Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Janethan23 said: So let me get this clear; - Subaru asked and pleaded with Rem to run away with him to start anew and also told her he loved her. - Rem declines but instead raises his spirit up while telling him she loves him as well. - Subaru regains his new found spirit and confidence because of Rem's encouragement and confession. - Subaru now rejects Rem since he's gotten the courage to push forward so he can be with Emilia. Subaru is such a dirthbag with that narrative. The writing on this chapter/episode should've been reworked. Rem's encouragement and speech to uplift Subaru was really good but they should've added her saying "eventhough you're with me far away starting over, you'll still be thinking of her (Emilia) so I know you'll never be truly happy even when you hold me close." Line. At least it would be a bittersweet rejection from her rather than an all out confession that resulted in ZERO outcome for her. Heavily restricting my answer to an anime only perspective : Why would that make him a dirt bag after all that? It was more like he was acting like one to Rem by asking her to run away with him. Sure, given his predicament, his mental state was understandable. However asking someone to run away with you involves another person's future. Basically, he would be leading her on. Rem did herself a favour by rejecting his idea first. And he was being honest to her about his commitments. Rem's outcome was to put Subaru back on his feet since he is not acting as himself. In short, she got what she wanted. It maybe be helpful to consider the timeline where Subaru only survives, as it clears up a few things on how people around him see his behaviour:- Rem barely has had time to interact with Subaru, she doesn't know him well and has not shared any of the tragic experiences. In her eyes, Subaru had always been headstrong for Emilia and he suddenly went off-track and switched gears to her? What could be her real outcome in this timeline ? Hope that clears it up somehow. |
KreatorXMay 5, 2019 5:29 AM
| -Such a captivating and heartwarming episode. The voice acting and directing were commendable! -Rem is such a champ for confessing her love to him, all the while knowing that Subaru loved Emilia. Poor Rem. My heart aches for her so, for 'twas was not meant to be. I'm impressed that he was honest with her after all of that rather than lying. Sure he had wanted to run away with her at the beginning of the episode, but under his mental state at the time he just wanted to flee and have any ally beside him, and obviously Emilia wasn't going to be able to do so with that option. -Despite his experiences with Rem in recent episodes and the propensity to which she would sacrifice for him, he was pursuing Emilia from the start and had sacrificed for her sake. While Rem x Subaru would be a very nice ship given what we've seen transpire, and one that I'm onboard given where I'm at in the show, technically he never developed romantic feelings for Rem so I can't expect him to suddenly have a change of heart just because she herself loves him. I'm not quite onboard with Emilia x Subaru, however if Person A loves Person B, and Person C unilaterally sacrifices and professes their love to Person A, then it doesn't mean that Person A is necessarily obligated to switch, even if it might be the better option from an outsider's perspective... But how much will Emilia requite Subaru's love, because right now it's just a chain of heartbreak. She has helped him tremendously though, as he wouldn't be here without her, but I'd like to see more intimate and heartfelt moments between them, love as opposed to merely aid. |
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Janethan23 said: - Subaru asked and pleaded with Rem to run away with him to start anew and also told her he loved her. He did not say this, hell Subaru didn't really explain his reasons for wanting to runaway. It's not like he could as WoE would stop him just like she did in Ep 13 and 17 when he has tried to talk Emilia about it. |
| "How dare this fictional character in a cartoon love one fictional character over another?" |
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Paulo_Goncalves said: Rem is a love warming character and I can understand people loving Rem more than Emilia. Emilia is pure. That's it (for now...) He doesn't love Emilia. He loves the idea of Emilia. That's my opinion. Sure but it's still not true. It's becasue his feelings are genuine he can say what he did to Rem and it's why he hasn't runaway before now. He's also sacrificed his life for Emilia just as Rem did for him and reason she rejected his offer to escape Luguincia because it did not match how she saw him. So it is pretty hypocritical to say he loves the idea of Emilia and not that about Rem as well. Her life doesn't hold more weight than his. Basically even if he likes Rem he can't let go his feelings for Emilia they real and would make everything he done up to now meaningless. It also mean the Rem is wrong about him struggling through darkness because he does care that much even if he's clumsy about it. |
