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Jan 15, 2012 7:19 AM

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Seriously, is Kanade really the best character? I mean how did people know that she was / will be when she only had 10 minutes of screentime and died afterwards like some sacrificial lamb which all happened in the first episode? Lol. A lot of people have the ability of foresight I sometimes wish I had one.
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MeleDeGame said:
Come on, there are only 2 episodes, just wait for the rest to start off.


Wait for what? Watching Hibiki grow as a person? Give me a break. Maybe for the yuri factor with her friend but other then that....

Silent_Scream said:
Seriously, is Kanade really the best character? I mean how did people know that she was / will be when she only had 10 minutes of screentime and died afterwards like some sacrificial lamb which all happened in the first episode?


Some of the people here are ranting with a reason. I saw few of the posts asking what is different about Kanade, besides yours. Didn't they see a first episode? People took a liking of her because of her ''senpai''-like attitude and strong personality that was shown on a few occasions. I'll give you two examples. First was where she gave advice to Tsubasa before the concert and second is where jumps to help those people despite Tsubasa's objection that they shouldn't as they didn't hear anything from command. Plus her design was downright beautiful and I would take her instead of overused happy person like Hibiki.

But of course, Hibiki will not stay like this. I can already see her going through all sorts of drama in the future and will grow up to some extend. But that would mean something to me if I cared about her kind in the first place. So yeah, now that Kanade is down, Tsubasa is the only thing I'm interested in seeing, unless she kicks a bucket in a few episodes as well.
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Crimson_Cloud said:
Some of the people here are ranting with a reason. I saw few of the posts asking what is different about Kanade, besides yours. Didn't they see a first episode? People took a liking of her because of her ''senpai''-like attitude and strong personality that was shown on a few occasions. I'll give you two examples. First was where she gave advice to Tsubasa before the concert and second is where jumps to help those people despite Tsubasa's objection that they shouldn't as they didn't hear anything from command. Plus her design was downright beautiful and I would take her instead of overused happy person like Hibiki.


Sorry but I guess I'm quite dense. As you can see I just couldn't feel attached to a character that was introduced and was killed off in the same episode appearing only for 10 minutes. Unlike Kamina in TTGL, I see Kanade's death more as a plot device rather than an emotionally striking event. But maybe that's because of the script, since it's all over the place.
Jan 15, 2012 9:51 AM

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The opening song was nice.
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I'm having trouble caring about ANY of the characters besides Miku.

Seriously. Kanade died in the first 5-10 minutes of episode 1. No time to get attached.

And we already know Hibiki is going to die (revealing this in episode 1 was a stupid choice on the studio's part, in my opinion) so I'm pretty much checked out in trying to care about her or her growth knowing that she's just gonna die in the end. I'm not saying that character growth is pointless when death is involved. I'm saying that it'll hurt less when she dies if I don't care.
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This ep was quite retarded.
The start with the singing and lips out of sync(she didn`t sing every word). Did she sing them in her head? :P
Doubt I`ll give this anime more then a 6.

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Quit a bad second episode. I'll lie if i say i didn't expect it. No matter how they tried to conceal it with drama in the first episode it was obvious that the show is a little child like.

Also losing the red haired girl to have this silly girl in her place as protagonist isn't a good thing. We have seen her type all too many times. Let me guess she's silly and a goof but with a bad past and amazing talent blah blah blah ad will make everyone love her blah blah blah.

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Crimson_Cloud said:
This anime would have been awesome for me if Kanade was alive...

Oh yes. My fav char died in first ep.
For me the show is something like Neon Genesis Madoka Magica, but still entertaining.
Oh, and the ED has these wonderful graphics of decaying bodies. Sweet.


Yah as i said above Kanade would have been a better character to have.

The problem is that unlike both those shows you mentioned it lacks the dark realistic feeling and gives a vibe like you are watching a child show with elements of other more worked shows.

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what people should not fail to notice on the positive side of things is it’s ecchi of the 90s.

That's not ecchi of the 90s.
In the OP the nudity is symbology, most likely to hint at the openness, honesty, and connection between the two characters.
This kneejerk reaction over the slightest bit of nudity is getting tiresome. Some people should take a art history class for a little enlightenment so that they can stop jumping to the most depraved conclusions.


