TheBleachGod said: robis798 said: No, it was created by Artland, the one that gave birth to Mushishi. But Madhouse did do some of its movies I think. Or maybe the side series, I dunno the first season is done by madhouse before you wanna act like you know your shit do some research i have no idea why you are even posting when you havent seen it and no idea what you are talking about Except that on LoGH's page here on MAL there's no mention of Madhouse that's why I'm saying this. Unless MAL is not a reliable source of information anymore. Nanaca said: I mean, even if they couldn't scrape the money for a proper character designer Um, the person who did LoGH's character designs is literally the person who does the best character designs in anime, although LoGH is not his high point but the designs are still pretty good. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: mayukachan said: excited for seiyuu announcements! hope they pick new ppl well no shit, yang's VA is deceased for example so they'll need to pick good ones to match the characters well, sailor moon crystal had usagi's old VA so yeah, they might pull something like that :/ i really really don't want people in their 50s+ voicing adults in their 20s okay |
robis798 said: Um, the person who did LoGH's character designs is literally the person who does the best character designs in anime, although LoGH is not his high point but the designs are still pretty good. Which one? There's no less than five of them listed on MAL. Curiously, Anidb lists two completely different people. |
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Nanaca said: robis798 said: Um, the person who did LoGH's character designs is literally the person who does the best character designs in anime, although LoGH is not his high point but the designs are still pretty good. Which one? There's no less than five of them listed on MAL. Curiously, Anidb lists two completely different people. Hm, well I was talking about Onda Naoyuki but there are indeed about 5 of them there in the staff, so if he wasn't the only one maybe you're right. It's just that his works on character designs are simply masterpieces. |
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mayukachan said: These seiyuus should definitely remain:excited for seiyuu announcements! hope they pick new ppl Reinhard von Lohengramm = Horikawa Ryo Oskar von Reunthal = Wakamoto Norio Attenborough Dusty - Kazuhiko Inoue |
mayukachan said: FireEmblemIke24 said: well no shit, yang's VA is deceased for example so they'll need to pick good ones to match the characters well, sailor moon crystal had usagi's old VA so yeah, they might pull something like that :/ i really really don't want people in their 50s+ voicing adults in their 20s okay Ikeda Shuuichi still does it and he's goat, I don't see why any other of these people are too old for it Reuenthal's for one is irreplaceable, Reinhard's too pretty much. Yang is an unfortunate case |
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jayss said: Attenborough Dusty - Kazuhiko Inoue I'm so sorry, but he might not make it to the show. |
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mayukachan said: excited for seiyuu announcements! hope they pick new ppl No need to thinking about, Kaji for Lainhardo and Matsuoka for Miracle Yang. If no one care about age of seiyuu, i think about Hirata Hiroaki is a good choice for Yang. |
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ZetaZaku said: Oh yeah, forgot he was completely original character in the anime. I hope they do keep him in the show, he's such a cool characterjayss said: Attenborough Dusty - Kazuhiko Inoue I'm so sorry, but he might not make it to the show. |
jayss said: I'm pretty sure that's been confirmed as an exaggeration. Hearsay now is that his role in the novels was a lot less prominent, but he's not completely absent either.ZetaZaku said: Oh yeah, forgot he was completely original character in the anime. I hope they do keep him in the show, he's such a cool characterI'm so sorry, but he might not make it to the show. |
| Wasn't he introduced halfway through or something in the novels? That's what I've heard. As long as I get my fair share of foppery and whim I'm down for a more faithful adaptation. |
| So remake? Doubt it will top the OVA. That reminds me I should watch the prequels already! T_T |
jayss said: ZetaZaku said: Oh yeah, forgot he was completely original character in the anime. I hope they do keep him in the show, he's such a cool characterI'm so sorry, but he might not make it to the show. Dusty that cynical man was less important in the novels? That's news to me. |
