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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Yang's tactics still manage to impress. Provoking Bittenfeld to fight was a given, but also being able to keep him at bay in the rear beforehand, while providing a false show of force in the front was the real winning move. This allowed him to continue his fight uninterrupted. It should be interesting how he handles both the front and rear when the main force arrives. He won't be able to psych them out with a show of force anymore. |
 ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| The first step of this battle was so impressive anf thrilling. Yang indeed deserves his title of magician as he transformed what seemed an advantage for the empire army at first glance (they are more numerous by far) into a disadvantage! I was kind of suprised by how this concluded. |
| So, the first loss goes to the Empire. At least Yang will go down with a fight, if he loses. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| never expected that Farenhei will die first..wonder who is next |
| Once again the enemy fell into Yang's magic. RIP Fahrenheit. |
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| A very interesting episode. So, Fahrenheit is the first one to die, didn't expect this. RIP |
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| R.I.P Fahrenheit. I saluted with the soldiers as well :( |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Fahrenheit was an unexpected loss. It appeared he walked a similar path to Reinhard and ultimately found himself under his command. Rest in peace. Yang and his magic work wonders yet again by fooling Mecklinger and baiting Bittenfield into attacking first. The show continues until Fahrenheit decides to pick him up from the Montecito, but ends up buying tickets himself. He then finishes up his act with a wonderfu lazer light show. Very impressive. |
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| that was unexpected tho i knew someone would die.. meh the Alliance is 30% destroyed now tho x( |
| RIP Fahrenheit. He seemed like one of the coolest Admirals in my opinion. His death scene was one of the most epic so far. |
| Great episode, The Teacher beats the Student (Merkatz and Fahrenheit).. I would've prefered Bittenfeld dying instead, but this show mostly kills off likeable characters (Kircheis, Jessica, Bucock...) as it seems :/ |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Adelbert von Fahrenheit, rest in peace. Wow, that was such a touching scene where he told the boy to live as a token of his own life. On to the next ep!! |
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| Yang won but wasn't this kind of fighting rahter bad for him? He lost a lot of ships i guess. What if he encounters the main fleet? |
| Fahrenheit died because of Bittenfeld's short temper :\ too bad he didn't have many moments in the anime,but he still was a good guy... so RIP man ;( Yang managed to win the first fight,but i wonder for how long will this continue :\ maybe he'll get a second chance against Lohengram :D,and maybe this time he'll shoot lol 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Great episode, The Teacher beats the Student (Merkatz and Fahrenheit).. I would've prefered Bittenfeld dying instead, but this show mostly kills off likeable characters (Kircheis, Jessica, Bucock...) as it seems :/ And I would've preferred if Merkatz died |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Confucius said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Great episode, The Teacher beats the Student (Merkatz and Fahrenheit).. I would've prefered Bittenfeld dying instead, but this show mostly kills off likeable characters (Kircheis, Jessica, Bucock...) as it seems :/ And I would've preferred if Merkatz died I wish you'd just stop saying that. He's not going to just drop dead just because you want him to... |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Sadening. I was hoping that damn Bittenfield would go out in a blaze of stupidity. Not calm collected Fahrenheit. |
| Ah my man Fahrenheit ;_; RIP I can tell this isn't going to be the only big death in this war |
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| They said it themselves- Bittenfeld has suffered so many losses but he himself hasn't died yet. You could say his idiocy instigated Fahrenheit's death here. But then, Fahrenheit did say that it was his own fault for falling for it. These battles are still as good as ever, but Yang is sometimes just TOO good at predicting what the enemy commanders are going to do. It'd be a bit more exciting if Yang were outwitted sometimes. Never seems to happened. |
"A detoxified Akihabara would just be another electronic town!"  |
Luthimal said: The Empire deserved to lose, falling for such an obvious ambush That's because they were a bunch of idiots. Not one of them could sit and think. Reinhard should give positions to smarter people. |
| One of the better battles of the series. I'm starting to find Yang's skills a bit too magical. A big part of his genius is that he sets a trap that the enemy will see through, anticipating their response and having a second trap waiting. But for such a thing to work, he would have to know that the enemy is not going to fall for the first trap. This battle had the enemy falling for the secondary trap in the beginning but also for the first traps later in the battle when the decisions have to be made more quickly. Yang's ability to discern when the enemy can see through the first trap seems a bit too incredible. After all, it doesn't seem like he has one trap set and another one in case the first fails, but the plan all along is for the enemy to see through the first one. So if they actually did fall for the first trap, the enemy might be better off. |
| Bittenfeld and Fahrenheit definitely pulled some punches that caught the Yang Fleet off-guard -- to be honest, I thought they handled themselves somewhat well. And this was probably a Pyrrhic victory for Yang anyway, even though it was necessary. But here's some retrospective irony from episode 72: Reinhard said: If Bittenfeld exercised too much prudence, that would take away the strength of the Black Lancers. |
CuriousThingMay 15, 2012 9:09 PM
