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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I definitely don't trust that Kei girl.. However, I think the info dump this episode was useful with hthe ranking system. Ren and Kei has a weird fake relationship now...honestly, I was disappointed that Ayase didn't see through it. Not surprised that Ren got caught in another fight and got outmatched. That Rot Spinne guy creeps me out tbh. |
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| It's amazing how much more enjoyable this can be when they don't rush through 80% of the content. Still some glaring issues, but overall it's another step up from their previous episodes. (Most glaring issue being the constant fade to black transitions. God those are getting to be annoying. Just fill the space with static imagery or something.) |
GemTasticalNov 3, 2017 10:28 AM
| I enjoyed, at least it gives us some answers on episode 0 (like what, before going down the anime for a lot of people, it is better to wait for a clarification, it is not looking at 2 or 3 episodes that we can judge all anime) Finally, we see Reinhard Heydrich, I think the next episodes will accelerate the situation, and I hope other answers because there is still a lot of shadows. |
| So Ren is going to be trained to become stronger so the people from the Longinus Dreizhn Orden black round table can defeat him. It was amusing when he told Kasumi he's in a relationship with Kei. He managed to defeat Spinne. |
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| I hope this episode satisfied people's wish for some info-dumps. Anyway, the scene with Sakurai (the one at night) was a little shorter than I hoped. I really wanted to see Sakurai shooting Ren in the hand with a gun, lol. Ren's fake relationship with Sakurai came a little earlier than I remember. Not that I complain, it was funny. The fight with Spinne was shorter and a little different from the VN. They didn't explain Spinne's motivation for wanting to ally with Ren (he wanted to stop Reinhard coming into this world). Trifa is starting to reveal himself, sneaky bastard. Even if they actually adapted all of chapter 4 of the VN, this was way better paced than episode 3. Also, my theory that they want to get thru the common route as fast as possible is becoming true. |
ovy7Nov 3, 2017 11:21 AM
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| Also for the VN readers How do you feel about the slightly anime only approach they're going for here? Since events seem to be different from how they transpired in the VN. |
kdog1000 said: Also for the VN readers How do you feel about the slight anime only approach they're going for here? Since events seem to be different from how they transpired in the VN. It's a little weird, honestly. The scene with Ren revealing that his dating Sakurai was nice, actually. On the other hand, when Ren ripped off all his limbs was cringy to watch. Also, the design of his formation is different from the VN, probably because here Ren was very angry with Spinne, while in the VN he realized that Kasumi isn't a hostage. |
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kdog1000 said: Also for the VN readers How do you feel about the slightly anime only approach they're going for here? Since events seem to be different from how they transpired in the VN. The limbs ripping scene was cringe worthy, I prefer what happen in the VN where Ren figure out Kasumi isn't among the victims and basically troll spinne before he bond with marie and make his Holy Relic and cut spinne head clean |
| Not bad, I really enjoyed the info-dump from Kei in the first half (hopefully some anime onlies are not as lost as they were before). Also, I think I laughed more than I should have with that "I am dating Sakurai" scene, since their reactions were priceless. Nice twist on the scene and a shame that they missed some possible teasing from Rusalka – it would have been worthy to see it. 2nd half was a bit more cringe, not only with meme boy and that annoying voice of his, but especially in the limbs being ripped parts, plus Ren manifesting the guillotine all over his body. The fight, if we can call it that, and their interactions were also quite rushed, since we never heard about Spinne´s motivations. Another lost chance for mentioning Zarathustra to Ren. Also, a special shoot-out to Trifa, since like usual, he is a gentleman and takes care of his friends (shame that he didn´t "clean" Ren´s "trash") lol. Overall, a pretty decent episode, for DI standards. |
KaitonNov 3, 2017 12:12 PM
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| Fun fact we are 4 ep in and they are still to call Ren Zarathustra |
| Fun fact: Spinne technically destroyed Ren's relic during formation and he's still alive. |
| Having ren go rage mode was nice and that limb scene XD Kasumi is wife material so I understand the decision. |
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ichii_1 said: Having ren go rage mode was nice and that limb scene XD Kasumi is wife material so I understand the decision. There far more Ren\kasumi shipping in the VN actually |
kdog1000 said: Fun fact: Spinne technically destroyed Ren's relic during formation and he's still alive. It seems he can grow his HR from any part of his body in the anime so it doesn't matter lol |
Devil_Slayer said: kdog1000 said: Also for the VN readers How do you feel about the slightly anime only approach they're going for here? Since events seem to be different from how they transpired in the VN. I prefer what happen in the VN where Ren figure out Kasumi isn't among the victims and basically troll spinne \ "Just answer me one question. What do you think about girls with big boobs?" They kept the mole on the breast thing but not the payoff of that information, for some reason. |
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| "I am very picky when it comes to boobs, I like the girls with moles on their Breast " It's amazing how being pervert can be useful sometimes and this line from Ren was LIT |
| ^^ Spinne's reaction to Ren's trolling was something to read/watch. |
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| That was by far the best episode so far, now I have some idea what's going on. |
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Whoahoho said: WTf you mean to say that them Longinus Dreizhn Orden black round table were training Fuji to be their opponent? That's like digging your own grave. For the moment there, I thought that Kasumi is dead. It's because they didn't even bother to explain everything about the Swastikas and Ren's role. Kei talks about "electric fields" in the VN, which explains Ren's role in these fights and why they're training him. |
| Finally a pretty decent episode. Previous ones were a confusing mess. |
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded. |
| It got bloodier or is it just me? xd Anyway, it was pretty good, I'm still not sure what to expect about all of this though xD I was kind of disappointed from Ren for his "fake relationship", Ayase was so broken :( |