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Nico- said: Lol youtube comments and a dead website. I would hardly use those those as an indicator for a fanbase.insan3Inquisitor said: Starting to think all these so called "elitists" don't even exist anymore, aside from a few posts I'm seeing an awful lot of people just slinging mud at the LoGH fanbase. Disgusting. ya they do, just look on youtube comments and on hummingbird on mal i agree theyre a dying breed although a lot of fake elitists tbf PoeticJustice said: I honestly haven't seen much of these elitists that people complain about in every Logh announcement thread, and in this thread everyone just seems to be joking around(I obviously was).RX-782 said: YES!! I can't wait. You mean all the people with good taste? no, the people who can't think for themselves and just like it because "elitists," like it so much. Most people can't even articulate why the show is so gud, just, OMG REINHARD YANG DEZ POLITICS. Besides I would find it hard to believe that someone would "like" logh because of only the praise of from these elitists and not for anything else, I think there's a lot to like about the show. |
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| I'm just scratching my head about what they hope to accomplish with this. Maybe they see the LOGH series as a steady cash cow or something, which they can adapt eternally for years? What would be the other reason for reviving this behemoth? You can't just adapt a small part of it, I mean its an epic. |
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Nidhoeggr said: At least all the names for nobles in the Empire are correct, though. I hate how fake many of these royal names sound in modern anime. But the author of this show clearly did some research on Prussian/German nobility. And the names of the ships (mostly cities if I recall correctly) and some key locations. Both probably copied directly from history books and some atlas. With these names, probably already correct in the original novels, there shouldn't be a problem unless the Anime staff transcribes the Japanese writing badly (the letters that aren't used in Japanese and similar). |
| Absolutely fantastic news, I was waiting for a confermation since the first rumors spread around, and I'm utterly enthusiastic. And whatever they plan to do, I'm sure it's gonna be better than most of anime nowdays. As long they keep Wakamoto for Reuenthal *coff* |
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| I can't help but be excited for this. I hope they keep as much of the same voice cast as possible. Now I'm just curious about how the character designs will be like. |
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cupc said: mayukachan said: well, sailor moon crystal had usagi's old VA so yeah, they might pull something like that :/ i really really don't want people in their 50s+ voicing adults in their 20s okay Ikeda Shuuichi still does it and he's goat, I don't see why any other of these people are too old for it Reuenthal's for one is irreplaceable, Reinhard's too pretty much. Yang is an unfortunate case nope. because it's something that will be easy to hear, at least for it me. once people age, their voices do too unfortunately. have you heard ikeda shuuichi voicing any character in a show airing this year? if yes, then i rest my case. Tlahuizcapante said: mayukachan said: excited for seiyuu announcements! hope they pick new ppl No need to thinking about, Kaji for Lainhardo and Matsuoka for Miracle Yang. If no one care about age of seiyuu, i think about Hirata Hiroaki is a good choice for Yang. hirata suits rough characters like mutta or tiger, so neither of the main characters. i'd say yang would be like ono kensho and reinhard needs someone majestic like umehara or mamo also, matsuoka only suits high school students as well as kaji who can do even younger than that. i respect them but they are horrible fits for older characters. jayss said: mayukachan said: These seiyuus should definitely remain:excited for seiyuu announcements! hope they pick new ppl Reinhard von Lohengramm = Horikawa Ryo Oskar von Reunthal = Wakamoto Norio Attenborough Dusty - Kazuhiko Inoue no for horikawa ryo (i met him last year and his voice is really weird now and high pitched) and i don't have any opinion on the other two as i don't remember who they are |
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mayukachan said: Tlahuizcapante said: No need to thinking about, Kaji for Lainhardo and Matsuoka for Miracle Yang. If no one care about age of seiyuu, i think about Hirata Hiroaki is a good choice for Yang. hirata suits rough characters like mutta or tiger, so neither of the main characters. i'd say yang would be like ono kensho and reinhard needs someone majestic like umehara or mamo also, matsuoka only suits high school students as well as kaji who can do even younger than that. i respect them but they are horrible fits for older characters. Mutta is rough? He is one of the most sweet characters, who is timid and modest, but sometimes make a brave decisions. Also, Matsuoka and Kaji is just a joke. And, i think, Ono Kensho is too yong for Yang role. Yang need a seiyuu with deep voice, but with a soft side, like Miyano Mamoru or Ono Daisuke. P.S. Another aged seiyuu - Yamadera Kouichi is also quite a good choice for Yang, i think. |
