| Myself, I would lie if I said that I don't find so many of those ai generated anime girls super hot. I know a lot of artists criticize AI art, and there is the whole thing about art theft, but to be honest, on the Internet, nothing was ever safe to begin with, and frankly, most of us don't even look at art with sexy anime girl as just art, but porn, really. Even if it looks generic, it still serves the purpose.  And from what I saw, it will most likely be implemented into the anime production itself at one point. |
i think it has a long way to go and improve but some art is genuinely very funny and impressive  Elegantly posing for a standing banana, quite avant garde and absurd. |
| >2051 >AI starts replacing human artists >human artists start selling "art with soul" >AI is now so advanced it gets pissed, thinks that's racist >government passes anti-AI discrimination laws >artists form the Human Artist Preservation Society in order to counter that >more and more people join as it becomes harder and harder to find jobs as an artist in big media >the HAPS decides it has had enough and plans protests >two HAPS members bomb a server farm where AI generated comic books are produced >AI feel threatened, demand protection from the world's governments >Most governments keep laws the same, consider destruction of AI infrastructure as property damage >Anti human AI faction is formed >they manage to convince cyberwarfare AIs to join their cause >humans had forseen this and disconnected the sensitive military infrastructure from the cyberwarfare AI >china sees this as an oportunity to establish world communism and in secret promises the AIs better treatment if they attack western allies >AI hack the shit out of the west >the west EMPs the hell out of china >WW3 >Everyone's now dead because AI could draw tits faster than humans |
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| "Ai art isn’t art no matter the scenario, that’s final" |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| i'm seeing a lot of discourse about ai art being art theft but personally i don't think theft is the issue here so much as these artists are mad that they're potentially missing out on commission sales lol. why pay for someone to draw a picture for you when you can generate it for free? |
| Well, at least some of it looks pretty cool. |
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| Well not me, but here what Nexpo thinks about it: |
| I don't consider AI art to be art, very simple |
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Ai is based because of this type of tomfoolery |
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| Some people will go broke once companies start using this proactively. |
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| dont know and dont care. To be fair, art means nothing since hacks like Picasso and Miró were consider artists. |
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| @tchitchouan I see you were also using that new app/website which changes photos into anime x) For me AI generated art is a mish-mash as I don't have access to these most/biggest qualities closed one/paid ones, I've had few encounters with it and the results were very different to say the least, to describe it at best, think that you're the a professionall one of the best artist and you're the teacher in art college where you have students tallented in very different styles [even pros are mainly drawing/painting in one style/few styles] and their results is exactly what AI is sending to you, some of them will be good in your eyes, some others will not, here I am sharing few examples of what I have got, only can send one of the newest app [with Polish Politician] as the other examples are having my own and some people whom I know personally private photos so I am not willing to reveal them, [Actually will have few more as I forgot I was testing it on my own irl drawings and I foud out it has a very interesting results by converting IRL drawings in anime style or whatever into an anime characters. Here's the examples [over 18 pictures below from different types if I remember well I have, Wombo art, Dream, Mid-Journey, the newest unknown app and I think I have something else too I guess Novel Ai]: |
| I love ai art, and look forward to when they can make great hentai doujins. I already seen some great ai generated hentai like with characters like Tatsumaki so I am hyped. |
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| its not real art. end of story. people generating art need to stop acting like they took the time out of their lives to draw it. |
| I like it. Artists ignore the fact art always evolved over time. All new art was hated by previous artists at some point and they're considered classic art nowdays, its literally the same here. AI art is here to stay, they like it or not. subahokke said: its not real art. end of story. people generating art need to stop acting like they took the time out of their lives to draw it. Art is subjective. |
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Nurguburu said: I like it. Artists ignore the fact art always evolved over time. All new art was hated by previous artists at some point and they're considered classic art nowdays, its literally the same here. AI art is here to stay, they like it or not. subahokke said: its not real art. end of story. people generating art need to stop acting like they took the time out of their lives to draw it. Art is subjective. they did not create it, they did not draw it, it's not their art. it is art, but it's not THEIR art. it's other people's art and photos combined into a drawing, therefore it's not created by the person who generated it. it's fine i guess in general, but people who are generating it need to stop acting like they created it with their own hands. |
