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Sep 1, 2015 10:02 AM

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Moechintai4 said:
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In novel, is pretty interesting to listen seventh's thoughts about situation. They are clearly having fun.

I it's difficult, but it would be cool if something of the sorts happened in the anime. The sevenths shadow or something like it.

Or just write text, without words on the screen. But i think, they doesn't include this on adaptation because this thoughts doesn't have crucial effects to the story.
And, probably, because this thoughts connected with later parts of novel, and studio doesn't know about another season, so they choose does not include this part with seventh's thoughts.
Sep 1, 2015 10:37 AM

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Tlahuizcapante said:
Moechintai4 said:

I it's difficult, but it would be cool if something of the sorts happened in the anime. The sevenths shadow or something like it.

Or just write text, without words on the screen. But i think, they doesn't include this on adaptation because this thoughts doesn't have crucial effects to the story.
And, probably, because this thoughts connected with later parts of novel, and studio doesn't know about another season, so they choose does not include this part with seventh's thoughts.

Aaah, that's good. I was thinking that them removing those lines couldn't be helped since if a seiyuu say those lines we would understand immediately who "thought" that, but words flashing on the screen like they do on monogatari series and a few other anime would have been nice. Trembling letters flashing for a few seconds on a sinister screen with the seventh's thoughts could have helped built the tension even higher. Damn, that's a very good idea, never thought of that solution. If the seiyuu is the problem, don't use a seiyuu, heh. Now I'm regretting they didn't include that, indeed.
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Maura's such a *****.
Like he'd be the seventh whilst staying in the castles underground lifetime prison cell, which nashetania knew!

But dat Hans and Adlet combo waaaas siiick!

Can't wait till next week :3
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Sep 1, 2015 11:07 AM

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Zefyris said:
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Or just write text, without words on the screen. But i think, they doesn't include this on adaptation because this thoughts doesn't have crucial effects to the story.
And, probably, because this thoughts connected with later parts of novel, and studio doesn't know about another season, so they choose does not include this part with seventh's thoughts.

Aaah, that's good. I was thinking that them removing those lines couldn't be helped since if a seiyuu say those lines we would understand immediately who "thought" that, but words flashing on the screen like they do on monogatari series and a few other anime would have been nice. Trembling letters flashing for a few seconds on a sinister screen with the seventh's thoughts could have helped built the tension even higher. Damn, that's a very good idea, never thought of that solution. If the seiyuu is the problem, don't use a seiyuu, heh. Now I'm regretting they didn't include that, indeed.


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Zefyris said:
Tlahuizcapante said:

Or just write text, without words on the screen. But i think, they doesn't include this on adaptation because this thoughts doesn't have crucial effects to the story.
And, probably, because this thoughts connected with later parts of novel, and studio doesn't know about another season, so they choose does not include this part with seventh's thoughts.

Aaah, that's good. I was thinking that them removing those lines couldn't be helped since if a seiyuu say those lines we would understand immediately who "thought" that, but words flashing on the screen like they do on monogatari series and a few other anime would have been nice. Trembling letters flashing for a few seconds on a sinister screen with the seventh's thoughts could have helped built the tension even higher. Damn, that's a very good idea, never thought of that solution. If the seiyuu is the problem, don't use a seiyuu, heh. Now I'm regretting they didn't include that, indeed.


That would definitely had been a great idea. Just one downside to this is that the seventh's thoughts contain names of the other Braves so it would definitely narrow down the number of theories roaming around the net. This way, people are making up even the most absurd theories about X Brave being the fake.

I would have preferred to have the seventh's thoughts included though.
Sep 1, 2015 11:58 AM

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Tlahuizcapante said:
Zefyris said:

Aaah, that's good. I was thinking that them removing those lines couldn't be helped since if a seiyuu say those lines we would understand immediately who "thought" that, but words flashing on the screen like they do on monogatari series and a few other anime would have been nice. Trembling letters flashing for a few seconds on a sinister screen with the seventh's thoughts could have helped built the tension even higher. Damn, that's a very good idea, never thought of that solution. If the seiyuu is the problem, don't use a seiyuu, heh. Now I'm regretting they didn't include that, indeed.


its the thought of the seventh
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That would definitely had been a great idea. Just one downside to this is that the seventh's thoughts contain names of the other Braves so it would definitely narrow down the number of theories roaming around the net. This way, people are making up even the most absurd theories about X Brave being the fake.