kdog1000 said: It's amazing how much more enjoyable this can be when they don't rush through 80% of the content. But it was rushed lol it was one of the more rushed episodes, despite the included infodump, if anything (and not coincidentally, one of the worst) |
InsertanamehereNov 3, 2017 3:14 PM
| This show gets worse each episode, make it stop please. |
| As usual we went for a lightning fast pace. Now i like a fast pace usually, but they skipped ALOT as usual. But they got the overall gist of it. Kei's explanation did an ok job of explaining how the superpowers in the show work. Although, the 1st level is not called "Activity" its "Activation". Ren's fake relationship with Sakurai came a bit sooner then it did in the VN. The reason he did that anime-onlys, was so he can get Kasumi off his back and stop asking questions. Kasumi doesnt remember being pocessesed and killing people. Ren wants to make sure she never remembers it, he wants her to stay innocent of the whole nazi situation to protect their normal lives. He also starts avoiding his friends in school because he always gets a strong urge to kill them due to his guillotine power. It wants to keep killing people. But thats where Kei comes in and teaches him how to better use and control his power. Shame we never get the scene where she shoots his hand with a gun to make him use Activation. They just wooshed right through the scenes with the Priest and with Himuro/Lisa. In the VN, the priest gives Ren a little philosophy talk about how things never happen without purpose. (VN readers if im forgetting something important during this scene please tell me.) As for the whole fight with Spinne, its a Hit and Miss for me. On one hand, i like how they depicted Spinne and Ren's powers. On the other, it wasnt at all like this. Spinne never explains why exactly he wants Ren to work with him (he wants to overthrow the Round Table so Reinhard wont come back. He wants to do this because he's afraid of Reinhard and is sick of taking orders.). Also, they showed off the Priest's power so early, he didnt do anything in the VN other than finish off Spinne after Ren left, thinking he killed him. Im really hoping they slow down the pace once the common route is finished. oh, and the reason why they want to strengthen Ren is because they need strong souls to activate the Swastikas. Just massacring everyone in the city wont do it because the souls are of low quality. To put it simply, the Swastikas require a War filled with real Battles, not massacres. ovy7 said: I miss that scene so much. Ren basically shitting on Spinne's pussiness and figuring out that Kasumi wasnt actually there by remembering that tidbit about Kasumi's breast mole was great.^^ Spinne's reaction to Ren's trolling was something to read/watch. |
 The peasant is bound by the king. The king is bound by the peasants and their kingdom. But the Viking is bound to nothing but themselves. |
Whoahoho said: WTf you mean to say that them Longinus Dreizhn Orden black round table were training Fuji to be their opponent? That's like digging your own grave. They have to do that cause like i said, the swastikas wont activate to a massacre, they only activate to legit battles. Otherwise without Ren, they'd have to resort to killing each other to activate them. |
| The peasant is bound by the king. The king is bound by the peasants and their kingdom. But the Viking is bound to nothing but themselves. |
| I guess this episode was actually pretty decent. That limb tearing scene though, wow that was bloody. Last scene was nice. |
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| About a third of this episode dropped infodumps. Trying to keep focus on all the exposition was difficult. Ren is embodied with a weapon called a "relic" that can turn souls into power. I didn't understand the point of keeping Kasumi in the dark about what was going on, even going as far as pretending to be in a relationship with someone else, but it made for a humorous reaction. Nice, actual, hug at the end. It wasn't one of those cheap half-hugs where one participant's arms are dangling down, or crossed over their chest. |
Himawari9 said: aikaflip said: About a third of this episode dropped infodumps. Trying to keep focus on all the exposition was difficult. Ren is embodied with a weapon called a "relic" that can turn souls into power. I didn't understand the point of keeping Kasumi in the dark about what was going on, even going as far as pretending to be in a relationship with someone else, but it made for a humorous reaction. Nice, actual, hug at the end. It wasn't one of those cheap half-hugs where one participant's arms are dangling down, or crossed over their chest. All of the fighters here have those relics, not only Ren. Ren wanted to push Kasumi out of danger and not involved with this anymore. Kasumi is the symbol of Ren's normal life so he wanted to keep her safe. Ah, the Spider-Man excuse. Makes sense. |
| Ren and Kei are really best couple. |
ryanstrikeNov 3, 2017 9:31 PM
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ryanstrike said: Ren and Kei are really best couple. Indeed. Sadly, I don't think we're going down Kei's route. |
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| They didn't even explain Spinne's motivations properly, nor how Ren could identify that the fake body wasn't Ayase's... I mean at least we've gotten some more general explanations added now thanks to Kei but I still feel like they're needlessly missing out on things that could be explained to anime-only viewers when they literally were explained at those very moments in the VN |
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| Well, it wasn't actually that subtle at all, but at least this episode's endless info-dumps have made it so that I actually understand fully what's going on now. That's not to say it was any good still, but actually understanding what's going on is a good start at least. Also, wouldn't Ren have known that Spinne didn't actually kill Kasumi cos of what that other guy said the other week, about how they fight in some kind of closed space that doesn't impact the real world (or something like that, anyway). I mean, if that wasn't the case, Spinne's power would have destroyed the city as we saw it do. But, as we then saw, the city was still perfectly fine (if it wasn't, I highly doubt Kasumi would have been so casually rummaging through Ren's room to find her phone). |
| Man, some things just don't animate well. And this is most certainly one of them. |
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| Well, that was the best episode so far. We finally get a bit of an explanation as to what tf is going on, so that's nice. However, from reading comments by VN players, it seems they are still leaving out quite a lot of information and changing the script a bit. Oh well, guess I'll see where it goes from here. |
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