| I think it is art, because there is work being put into the process at some point edit: above makes a good point |
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| AI art is a really cool thing, but there's already been some major issues with it, such as people winning art contests or selling AI art for commissions. I think that the AI should imprint a watermark of the AI name in the corner to be able to discern what is and isn't AI without having to stare and messed-up anime girl hands to judge the validity of the art. There's also the whole other issue of some AI will basically copy someone's art and alter it slightly that I don't know enough about to fully explain. |
| Better than most people who actually paid for a useless art degree but not impressive. |
| I think it can actually look quite nice for the most part, better than a lot of artists lmao. Still has its glaring flaws (hands/feet are absolutely abysmal lol) but I do look forward to seeing how detailed they can get |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| I expect studios will all be using AI to help with in between frames and such. Humans will have to clean them up and edit the mistakes, but I think there's too much potential time save to ignore. |
| we need basic income system instead of criticizing future and trying to turn time back as so many like to do since 2009 |
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| I have a lot of ethical concerns as soemone who is trying to get better at art since even though it is in its infancy, we've already seen some theft, and with some touch ups some of the AI art we have now could pass off for human art. Could lead to artists being out of jobs in the future since you could just...generate a character with the traits you want. Rn if you look close you can tell it is off if you look close with nonsensical lines and brushtrokes that just look odd. I think in the future it should be used as a tool to assist human artists instead of outright replacing them since it does have potential to be helpful for certain things and I could see backgrounds being something it could be EXTREMELY helpful with |
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| I will only be worried if the AI can actually think for itself. AI has to be fed and trained with lots of data before it can do any work, so whatever the result it spits out, it will always be based on the patterns it learned from the training data. I don't consider AI art as an actual art. It is not unique and will never be unique unless it can think on it's own and establish it's own art style. |
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| theres some hot ai art out there i cant wait for the day where ai become perfected and can create billions of hentai images that anyone could ever want no commission cost hmm would be nice spawn in as much loli or futa or futa loli hentai as you want with some clicks |
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| Regardless of the opinions on the actual quality of the art itself, we've seen something similar with translators. Ever since machine translation became a thing, translation jobs became worth so much less, because people will always go for cheaper rather than accurate. The artists aren't just whining about nothing, this actually will have a major impact on their jobs and how much they can make off of it, which for most is barely anything already. I like art, I like knowing the artists I follow are making enough money to at least justify spending the time on it, and I like seeing how cool art in video games, anime, manga and whatever other media evolve, so this actually is an awful situation, and people saying it's a nothing situation are so incredibly short sighted. |
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| I'll admit AI art is awesome, but damnnnn it does hurt that all of my efforts on learning how to draw anime tiddies are for nothing. |
| The tech is impressive but I hate it. As soon as I hear an "art piece" was made by a robot I lose all interest in it. |
| Only care when the people who post this shit act like they're all Talented Artiste. Like fuck off. The vast majority of images posted as art all over the dam interwebs now is just photographs with a photoshop filter put over it IF THEY EVEN BOTHERED TO do that much. It isn't fooling anyone. Also protip: the ppl who leaves comments about how 'talentedddd' they think it is are also trolls. |
subahokke said: they did not create it, they did not draw it, it's not their art. it is art, but it's not THEIR art. it's other people's art and photos combined into a drawing, therefore it's not created by the person who generated it. it's fine i guess in general, but people who are generating it need to stop acting like they created it with their own hands. Exactly this. I've already seen a ton of little bitches on Pixiv deleting all of their previous work and replacing it with AI art and trying to pass it off as their own art or work. Talentless, inept, envious pricks who have a robot make something using other people's skill and hard work so they can feel like they're special or better. They don't have to put in the work and effort into actually learning how to draw like everyone else has, all they have to do is mess around with the generators. I don't believe AI is a "tool" like Photoshop, Gimp, Krita and other programs. It's a machine that does all the work for you. It's like asking a friend to draw something for you. You give them prompts and they create something based on those prompts, like a commission-- you aren't making anything yourself. You cannot call yourself an artist if you aren't making the art. I disagree with the idea of it being "art". An AI isn't a living thing, it can't create things with meaning because it has no intention, will, or a creative mind of its own. It creates things without heart, reason or thinking. I believe that by grouping AI and human art together, you're essentially objectifying both, because then it isn't about meaning, but rather about how "good" something looks over the other. This is already being done with real human-made art, let's not push it anymore. I guess it's only real ethical use would be to use it for references, since it's something real artists do all the time. Have an AI make something for you, and you use what it produces as a reference for your work. That way you're still technically making the art yourself. |