I would have preferred to have the seventh's thoughts included though.

not really, since the seventh's thoughts only mentioned one hero
Sep 1, 2015 12:08 PM

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As an anime-only. I can safely assume that the fake is Nashetania. There are just too many hints like her feeling weak in the Temple, acting all weird at the end of the episode. And the biggest reasoning for me to believe that she is the fake, is the fact that sweet characters like her tend to get a 180 degree personality change. I can definitely see her getting all evil and psycho xD.

Well I may be wrong and if I am, I can only think of Moura to be the fake, which could be very interesting as well actually.
Sep 1, 2015 12:16 PM

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ttcchen said:

not really, since the seventh's thoughts only mentioned one hero


Mentioned another :


My point still stands about absurd theories.
Sep 1, 2015 1:14 PM

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Frrrosty said:
ttcchen said:

not really, since the seventh's thoughts only mentioned one hero


Mentioned another :


My point still stands about absurd theories.
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Sep 1, 2015 4:36 PM

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Of course your glad he's working hard Nashetania since it wouldn't be any fun otherwise would it? ;)
Sep 1, 2015 7:42 PM

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-Makkuro said:
As an anime-only. I can safely assume that the fake is Nashetania. There are just too many hints like her feeling weak in the Temple, acting all weird at the end of the episode. And the biggest reasoning for me to believe that she is the fake, is the fact that sweet characters like her tend to get a 180 degree personality change. I can definitely see her getting all evil and psycho xD.

Well I may be wrong and if I am, I can only think of Moura to be the fake, which could be very interesting as well actually.


Basically all my reasons for thinking it's her. That and when I first saw the promo with all the different characters my gut instinct said it was either her or ...yeah it was really just her. I did consider Adlet himself as some kind of twist but Nachetanya seemed more likely.
Sep 1, 2015 9:43 PM
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The animation this episode looked really good at some frames, the faces especially. I look forward to see Maura’s abilities in the next episode if they do reach him. I don’t think he convinced Flamie yet but maybe by the next episode he will. Nashitaniya on the other hand is weird, I don’t know but I have a very strong feeling now that she’s the one who activated the barrier. The action was really cool as well.
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One gotta be really dense to not have realized that this whole season is about solving the mystery of the 7th after watching 3/4th of the season.
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-Makkuro said:
As an anime-only. I can safely assume that the fake is Nashetania. There are just too many hints like her feeling weak in the Temple, acting all weird at the end of the episode. And the biggest reasoning for me to believe that she is the fake, is the fact that sweet characters like her tend to get a 180 degree personality change. I can definitely see her getting all evil and psycho xD.

Well I may be wrong and if I am, I can only think of Moura to be the fake, which could be very interesting as well actually.


I still don't understand why neither Adlet or Fremy have mentioned to Hans and Maura that Nashetania broke one of the tablets during her freakout session when they first realized they couldn't shut the barrier down. Hans and Maura will definitely suspect her once they realize she broke a tablet that could have contained instructions on shutting the barrier down.

I need to rewatch Episode 5 where Princess feels "faint". Did she do that during one of Adlet, Fremy or Goldov's recollections of the events from their POVs? That would explain why they would forget or overlook her breaking the tablet while narrating their version of the events.
Sep 2, 2015 11:29 AM

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The more I watch, more I think Nashetania is the fake one.
Sep 2, 2015 12:36 PM

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I seriously think the fake has to be Mora at this point. Every other character has had accusations and defenses at one point or another, but who of the group has even stopped to say, "Mora could be the seventh?" Even Chamo said Mora is the only one she wouldn't kill. I dunno, that's just extremely suspicious to me.

Although I'm not discounting the possibility, I still highly doubt it's Nashetania.



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Starcatcher07 said:
-Makkuro said:
As an anime-only. I can safely assume that the fake is Nashetania. There are just too many hints like her feeling weak in the Temple, acting all weird at the end of the episode. And the biggest reasoning for me to believe that she is the fake, is the fact that sweet characters like her tend to get a 180 degree personality change. I can definitely see her getting all evil and psycho xD.

Well I may be wrong and if I am, I can only think of Moura to be the fake, which could be very interesting as well actually.