You are right but this is Yumekichi11 we are talking about. He will analyze every frame and find the echii angle in everything.
If they make an anime about the birth of Christ i expect him to post a pic of Mary's ass. And ironically even make a comment on how her ass was too obvious and he doesn't approve although he was the only one who saw it like that. Lol.
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Monad said:
Quit a bad second episode. I'll if i say i didn't expect it. No matter how they tried to conceal it with drama in the first episode it was obvious that the show is a little child like.

Also losing the red haired girl to have this silly girl in her place as protagonist isn't a good thing. We have seen her type all too many times. Let me guess she's silly and a goof but with a bad past and amazing talent blah blah blah ad will make everyone love her blah blah blah.
You missed the point that Hibiki has mass chances of developing a lot. Something many who made this wanted you to see. They want to see how hard it is to become from the start being a Symphogear person. Not matter how much of Kanade there would never be a possibility of that because Kanade was PRO already.
Monad said:
Anime_Name said:
what people should not fail to notice on the positive side of things is it’s ecchi of the 90s.

That's not ecchi of the 90s.
In the OP the nudity is symbology, most likely to hint at the openness, honesty, and connection between the two characters.
This kneejerk reaction over the slightest bit of nudity is getting tiresome. Some people should take a art history class for a little enlightenment so that they can stop jumping to the most depraved conclusions.


You are right but this is Yumekichi11 we are talking about. He will analyze every frame and find the echii angle in everything.
If they make an anime about the birth of Christ i expect him to post a pic of Mary's ass. And ironically even make a comment on how her ass was too obvious and he doesn't approve although he was the only one who saw it like that. Lol.
Misunderstanding, I do loads of analyze but the results of my finding were of the anime being 90s style for its ecchi/setups and I have someone else who agrees with me so I am not alone to think that. I am also right being less provocative than if it would have nipples. That's all really, the 90s were good for that and as a result there was more ecchi and now less with more shitty problems from complaints. That's it really, before it was like this is, there were less problems.

Start being provocative perverted shit and you see people like Ishihara. Between this and DxD, the latter would get hit first by the any censors. There's another anime doings this called Aqua Evol.

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Well Kanade is voiced by Two-Mix pro singer and one of my favourite VA. I'm sorry but Yuuki Aoi (Hibiki) can't sing <_<
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Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM

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This is nothing like Madoka. Sure the main character has the same voice as Kaname madoka but the plot is nothing alike..so why are ppl saying it is?

7/10 its okay.
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Monad said:
Quit a bad second episode. I'll if i say i didn't expect it. No matter how they tried to conceal it with drama in the first episode it was obvious that the show is a little child like.

Also losing the red haired girl to have this silly girl in her place as protagonist isn't a good thing. We have seen her type all too many times. Let me guess she's silly and a goof but with a bad past and amazing talent blah blah blah ad will make everyone love her blah blah blah.
You missed the point that Hibiki has mass chances of developing a lot. Something many who made this wanted you to see. They want to see how hard it is to become from the start being a Symphogear person. Not matter how much of Kanade there would never be a possibility of that because Kanade was PRO already.


So for them to develop a character the character must always be a complete naive noob with child behavior? Maybe they just lack talent then.
Humans can constantly learn and develop through their lives, even a more assertive character like Kanade could have places to grow and actually it seems more impressive when a feature of such character grows than always having this white paper noobs that just need to grow everywhere because they are half idiots. Basically it shows the lack of talent the creators have since they take the easy root by having such characters develop that have nowhere to go BUT develop since any lower they will be intolerable.
They lack the ability to take a character with a more mature personality and self-awareness and give him even new dimensions so they have to put us threw a tone of episodes basically watching an idiot. Well if that's the case then why is it exactly a better choice to have character growth and not just have an established character that doesn't need to grow? At least we avoid the painful stupidity. Character growth isn't the epitome of having a good story.
Is not that i hate the idea of having a character with no experience in something and see such a character grow but why does even the personality of such character has to be so naive, silly and unrealistic?
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Monad said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Monad said:
Quit a bad second episode. I'll if i say i didn't expect it. No matter how they tried to conceal it with drama in the first episode it was obvious that the show is a little child like.

Also losing the red haired girl to have this silly girl in her place as protagonist isn't a good thing. We have seen her type all too many times. Let me guess she's silly and a goof but with a bad past and amazing talent blah blah blah ad will make everyone love her blah blah blah.
You missed the point that Hibiki has mass chances of developing a lot. Something many who made this wanted you to see. They want to see how hard it is to become from the start being a Symphogear person. Not matter how much of Kanade there would never be a possibility of that because Kanade was PRO already.


