who was interested in improving MAL's forum and volunteering for the site was invited to apply. In total, we received ~45 applications. From those, we chose the applicants who best fit our criteria. Not all of these users have perfect histories, but people are capable of improving themselves. If you think we're happy about the reputation of some of the candidates, then please think again. But our community has seemingly developed to the point where any moderator we chose would be criticised. We need to take these concerns in stride while continuing to move forward in efforts to improve the site. The forum team has been lacking in number for a long time and I really hope that we can not only change this, but improve our forum environment in the long run through better and regular participation with the staff team. And as I've said before, our community is what each of us make of it. You don't need to be a moderator to contribute, and contribute well, to MAL. @YorozuyaGinSan: |
KinetaMay 1, 2014 7:22 PM
| Actually, my problem is a more personal type of problem, you claim you'd take anyone that is active on the Forums, likes posting, knows the community and the rules. You even claim that you took "no-names" that we still criticize anyway. Yet, one (me) makes a mistake, a single one that I corrected right after, and you ditch him (me) down the gutter. One would think (me), that his history was too bad for the moderator position, he (me) most likely took it with a grain of salt, even if he saw myself more than capable for it, but then he saw certain names, and he's completely confused. (sorry, I continued with this format and now I had to follow it) The ban policy sucked ass until now, Kineta. We (me) had to pester you (the mod in question, whatever), for reasons for why we got banned and you'd just point us to an ambiguous response, smash the rules in like it was nothing and be like "It's okay, it's only one day, take it as a champ.". I won't name mods, fuck that. And that contribution bullcrap is indeed, bullshit. I might have been here only for 2 years, but all the contribution you add is nothing in comparison to all those shitposters that drown you in their diarrhea, then you get taken as a "troll" of some sort if you want a discussion, of course, one might take it to extremes, he has that habit, but hey (yes, this last last part is a joke). But this is something personal (it's too bad I can't see all the other applicants, I'd understand what's going on then), so I'll take it to PM. Oh, and I mean it, I found your response lackluster, but you did tell me you had no time, now that you do (or so I think) have time please do explain the reasoning behind your choice. The whole idea is that what's happening and what you're saying are a bit in contradiction, and this comes from a so-called "troll". |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
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