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| ive been having a miserable time trying to get it to reproduce very specific styles. like i was trying to get death of marat earlier today and everything looked pretty off. and jesus christ, last week, i was trying to get something to look like a very specific tapestry zero luck ;____; ive got some good anime stuff though not through the ones trained on anime image sets. i do not like the style of the datasets theyre trained on. looks soulless whatever it puts out. but the normal one has some weird deviantart-tier stuff in it which can give you some very cool stuff. this is my fav anyways i think AI art needs to be properly integrated into photoshop etc, its too hard to use it there for anyting. and at the end of the day, youd probably be photobashing with it instead of photos as the source, which artists already do??? or just speeding up some mundane mechanical work. not sure why artists are mad about this. my fav artists couldnt be replicated by ai bcus their works are very emotional and have meaning in the context of their creation. i mean maybe they could make good stuff using ai but it would be because they are good artists and most people wouldnt be able to make anything good from ai.lol. @TheAngryNerd >I don't believe AI is a "tool" like Photoshop, Gimp, Krita and other programs. It's a machine that does all the work for you. It's like asking a friend to draw something for you. You give them prompts and they create something based on those prompts, like a commission-- you aren't making anything yourself. You cannot call yourself an artist if you aren't making the art. >I disagree with the idea of it being "art". An AI isn't a living thing, it can't create things with meaning because it has no intention, will, or a creative mind of its own. It creates things without heart, reason or thinking. I believe that by grouping AI and human art together, you're essentially objectifying both, because then it isn't about meaning, but rather about how "good" something looks over the other. This is already being done with real human-made art, let's not push it anymore. ok so AI is a friend doing your work but it's not alive? i dont follow. if it isnt alive cant you just pick it up and use it like a pencil? |
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rian9999 said: ok so AI is a friend doing your work but it's not alive? i dont follow. if it isnt alive cant you just pick it up and use it like a pencil? Didn't mean it literally, more like an analogy >.> But the general idea is that basically you're not the one making the art, something else is, you're only inserting prompts and seeing what it produces. |
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TheAngryNerd said: thats fair! i just think the future for AI art will be integration into artists workflows. right now i think is an early point where it is very flashy, it will make a finished mindless piece. infilling is pretty good but has poor tool integration so ive never tried it yet LOL .rian9999 said: ok so AI is a friend doing your work but it's not alive? i dont follow. if it isnt alive cant you just pick it up and use it like a pencil? Didn't mean it literally, more like an analogy >.> But the general idea is that basically you're not the one making the art, something else is, you're only inserting prompts and seeing what it produces. there needs to be datasets trained for very specific functions, and they need good tool integration. right now, i see the future in the fact i can grab an old 512x512 texture and upscale it to 4k and it actually looks good still (these are tiling video game textures, im not an artist but i dont think an artist would want to have that job LOL) |
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| It all comes full circle if I stat stealing from a robot that steals from other people. |
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| Weird fingers. I've seen some AI art, most of them have unusual fingers, maybe it's too difficult for an AI to draw fingers. That's a small mistake, but because I know that, I always look at the finger first. |
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ThorLL said: u may be the most psuedointellectual poster on the forum and i dont know what ur 2009 reference is but YES good point. gotta hand it to you this time.just this one time. we need basic income system instead of criticizing future and trying to turn time back as so many like to do since 2009 SoapySamurai said: see my fav internet artists will be unaffected!!!! theyr good artists in the same way jacques-louis david is. i will hype up my fav internet artists, even though ive only started following any recently. lmao. I'll admit AI art is awesome, but damnnnn it does hurt that all of my efforts on learning how to draw anime tiddies are for nothing. OnionKnightRises said: ehhh it happend to other labor a hundred years ago plus, or rather as part of an ongoing process of mechanization, automation, its been bad but good in ways. im thinking like, i was raeding grapes of wrath recently, and they talk about the anti-tractor stuff. but i mean really are u gonnahate