I still don't understand why neither Adlet or Fremy have mentioned to Hans and Maura that Nashetania broke one of the tablets during her freakout session when they first realized they couldn't shut the barrier down. Hans and Maura will definitely suspect her once they realize she broke a tablet that could have contained instructions on shutting the barrier down.

I need to rewatch Episode 5 where Princess feels "faint". Did she do that during one of Adlet, Fremy or Goldov's recollections of the events from their POVs? That would explain why they would forget or overlook her breaking the tablet while narrating their version of the events.

maybe because it's not important
it was after adlet's recollection
Sep 2, 2015 5:35 PM

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Maura is definitely the most suspicious for me. Why is she so focussed on Adlet being the fake? She is trying to drill it into everyone that Adlet must be killed as if she is looking for a scapegoat.

Adlet seems to continue placing faith in Flamie for no reason this episode. Maybe I'm forgetting stuff but so far I think there really hasn't been any interaction between them that has made Flamie truly worth believing in. I think Adlet just has a soft spot for the vulnerable, which fits his character type.

I am pleased that Chamot's power isn't that good. So she summons weird squid monsters to fight for her, not the coolest of powers. It didn't take Hans and Adlet long to take her out. With all the build-up around her being the most powerful Saint, I was expecting there to be some intense battle that could only be stopped by Maura intervening.

So far in this series, Goldov and Nachetanya have to be the least interesting characters for me.
Sep 3, 2015 1:49 AM

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I am pleased that Chamot's power isn't that good. So she summons weird squid monsters to fight for her, not the coolest of powers. It didn't take Hans and Adlet long to take her out. With all the build-up around her being the most powerful Saint, I was expecting there to be some intense battle that could only be stopped by Maura intervening.

Chamo's power is really good. Just compare her to Nashetania: Chamo's summons are better at defending her, are self-targeting, can be deployed ahead of time to counter long activation time, can be used for scouting ahead...
But Chamo herself isn't that impressive. Even with her power compensating for some usual weaknesses of the saints, she still lacks experience and is no good at melee.

Comparing Chamo and Mora's powers is harder, they're too different.
Sep 3, 2015 2:08 PM

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Good action within the episode. Maura, god damn, stop trying to convince Hans that Adlet is the seventh! I've always thought that the princess was the seventh, but now I'm thinking is could be Maura. . .

Sep 3, 2015 3:12 PM

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Just watched all 9 episodes earlier today. Dank show. I did not expect it to still be on the mystery of the Seventh. I'd have raged if I had to wait each week since episode 1-2.
Sep 4, 2015 2:10 AM

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Just when I think I can safely assume someone isn't the seventh. Ugh xD I give up. I don't know who to suspect anymore.

Actually, I don't want to give up yet. But I'm not going to say much for this episode, because...Well I don't want to be wrong xD

By the way, now we know that Hans can cause people to hallucinate. I wonder if that will have any significance later on? Maybe some of their "facts" are hallucinations? But I don't want to suspect Hans anymore because I was just starting to like his character xD

*waits (im)patiently for next episode*
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If maura is the one tho,wouldnt it make Hans an accomplish?

Think she met hans along the way so its their alibi no?
Sep 4, 2015 4:19 AM

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Maura is suspicious because she is so gang-ho about killing Adlet(the seventh would like killing someone of the six that easily).
The princess is suspicious because of her really weird reaction in the temple that also seemed to break something.(an act to activate o break the deactivation?)
Gondolf is suspicious because he is so obsessed with the little princess he could easily follow her by faking himself as being one of the 6.(That means though that he isn't on the fiends side but he is just doing it for his own goals).
Hans is suspicious because his a murderer and quite capable of being devious. Not killing the main does not make it impossible for him actually being the seventh(Though considering he could kill at least two braves until now it does mean he has some strong arguments against being the seventh).
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It's too hard to find the culprit >.< For me it's still Maura and she manipulated Chamo to help her.
The story doesn't progress at all, but this anime is so good. The tension and the thinking are always present.
Sep 4, 2015 6:04 PM

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last scene made the bunny princess seem way to suspicious. It's her. I think Maura is just getting fooled as well.
Sep 6, 2015 6:53 PM

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Another great episode, the dialogue and character interactions are what makes this so good.
Sep 13, 2015 4:24 AM

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They defeated Chamoo :'(

Bunny hime is still suspicious.
Sep 21, 2015 4:07 PM

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There's only 3 more episodes left, and no progress has been made at all with defeating the fiends. They should have just named the series, "Rokka: Mystery of the 7th Brave"