Iron_MawJun 19, 2019 7:23 PM
| Okay, this is probably the episode to talk about shipping. First up, I think that Emilia is best girl. Rem fits Subaru better though, they both have some moments in which you just wanna smack them and ask what the fuck is wrong with them. |
| Haha I now finally look at "I love Emilia" memes guilt free knowing I'm no longer seeing a spoiler. I've thought about the ships quite a bit, and can see reasons for both. I have no complaints with his choice. Emilia is the first person he really met after all. Anyway that shit doesn't matter in the slightest. What's really important here is Subaru finally admitted to himself what a shitty person he was. That was what we needed since like ep 13. It was very well done. He just needed someone to say "idc if you're shit, I'll stil stay by your side and help." I believe Emilia would have done the same if this breakdown happened in front of her, but there are reasons both logistical and personal (for Subaru) as to why it would be harder to have this same conversation with her. |
| This episode hit me personally very hard. I don't know if it's just funny or sad or maybe both if you see so much of Subaru in yourself. After this episode I wished I had my own Rem. It was like her words were also meant for me. I guess that's also the reason my eyes welled up so much during the whole conversation. I can't blame Subaru for giving up in such a situation. He made mistakes there's no doubt, but even with that it wasn't like he didn't try anything. All these cruel experiences will affect someone sooner or later. And in his age it's an absolute normal reaction. Rem saved him. That's also the reason he couldn't understand why she wants to help him at first. If you think of yourself as the worst person and someone says "I don't care what you think about yourself, I will be on your side no matter what", it must be seem so unreal. But I knew even when she confessed him her love that there won't be the same feelings for her, because Subaru loves Emilia. This is so bittersweet. I'm just so glad Subaru came to his mind and realized that his actions in the past were inappropriate and stupid. From that I honsetly have no clue what both of them can do to change this whole situation. Very well done White Fox and amazing job at the va's. |
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| All that build-up to rejection. OMEGALUL |
| Best episode so far and I believe this would stay the episode from the anime re zero. In this episode nothing happened other then dialogue but that is the most fun part. Ocean of emotions! That is the best way to explain it. I was shocked when Subaru said "run away with me" to rem. I was extremely joyful at that time with tears rolling from my eyes. And when rem start taking about how she wants to live with Subaru and grow older with him ahh that was heart touching man. Even tho I know rem got rejected in my imagination Rem x Subaru is a couple in love for internity. |
| Very Great Episode. |
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| In light of Subaru acting wildly out of character since at least episode 13, I said this after episode 14: TK8878 said: At this point I'm convinced that the author wrote Arc 1, started writing Arc 3, realized that Subaru was basically a bum in this world and started Arc 2 so that he'd have a job, went on a tangent with Rem & Ram when he had a cool idea with them, then came back to Arc 3 by inserting Rem at various points and not changing anything else. Either that or White Fox had no idea what they were doing with this adaptation's scripting. Let me tell you that watching this episode with that in mind was infuriating. It's like the author realized he messed up so he's bringing back the Arc 2 Subaru but he still didn't get his point across so he dumped it into exposition. It was all so predictable too, line for line, even the "I love Emilia!" came right on cue. If he suddenly concocts a masterful plan to win back Emilia and save the day after all of the BS of the past 7 episodes like it never happened then my disappointment will be beyond words. |
| Really well-choreographed episode, but you have to feel for Rem. Really wasn't warming to her to begin with as a character, but she developed into a great one by the time this episode popped up. Poured her heart out for 10 minutes only for Subaru to flatten her and her entire fanbase in one line. She did sound like she half-expected it anyway but still heartbreaking for her. |
| Rem >>>>>>>>>>>>> Emilia this was just absolute dogshit story and character progression lmao |
miketorenoFeb 9, 2020 7:21 PM