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mayukachan said: Eh, I don't think Ikeda's voice has changed all that much since the 90s. Kesler wasn't the most youthful, nor a main-main character anyway.nope. because it's something that will be easy to hear, at least for it me. once people age, their voices do too unfortunately. have you heard ikeda shuuichi voicing any character in a show airing this year? if yes, then i rest my case. That example aside, I do agree that there's not much need to go digging around for the old garde, as lovely as the nostalgia kick might be for the fans. If the new anime were actually billed as another entry following up the old adaptations - like another Gaiden, or an anniversary event - then maybe there'd be a real reason to. It'd be nice if some of the original cast could pop up in other roles or as cameos though. |
Tlahuizcapante said: mayukachan said: hirata suits rough characters like mutta or tiger, so neither of the main characters. i'd say yang would be like ono kensho and reinhard needs someone majestic like umehara or mamo also, matsuoka only suits high school students as well as kaji who can do even younger than that. i respect them but they are horrible fits for older characters. Mutta is rough? He is one of the most sweet characters, who is timid and modest, but sometimes make a brave decisions. Also, Matsuoka and Kaji is just a joke. And, i think, Ono Kensho is too yong for Yang role. Yang need a seiyuu with deep voice, but with a soft side, like Miyano Mamoru or Ono Daisuke. P.S. Another aged seiyuu - Yamadera Kouichi is also quite a good choice for Yang, i think. I know mutta's personality is a fluffy bunny but his voice is somewhat rough. Like the timbre of it. You can hear that it's perfect for a man in the late 20s or early 30s. And I know it's a joke but for real, they are fetus voices. Not suited for adults. I also think they are two good voice actors who have a decent range and versatility. ono kensho sounds deep tho? what. listen for his non-anime speaking voice :P i think mamo can work yang as well. |
mayukachan said: Tlahuizcapante said: Mutta is rough? He is one of the most sweet characters, who is timid and modest, but sometimes make a brave decisions. Also, Matsuoka and Kaji is just a joke. And, i think, Ono Kensho is too yong for Yang role. Yang need a seiyuu with deep voice, but with a soft side, like Miyano Mamoru or Ono Daisuke. P.S. Another aged seiyuu - Yamadera Kouichi is also quite a good choice for Yang, i think. I know mutta's personality is a fluffy bunny but his voice is somewhat rough. Like the timbre of it. You can hear that it's perfect for a man in the late 20s or early 30s. And I know it's a joke but for real, they are fetus voices. Not suited for adults. I also think they are two good voice actors who have a decent range and versatility. ono kensho sounds deep tho? what. listen for his non-anime speaking voice :P i think mamo can work yang as well. And Yang is 33. I don't understand completely about Ono Kensho. If you say he has deep voice-give some link. If not, i agreed for him is not suited for Yang role. P.S. Some seiyuus for Yang. 1. Daisuke Namikawa 2. Miki Shinichiro 3. Sakurai Takahiro |
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Akutron said: Doesn't Ryo Horikawa still voices Hattori in Detective Conan who is younger character than Reinhard? my complaint about ryo is that he's too high pitched now haha Tlahuizcapante said: mayukachan said: I know mutta's personality is a fluffy bunny but his voice is somewhat rough. Like the timbre of it. You can hear that it's perfect for a man in the late 20s or early 30s. And I know it's a joke but for real, they are fetus voices. Not suited for adults. I also think they are two good voice actors who have a decent range and versatility. ono kensho sounds deep tho? what. listen for his non-anime speaking voice :P i think mamo can work yang as well. And Yang is 33. I don't understand completely about Ono Kensho. If you say he has deep voice-give some link. If not, i agreed for him is not suited for Yang role. P.S. Some seiyuus for Yang. 1. Daisuke Namikawa 2. Miki Shinichiro 3. Sakurai Takahiro idk, i've seen onok in some seiyuu events and he sounds different from his characters. don't have links as i download them lol isn't yang younger earlier on in the series? or am i mistaken but i agree with your three choices, minus miki shinichiro who.. sounds pretty gruff i think |
