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BRB-kun said: Why do you need hentai if doujins exist? You can simply read the pages (at higher quality) and just download moaning sounds. /s THIS. It's so true. Stupid thirty characters. |
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Gator said: Because ecchi has - better art - better animation - better characters - better story - not just 1-3 episodes This. Also, not everyone watches anime to fap. |
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Not necessarily. Most ecchi has pretty generic art. - better animation Again, Not necessarily. - better characters The girls in ecchi are shallow characters with sexy bodies just want to fuck the MC, but in hentai they actually do. I don't see much difference. - better story Compared to an literal lack of story because it's literally porn. - not just 1-3 episodes Ecchi has more episodes but it dragged out AF. If they made an anime just from the fanservice from ecchi anime it would also be just 1-3 episodes. |
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Valenthius said: He said better, not good. Let's assume most ecchi art is indeed generic, it's still much much higher quality than hentai, which looks like complete shit most of the time, same with animation.Not necessarily. Most ecchi has pretty generic art. - better animation Again, Not necessarily. - better characters The girls in ecchi are shallow characters with sexy bodies just want to fuck the MC, but in hentai they actually do. I don't see much difference. - better story Compared to an literal lack of story because it's literally porn. - not just 1-3 episodes Ecchi has more episodes but it dragged out AF. If they made an anime just from the fanservice from ecchi anime it would also be just 1-3 episodes. |
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Valenthius said: Not necessarily. Most ecchi has pretty generic art. - better animation Again, Not necessarily. - better characters The girls in ecchi are shallow characters with sexy bodies just want to fuck the MC, but in hentai they actually do. I don't see much difference. - better story Compared to an literal lack of story because it's literally porn. - not just 1-3 episodes Ecchi has more episodes but it dragged out AF. If they made an anime just from the fanservice from ecchi anime it would also be just 1-3 episodes. Most hentai has pretty damn shitty art though. In general ecchi has better animation than hentai. If you you really want to tell me that every ecchi has shallow characters then you either have not seen much ecchi or are dumb af. And because bad story > no story my argument still stands. That's just your personal opinion. |
| Because, as some random, Ecchi Lord have said, "Seeing Hentai, with a bunch of female MC always naked, getting fucked and being impregnated. It can be dull, and boring as time goes on. Which, the companies makes an alternative shit which is Ecchi- a series without fully naked female MC but still makes your dick hard, and fap. " |
| Well, I would pose a rebuttal here as an ecchi fan but after watching the first few minutes of Masou Gakuen HxH, I'm starting to think that this argument is valid. |
 Why do you need battle shounen when wrestling exists? Why do you need sports anime when live sports streams exist? Why do you need yuri subtext when yuri exists? Why do you need zoos when safaris exist? Ecchi isn't targeted at the same people as porn is. People watch it for different reasons than they would watch porn for, so this isn't a logical argument. Also, this thread has been made several times. |
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| I'm not into either, but I like doujins (and some BL) more. Porn grosses me out (genitalia looks bad) but somehow, drawn dicks look good. |
shiet im hungry, bacon rlz About the ecchi part, well w/e there are many worse things in the world than shit shows for people with shit taste edit: almost forgot You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life. If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!. |
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| Some people don't wanna see all the nasty shit in porn, like close-ups inside vaginas, rape, ridiculously graphic dialogue, etc. |
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| Ecchi makes me smile, not fap e_e ... |
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| Ecchi sells better. Ecchi is not listed as porn, you can sell it to a bigger market. Most stores don't carry porn and refuse to sell it. You can buy something like High School DxD at a local Best Buy while you can't for Bible Black. |
bbBM said: people been listing it since first page.zombie_pegasus said: People watch it for different reasons than they would watch porn for, Also, this thread has been made several times. what reasons? i don't really get it sorry that the thread's been made before, i haven't seen it anywhere else |
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| I know right!? It mostly gets me horny ending with watching hentai or reading doujinshi. |
Robiiii said: Ecchi is there to get you horny and hentai is there to finish the job. Learn the basics ^^ This pretty much. It's a good place to start. lol |