eso18 said: my exact feeling lolhmm... I finally picked this one again after stopping watching it at episode 16 when it was coming out. And hey I rewatched from ep 15 all the way till here... now I understand why Rem best girl exploded so much two years ago because after this episode ended I feel like dropping this shit yet again. Restart from zero you say... bullshit... from the very beginning the author set the pre-defined main love interest for MC and no matter what happens in the series, he will not change it. I hate when stories do it, especially stories that try to push secondary heroines and their story arcs in love direction but in the end, no matter what happened in their arc, the MC stays the same... Oh well... I am sure I will pick this up again once my rage about this dies out. Sigh... I really wanted to clean this up from my watching list. |
| "I love Emelia" ah the (in)famous scene |
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| I love Emilia for how she has been absent in recent episodes (and later episodes too). |
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| I've got just one thing to say after watching this, Why Subaru, WHY THE FUCK!!?!?!! Rem best girl, all the way |
| Rem is best girl |
Shizokami said: I've got just one thing to say after watching this, Why Subaru, WHY THE FUCK!!?!?!! Rem best girl, all the way Subaru: I love Emilia Me and everyone else: TRIGGERED!! Emilia has been absent for most of the show, Rem was the only one that was there for him. RIP Rem's SHIP |
| I finally got to this episode, thanks to the memes and spoilers littered online, it was unavoidable tbh. I love Rem, I love Emilia, I love all the characters except Betelgeuse. Rem's deaths affected me more than Emilia bleeding from her mouth in the last episode. Rem is such a wonderful girl, I love her so much that I do not want her to end up with Subaru. People are saying Subaru should choose her, I'm saying, she should choose better than him. Rem deserves much better. Someone who will love her unconditionally and not give her the side chick treatment. Subaru can end up with anyone, he could end up with Rom, for all I care. I just want my beauties to find happiness: Rem, Ram, Emilia, Beatrice, Felt, etc. all of them because honestly, at this point, I'm watching it for all of these wonderful characters. I'm not saying Subaru is bad. I also like his character to an extent, his love life just makes my eyes roll though. He needs to work on himself a lot. He hasn't grown up much. He's still 18 years old. He is fucking young. He has a lot to experience before he asks a girl like Rem to run away with him. I get that he's going through a lot, he's losing it, he cannot even begin to convey what he is going through but he seriously needs to learn to love himself more. Honestly, I'm glad Rem turned down his proposal. You don't want to stick with that. Rem please find a better man. |
ApawtheCorgiJoApr 15, 2020 11:06 PM
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| One of the realest episodes ever, just awesome. 5/5 |
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| Okay what the fuck, this has never happened to me before. I wanted Subaru to go for Emilia until i saw this episode... Now i am almost obsessed with seeing Subaru & Rem together, And hearing him say i love Emilia after that wholesome confession from Rem made me cringe so fucking badly that i had to pause the video. It is very unusual for me to change my ship goals in just one episode... Woah man this anime is something else dude... |
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Arzoden said: Okay what the fuck, this has never happened to me before. I wanted Subaru to go for Emilia until i saw this episode... Now i am almost obsessed with seeing Subaru & Rem together, And hearing him say i love Emilia after that wholesome confession from Rem made me cringe so fucking badly that i had to pause the video. It is very unusual for me to change my ship goals in just one episode... Woah man this anime is something else dude... Why cringe? xD Your shipping preferences aside, Rem turned down Subaru first because she wanted him to resume going after Emilia. Subaru understood her intentions back there. If he said "yes" to Rem, then it means Rem is abandoning her mission given by Roswaal and leaves her sister at the mansion. It would also invalidate all of Subaru's actions up until now and would also mean he is ready to lead on Rem, with Emilia in his mind. Try seeing that scenario from Rem's perspective: Subaru and Emilia have a falling off. Soon after that, the next day (since she has is not the same Rem due to the death loops), she is seeing Subaru infront of the appa seller, appearing crazed of sorts, following which he asks her to run away with her together somewhere very far. This is like an out of the blue confession for her. That is not the Subaru she knows. |
