Notice: The purpose of this thread is to share and discuss a new development in the ads shown on this site. If all you have to say is along the lines of, "Who doesn't use an ad blocker? Just use an ad blocker.", then you are missing the point and are advised to refrain from posting here. Everyone already knows about ad blockers. I noticed recently that on anime and manga lists with the default layout (such as my own), large banner ads now display between the top menu and the list of titles. The largest one I saw was 970x250 pixels. I didn't see a thread about this, so I decided to start one so interested parties could discuss it. Perhaps admins/mods could chime in as well to provide insight into this update. Here's an example.  |
SmugSatokoJun 14, 2019 10:48 PM
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| This is why I use adblock's. Anyway, as annoying as these ads may be, atleast they aren't the awful ads the site used to have. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
| Yeah, I use uBlock Origin, so I don't see that stuff. What is "Hungry Howie's?" We don't have that place where I live. |
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| I only see white and nothing else. Weird. |
| ads despite being a MAL supporter? that's unusual like others have mentioned, use uBlock Origin. It utilizes less memory than Adblock. |
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| THis is why you should use anilist. They have better lists. |
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| My intent for this thread is not to complain, but simply to share something I noticed. Tropisch said: This is why I use adblock's. Anyway, as annoying as these ads may be, atleast they aren't the awful ads the site used to have. Seiya said: Yeah, I use uBlock Origin, so I don't see that stuff. Aldnox said: Imagine not using adblock in The Year Of The Lord 2000 + 19 assyrian said: how hard is it to enable an adblocker Not everyone uses ad blockers. In fact, most Internet users don't. Some even consider them a bad thing. For instance: https://thisinterestsme.com/adblock-bad-thing-people-use-selfish/ http://www.populartechnology.net/2005/03/why-adblock-is-bad-for-free-internet.html I used to use Adblock Plus for Firefox, but it interfered with it in various ways. It would take longer to properly start up too. Some sites are not accessible with ad blockers activated. Luna_Hazel said: ads despite being a MAL supporter? that's unusual HungryForQuality said: I get them too. I assumed MAL supporters didn't get them so I'm surprised it's happening for you. I canceled my MAL Supporter subscription, FYI. Luna_Hazel said: like others have mentioned, use uBlock Origin. It utilizes less memory than Adblock. I'll take your suggestion under consideration. However, I'm actually an advertiser myself (not on this site, though), so I may not bother. Sometimes I need ads to be viewable in my browser. Edit: I installed it and will just deactivate it when need be. Thanks. Optigisa said: I only see white and nothing else. Weird. If you're not using an ad blocker, try reloading the page and waiting a bit. It can take a few moments for the ad to display. It doesn't always show it on the default All Anime link, but shows it every time (on my end, at least) in the subareas like Currently Watching, Completed, etc. (On the other hand, lists with custom layouts are immune.) iasuru said: THis is why you should use anilist. They have better lists. The main benefit of MAL, for me, is the community. I've made many friends here. If other aspects were a priority for me, perhaps I would branch out, but I don't mind the archaic interface of this site, and I get all the list functionality I need. Seiya said: What is "Hungry Howie's?" We don't have that place where I live. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_Howie's_Pizza |
SmugSatokoJun 14, 2019 6:55 PM
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| Honestly if they have hungry howies ads, that just shows me how big anime is getting in the US Seiya said: It's some of the worst pizza you can get tbh. People like it because they're known for having a variety of crust seasonings it's cheap and greasy and good if you're stoned.Yeah, I use uBlock Origin, so I don't see that stuff. What is "Hungry Howie's?" We don't have that place where I live. |
| “The world is full of nice people. If you can't find one, be one.” ― Nishan Panwar 8=D ~ O: |
| >not using adblock in 2019 inb4 ">meme arrows outside of 4chan" |
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Savasvania said: I noticed it recently since my phone doesn't have adblock. It's annoying but they have to pay for the site somehow so I don't mind it. pay for the site which still uses caveman UI. LUL. |
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Savasvania said: I noticed it recently since my phone doesn't have adblock. It's annoying but they have to pay for the site somehow so I don't mind it. Well if you're on Android there's a myriad of good options and if you're on iOS Brave has it built in. |
