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| Ayase is awesome, my favorite char after Inori. I just love them both. Ayase's void was pretty damn cool, and it looks like shes developing some feelings for Shu as well. Lol at that pose at the end, it looked cool though. She and Shu actually matches very well. Looks like that old guy is still alive, fag is now trying to blockade them for 10 years?... Wtf is he trying to do now. Well seems like we've got a plot still going. |
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Zergneedsfood said: Every Void Shoe has ever drawn has been 100% fitting to the situation he is in without the terminology behind it been explained earlier which makes it Illogical placement and timing Deus Ex Machina. Karhu said: Zergneedsfood said: I've explained that if you actually watched each episodes with the Voids in them, you'll notice that the Voids aren't deus ex because they're not unexplainable and random events that saves the MC and everyone else. Anyone who watches the show closely can say "Yes, that Void makes sense in the context of what I saw this episode." So? That's only 1 type of an Deus Ex Machina. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusExMachina This is what Deus Ex Machina Guilty Crown uses with the Voids. Illogical placement and timing Deus Ex Machina — When something is established and explained in the work, but its use in that situation is jarring and impossible to believe. Guilty Crown uses lot of Dei Ex Machina, that is a fact. If you still disagree, then you have failed to understand what Deus Ex Machina means. But if you read that article and have better reading comprehension skills than a baboon, then you will agree with me and everyone else in this thread, that Voids are Dei Ex Machina. You make it sound like the Voids are impossible to believe, which I've already explained to you that it's not. The characters themselves are justifications for why those voids exist. If you're telling me to get better reading comprehension, just look at the show and see that the characters justify the existence of Voids. I'd like to stress that I don't think it was done very effectively, but at least I understand that it fits the context. I don't think agreeing with you guys is the one way to prove that I have better reading comprehension than a baboon, so lay off the personal attacks. I think I've defended quite well, and I talked specifically about about the deus ex machina you just linked. I'm not going to agree with you simply because I think you're wrong, and you guys just look at the Void and not at the person who got that thing extracted out of him/her. True, a few voids (like Tsugimi's) don't make as much sense as say Kuhuoin's or Hare's or Inori's (yes, her's makes sense after ep14), but at least someone who pays attention to the characters can probably draw links between the voids and their personalities. Just sayin' Do you happen to know that Deus Ex Machina isn't always even considered as a bad thing? Modern people have for some reason come to the belief that Deus Ex Machina is negative thing, this way of thinking is just lack of knowledge. When it is well-executed it looks even logical and is almost unnoticeable. Guilty Crown isn't like that, it's easy to notice. I think you are just fooled by those explanations of yours, while those don't actually change the usage of Voids from being Dei Ex Machina. Just trying to educate you, but I guess you just refuse to understand the points I make. If you still like to disagree then go ahead. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| Ayase's new powers reminded me of Lenalee lol. Also the new OP and ED are vastly inferior. |
| Ayase back to back with Shu was pretty cool. She just went up in my mental list of favorites in this show. Also, when is Shu going to wear that Gai-ish trenchcoat from the opening? |
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| With every episode after the one with Mana it feels like it begins to die out.. but it only has been 2 episodes after all. |
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iLostReason said: Loved new OP and ED, as always supercell FTW. XxRavenBloodxX said: Ayase's void is epic! Totally enjoyed how she fought along side Shu <3 |
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| I agree with them starting the cultural festival to lift the mood a little and keep everyone occupied instead of being gloomy... ^_^ I really like the new OP, Shu looks like he'll be pretty badass eventually. and then... The show still suffer from "Lets make it epic, don't have to be logical" writing... Guilty Crown is a fun watch, as long as you don't question a lot of things. Just watch it for the visual, humor and music... And indulge yourself in... Epic character moments... |
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| Shuu: I WILL NEVER USE MY POWER AGAIN >uses it in again in the same episode ( ¬‿¬) |
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| I found Ayase a much better option for Shuu than Inori. actually Hare or even Arisa.... even Tsugumi. just very meh at Inori. this seemed to be missing something and just a stop gap till what happened at the end. |
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| It seems like every week there's a new fanboy arguing with the haters about things that do not matter. Seriously guys. Just stop... I can't take it anymore. This will be the first series I have watched (since joining MAL) that I won't be reading the episode discussions. Thanks guys. I'm out. Enjoy your pointless crying and arguing. |
Sir_Lexa said: It seems like every week there's a new fanboy arguing with the haters about things that do not matter. Seriously guys. Just stop... I can't take it anymore. This will be the first series I have watched (since joining MAL) that I won't be reading the episode discussions. Thanks guys. I'm out. Enjoy your pointless crying and arguing. Should check out Ep15 Discussions before ya leave. |
Paul said: Sir_Lexa said: It seems like every week there's a new fanboy arguing with the haters about things that do not matter. Seriously guys. Just stop... I can't take it anymore. This will be the first series I have watched (since joining MAL) that I won't be reading the episode discussions. Thanks guys. I'm out. Enjoy your pointless crying and arguing. Should check out Ep15 Discussions before ya leave. Was episode 15 so bad that everyone agrees now? Don't spoil it though, haven't seen it yet. |
| I preferred the first OP but still like the second. Wasn't sure how this episode would play off as a school festival but i thought it went well. |
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| Okay, this episode was much better. I have a feeling Shu's going to be the new 'Gai' and start this big 'Undertaker' movement against 'evil' guy in this series. I'm kind of getting annoyed by that fact that everything is all about Shu now, as he is the chosen one. It's Shu there, Shu here, Shu everywhere. lol Give the other characters some love. |
