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| Well, that was...interesting. I really liked the psychological aspects of this episode! |
| Shinji getting his body back was really cheap. No proper explanation. I like how Misato & kaji are presented as realistic adults with sexual desires among others instead of your typical cardboard cutout couples |
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| Trippy episode. Everytime Misato or anyone brings up the question, "What is an EVA?" they always beat around the bush. I mean, I sort of understand that they're the clones of Adam, but why is NERV investing so much time and money in EVA development? They're already using dummy plugs and after watching the last episode, it's potent. By using the dummy plugs, it appears that it stimulates the awakening of the EVA. That's incredibly scary, especially when you know Ikari and the committee know what's going on. Shinji is completely lost right now. From the episode, Shinji just can't figure out what's going on anymore. "Who is the real enemy? Why am I piloting this monster? Am I simply piloting this thing for praise like Asuka? What do I really want?" I did like how Gendo wanted a girl named Rei. Yep, I'm starting to believe she was artificially made. This is one mindfuck of an episode. So much questions continue to rise as I finish each episode. |
MojoMakoSep 17, 2014 10:03 AM
| That psychological mind. Oh my. |
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| When Misato was clutching Shinji's bodysuit saying "GIVE HIM BACK" she totally sounded like Sailor Moon right there XD. I cannot unsee Usagi in Misato..same VA, same bangs, and similar mannerisms at times. XD Also... Wtf, people saw fanservice? Really? This is fuckin NGE. |
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| The end of that episode... uhm, okay. I've never been much of a fan of the whiz-bang imagery that constantly flashes across your screen so this episode wasn't high on my favourites so far. Still a good episode though aside from those parts. That shot of their silhouettes with the giant green eye in the background was pretty haunting. |
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| I have a feeling that the entire reason this show can be so pretentious is because of the low budget... Although going by this logic the NGE rebuild should be far better than the series... Which (as far as I've heard) doesn't seem to be the case. But I really liked how they explored Shiji again. I'm going to need to think about this for a while... In all honesty it hasn't been that complicated insofar so just a bit of thinking should bring a good (personal) understanding. I want more Asuka... What's going on with her? |
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| Nudity isn't fanservice you stupid weebs Anyway, this episode confirms my suspicion that this is a coming-of-age |
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| I felt like I actually understood some shit this episode omfg. I thank IB English lmao. For the most part, I always thought that both water and blood represented death, but I noticed that blood actually symbolizes a sense of being alive. That vision Shinji had that switched between blue (water) and red (blood) was really showing him trying to "come back to life". The whole concept of blood is quite evident in Evas as well. I find that really interesting, when Shinji talks about how it "smells like blood". Totally foreshadowing/foreshadowed that Evas were alive. I can't speak for the Kaji/Misato scene, but the Misato/Asuka/Rei "harem scene" wasn't purely for fanservice. Sure, "becoming one" can be interepreted as a carnal/sexual desire, but I thought it was Shinji reflecting on his mother (and how he was "one" with her lmao). In the car scene with Misato and Ritsuko, the background radio says something like "you're looking for a mother you can sleep with in her". So essentially, Shinji thinking about these "ecchi" things is showing his longing for his mother or a mother figure. Their nudity was most likely linked to the picture of Shinji as a child feeding on his mother's milk- probably showing some dependency of Shinji on the idea of a mother. I guess this goes to say how emotionally/mentally fragile he is because of the lack of a mother. I felt like I somewhat understood the whole Shinji talking to himself in the train thing too. Basically, the orange setting is similar to how Shinji/Eva pilots are submerged in the orange oil in the entry plugs. And the train... I guess represents how piloting Evas is the only thing Shinji does to find some meaning in living and "keep going" or whatnot. Yes, he did admit that he merely wanted to hear compliments from Gendo, but all that really comes down to piloting Evas. ...That ended up a lot longer than I thought lol |
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| This got to be one of the best Evangelion episodes, atomospherically wise. That boner though. |
| Shinji starts to break down and think back to his actions. I thought that was needed at some point. I was dying to learn more about him. |
| That sure was a weird ep |
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MojoMako said: Shinji is completely lost right now. From the episode, Shinji just can't figure out what's going on anymore. "Who is the real enemy? Why am I piloting this monster? Am I simply piloting this thing for praise like Asuka? What do I really want?" I did like how Gendo wanted a girl named Rei. Yep, I'm starting to believe she was artificially made. Shinji has been confused but even more now, completely true. Regarding Rei, it would explain why she was in the tank filled with LCL some episodes back, and the comments she made about herself. The trippy ride Shinji had was a bit over the top with all the flashes, people could get seizures from that. I did however really like how it portrayed how confused he really is, how many questions he has, just how scared he is to get hurt and hurt others. Final scene with Katsuragi was kinda boring, just a still scene with some noises in the background. |