Haha Ikr. We can pray for a sequel some day.
Sep 22, 2015 9:18 AM

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The first thing that I passed in the hall of the brain at the end of the episode, is split into two PC keyboard. Ah! That nervous, yet we proceed forward with the plot, I'm so stressed out by the immobility that reigns during the narration that does not know how to see the next episodes. I think at the end of the TV series, however, it will not come to a stalemate. But it also showed that the TV series, is transformed from a TV series based on fighting, to one where there is also a strong psychological component and full of mystery. Too bad the quality of the drawings is not very high, but just about enough in certain situations.
Sep 25, 2015 10:57 PM

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bobzanny said:
I've finally concluded how I feel about all the characters.
Bunny Girl-total slut.
Mora-fucking b*tch w/out reason.
Chamot-Goddamn psycho path.
Neko san-Badass who thinks logically.
Goldolf-Friendzoned slave.
Flamie-Cold b*tch who's very appealing.
Adlet-God damn strongest man in the world.


Nailed it. Nuff said.
Oct 3, 2015 8:21 PM

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Pretty solid development, but with three more episodes remaining I do wonder how this will end or if they'll make a second season (hopefully).
Oct 4, 2015 3:02 AM

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Another frustrating episode of "HOW WRONG CAN ADLET BE?" This is really getting old.
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Another frustrating episode of "HOW WRONG CAN ADLET BE?" This is really getting old.

Isn't it great how the MC doesn't just magically arrive at the right conclusion?
Oct 10, 2015 10:44 PM

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Some people really just don't understand what the plot is about this season ... asking why they don't solve the problem and go kill the demon king. How can you watch more than half a season and not realize what direction the anime is heading towards?

Read the frickin' synopsis! Also, they have been in the locked temple for 3-4 episodes now ... seriously.

It's like people just want to complain nowadays. Even if it's because of their own stupidity, they'd rather blame it on something else. It's not perfect and to your liking? It must suck! It's not because you're too much of an idiot to just drop the anime before you invested time into it . . .

You know . . . people watch anime besides shounen anime where things go boom and the characters fight for their nakama who are losing but through the power of friendship they gain the strength to prevail and win! Nothing about talking, because that's boring. Talking doesn't win fights! And nothing about mystery, because that's just filler time! Dragging out the anime. Boring! And please just let the mc guess everything right the first one or two times. Because we need him to figure out everything! And do it fast! Or else we're just going in circles!

And circles suck! That means the writers don't know how to write a plot that moves! Because people only want to watch anime where stuff moves fast! 20 manga chapters in an episode yeah! 10 light novels packed into one episode! yeah! That's the stuff.


Seriously, FUCK YOU GUYS.


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As for the actual episode . . . good stuff. I'm really liking the mc. I think he's been my favorite so far this year.

And my guess for the 7th is either nashetanya or maura. Nashetanya seems suspicious af - see unstable personality, throwing random fits in temple, and manipulative - and maura's ungrounded reasons for suspecting adlet make her seem like the 7th - the most knowledgeable of them all, but the least willing to do any investigating, suspects adlet with no more reason than the others.
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man this show is so awesome. fremy best girl
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bobzanny said:
I've finally concluded how I feel about all the characters.
Bunny Girl-total slut.
Mora-fucking bitch w/out reason.
Chamot-Goddamn psycho path.
Neko san-Badass who thinks logically.
Goldolf-Friendzoned slave.
Flamie-Cold bitch who's very appealing.
Adlet-God damn strongest man in the world.


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Good show is good. If this show doesn't get a second season I'm gonna stab myself.
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bobzanny said:
I've finally concluded how I feel about all the characters.
Bunny Girl-total slut.
Mora-fucking bitch w/out reason.
Chamot-Goddamn psycho path.
Neko san-Badass who thinks logically.
Goldolf-Friendzoned slave.
Flamie-Cold bitch who's very appealing.
Adlet-God damn strongest man in the world.


GGWP HAHA GGWP

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Lol, Adlet kicks Hans to capture Chamo.
Mora's a bit pushy, but at least she's very passionate.
Finally, Fremy wants to understand Adlet!
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i suspect moura tbh
Apr 16, 2016 6:31 PM

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Maura is weird. "It might be Adlet or someone else, so we just kill Adlet". Huh? Either you are convinced it's Adlet, then by all means, go kill him. Or you are still seriously trying to work it all out, find proof etc., then killing him is a bad idea.