"You need chaos in your soul to give birth to a dancing star." -Friedrich Nietzsche | Last.fm  |
Junigenmukyoku said: Okay, this episode was much better. I have a feeling Shu's going to be the new 'Gai' and start this big 'Undertaker' movement against 'evil' guy in this series. I'm kind of getting annoyed by that fact that everything is all about Shu now, as he is the chosen one. It's Shu there, Shu here, Shu everywhere. lol Give the other characters some love. I also think that the side characters should get more attention. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
| New Story with the same villains. The new void seems to be explained now and the loss of Gai is notable. If the OP is correct we'll be meeting Mana and Gai again. |
| Mixed feelings on this episode. Didn't really think a cultural festival was the best thing to do but the end really made up for it. New OP and ED. Really don't like the OP - the animation was cooler but starting to think that singer really cannot sing ... or I just don't like her voice. Don't like the voice of the ED singer either, but it was more my style than the previous one Liked how this focused on Ayase and her and "not helping" and her feelings about Gai dying, TBH I think everyone else should have felt something like this too. At least she didn't just forget about him or anything ... Lucky that the Voids can be used by their owners now I suppose ... I don't really like how Shu's power is "evolving" though, is he getting overpowered? DARYL IN A SCHOOL UNIFORM WAS SO AWESOME LOL ;P Epic at the end with Ayase and her new legs, the ending pose with her standing back to back with Shu was pretty cool actually! Although, it's a shame she can't have them "permanently" I suppose ... *sigh* Inori singing again, I wish we'd get past that. I don't even like her songs that much -_-" Dun dun dun, they're restricting the area ... wonder what that'll do. These new "Philantrophists" people ... they're just rioting? I wonder if they'll become more important ... |
| This episode was bad. |
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| Ayase is a bit annoying. Liked the OP. |
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| GHQ is the worst intelligence/special ops EVER and it's official. Let me work for them and all the terros (which are just as retarded) will be caught or dead in no time. HERP. |
| Meh. Okay episode. random bad guy attack on the school. |
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| This episode was fun. Pwheee |
| What, they're having a festival? How dare they! Kill all the happy people! I agree with everyone who says this episode was terrible, but there's something interesting about it. At least for me, most of it is either good or so bad it's good. It's like this mix of good and bad where the bad isn't actually hampering my enjoyment of the show. The "cool" pose was hilarious, her void was cheesy, the draconian shit was way over the top, etc. I loved all of it, though my favorite moment had to be Daryl licking the candy. |
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| Loved Ayase's Void. They make a great team tbh, Ayase & Shu |
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| I dont care how much of a coward Shu is, when he uses void, he is one fkin bad ass. Oh and wwesome OP and ED! :D |
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| It's a little weird seeing them as students. |
| Man, if I was the wheelchair girl, I would never put the void back =D. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| I can't take Souta seriously. Everytime I hear him speak, I always think of Shinpachi... |
| So many haters. I fucking love this. |
| Great new OP & ED, the episode it self was a bit slower but was a starter for a complete new challenge! The void from Ayase was quite cool and to see her in action was quite nice as well the ending of the fight was a bit bold but well wasn't bad! Lets see what's next! |
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| I love and hate this anime at the same time Awesome Animations Awesome music cool fights but some parts are soooooo lameeeee Really the scene where after the fighting standing with their back against each other is Laaameee! and guess what after the entire school witnessing their powers they have a concert yoohoo lets party the magic power people saved us previous episodes Singing makes the virus go away Defying gravity Love related crap all over the place I dont know if i can take this anymore |
| good new themes...Ayase has a fitting void...at least the plot keeps moving. |
| Welp, Shu reforming the Undertakers ? :3 |
| The same song is used over and over again which is starting to annoy me tbh. |
| "When life gives you lemons, make orange juice, then sit back and watch the world wonder how you did it." |
AirStyles said: Guilty Crown is a fun watch, as long as you don't question a lot of things. Just watch it for the visual, humor and music... And indulge yourself in... Epic character moments... yeah you're right This ep was okay, i guess those "philanthropists" have made their first and final appearance.. As for the OP & ED, now that's what i called awesomeness. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
| So far Ayase has the best Void so far but there is still Tsugumi's but i think that will happen so well i hope it will but this was a good episode all around. |
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| Hmm bein closed off for 10 years. |
| Aw, I'm gonna miss the old OP. That was one of the best OP's I've ever seen. The new one isn't bad, but it's not as good as the old one. Wow, Daryl is still alive, I really thought that he would have been dead by now. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but, Keido is president now?!?!? |
| I can Understand Some people who does not like the Opening...But I loved It!...I mean like When I watch This anime...I Say "There won't Be a Season 2"...So Shit Just Got Serious When They hit Episode 13...The Main Character looks Different...His face is more Sharp... |
| Front Hooks...Oh yeah... |
| Nice to see Ayase on her legs. |
| I think that the "oh, now i can draw out your Void and you won't pass out" thing is just something they had to do for the episode 12 because of Gai. For me, it doesn't really make any sense. And it isn't even that good, because now people don't forget that Shu drawn out their Voids so he can't really do that to whoever he wants. Imo, the openings and endings are worse than before (especially the opening). I like the animation in the ending, though. Also, why can't I go to an EGOIST concert?! |
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MastaJ said: The same song is used over and over again which is starting to annoy me tbh. she only knows one song. fucking japs and their obsession with festivals. gai knew all along what wheelchair girl's void was but never told her, shu or anyone else. what a cunt. |
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| wheelchair lady is such a bitch. |
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