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| Nudity is on the Mind. ep 20. Plot-Shinji evaporated into LCl and Nerv tries to get him back. Lots of questions go through his mind, about what he wants, what he's supposed to do, until he comes back. Character-Introspection on Shinji as he delves into what makes his present and what he truly wants. Everyone talks fanservice from the 3-in-1 scene of Misato, Rei, and Asuka and while true, it's important to remember the words. To become one. Of one mind and body. To be safe. To be treated well. To know one has worth. 4/5. A slow ep and full of introspection. And we learn that SHinji wants a harem.  |
AarroninJul 9, 2015 5:31 PM
 I go where I wanna go, even if its into Oppai. |
| 30 seconds of Misato sex sounds? I'm not complaining. |
| Shinji was reborn. His Eva gave birth to him :') |
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| Unless I missed something, I don't know where people are getting fan service from. A nude character does not equal fan service. That last minute, though... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
MadRoosterr said: Metty said: Hardly unneeded fan service when its relevant to the storyTo much unneeded fan service. And they were doing the naughty. And hardly unneeded when this is part of what makes Neon Evangelion Genesis so interesting. Artistically, I'd argue that Evangelion is now more valuable than 99% of all other anime. It's smart in its usage of symbolism, and it's able to convey the struggles of coming of age in a very clever way. Sure, cynics might say that episodes like these are the result of the studio having blown the budget on great visual effects in the first half of the series, but I think that was part of the plan. Use a good chunk of the budget on making the first part of the series look good in order to hook the viewers, then initiate a discussion on teenage sexuality, the desperate longing for fatherly approval and even paralells to Oedipus. I enjoy these episodes much more than the more generic action-filled ones. Whining about fan service is misunderstanding this episode. In my eyes this is what makes Neon Evangelion Genesis a true post-modern work, and I really find it thought provoking this far. |
| ^ Thank you. A lot of people seem to be missing the point of this episode. But hey, as long as they find it enjoyable, I guess? |
| The episode did an excellent job of portraying Shinji's mental state regarding what was essentially an acute existential crisis and his reasons for doing everything he's done and why things are the way they currently are. I think the scene where Shinji saw the three girls asking him to join with them to form one mind and body was the Eva tempting him to give in so that it could absorb him. The Eva wants him, and him only. The will of Shinji's mother possibly exists in his Eva and she is beckoning for the son that she had been separated from for so long. It tempts him with his insecurities and desire for love and validation/care. It deals to him matters pertaining to the core of human essence, primal desires. I think this could imply that this will itself was acting on a primal desire of its own (love?). Putting speculative ramblings that may or may not be completely off or nonsensical into spoiler tags to reduce clutter. In any case, this episode was an interesting exploration into existentialism and the human mind. |
ZeroDragonNov 5, 2015 1:02 AM
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| Well we got more trippy dream sequences from Shinji. Id honestly like to know what they all mean, all I'm getting out of them is hes really messed up due to basically losing both of his parents. And he also has no idea what his purpose is in life, so he just goes around trying to please everyone to feel hes worth something. Oh, and that Rei has some kind of big connection in all of this. Also the Eva is really freakin creepy looking in its *evolved* form. Things got a face only a mother could love lol. Id like to know how they managed to subdue it though. And again, Misato shows how much she cares about Shinji. I laughed when she slapped blondie again, can't say the bitch doesn't deserve it. Though I will say the sex scene at the end was kind of awkward. I also still don't trust Kaji, I doubt hes the good guy in all this. I'm sure he has his own selfish reasons for doing what hes doing. I just hope nothing happens to Misato, shes the best character in this show. |
Shape430Nov 22, 2015 7:23 AM
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Shape430 said: Well we got more trippy dream sequences from Shinji. Id honestly like to know what they all mean, all I'm getting out of them is hes really messed up due to basically losing both of his parents. And he also has no idea what his purpose is in life, so he just goes around trying to please everyone to feel hes worth something. Oh, and that Rei has some kind of big connection in all of this. Also the Eva is really freakin creepy looking in its *evolved* form. Things got a face only a mother could love lol. Id like to know how they managed to subdue it though. And again, Misato shows how much she cares about Shinji. I laughed when she slapped blondie again, can't say the bitch doesn't deserve it. Dont forget to watch End of Evangelion right after the series! Though I will say the sex scene at the end was kind of awkward. I also still don't trust Kaji, I doubt hes the good guy in all this. I'm sure he has his own selfish reasons for doing what hes doing. I just hope nothing happens to Misato, shes the best character in this show. |
LowOfSolipsism said: Dont forget to watch End of Evangelion right after the series! Haha, I won't. Thanks :) |
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| This must have been when Gainax started to run out of a budget due to the all the stillframes and stock footage. Shinji's mom's soul spotted. Misato and Kaji had sex (that awkward 1 min. of moaning). |
| I think we all know the major symbolism for this episode: sex/sexuality Kind of weird how Shinji's mom was also prominent in this episode, alongside that symbolism. |
| You call this fan service? HA...trust me compared to modern anime ..this is nothing.. the symbolism in this was very mind boggling to say the least... You have to admit this was just to save budget,,nearly nothing here was new..but the way they reused there frames ..to making it into some kind of compelling mind boggling series of symbolism about life,desires and to be human was done well...so i will give them credit to that. |