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PantsuSenseiUwU said: Honestly if they have hungry howies ads, that just shows me how big anime is getting in the US Ad networks are the reason for that. The advertisers typically don't have to target specific sites. MAL is one of the top 500 websites in terms of traffic, though: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/myanimelist.net By the way, where have ya been? I had fun chatting with you last month. Aldnox said: Yikes at those links. If the person running the site has a job, which I sure hope they do, they can afford their $10 hosting fees and $15 domain name. You don't seem to understand that many people do Internet marketing for a living. One common way to do so is by publishing content on their sites (which tends to generate traffic) and hosting ads. Advertising is a trillion dollar industry. Advertisers pay large amounts of money to advertise on sites like these. (MAL is one, as you know.) This is quite literally the livelihood of countless people, so don't try to act like everyone with a website has a conventional job and only does it on the side as a hobby. Web hosting for high traffic sites can cost thousands of dollars per month. (Or millions for some of the most profitable ones.) And that doesn't begin to cover all the other aspects of building and running a business and a website...but I'll just tell you that the total expenditure can exceed that many times over. Numerous sites are owned by companies and other organizations instead of an individual. Without ads of some sort, commercial websites cannot operate for long. (Even if it's advertising their own products or services rather than others'.) Now, reputable ad networks can detect when an ad blocker is activated and correspondingly not charge the advertiser for the times an ad is not successfully shown...but that's really just scratching the surface. For those interested in an overview of how online advertising works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_advertising Aldnox said: Shoving ads down people's throats that only serve to make everything slower and track users is definitely not a good thing. "The world runs on ads" is a popular phrase for a reason. As I illustrated, your assertions are mistaken. Aldnox said: That site is not worth using. The millions of visitors who use those sites would disagree. xaow said: >not using adblock in 2019 I guess some people don't read through threads before posting... I explained the reasoning in my second post. |
SmugSatokoJun 14, 2019 9:36 PM
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| since ive been using adblock since i made my account on mal im not aware that mal has ads at all loool i just disabled it and realized mal has quite some ads... |
SadMadoka said: xaow said: >not using adblock in 2019 I guess some people don't read through threads before posting... I explained the reasoning in my second post. oh. You use firefox and ad block plus. Yikes. |
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| If you don't use adblock/ublock/noscript in current year...what the fuck is wrong with you!? Only NPCs browse the net without either of those things nowadays. |
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xaow said: oh. You use firefox and ad block plus. Yikes. Firefox is the best browser for a desktop PC. ;) I also said: I am an advertiser myself, so sometimes I need to see ads. I used Adblock Plus in the past, but have now installed uBlock Origin and will deactivate it when need be. Lost_Viking said: If you don't use adblock/ublock/noscript in current year...what the fuck is wrong with you!? Only NPCs browse the net without either of those things nowadays. Yet another who has apparently not read the thread... If you don't even read a thread before posting...what the frack is wrong with you?! Only n00bz post before reading. This thread is not about being annoyed at the existence of ads or not knowing how to use computers, the Internet and ad blockers. (I assure you I am quite adept.) I was merely sharing a new development in the ads that are shown on this site. Edit: I added a notice to the top of the first post for convenience and clarification. BlakexEkalb said: Firefox>Chrome? Yes, Firefox is far superior to Chrome. :^) I only use Chrome for a few things. I don't like it much, honestly. By the way, you don't have to quote an entire string of text like that. You can delete all but the relevant quote. Only takes a sec. |
SmugSatokoJun 14, 2019 10:49 PM
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| Not sure what's there to discuss, because it looks like a complaint about a specific ad, in which case the Advertisement Complaint Thread would be more fitting. If you have a general complaint about the ads, there's also the linked thread in the thread. Otherwise, while those are better than the redirection ads, I'm still not going to ever completely whitelist a website, since allowing ads is a security risk. My intent for this thread is not to complain, but simply to share something I noticed. Well, you could have just used a blog entry and linked it on your profile bio and/or signature, then |