And her arguments all work for all of the braves, including Flamie or even herself. And they only work if you are convinced that someone is the fake anyways, and assumes they have an elaborate plan instead of simply taking them out.

Flamie could have killed Adlet, Hans could have killed Adlet and Chamot and probably Maura, Adlet could have killed Flamie, Hans and Nachetanya.. so half would be dead, and they would be none the wiser. Of course it's easier to find the fake if there are only you and the fake left, but otherwise, nothing would have changed. The fake could still create the exact same kind of situation.

Also, just because the current Saint of Fogs couldn't instantly create so much Fog doesn't mean no one can. Maybe they didn't create fog directly, but just the right conditions. Maybe it wasn't even magically. Maybe there isn't even any fog, it's just an illusion? Or a mind trick? Which in turn doesn't have to be magical in nature, a lot of things can create either optical illusions or make the mind imagine things.

And regarding no two barriers: Flamie said one would be deactivated in the case of two barriers. Any proof that the barrier against fiends etc. is actually active?

Flamie said it pains her, but i would have to watch it closely again to see if that is undeniably about this barrier. And she could still be the fake, especially from the perspective of the other braves. The barrier didn't keep the fiend at the beginning away, Flamie is inside, and the fiends living in Chamot didn't have a problem, either. So far no real proof it's working.

And if they assume that soldier who told them is working with the seventh, they might have even more wrong. Heck, given that Maura didn't know how to active it before, she's not *that* knowledgable after all, so even things like how the barrier was created etc. could be wrong.

Btw, did anyone see how Hans was climbing around the ceiling in the previous episode? While it seems like no one did run it, activated the barrier and escaped without being seen by Adlet, Hans certainly is fast and sneaky enough to that, even if it currently looks like he isn't the fake.
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I'm done with making my own assumptions. I'll just watch it and let it unfold itself. But it's disappointing that the entire season will focus on finding out who the fake one is. There's a good chance that we won't get a second season and there's an even better chance that despite finding out who the fake is, they'd still travel all together to fight the Demon Lord. Lol.
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Glad they beat Chamot's ass.

Goldov better look away at my waifu's oppai. That's reserved for me alone.
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My ship is getting stronger but why are they using so much episodes for this fake Brave conflict?

Anways glad no one is seriously injuried this episode.
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what do u think is Adlet's answer to Fremy question near end

i bet Adlet will say i love u lol

who else wants to make that bet lol
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That was a cool fight, I enjoyed the teamwork between Hans and Adlet. Hans is definitely my favorite character in this show.
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One gotta be really dense to not have realized that this whole season is about solving the mystery of the 7th after watching 3/4th of the season.


I know right...

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I hope that Fremy will believes him... but Hans is an enemy again ? damn
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This episode just confirmed once again that Hans is best boy. Must protect the Nyan Cat.

As usual, that was a very intriguing episode. Once thing that is bothering me though, is how Fremy is receiving some kind of "special treatment" just because of her sad past. The show isn't even trying to make us believe she could be the seventh.
I mean, think about it, why wouldn't she be lying ? Why wouldn't she be faking her personality ? Her entire backstory could be false just to win her ennemies' sympathy, her passivity could be a way to stay out of the picture and casually watch the heroes fight each other, her bluntness could be a way to make it look like she simply isn't the type to lie and so cannot be lying about her own status, making it easy for people to believe her... After all that's what happened, right ? So why should we have to trust her more than the rest of the cast ? I trust Adlet because I know him from the beginning, I trust Hans because I got to know him too, I trust Chamot because her actions wouldn't make sense if she were the seventh...
But why should I trust Fremy, other than because the show is telling him to do so through giving her some sort of character arc ? For a show that is supppsed to be a mind game, she really doesn't fit in, it's a shame...
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Hans best bro. Not only his teamwork with Adlet was superb, now he's even trying to convince others about Adlet's innocence. But hey that still is going nowhere.

Just when Adlet came up with a theory, it was bashed down to the ground by Fremy, who also happens to have started trust him a bit.

I'm done with my theories at this point, but still with how weird Mora acted this episode, I'll still place my bet on her lol. Though again I guess we'll know the answer itself within next or the episode after that.
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