mayukachan said: Akutron said: Doesn't Ryo Horikawa still voices Hattori in Detective Conan who is younger character than Reinhard? my complaint about ryo is that he's too high pitched now haha Tlahuizcapante said: And Yang is 33. I don't understand completely about Ono Kensho. If you say he has deep voice-give some link. If not, i agreed for him is not suited for Yang role. P.S. Some seiyuus for Yang. 1. Daisuke Namikawa 2. Miki Shinichiro 3. Sakurai Takahiro idk, i've seen onok in some seiyuu events and he sounds different from his characters. don't have links as i download them lol isn't yang younger earlier on in the series? or am i mistaken but i agree with your three choices, minus miki shinichiro who.. sounds pretty gruff i think Remember about his Roy Mustang. Calm voice, but sometimes show some fury. Yes, it takes some time, but most of time Yang is late 20s and early 30s. |
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Akutron said: He's also voicing Vegeta in the currently airing Dragon Ball series and I notice, compared to when Dragon Ball Z aired, that his voice acting doesn't sound as great, but it's still really good, but I think it would be better to get a new or more recent voice actor for Reinhard.Doesn't Ryo Horikawa still voices Hattori in Detective Conan who is younger character than Reinhard? |
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Tlahuizcapante said: Remember about his Roy Mustang. Calm voice, but sometimes show some fury. Yes, it takes some time, but most of time Yang is late 20s and early 30s. Roy doesn't remind me of Yang :/ and Roy's voice was slightly too mature sounding imo He made the young Hijikata (from Hakuouki) sound like he was in his 40s when he wasn't supposed to. RX-782 said: Akutron said: He's also voicing Vegeta in the currently airing Dragon Ball series and I notice, compared to when Dragon Ball Z aired, that his voice acting doesn't sound as great, but it's still really good, but I think it would be better to get a new or more recent voice actor for Reinhard.Doesn't Ryo Horikawa still voices Hattori in Detective Conan who is younger character than Reinhard? Doesn't even have to recent but like, in the appropriate age range and has skill |
| After reading some recent posts, I guess I would be ok with some voice cast changes. After all, I didn't mind the voice changes for Reinhard and Kircheis in Golden Wings too much. I still think Norio Wakamoto should voice Reuenthal though. |
mayukachan said: Tlahuizcapante said: Remember about his Roy Mustang. Calm voice, but sometimes show some fury. Yes, it takes some time, but most of time Yang is late 20s and early 30s. Roy doesn't remind me of Yang :/ and Roy's voice was slightly too mature sounding imo He made the young Hijikata (from Hakuouki) sound like he was in his 40s when he wasn't supposed to. But i imagine modern Yang voice exactly in the deep and mature tone. Not like brutal, deep and mature(like Nakai Kazuya or Ootsuka Akio), but mature man in his middle age with deep voice with soft tone(Tomiyama was pretty much the same, but i think he lack some intonation to give voice more expressiveness). All is IMO, of course, and i don't think all i wrote is absolute. Will be nice surprise, if they choose not a VA, but a actors from TV and movies. |
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| I've only seen the main LOTGH series, are the other instalments worth it? |
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Nidhoeggr said: tsudecimo said: ugh i hate space crap Might watch the original but it's really unappealing aside from the thing about rise to power and fame part. JD2411 said: not more of this shit. I can't even finish the original i ship it |
| i can finally watch this and see if its really overrated or not, i heard the original is boring but really intellectual so im glad they gonna remake this to modern animation standards at least will this have 100+ episodes too? but damn 2017 is still 2 years from now |
black1blade said: The films 'My Conquest is the Sea of Stars' and Overture to a New War boast production qualities that the mains series didn't have. The first is a prequel to the series, but pretty much serves as an introduction or another early battle/story arc. Overture is an expanded and movie-quality iteration of the first two(?) episodes.I've only seen the main LOTGH series, are the other instalments worth it? So they're essentially pimped up episodes of the main OVA. There's another film, Golden Wings, which doesn't have that positive a reception amongst fans. I haven't seen it yet myself, but it apparently has a significantly different artstyle to the rest of the anime. Then there are the Gaiden OVAs (split into Spiral Labyrinth and Senoku no Hoshi, Senoku no Hikari on MAL). This one is made up of side-stories and past events that take place prior to the main show. I don't think any of them added all that much to the experience, unfortunately, but the multi-arc structure lets you see things like Reinhard and Siegfried's early days and their rise through the military, Yang at El Facil, some more world