| MAL has almost no ads in Japan (back in Europe it was pretty similar tbh), I don't even need to use my adblock which I've disabled long ago so I can support my beloved website of course. I didn't even know there are ads when browsing your own anime list, it looks absolutely awful. Imagine spending hours customizing and arranging your list just to get an enormous pepperoni pizza ad covering half of your screen in the end. I would be pretty pissed. MAL should be more careful, people usually start using adblocking software (or become a MAL supporters) because of things like that. I think the majority would choose the first option though. Also @SadMadoka, when it comes to internet ads (or online advertising), we are still in the Wild West, a lot of them use deception and various psychological tricks, others are a pure scam trying to get some sort of personal information or money (duh) and are usually aimed at at kids/teens, elderly people or just people with no internet experience/knowledge. If I have to be honest the regulations are insufficient even when it comes to the TV or the newspapers, but in the internet they are close to non-existent. I get your point but using adblock seems like the right choice in a lot of cases at least until we get some sort of control over that endless stream of garbage the internet advertising is. People are just pointing out the obvious, I don't get all these journalists (this isn't even an accurate way to call them in my opinion) trying to convince people that adblock is a bad thing, it is simply a reaction to a much larger problem. |
149597871Jun 15, 2019 2:39 AM
| Oh wow. Perhaps that's too much.;; I can't even imagine which I'd prefer: a big ad on my profile or on my list.;; I kinda feel like as long as we're not getting like pop ups then maybe I can deal with it though? I'm getting pretty annoyed by Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp because of that. They keep having popups show up that we actually have to close out and they're just advertising the same stuff over and over again. They also have like notifications when they have a small deal on their pay-to-play currency. And by small deal I mean you pay the same amount as usual and get like... a fishing net or something. A lot of players are fed up. I understand they want to market, but it's getting excessive. At least MAL isn't at that point (unless I'm just not seeing it). Of course, just because something isn't as bad as something else doesn't mean it's not a problem. |
| MAL is an egregious offender in invasive ad placement that often gives it the user experience of a warez site from the 90s. Even Kiss Anime, which is by any account unscrupulous and illegal, allows you to hide ads. If they were a bit more discreet with that, in line with modern good practices, then I wouldn't have minded. But as it is now, I don't think twice about using an ad blocker. Not only is it not unethical, it's morally deserved. So I don't know if my list has any ads or not, but I use the classic layout and haven't seen any change. |
| My subjective reviews: katsureview.wordpress.com THE CHAT CLUB. |
| ive come as the 344987539847th person to say if you know about ad block then use it |
| I don't blame them. They are doing exactly what company is after, money. And just to be clear, I'm not saying that they shouldn't advertise on their site, I would do the same thing. |
| I was notified about the idea for an ad placement on desktop user lists, but it seems I misunderstood the timeline for the ad space potentially going live. Since many replies to this thread seem to be "just use adblock" or "see guys MAL sucks" after skimming, I will just respond to the OP. @SadMadoka The ad space should not appear on lists that have some kind of customization. So if you delete the "MAL discuss etc" banner at the top of the list, then the ad will disappear, too. Or if you upload a new image, change some colours in CSS, etc. Users who take the time to customize their lists obviously would be very displeased to have an ad show up in the middle of it. I believe the intention was that people who do not customize their lists at all might be okay with it. We also currently have a problem with the mobile ads on the user lists being much taller than they are supposed to be, based on the defined ad space. Looking at your image, I'm wondering if this isn't an issue on desktop as well. It seems larger than it should be. That said, it's fine to complain if you don't like it. As far as I understand from working with our new owners, Media Do, they will be actively considering user complaints (verbal and non-verbal) when evaluating site changes. I would have protested it a bit more myself if I had understood the timeline better. The end goal, as I understand it, is to optimize our advertising for performance rather than for volume (our old owners' approaches). This takes some trial and error, some A and B testing, a whole lot of fiddling, and a bunch of time. My honest hope is that our advertising will be better for it at the end of the process. |