So for them to develop a character the character must always be a complete naive noob with child behavior? Maybe they just lack talent then.
Humans can constantly learn and develop through their lives, even a more assertive character like Kanade could have places to grow and actually it seems more impressive when a feature of such character grows than always having this white paper noobs that just need to grow everywhere because they are half idiots. Basically it shows the lack of talent the creators have since they take the easy root by having such characters develop that have nowhere to go BUT develop since any lower they will be intolerable.
They lack the ability to take a character with a more mature personality and self-awareness and give him even new dimensions so they have put us threw a tone of episodes basically watching an idiot. Well if that's the case then why is it exactly a better choice to have character growth and not just have an established character that doesn't need to grow? At least we avoid the painful stupidity. Character growth isn't the epitome of having a good story.
Is not that i hate the idea of having a character with no experience in something and see such a character grow but why does even the personality of such character has to be so naive, silly and unrealistic?
Well though out argument. Sometimes you have to think that easy does = to less resources spent so that may be one reason considering the SFX and other things in this series.

On the other hand to have teenagers associate with them. Finally most likely because it shows their innocence in a certain way. That being dragged into something they did not want. Hibiki never wanted this therefore she never understood any of it. That means she is naive and silly in all this. I will leave at that.

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I still dont find this anime so awesome as many people said on the 1st ep discussion. Songs are nice, but it looks dam weird and not nice when they sing in middle of a fight.
3/5 gonna keep watching thought
Jan 16, 2012 8:55 AM

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Guys! Remember the first episode scene. Hibiki will eventually die so everything is OK!
Your right lol! Something to look forward to?

Watching Tsubasa go all depressed when she remembers Kanade brought tears to my eyes. The way she reacts and rejects Hibiki is just what I expected and wanted. Love her even more for doing that. Cmon go kill Hibiki and just work alone lol. :D Favorite character not counting the late Kanade!

Ugh... seeing that always cheerful Hibiki in the same gear just doesn't work, doesn't look right imo. It looks really awkward when she and Tsubasa stand together, it doesn't fit at all. Its not that I hate her or anything either, its just that I don't like her for replacing Kanade. I'd probably like her a lot if that incident didn't happen. Maybe my opinion will change as the show goes on meh.

Songs are still awesome and I just can't wait for the soundtracks to come out. Love the OP / ED as well. Still enjoying the show a lot so I am lookin forward to the next episode.

Wait so why is Kanade a main character?
Jan 16, 2012 1:51 PM

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I'm interested in the relationship between Miku and Hibiki and their yuri vibes too. Too bad that is pretty much the only thing what interests me in this anime...
Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM
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I'm interested in the relationship between Miku and Hibiki and their yuri vibes too.

Ditto. I think I've never cared about an anime couple so much in so little time - that's how beautifully it was done IMHO. When they told Hibiki to keep it a secret from -everyone-, i instantly thought "No way! How could she cope with not telling her?".

Apart from that, I don't know how to feel. I think I'm gonna have a very hard time rating this even when it's finished. On one hand Hibiki is very likable and kept it from going super-depressing - on the other hand I have to agree with Monad, too.

Teasing the audience with a cool and mature main character only to throw her away shortly after for the standard genki girl (and announcing -her- certain early death while they're at it) is really bad style. It was to be expected that several people will be disappointed or even annoyed by this.

But as I already said, I'm still undecided on how to feel about it as a whole. It might still end up being a decent show, but I'm sceptical about it.
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I thought Tsubasa was just a little butthurt about seeing her partner's powers used by someone else. But this is beyond butthurt. I'm starting to think she wants to chop Hibiki up into little pieces.

I'm still not very excited about the show so far, and the singing while doing battle is still more weird than awesome to me at the moment, but I will persevere.

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Monad said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Monad said:
Quit a bad second episode. I'll if i say i didn't expect it. No matter how they tried to conceal it with drama in the first episode it was obvious that the show is a little child like.

Also losing the red haired girl to have this silly girl in her place as protagonist isn't a good thing. We have seen her type all too many times. Let me guess she's silly and a goof but with a bad past and amazing talent blah blah blah ad will make everyone love her blah blah blah.
You missed the point that Hibiki has mass chances of developing a lot. Something many who made this wanted you to see. They want to see how hard it is to become from the start being a Symphogear person. Not matter how much of Kanade there would never be a possibility of that because Kanade was PRO already.