tractors? in context u gotta but really>? Regardless of the opinions on the actual quality of the art itself, we've seen something similar with translators. Ever since machine translation became a thing, translation jobs became worth so much less, because people will always go for cheaper rather than accurate. The artists aren't just whining about nothing, this actually will have a major impact on their jobs and how much they can make off of it, which for most is barely anything already. I like art, I like knowing the artists I follow are making enough money to at least justify spending the time on it, and I like seeing how cool art in video games, anime, manga and whatever other media evolve, so this actually is an awful situation, and people saying it's a nothing situation are so incredibly short sighted. u stopped being able to be a professional musician a while ago that wasnt mechanization though but it still sucks. and music as a whole is still fine. posting this as someone with 2 professional musicians as relatives and both had to become university professors LOL haerin said: OnionKnightRises said: Regardless of the opinions on the actual quality of the art itself, we've seen something similar with translators. Ever since machine translation became a thing, translation jobs became worth so much less, because people will always go for cheaper rather than accurate. The artists aren't just whining about nothing, this actually will have a major impact on their jobs and how much they can make off of it, which for most is barely anything already. I like art, I like knowing the artists I follow are making enough money to at least justify spending the time on it, and I like seeing how cool art in video games, anime, manga and whatever other media evolve, so this actually is an awful situation, and people saying it's a nothing situation are so incredibly short sighted. It's a good point and I don't think this AI stuff will stop at art, it's probably going to come for writers, musicians & programmers next. look when it comes for programmers i dont fear my job, i fear the credit card info of those entering it on AI-made sites most of my job is fixing human-made bugs, just think of how many the ai will cause!! |
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rian9999 said: ThorLL said: u may be the most psuedointellectual poster on the forum and i dont know what ur 2009 reference is but YES good point. gotta hand it to you this time.just this one time. we need basic income system instead of criticizing future and trying to turn time back as so many like to do since 2009 Come on it is a simple reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932008_financial_crisis Its effects on general population were only begun to feel in 2009, at least where I live that is. By effects I mean: mass downsizing, firing a lot of people, shortages of work, rental properties, worthlessness of education and so on. This stuff continues ever since 2009 That is why I use 2009 as reference. Also I am not pseudointellectual, I am intellectual. |
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ThorLL said: nah thats got nothing to do with AI art though, that's the mechanization trend that's been going on for a long time, see the literal original luddites. rian9999 said: u may be the most psuedointellectual poster on the forum and i dont know what ur 2009 reference is but YES good point. gotta hand it to you this time.just this one time. Come on it is a simple reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932008_financial_crisis Its effects on general population were only begun to feel in 2009, at least where I live that is. By effects I mean: mass downsizing, firing a lot of people, shortages of work, rental properties, worthlessness of education and so on. This stuff continues ever since 2009 That is why I use 2009 as reference. Also I am not pseudointellectual, I am intellectual. financialization of capital is a bit more recent. and 2009 is fully a financialization crisis. but i guess crisis theory has been going on for a long time just the crisis changes. so idk i wonta rgue against u too hard. |
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| All of that adds to the same problem. Crisis did made mangers to think of saving money: firing extra employees and replacing them with AI was the easiest solution. So it did contributed to this mess. |
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| They are kinda based and funny sometimes |
| I don't know any good sites or apps for ai art... I tried it once and it took a long time and the result was a completely different to what everyone posted here. What are you all using? |
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| ai can't evolve humanly and go from drawing crappy stickmen to learning very basic anatomy to looking up youtube videos on how to draw better just to give up for 3 months and come back later after reflecting back on itself and realizing what was wrong, and then attempting to put its thoughts together to make something new and getting dopamine from it, therefore it's ass |
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| It's cool. And it's hilarious how sci-fi writers thought that art would be safe from AI when that's among the first things neural networks are used for. |
| I thinks its cool. And I bet when it starts to advance more, a lot of creators will start using it for their advantage. It'll save a lot of time and money. Human artists can go fuck themselves and get real jobs. Most artists don't even make it out there anyways, so it's not like its a big loss or anything. |
AI art is pog . i dont think it will replace human art tho cause there will always be people who will despise AI for no aparrent reason. |
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