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bbBM said: sorry that the thread's been made before, i haven't seen it anywhere else We've seen it (and this anti-ecchi elitist argument) way too many times. Sorry if we sound angry. Well, I'm not actually sorry, but my offer to make a FAQ was not approved. bbBM said: zombie_pegasus said: People watch it for different reasons than they would watch porn for, what reasons? i don't really get it Like I said, substitute relationships. It's not all about sex, men want to be loved too. Romance anime for girls might have well-dressed pretty boys, but romance anime for boys has to have the pretty girls in various states of undress once in a while. Valenthius said: - not just 1-3 episodes Ecchi has more episodes but it dragged out AF. If they made an anime just from the fanservice from ecchi anime it would also be just 1-3 episodes. "Dragged out" is a good thing. Because substitute relationships. Few hentai spend enough time with a girl for the viewers to fall in love with her. bbBM said: i think i'm getting it but i'm still a bit confused like if you're looking for a waifu or you want comedy, why not watch, say steins;gate for waifus and baka and test for comedy? (or whatever your preference is) the quality of waifus/jokes is generally much higher when a show doesn't have to divide itself between writing in waifus AND telling jokes AND drawing anime titties It's synergy. Naughty jokes would not write themselves in a perfectly tame anime. CapitalistGod said: Well, I would pose a rebuttal here as an ecchi fan but after watching the first few minutes of Masou Gakuen HxH, I'm starting to think that this argument is valid. Unlike most ecchi, Masou Gakuen HxH is a "borderline hentai", which is a hentai forced into ecchi restrictions for the sake of easier distribution and its perks (bigger budget, mostly). |
| I enjoy good stories. having cute and sexy characters adds to my overall enjoyment. Some people call it fan service and over serialization but it's not even a problem. Say the main character is a loli that wears a bikini or something, the main character being sexy doesn't suddenly make the plot less interesting or shallow. as long as the story is good and has a talented director / writer, you CAN have your cake and eat it to. Hentai is just porn, and doesn't have good stories and plot twists like a regular show would have. |
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| Give story and romance to it, It will easily better than hentai.jpg Take some ecchi anime, self insert to MC. You can see chara development, as well as more intense bond/teasing, and it will just become better every moment You'll also get your research project :) Easy example, take issei and alexander hell (sasha). |
| Ecchi is usually comedic and has a plot (even if it may be simplistic). It's just got flashes of panties and boobs for a little extra excitement. Meanwhile, porn is just scenes of people having sex. If I'm looking to fap, porn it is, but I've never decided to fap while watching ecchi; if I did I would be disappointed that the scenes didn't show enough or that they spent 5 minutes having a conversation or something in between a provocative shot. By your logic provocative scenes shouldn't exist in tv, movies, or video games because what's the point when you can just look at porn? |
| Some times, it's better to just leave it to your imagination |
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| For people who aren't ready for the next level. |
| Ecchi tends to have appeal in areas outside of f4pping unlike hentai. Look at high school dxd, it has loveable characters and a halfway decent plot. Something 90% of hentai can't brag about. |
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| Feels like a "legal" way to view erotic stuff. |
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| Hentai is just as bad as JAV, in hentai the animation is crap and in JAV the pornstars are ugly; My point being, some ecchi actually have really great art and you see get to see plot |
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| look at all the weebs here getting aroused by a bunch of pixels. |
| Why do we need porn when we have ecchi? |
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Robiiii said: Ecchi is there to get you horny and hentai is there to finish the job. Learn the basics ^^ Oh thank you... I looked for this comment |
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| Exactly the kind of thread I don't like to see necroed. |
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| Ecchi can be used to enchance the story if done correctly. I know. It's an astounding concept. |
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| I guess some people just like to get blue balled also plot + "plot" seems to be a successful concept so that means many people like that aswell |
| ecchi=stripper porn=whore aw come on just end this topic pls im sick of this. |
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Stripes said: Ecchi can be used to enchance the story if done correctly. I know. It's an astounding concept. Hmm, okay, when? I'm sure you have examples but legitimately, I have never seen something that would qualify imo. |
| why do you need porn when your mind exists, just make up hot scenarios in your head. I always do that. I hate porn/ecchi. |