| This battle reminds me of the Battle of Thermopylae... |
| R.I.P Fahrenheit You were awesome. ;_; |
| i cant bear to watch this battle~ always falling to the trap of Yang Wenli... |
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| my second fav among the imperial admirals died :( RIP Farenheit |
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| quite many people die in batle field as always. "Shostakovich, Symphony no. 5, Allegro non troppo" is nice choice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarFI7r2shY |
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Shaduge said: It's only natural to lose when you have PLOT as your enemy, besides plot armor, he uses cheap tricks and gets access to environment advantage everytime he fights this is completely laughable, just like when that shenkophwhatever guy keeps killing everyone but can't be killed, just like his daughter who doesn't die, completely laughable. haha yea, totally ridiculous. I just dont get it, how come you managed to watch 70 + eps of this piece of garbage anime..its beyond me |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Goodbye Fahrenheit :/ |
| Oh my. I really didn't expect one of the admirals to die, although I can't agree with the logic behind it (why would you place the most important person as the rear guard when retreating?) Anyways, I'm sure that this news is going to piss off Reinhard quite a bit. I wonder if this is going to be the beginning of his fall. |
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| Damn it why couldnt bittenfield had been the first to die, Fahrenheit was actually a pretty interesting character who i felt could had been used alot more, his death was excellent. And so we have it, the first death of likely many more major supporting characters and possibly main characters. I really dont like the idea of anyone on yang's team dying cause i legitimately like them all but i have a bad feeling its going to be dusty first. that or yang whos death flags are way too heavy at the moment. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| NOOO. Fahrenheit was so cool. Goddamnit Bittenfield, talk about forcing his hand. The floodgates are open it would seem, I'm expecting a lot more big deaths to come in this battle. |
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| "Die Kaiser!" Best warcry ever. |
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| Dammit there goes another likeable character >_> Shaduge said: It's only natural to lose when you have PLOT as your enemy, besides plot armor, he uses cheap tricks and gets access to environment advantage everytime he fights this is completely laughable, just like when that shenkophwhatever guy keeps killing everyone but can't be killed, just like his daughter who doesn't die, completely laughable. I'm wondering if they nicknamed him Yang the Magician just to troll people. Some of the stunts he pulls seem to come right out of his ass lol. |
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| I liked this episode, It had some good strategy. It was good that Farenheit actually put up a fight and that Yang actually had difficulty. |
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| So when it comes to Yang he can do any dishonest thing, but when it comes to Reinhard he must beat him rightfully. Now I understand Reinhard's ego, but when you deal with such an annoyance, whoever you are you WILL do what's neccesary to eliminate him. Now a few episodes ago I've said that I hoped a bloody death for Yang's side, then until this episode I was exposed to "cuteness" of Yang's side, but as seen in this episode, they don't hold back when it comes to killing good, honest people. Now sure "that is war", but killing an annoyance dishonestly to get rid of his dishonesty is "also war". If I was Reinhard I would hang Yang first time we met. And I wouldn't have any regrets. I WOULD feel sorry, but I would not regret it. Because you are judged by what you do, not what you can do. Yang had every chance to change his opinion but he kept killing people and feeling "so-colled sorry" for them. That is hypocrite and deserves death. I learned this life-lesson from... Dragon Age: Origins. There when everytime I forgave someone they would backstab me the moment I turned around and then I learned to kill them without mercy. When there's no law you simply have to react the same way you have been treated. Not an inch less. Killing a murderer. That is justice. Sometimes the saying "in war everything is fair" is really true. And you have to be prepared for it. That is why Griffith is above Reinhard in my favorites. |
RememberTheCantApr 6, 2015 4:08 PM
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| Very nice battle, RIP Farenheit :( I think he and Bittenfeld didn't communicate enough te be succesfull (or they didn't show it in the anime) |
| What is the most cowardly and shameful thing in human conduct? It's when people with power and people who flatter them hide in safe places and extol war, force patriotism and self-sacrifice on others, then send them to the battlefield to die. For the sake of peace in the universe, before we continue this fruitless war with the Empire, mustn't we first start by exterminating such evil parasites? - Yang Wenli |
| Great battle episode, really intense and I do wonder how it will turn out! Let's see what's next. |
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| Cool battle.Rip Fahrenheit . |
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| Rest in peace Farenheit |
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| I guess I only had a vague understanding of how the corridors and space navigation worked prior to this. I thought they were just areas that were off the radar. I didn't realize that their ships could actually be destroyed by venturing out too far. This battle was especially intense and gripping, I salute Fahrenheit as he was one of my favorite admirals early on. |
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| It was about time an Imperial Admiral bite the dust...it was nice knowing ya Fahrenheit! Hopefully Bittenfield is the next one on the chopping block. |
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| This battle is so exciting. Great episode. |
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