history, and so on. Personally, I felt the individual stories were inconsistant in quality, and since they don't bring anything crucial to the OVA, I just don't think there's a major incentive to watch these. That said, they're worth a look if you're up for a collection of Reinhard and/or Yang's minor escapades. Also, do note that Yang's original VA had passed away at this point, so he'll be sounding rather different. j0x said: It seems strange to me that you plan to judge the older iteration via proxy, especially when we have no idea of how similar the two adaptations will be.i can finally watch this and see if its really overrated or not, i heard the original is boring but really intellectual so im glad they gonna remake this to modern animation standards at least |
Ckan said: j0x said: It seems strange to me that you plan to judge the older iteration via proxy, especially when we have no idea of how similar the two adaptations will be.i can finally watch this and see if its really overrated or not, i heard the original is boring but really intellectual so im glad they gonna remake this to modern animation standards at least i got no plans on watching the original series, i saw some random clips of it and ye its seems so boring and other people who have watched it says the same thing, it might be confirmation bias on my part but i got no motivation to watch it honestly and they say its a remake right? i will know if the remake will be bad compared to the original since the people who watched the original will criticize the remake for sure once its release |
j0x said: Ckan said: It seems strange to me that you plan to judge the older iteration via proxy, especially when we have no idea of how similar the two adaptations will be. i got no plans on watching the original series, i saw some random clips of it and ye its seems so boring and other people who have watched it says the same thing, it might be confirmation bias on my part but i got no motivation to watch it honestly and they say its a remake right? i will know if the remake will be bad compared to the original since the people who watched the original will criticize the remake for sure once its release You can't watch snippets of plot based show and say it's boring... It's like reading random pages in a novel and say it's boring. You won't get any of the deeper ties of the story and why things are happening etc. Not saying that it is not boring at times (to be honest, it takes way too long to get good and it always has boring parts in between) but judging it like you do is not clever. Anyways, if it is "seems boring" what holds you from watching the series, how is that going to change with the remake? If they do a remake, the most noticable difference will probably be the visuals/animation, the voice actors and maybe the OST. |
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| What Miragee said before me is true in regards to snippets. I went into LOTGH expecting a rather dry affair as well, but it is really engaging which can mostly be attributed to its superb cast of characters. Unlike many other people I don't think the start is weak either: They start in medias res, but quickly evolve from there and the plot keeps moving at an adequate pace. There is quite a lot of humour in it and outside from some really strange episodes that just scream 80s it is just as engaging as House of Cards, Game of Thrones or other shows are... just as an anime with some outdated animation. I also never got WHAT people found boring in LOTGH. The political talk? That's engaging and well done almost every time. The side characters getting spotlight? That's usually engaging as well, because they are fleshed out and feel delightfully different from the usual wlaking tropefests we are used to. The pace of the plot? As I said before, it progresses nicely. The spotlight is certainly a bit warped (FPA gets too little) and a few aspects like the Earth Cult are bad, but this type of criticism rarely gets mentioned compared to "It's boring" or "Ugly designs". I seriously question the ability to formulate useful criticism of most people I came across here. |
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Miragee said: j0x said: i got no plans on watching the original series, i saw some random clips of it and ye its seems so boring and other people who have watched it says the same thing, it might be confirmation bias on my part but i got no motivation to watch it honestly and they say its a remake right? i will know if the remake will be bad compared to the original since the people who watched the original will criticize the remake for sure once its release You can't watch snippets of plot based show and say it's boring... It's like reading random pages in a novel and say it's boring. You won't get any of the deeper ties of the story and why things are happening etc. Not saying that it is not boring at times (to be honest, it takes way too long to get good and it always has boring parts in between) but judging it like you do is not clever. Anyways, if it is "seems boring" what holds you from watching the series, how is that going to change with the remake? If they do a remake, the most noticable difference will probably be the visuals/animation, the voice actors and maybe the OST. i mostly see the scenes about constant talking and the people who comment on those videos that says they have watch all of them are boring as well and yes animation quality can increase my enjoyment, i have tolerated watching talkative shows like Tatami Galaxy anyway |