So for them to develop a character the character must always be a complete naive noob with child behavior? Maybe they just lack talent then.
Humans can constantly learn and develop through their lives, even a more assertive character like Kanade could have places to grow and actually it seems more impressive when a feature of such character grows than always having this white paper noobs that just need to grow everywhere because they are half idiots. Basically it shows the lack of talent the creators have since they take the easy root by having such characters develop that have nowhere to go BUT develop since any lower they will be intolerable.
They lack the ability to take a character with a more mature personality and self-awareness and give him even new dimensions so they have to put us threw a tone of episodes basically watching an idiot. Well if that's the case then why is it exactly a better choice to have character growth and not just have an established character that doesn't need to grow? At least we avoid the painful stupidity. Character growth isn't the epitome of having a good story.
Is not that i hate the idea of having a character with no experience in something and see such a character grow but why does even the personality of such character has to be so naive, silly and unrealistic?


Well said.

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MasterSpark11 said:
Apart from that, I don't know how to feel. I think I'm gonna have a very hard time rating this even when it's finished. On one hand Hibiki is very likable and kept it from going super-depressing - on the other hand I have to agree with Monad, too.

Teasing the audience with a cool and mature main character only to throw her away shortly after for the standard genki girl (and announcing -her- certain early death while they're at it) is really bad style. It was to be expected that several people will be disappointed or even annoyed by this.

But as I already said, I'm still undecided on how to feel about it as a whole. It might still end up being a decent show, but I'm sceptical about it.


This. Yeah, I'm glad you pointed it out too, it was such a disappointing/deflating tease due to how good/unusually mature/really cool, supposed main character Kanade was only to really be purposefully baiting-and-switching her so quickly for the standard genki girl.
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Guys! Remember the first episode scene. Hibiki will eventually die so everything is OK!


lol That was mean

Poor Hibiki I don't dislike her :( at the moment I dislike Tsubasa ¬¬ is such a ...

I still don't understand what's going on on this anime .-. looking forward next episode :3
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I'm not sure where that episode came out of. That was pretty disappointing considering the first episode left such a good impression! I'm a little displeased. I think the setup was great, but the get-go was a failure. I've seen this type of scenario a MILLION times before. But, with way better stories to back it up. And less useless character lines that don't make sense. Ugh, oh well. Looking forward to the next!
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Dropped

I had high hopes for this after reading the description too..
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Anyone here can tell me how are the reactions from Japanese audience? Kinda interested to see what they thought of this twist.
Jan 20, 2012 6:18 AM

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Very good,I really like how they don't call their skills but show it instead,I always thought it was dumb while liking it the same time.That shoujo-ai I am scared of it.Hope it does not blossom.
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Well Kanade is voiced by Two-Mix pro singer and one of my favourite VA. I'm sorry but Yuuki Aoi (Hibiki) can't sing <_<
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Jan 28, 2012 3:41 AM

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well lol, first episode was really cool, but.. oh man this episode is just FAIL!!!
so boring!!
the singing when fighting was really annoying and lame ewww what the hell lol

the blue haired girl also annoying

the guy with weird eyebrow is also annoying

the bouncy boobs woman is also annoying
Feb 1, 2012 4:17 AM

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A step up from the previous episode, mainly because of Tsubasa, though Hibiki's reactions were pretty entertaining. Her relationship with Miku had some yuri undertones, I wonder how it will affect the story. 4/5.
Feb 1, 2012 7:28 PM

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"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" I can't believe they actually said that xD
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I liked this episode, but the depth of Hibiki's Character seems lacking. yeah she's a younger girl. So what? I mean, is she that wrapped up in what's happened to her that she doesn't realize how Tsubasa may feel about Kanade's dying to protect her?

Hrms. who knows. Not sure if I like or not, the actual fighting seems a bit... lame? And I can do with a shorter transform sequence but it might have promise.
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the main girl is stupid "oh hey I have power let me fight even though I don't have training or know what I'm doing". easy to see why the other girl is annoyed after her friend got killed.

I never really like the singing while fighting thing either. seems rather mediocre so fair, might keep watching for now.
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This episode is ALOT better then the first episode. I wasnt annoyed at all . Do not feel rushed or irregular at all. it flows pretty well and i enjoyed it . Hope they can keep it up for the rest of the anime .

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Tsubasa should stop the tsundere attitude.