KinetaJun 16, 2019 12:40 PM
| Just use Ublock Origin and ads will go away 😜 |
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Aldnox said: I have adblock turned off by default and only turn it on when the ads are legitimately intrusive.Imagine not using adblock in The Year Of The Lord 2000 + 19 A lot of websites nowadays have very unintruistive ads so I might as well help them out; it's not like I have a data cap but make no mistake at the first intrusive ad that thing goes on without any moral compunction. I have no moral qualms about ad block and view my disabling it as a donation. |
 It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| I've used adblock for as long as I can remember, but I'll usually whitelist sites that have tame ads that aren't huge/in your face, invasive, or play sound. MAL ads aren't that bad, but still quite annoying to see. Especially if they're appearing on lists now. Needless to say, adblock will remain unless they ease up a bit. |
| This is why its nice having a VPN that has an ad blocker on it as well |
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PantsuSenseiUwU said: Honestly if they have hungry howies ads, that just shows me how big anime is getting in the US Seiya said: It's some of the worst pizza you can get tbh. People like it because they're known for having a variety of crust seasonings it's cheap and greasy and good if you're stoned.Yeah, I use uBlock Origin, so I don't see that stuff. What is "Hungry Howie's?" We don't have that place where I live. Personally I love Hungry Howies. It's way better than the cardboard Domino's and just better tasting than Papa John's. I like grease on pizza so that's maybe why I say this. I don't like the dry taste of Papa John's or Domino's and Pizza Hut is to expensive and just plain not worth it imo. Finally the only thing Little Cesar's has going for it is the bread sticks their pizza is terrible lol |
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| @SadMadoka may I recommend setting up pihole? It blocks ads at the DNS level and it doesn't trigger the antiadblocker. The sites still get money as long as u have anti tracking and whatnot enabled (at least it appears so but please don't quote me if I'm wrong I don't own a site so I can't confirm it this is just what I heard around the block (it maybe is just a thing people say to not feel guilty tbh idc lol)) I use ublock to clean up the blank space and I can disable it no problem when a site asks me to and make it so it would never run there. Here is a link on how to do it from LTT or u can Google around. You don't need to buy a raspberry pie u can just use an old laptop or have an always on VM running Linux and do it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KBXTnrD_Zs4 (video guide) https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1094810-pi-hole-setup-tutorial/ (text guide) |
BakaVacaJun 8, 2020 9:17 PM
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| @BakaVaca I appreciate the gesture, but I basically just use uBlock Origin except for when I either want to test certain things or a site blocks me. Also, considering that pizza is my favorite food, I want to try Hungry Howie's now. Also also, nice necrobump. >:D |
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| Whoops. I just clicked on this thread and found out I posted exactly what I wanted to post years ago, like usual. I don't mind small ads here and there but I'm unapologetic about dodging shady shit. P.S. You can bypass NYT's paywall if you click CTRL+A (select all), CTRL+C (copy), fast enough, and then paste it in a text document for your reading pleasure, not that the clickbait from any of the national news organizations are worth reading anyways. |
| My subjective reviews: katsureview.wordpress.com THE CHAT CLUB. |
| Imagine not using Ad Block CRINGE .. |
Satoshi-Kon said: I just use adblock, why wouldn't everyone at this point.. Imagine not reading the red text at the very top of the first post in the thread which explicitly states that everyone already knows about ad blockers. Cringe. |
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Not using adblockers in this day and age  Just turn on your adblocker bro. It isn't a hard thing. |
Opticflash said: Not using adblockers in this day and age Just turn on your adblocker bro. It isn't a hard thing. I'm curious...are you replying to the first post? The one that says this at the very top? SadMadoka said: Notice: The purpose of this thread is to share and discuss a new development in the ads shown on this site. If all you have to say is along the lines of, "Who doesn't use an ad blocker? Just use an ad blocker.", then you are missing the point and are advised to refrain from posting here. Everyone already knows about ad blockers. |
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