| So basically you and your friends just say you are too dumb to understand the talk in LOTGH and need good animation to enjoy content? Pretty superficial. Just kidding and paraphrasing here, but you really sound like you lacked the attention span needed. Especially when you haven't even seen it and formed your opinion via other comments on Youtube or whatever(?). Now I understand why HBO had to add tons of dumb extra shock moments and tits to Game of Thrones. Apparently people need this to to watch interesting conversations... As I said before: Nidhoeggr said: What Miragee said before me is true in regards to snippets. I went into LOTGH expecting a rather dry affair as well, but it is really engaging which can mostly be attributed to its superb cast of characters. Unlike many other people I don't think the start is weak either: They start in medias res, but quickly evolve from there and the plot keeps moving at an adequate pace. There is quite a lot of humour in it and except from some really strange episodes that just scream 80s it is just as engaging as House of Cards, Game of Thrones or other shows are... just as an anime with some outdated animation. I also never got WHAT people found boring in LOTGH. The political talk? That's engaging and well done almost every time. The side characters getting spotlight? That's usually engaging as well, because they are fleshed out and feel delightfully different from the usual wlaking tropefests we are used to. The pace of the plot? As I said before, it progresses nicely. The spotlight is certainly a bit warped (FPA gets too little) and a few aspects like the Earth Cult are bad, but this type of criticism rarely gets mentioned compared to "It's boring" or "Ugly designs". I seriously question the ability to formulate useful criticism of most people I came across here. |
NidhoeggrAug 16, 2015 3:50 AM
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Nidhoeggr said: So basically you and your friends just say you are too dumb to understand the talk in LOTGH and need good animation to enjoy content? Pretty superficial. Just kidding and paraphrasing here, but you really sound like you lacked the attention span needed. is this directed to me? if so yes i got a short attention span, thats why i did not bother watching the sequels of Mushishi even though i have watch the first season |
| Well then, I am sorry to inform you that shows like LOTGH usually expect at least a minimum of critical thinking and attention from their viewers. We are way too accustomed to an anime style that spells out every single critical development or unneeded detail as it doesn't trust the viewer to comprehend basic plot structure and character development. If you want to be forcefeed character development via badly forced monologues like in most modern action Shounen, you will probably not like LOTGH a lot. For people who enjoy not being intellectually insulted though, this is more fun. |
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| I think you're giving LoGH a bit too much credit here. The politics really aren't that difficult to comprehend and the show spews everything at you in dialogue so basically minimal thinking is required. All you need to do is sit down and read the subtitles so I guess an attention span is a good thing. Thankfully the show does indeed have a very nice sense of humor so it never gets dry |
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| i doubt LOTGH is really an intellectual show, i hear things that spaceships on that anime are using manual aim for its target, what happened to computer assissted aiming? i will see the anime for myself when the remake is release and see for myself if its really a smart show |
| soon.. Ive got to watch the orig before 2017..next goal |
cupc said: I think you're giving LoGH a bit too much credit here. The politics really aren't that difficult to comprehend and the show spews everything at you in dialogue so basically minimal thinking is required. All you need to do is sit down and read the subtitles i can do that, and thanks so its like Psycho-Pass too that you just need to read the subtitles in order to get what they are thinking intelligently |
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