Concept feels familair somehow.
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Good episode.
Anyone going into this expecting too much will be disappointed.

4.5/5
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This sure is one hell of a good anime! Really nice development and that ending was impressive, so lets see what's next!
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(rewatching)

I never really thought much about what they do to cleanup dead noise... Vacuum cleaners, it's genius!
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Seriously, what's Tsubasa's problem now.
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Better than Madoka.


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Something tells me that this show is gonna get dark...maybe because Hibiki is a little too happy-go-lucky.

I liked both the OP and the ED, and the transformation scene wasn't bad. I can't decide if the music and singing -> power thing is cool or stupid, but either way I like it! xD
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Got to feel a bit sympathetic for Tsubasa there. The sudden arrival of someone else with the relic that her friend and companion once used is always going to bring back painful memories.

Hibiki doesn't seem to understand this, though, and keeps pushing towards the person who is basically her idol, which just makes the situation worse.
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So its been two years since Kanade's death. That quite some time. Why do Hibiki and Miku sleep in the same bed! Hmm!

"Your life in like that of an anime character." LOL

"How about we fight each other?" What!?

Lots of things were explained this episode. Good. All they need to do explain is what Noise is and what they want. Good episode!
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Great episode!!

I'm liking the action so far. Hibiki survives and the shards from Kanade's symphogear managed to save her life even though at first it killed her.

I'm watching the OP in BD, and it does remind me of Gundam Seed/Destiny/Macross Frontier at times XD

ED looks very disturbing as hell though :O

Crazy fast paced song, with naked bodies being shown in different angles.

There's lots of Yuri themes here. Won't be surprised if they "explore" it more as we go forward :P

Tsubasa strong as ever!! Still can't believed Hibiki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi. She really sounds different here :O

Can't wait for the next episode!
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"Hey you're under arrest, stop smiling, shit's about to get serious."
*suddenly celebration party*

Looks like Tsubasa has some emotional turmoil to work through, what with Hibiki acquiring the power of her dead friend and it being technically her fault that she's dead. I wasn't expecting her to straight-up turn a sword on her at the end though. Things are about to get crazy.

I can tell they're dumping all the animation budget in the fight scenes, and it works for me. They look really cool.
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...the second set of handcuffs really made me laugh.

A good episode. I'm enjoying this anime.
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What the hell is Tsubasa's problem?

When Kanade was getting overwhelmed, all she did was yell kanade's name from like 10 meters away.

The whole fighting suddenly stopped while Kanade goes to rescue hibiki

When Kanade decided to do a kamikaze attack, Tsubasa just.. yelled her name. from like 5 meters away instead of physically stopping her or do... anything helpful.

She really had no right to even be remotely angry at Hibiki when she didn't do anything to help even though she was perfectly capable to do. Hibiki didn't want this.

Unreasonable butt-hurt characters like this is very obnoxious and plain annoying to see. I hope she improves soon or it's going to be very hard to continue to watch this show
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Well I am damn impressed with Hibiki's new form in the following,
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Better than Madoka.
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While this series has some good elements, and it’s been and inspiration to scenes in Cross Ange & HSL, operetta isn’t my thing, so I’m outta here.
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This was nothing like I expected. So much happened in one episode that I'm not sure what to think. I don't remember when was the last time I've seen so many deaths and destruction in an anime.

I feel bad for Tsubasa since Kanade meant soo much to her.

Why is this series starting to turn out like YGO all of a sudden~
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Great episode!!

I'm liking the action so far. Hibiki survives and the shards from Kanade's symphogear managed to save her life even though at first it killed her.

I'm watching the OP in BD, and it does remind me of Gundam Seed/Destiny/Macross Frontier at times XD

ED looks very disturbing as hell though :O

Crazy fast paced song, with naked bodies being shown in different angles.

There's lots of Yuri themes here. Won't be surprised if they "explore" it more as we go forward :P

Tsubasa strong as ever!! Still can't believed Hibiki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi. She really sounds different here :O

Can't wait for the next episode!

This was nothing like I expected. So much happened in one episode that I'm not sure what to think. I don't remember when was the last time I've seen so many deaths and destruction in an anime.

I feel bad for Tsubasa since Kanade meant soo much to her.

Why is this series starting to turn out like YGO all of a sudden~

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The story is getting more interesting.

Both OP and ED looks visually pleasing.

That cliffhanger.

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KiraboShikari said:
Better than Madoka.


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