Ever get the feeling people are thinking more than the author ever did?

BorisThePea said:
Well, considering this is AoT I wouldn't be surprised lmao.

Although, I actually think that - from personal experience - there isn't enough depth within most discussions, despite the fact that most authors have meticulously constructed certain series to be the way they are. I have nothing against people who like a show simply...

'because it fun'

but you'd want some variety in your life from time to time, right?

Phosphophyllita said:
I guess it's normal.
Your life's experience will affect the way you see something.

An author might write something that will be the deepest thing in someone else's eye, but at the same time, the shallowest thing in another person's eye.

I don't know if what I wrote makes any sense, I'm not good at English, I'm sorry.

shivamrajput958 said:
Thats the main problem with fans,they just assume of make expectations and when their expectations doesn't fulfilled or there asumtions are proven wrong then their anger and frustration comes up.

ScarRufus said:
Always.

Because people love to overthink some 4D chess master plan behind the most simple topics. A lot of People can't accept answers like: "It is fun", "It is inner strength follow by friendship power" or "because yes". People will call it lazy write.

Short_Circut said:
Oh definitely. I mean, it's kinda the beauty of varying interpretation


but it also comes off as pretentious as fuck whenever someone makes an interpretation and goes like "brilliant piece of artistic choice/writing from the author" when from all we know it was done completely on accident lmaooooo

Erebus_Akeldama said:
*COUGH* Neon Genesis Evangelioni *COUGH*

6/10 thread

KaiserWilhelm_II said:
This reminds me of this video:

Ishitateso said:


...Dear MAL, I don't know why I should write more than 30 characters when there are more than 30 characters in the picture and I have nothing more to add.

KaiserWilhelm_II said:
This reminds me of this video:

KaiserWilhelm_II said:
This reminds me of this video:

namkeenchoot said:
My only problem with that is sometimes authors get away with bad writing because some people will tell you it wasn't bad writing and you were just too much of a simpleton to understand it. Basically for everything which exists out there you have 2 groups of people one which defends it no matter what and one which criticizes it no matter what.

ghier said:
No, most definitely I have never thought about a series more than it's creator did. I think you're underestimating how hard it is to make a story, and an incredible one at that. You've got to have more than just one interesting idea to work with; you need several actually. And then you need the capacity and the work ethic to tie all of those ideas together either by planning out your story structure or by winging it while writing. At the same time, you have to limit the amount of mistakes that might break immersion (it's impossible not to make some here and there). It's so demanding to the point that you could spend years preparing before even writing the first chapter.

I'd recommend re-watching the first season of AOT to see how much plot points of later seasons are hinted at (since you used AOT as an example). You'll be able to tell that there must have been a LOT of meticulous planning to set the stage for things. And if you go even further by picking out the the themes from the first season and compare them to the themes of the later seasons, you'll know that it was no coincidence how they line up.

Just fyi, not keeping up with the final season b/c I want to marathon it, so don't you dare spoil (not that I haven't already been spoiled plenty, fuck you dipshits and trolls).

MrSpenfo said:


There's definitely some of that out there, but just the same there are stories with very deep messages that require analysis, or even knowledge of specific references to understand. As a writer myself, I definitely have stuff in my stories that will go over the average person's head who doesn't think critically about what they are reading and/or doesn't understand the bases of a reference.

For example, one of my chapter titles is "Blood and Tetsu". Tetsu, being the name of a city within the story, and also the Japanese word for iron. Translating that gives you "Blood and Iron" which is a rather famous German speech, whose overall message was that the unification of Germany would be achieved through militaristic means, instead of diplomatic; which runs parallel to what is occurring during the events in that chapter of my novel.

Zekkenshin said:
I don't wholly disagree, but a story's meaning and message no longer belong exclusively to its creator when it's shared. There are still fundamental truths to it and some interpretations are objectively wrong, but people finding meaning that the author didn't envision isn't invalid by default.

namkeenchoot said:
I am sure there are a lot of plotholes in AOT but you people never talk about those now do you? Also you are the prime example of what I was trying to point out.

ghier said:
I mean I actually do acknowledge there are some plot holes at times. I’m not just going to bring them up out of the blue tho …
And yeah, I’ve put a lot of thought into it. But these thoughts come from VERY direct messaging in the show. Like the characters literally state the messages at times. It def ain’t more thinking than what the creator did to come up with the story.

TheFireNinja said:
It's natural for a person who is invested in shows to come up with predictions in how they think they'll go. But sometimes people can get so absorbed in their own vision that they don't allow room for the author's imagination. It's kind of like with the ending of the Attack on Titan manga. I've personally never gotten far. But a lot of people who were hyping it up and following it all the way ended up being disappointed by the ending. I remember a person calling it a rip-off of Code Geass. And to me, it was crazy how such a highly rated and popular series such as it fell from grace so fast because of people's distaste with how it ended.

Scordolo said:
You really don't know anything huh. The author intentionally left us with questions so that he can keep the discussions going and make people THINK. If you want something that will literally spoonfeed you, watch Demon slayer or Naruto or something.

Ishitateso said:


...Dear MAL, I don't know why I should write more than 30 characters when there are more than 30 characters in the picture and I have nothing more to add.

namkeenchoot said:

But see in your case it is clearly well thought out and intended but authors who already have a fanbase get free protection just because their fans would rather not believe that their favourite author could make a mistake so they try to justify everything. This I would imagine is something which is harmful for up and coming authors like yourself even. You do understand how for a reader it is difficult to understand what was intended and what wasn't right? Basically what I am trying to say is because people have limited information and no way of knowing what goes on in the author's head, a terrible story could end up being called a masterpiece and a cleverly thought out beautiful story could be referred to as garbage by the general public.

MrSpenfo said:

You're right, you have no way of truly "knowing", however how many things do you truly know in real life? All of life, what "reality" is, all boils down to your own perspective and your interpretation of the information you have collected throughout your life time. The more things that coincide, the more you believe in them, and when things contradict, you lose faith in them; stories are the exact same way. There will always be someone who perceives life and stories differently then you do. However, just because you can't truly "know" something, doesn't mean you can't be confident in your interpretation, after all, that's exactly what it means to have faith.
Ultimately, what matters most isn't what's in the author's head; it's the average reader's interpretation that actually matters. You might think this sounds wrong, as it could lead a "bad" writer to getting fame or a "good" writer to being neglected, but like I said before, you can never truly "know", so you should let the work speak for itself. Consider it like this, the more often a coincidence occurs, the less likely it is to only be a coincidence.

Phosphophyllita said:
I guess it's normal.
Your life's experience will affect the way you see something.

An author might write something that will be the deepest thing in someone else's eye, but at the same time, the shallowest thing in another person's eye.

I don't know if what I wrote makes any sense, I'm not good at English, I'm sorry.

namkeenchoot said:
What the actual fuck are you even talking about? Did mentioning AOT hit too close to home? Don't act like AOT is all that different from Demon Slayer literally both of them are normie friendly shounen shows. 90 percent of the people who watch AOT probably watch demon Slayer. Also rich coming from a death note pfp. Do you like listening to the L theme and imagining yourself as an intellectual?

Erebus_Akeldama said:
*COUGH* Neon Genesis Evangelioni *COUGH*

6/10 thread

Scordolo said:

I wasn't even aggressive in my previous post so why being so aggressive? Just chill. I'm not saying Demon slayer or Naruto are bad. I love them actually. I'm just saying they spoonfeed lots of unnesecarry information unlike Aot.