| Since I care almost nothing for the characters in the show, this was just too cheesy for me, though now I understand where the Rem being best girl comes from. I do realise that this episode was important for character progression. And while I could not care less who ends up with who, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why these characters love each other so much. |
  I want to know what it is, this 'sin' they say I've committed. |
| What the heck! He completely led her on.😒 Sorry! But I just can honestly relate to that!🤣 I really don't like people who self-pity. In reality, when someone starts doing that, I lose interests because feeling sorry for yourself and whine about it doesn't solve your problem! In Subaru's case, I'm impressed. You get to empathize what he's been through as well as what he really feels about himself. Without expressing his distress and emotions, he wouldn't be able to convey his sorrows to Rem. And of course, that person would help him lift his spirits. We need someone as compassionate as Rem.😭 |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| I am not in the RE: Zero waifu wars, but Subaru's obsessed/stalker behaviour towards Emilia is ridiculous, he has a more respectful relation towards Rem - even if he at first treats her in this episode as a consolation prize, "oh pls my lady lets run away. I dont care who it is as long as I have someone waiting for me at home" those Light Novels are quite pathetic writing their protagonists. Not only that, his whole argument was completely pathetic to hear, neither Emilia nor Rem deserve a protagonist as ridiculous as Subaru is. |
| Ah, so i finally got to see the infamous love rejection that set the community on fire a couple years ago. Personally? Meh, Rem is waaayyy too good for a self-loathing POS like Subaru. He doesn't deserve Best Girl anyway, so she's better off. |
| Was that it all? Sorry, i felt boring. Best girl doesn't deserved such a greedy pig like Subaru. So, yeah, its obvious while shit happening into like that. Unfortunately, all of them felt blank to me. Idk. They were all too naives, even Rem statement just make a bad tastes on my mouth just got deeper. Nonsenses. Subaru's first intentions to run away should be good. She was too naives, i hate that when everything just gone circling on the round. The ramblings were prolix. Rem's ranting just added that this episode served only as a jumper rock. Its about time for seeing the plot progressing, after some tiring loop time eventful again. Yeah, this episode served as a zero mile. To take more step aside of the storyline to far away from before. I may called that a plot device. Because, yeah, Subaru love Emillia, Rem love Subaru, but she dont hate her and wanna help him. A great excuse to plotting the progression from this checkpoint, in my complete understanding. With that preview, i might consider that Subaru this time has succesfully negotiated all of his challenger. They might fully able against the white whale, the cult, or even any shit in the future. Idk. So lets just see the next episode. Thats it for now... |
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| Suburu is one of the worst MC in all of Japanese media. Throw out this episode and he's still the worst. |
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| A lot of people seem to hate Subaru more after this specific episode because of the "I love Emilia yadayadaya" shit but I was personally able to relate with him more than over these past few episodes. I thought that his character realistically showed what it's like to be someone at their absolute low and who's beyond desperate to escape the cycle of failures that this cruel world has trapped him in. Although I felt his self-tirade would have been more effective if he spent less time being repetitive and whining about "ME ME ME," it still led to an important moment of clarity that allowed the dark, building fog in his mind to finally break after the series of events that led to this particular point. I certainly appreciate how Rem (obviously heads and shoulders over Emilia at this point) served as a ground to Subaru and brought him back to the right foot. Her own "I love Subaru because... testimony" got really preachy for her own sake tho...I started laughing when the doves came out of nowhere and made it look like she was some kind of godsend. But fuck it they're teenagers, I've seen doods their age act way worse in similar situations almost all the time. Emotionally vital but flawed episode overall. Still better than the inconsistency that the series has been dealing with since around ep 12. 7.5/10 |
| I loved this episode but highkey there was a massive writing opportunity wasted. Subaru and Rem should've ran away together. The audience is gaslit into thinking the rest of the series is a cozy slice-of-life about Subaru and Rem. They build a new life elsewhere, birth a horde of half-demons, grow together, face tribulation together, and eventually die together. Then Subaru respawns back in front of that fuckin' apple stand. We've had STRINGS of episodes dedicated to exploring dead ends; that would've been one worth seeing, and I would've loved it. |