simonephone said: Stripes said: Ecchi can be used to enchance the story if done correctly. I know. It's an astounding concept. Hmm, okay, when? I'm sure you have examples but legitimately, I have never seen something that would qualify imo. Well, enhance is a strong word, but I can definitely name a few titles where the ecchi perfectly fits into what the show was trying to do or is even essential for it: Kill la Kill (themes of fashion and female sexualization are reflected on in this show and fanservice is part of that) HenSemi (Tackles pervertism and various fetishes in an unprejudiced, slice of life way) Shimoneta (Comedy about sexual censorship, kinda self explanatory) Shokugeki (The ecchi fantasy method is one of the most poingant, funny and effective ways of showing foodgasms tbh) Colorful (explores the topic of peeking and whatnot in a comedic way, hard to do without some fanservice scenes) Ofc there is some degree of subjectivity to it so I'm sure if you're determined to never accept ecchi as a good thing or something that is inherently tied to some stories you can find ways to rationalize my examples away. |
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| um no offense but when i was 9 i was lesbian and fapped to yuri ecchi |
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Pullman said: simonephone said: Hmm, okay, when? I'm sure you have examples but legitimately, I have never seen something that would qualify imo. Well, enhance is a strong word, but I can definitely name a few titles where the ecchi perfectly fits into what the show was trying to do or is even essential for it: Kill la Kill (themes of fashion and female sexualization are reflected on in this show and fanservice is part of that) HenSemi (Tackles pervertism and various fetishes in an unprejudiced, slice of life way) Shimoneta (Comedy about sexual censorship, kinda self explanatory) Shokugeki (The ecchi fantasy method is one of the most poingant, funny and effective ways of showing foodgasms tbh) Colorful (explores the topic of peeking and whatnot in a comedic way, hard to do without some fanservice scenes) Ofc there is some degree of subjectivity to it so I'm sure if you're determined to never accept ecchi as a good thing or something that is inherently tied to some stories you can find ways to rationalize my examples away. Haven't seen the others but KLK is a good example actually, even if I am personally not a fan of the show. |
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| Because they serve two different purposes. Porn is for arousal. Rarely does porn attempt plot, although yes, I am aware that many hentai are full-length features, but I think it's pretty obvious that the quality of hentai is often far below your standard anime, especially since hentai usually does feature lengthy series beyond a few episodes. There are different types of ecchi as well. Some just have sexual imagery while others straight up show breasts like HS DxD. It depends on what each is trying to do, but it's usually not to just arouse the viewer. Usually there is some purpose to it like in HS DxD, the breast imagery directly reflects one of the main motivations for the main character, as petty as it may be. If you look at film and television, there is plenty of sexual imagery and sex. Game of Thrones depicts quite a bit of sex, yet most wouldn't call it porn. To me, the question comes down to whether the ecchi is useful to the plot or not. If it isn't, then it's not necessary. At that point, it's up to personal taste. I don't mind a little sexuality in my anime or film or whatever, as long as it makes sense. AvatarRevy said: First, not all hentai is legal in every country: especially the school girl, incest, rape, tentacle stories. Lots of English speaking countries with common law (Canada, Australia, UK) have anti lolicon hentai stuff for the 'reasonable person'. Ecchi is just flashes of nudity, but it has a purpose to tell a story outside of just porn. It's much easier to get away with Ecchi than hentai. It's much more reasonable. I don't know where you're getting this from. Canada most certainly allows cartoon pornography. The Supreme court has specifically said that even fiction child pornography is okay. I'll reserve judgement on whether that's good or bad, but hentai and loli hentai is not illegal, and even if it was, unless you're distributing it, it would be pretty hard to catch you. |
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simonephone said: Stripes said: Ecchi can be used to enchance the story if done correctly. I know. It's an astounding concept. Hmm, okay, when? I'm sure you have examples but legitimately, I have never seen something that would qualify imo. You've already seen KLK which has the reason as to why the girls are dressed so scantily in the plot but I'd argue that Shokugeki no Souma is just as good of use of ecchi. The metaphorical scenes of the characters reacting so sexually towards food in different settings with different emotional states really captures how the food operates here. And it doesn't just happen to the women it also effects the men just as much. I've heard High School of the Dead though it has some of those outrageous scenes does actually use the sexual themes in the plot to advance the characters relationships but I haven't watched it yet. I honestly don't watch a lot of ecchi, not because I'm not a fanservice kind of gal but it's usually a genre that gets a little too tropey for me personally. |
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