| Yeah this is the episode that starts adding more confusing and psychological stuffs in. All the main characters have different pasts but are all mentally broken, and Shinji feels a sympathy toward them, how the heck can Shinji get out of the robot i have no idea. I rolfed so hard at the last part, is it necessary to put all those love making sound Jesus. |
| (rewatching again) 5/5 Psychological episode inside Shinji's mind. Fun stuff. One of the best sex scenes in anime. They don't need to show it. We know what was going on there. Just a heads-up for anyone watching this the first time: WATCH THE DIRECTOR'S CUT OF THE NEXT 4 EPISODES, not the original TV version. They are so much better. |
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| Fucking hell, I almost had a seizure watching this episode. All that flashing was really not needed. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| Confusing episode , Now I think its clear that there is some relation between the Eva-01 and Shinji's mother . |
| ''oral stage'' hehe hehehehhehe ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| Was really nice to see deep into Shinji's mind. |
| I like the soliloquies in this series a lot. They're thought provoking and the soundtrack used in those scenes is awesome. What was with Shinji's dreaming about Rei, Asuka and Misato all together anyway? Ritzuka (I don't know how her name is spelled, the scientist woman) said, before she started working at Nerv, they tried to save another person and failed. Is it Shinji's mom? Did she become one with the Eva? Whoa, that fanservice was a bit too much ^_^ |
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| @karineyn You're right: By fanservice, you mean the nude figures of the female characters during Shinji's self interrogation? It wasn't as much fanservice as a part of his thoughts illustration. Or the end scene? Because it was not directed in a distasteful way, there is nothing here for the pleasure of the "fan". |
Rei_IIINov 5, 2016 11:17 PM
| I felt like I was on a huge acid trip while watching this episode xD Hopefully Shinji becomes one in body and mind with Rei ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| What weird tippy mindfuck episode. I find it very disturbing to see Shinji's plug suit empty.So he merges with Unit 01. That's scary. He also stayed merged with it for about a month. I guess Misato really does care for Shinji. This isn't the first time she's cried for him to come back. I'm glad there's at least one person who cares for him. She also got it on with Kaji! Misato's moans~~~ A present? What is it exactly? Shinji's mother sure sounds a lot like Rei. Also if Gendo and his wife had a girl they would've named her Rei... somehow I'm guessing they're connected in some way. Are Rei and Shinji siblings and Shinji doesn't know about it? Hmm. Didn't really like the "fanservice" in this. It felt so out of place. Not many episodes left. There are only 6 plus the End of Evangelion movie. Let's continue on... |
| @Nano1124 Yui "sounds a lot like Rei", do you mean their voices? (japanese by the way?). Also, no mention of Yui, Naoko, the fact Ritsuko simply reuses a plan made for a prior "accident"? Why is everyone considering the Ryôji/Misato scene sexual fan-service when it's done way more tactfully than in those Hollywood movies and actually contribute to the overall? ==== @HamburgerSpike He comes and goes during the 24th episode. This poster is strange, I didn't even have it as cover on my VHS and DVD boxes. @Nishi_23 Ahah, what's confusing in the commentaries? (you probably got the scene right, it's not something complex) |
Rei_IIIJul 30, 2017 9:02 AM
| Im confused If I found a plot hole or some shyt. Last episode he was in his school clothes while piloting the eva but this episode he turns out to have been wearing his "pilot uniform" when he is absorbed/trapped in it which he later finally popped out of the eva naked while Misato was shredding tears over his pilot uniform(should've been his school clothes?). Lol the sex at the end was unexpecting(censored btw and we only heard not saw). |
| Everyone else already said most of what I had in mind so I'll make my own contribution. Kaji didn't last very long... |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Hinata said: Im confused If I found a plot hole or some shyt. Last episode he was in his school clothes while piloting the eva but this episode he turns out to have been wearing his "pilot uniform" when he is absorbed/trapped in it which he later finally popped out of the eva naked while Misato was shredding tears over his pilot uniform(should've been his school clothes?). Lol the sex at the end was unexpecting(censored btw and we only heard not saw). There is a quick line of dialog that says that his consciousness or whatever is "forming" the pilot suit. He actually just liquefied. |
PlateJan 23, 2017 10:57 PM
| So NGE is battle harem after all... This fast imagery was annoying as hell, almost got epilepsy. The funny thing is there are only 6 episodes left and we still havent even seen the guy with the biggest face on the cover. |
 Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself. That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes! |
| s_s I feel like I'm getting what that scene with Shinji was all about, but when I read the comments here... @Rei366 I'm not exactly a fast reader, and my thoughts quickly drift off. Combine that with the lightning fast subs and it's extremely hard to keep up. |
Nishi_23Jul 30, 2017 9:08 AM
Nishi_23 said: Try pausing the videos_s I feel like I'm getting what that scene with Shinji was all about, but when I read the comments here... @Rei366 I'm not exactly a fast reader, and my thoughts quickly drift off. Combine that with the lightning fast subs and it's extremely hard to keep up. |
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| The segment with Shinjis thoughts was very interesting again and showed how strong he's pressured by the desire to be liked and acknowledged by others. Dunno how I should interpret the nude scene of the females,tho.Maybe he wants to be desired in a sexuel way too ?xD The moaning at the end was pretty hot ^^ |
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