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| My boy Subaru a DOG for. Rem goes and monologues the entire episode just to get with the friend zone. Rip. But at least this reaffirms Lia as best girl. |
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| ok this anime officially kicked the bucket over for me, first half had me in absolute shambles. I honestly haven't cried this hard before since watching "Your Name", Rem's dream of starting a life in the capital with Subaru, being contempt with one another, having kids and growing old together and dying together hand in hand was the sweetest, most beautiful thing, i think i have had the pleasure of being alive to see. Then seeing Subaru admit that he can't do anything, that he admits to being selfish and the result of that being the loss of loved ones, basically giving in to who ever was controlling him, and then Rem, literally God's blessing to this earth gives him a reason to keep fighting and trying, to not give in now and remind him that someone, that person in front of him loves him for who he is. Reminding him that he she is literally walking proof that he has saved someone, that he isn't useless. God i wish someone could say this all to me as well ;-; True it was very dramatic with visuals, but honestly i couldn't care less, after ALL the shit they gave her last 2-3 episodes she fully deserves this. Now if i wasn't an emotional mess from the scene beforehand, hearing Subaru say "i love Emilia" would of made me commit hate crimes, but i'm 110% sure Rem already knew that, but the fact she still voiced her feelings and dreams, and then was openly agreeing to help him pursue his relationship with Emilia, really shows how much she loves him regardless of his answer. Plus he gave some very valid reasons to why he love's Emilia. Still don't know why Subaru would chose Emilia, but i won't hate on it, he loves someone let him peruse it, although i'm sceptical if Emilia would be able to feel the same way back, at the end of the day, i'm a viewer not a professional studio :) |
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| The witch sound at 3:40 always gives me goosebumps. The timing is so damn spot on. |
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| I know I may not have been around when the first season aired back in 2016, but I will say that I can understand the anger at Subaru that maybe some Rem fans felt. I consider myself a larger fan of Rem than Emilia at this point. I too felt sad when he said "I love Emilia" right after Rem's confession. But I understand that Subaru has his love for a different girl, and that girl is Emilia. He needs to save Emilia, so it wasn't feasible for him to run away with Rem and start a new life in another country. Anyway, it was a sad rejection, but Rem really has the biggest heart of all for taking that rejection like a champ. |
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| TFW everyone remembers the "I love Emilia" and no one remembers the emotional as fuck monologue by Subaru about how he hates himself. |
vp787 said: TFW everyone remembers the "I love Emilia" and no one remembers the emotional as fuck monologue by Subaru about how he hates himself. Also TFW when people get hung up on Subaru 'rejected' Rem, when it was actually Rem who 'rejected' him first during the conversation. |
| Puck might look like a fluffy little kitty, but his true form is a mighty, giant and overpowered cat titan. Rem confessed her feelings to Subaru! That was cute. I didn't like another several minutes of Subaru saying negative things about himself. Like, it lasted for too long and happened too often before, even though the situation from this episode was special. Saying that he wants to escape with Rem somewhere far far away to live together and saying several minutes later "but I love Emilia" was bizarre and felt to be out of place to be honest. |
| She didn't let him run away from himself even if it made her happy She knowingly set herself up for a rejection to get him out of that state She told him everything he needed to hear I don't mind that he choose Emilia, it's his choice he has shit taste though but after that scene Rem is high tier waifu. |
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| Subaru’s rant about his flaws were powerful. I hope after realizing his arrogance he can finally have some character development. And Rem is my best girl! That dialogue between her and Subaru went really well. And I like how deep their relationship is now. But I don’t want her to end up with Subaru, I’m actually happy she got rejected. Subaru doesn’t deserve her. |
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