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Jul 7, 2017 5:39 AM
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NeoAnkara said: flannan said: DxD is actually shounen to the core. Power up when there are enemy, training when facing with challenge, some competition style battle and overall action packed show in general. It's just the way to power up and the idle SoL moment that make it little bit different. I'm sure there are high number of people looking to plot progression not just watch it for "PLOT".Pullman said: HaXXspetten said: Pullman said: Yeah that does happen but really TLR and DxD are quite different types of ecchi so it's not really a good head-to-head comparisonHaXXspetten said: @Pullman Yeah I would say on general forums and similar, then there are a lot of people like that yes, and I definitely don't support that mindset either. But on the inside it's definitely different Other fandoms tear each other apart over which shows are the best of their genre (look at the battle shounen fandom for example), but ecchi fans seem to unanimously care more about the girls and stuff than about which show is the best at it. Well there are different kinds of ecchi shows too, but for the most part it generally turns into #bestgirl debates instead (not that those are always productive either mind you :P)Haha I didn't mean to say all ecchi shows are the same. I just rarely see ecchi fans arguing whether TLR or DxD is the pinnacle of the genre (random examples). As you said it's more about the characters and not which show they are from which makes it a pretty unique fandom to me. I see. I just mentioned them because they are probably the two shows I've seen most often to be praised beyond belief by ecchi fans. Just out of curiosity, what's the defining difference between them? I know next to nothing about both shows. To Love Ru is a comedy. Highschool DxD is a battle anime. Thus, when a scary monster appears, DxD protagonist has to gather his courage and fight. In To Love Ru, the monster gives up when the protagonist gathers his courage, because it's actually very weak. Next the monster's wife comes and beats him up for cheating. To Love Ru's main character is a stereotypical main character - too nice for his own good, and too timid to actually advance relationships. Highschool DxD's main character is the pervert sort of MC, always lusting after girls and not doing much to actually build relationships that could lead somewhere. I've seen only a few episodes of Highschool DxD, because I can't stand protagonists like that, so I will refrain from more detailed explanations. Also it may be slow but the relationship advance quite smoothly. Well not quite smooth since there is always trouble that need to be overcome. I think I'd be more likely to enjoy TLR based on those descriptions. Ecchi + comedy has worked for me in the past when done interestingly, while I probably love straight-up battle shounen too much to put up with a lot of fanservice distractions in a show with that basis. Anyway, thanks for the information both of you! |
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Jul 7, 2017 5:45 AM
#52
Pullman said: Well there are time when it distracting but there is also a moment where it's so out of there development that you can't help but amazed with.NeoAnkara said: flannan said: Pullman said: HaXXspetten said: Pullman said: Yeah that does happen but really TLR and DxD are quite different types of ecchi so it's not really a good head-to-head comparisonHaXXspetten said: @Pullman Yeah I would say on general forums and similar, then there are a lot of people like that yes, and I definitely don't support that mindset either. But on the inside it's definitely different Other fandoms tear each other apart over which shows are the best of their genre (look at the battle shounen fandom for example), but ecchi fans seem to unanimously care more about the girls and stuff than about which show is the best at it. Well there are different kinds of ecchi shows too, but for the most part it generally turns into #bestgirl debates instead (not that those are always productive either mind you :P)Haha I didn't mean to say all ecchi shows are the same. I just rarely see ecchi fans arguing whether TLR or DxD is the pinnacle of the genre (random examples). As you said it's more about the characters and not which show they are from which makes it a pretty unique fandom to me. I see. I just mentioned them because they are probably the two shows I've seen most often to be praised beyond belief by ecchi fans. Just out of curiosity, what's the defining difference between them? I know next to nothing about both shows. To Love Ru is a comedy. Highschool DxD is a battle anime. Thus, when a scary monster appears, DxD protagonist has to gather his courage and fight. In To Love Ru, the monster gives up when the protagonist gathers his courage, because it's actually very weak. Next the monster's wife comes and beats him up for cheating. To Love Ru's main character is a stereotypical main character - too nice for his own good, and too timid to actually advance relationships. Highschool DxD's main character is the pervert sort of MC, always lusting after girls and not doing much to actually build relationships that could lead somewhere. I've seen only a few episodes of Highschool DxD, because I can't stand protagonists like that, so I will refrain from more detailed explanations. Also it may be slow but the relationship advance quite smoothly. Well not quite smooth since there is always trouble that need to be overcome. I think I'd be more likely to enjoy TLR based on those descriptions. Ecchi + comedy has worked for me in the past when done interestingly, while I probably love straight-up battle shounen too much to put up with a lot of fanservice distractions in a show with that basis. Anyway, thanks for the information both of you! |
Jul 7, 2017 5:45 AM
#53
Pullman said: Hmmm I don't really judge art or animation that much Deknijff said: Yeah that's true. I've pretty much scoured the complete Nhentai database over the years and I found maybe ~20 bookmarks that have a perfect combination of what I'm looking for. In Hentai it is already kinda hard to find two of those aspects in the same title even the not very specific ones.Pullman said: Deknijff said: Hentai is just too generic for me, idk. I can barely find anything that caters to my fetishes. It's either very vanilla (BORING) or completely off the rails tentacle rape or NTR (kills my boner). I've tried looking for hentai I like but I failed for the most part aside from finding some decent loli ones without any particular appeal beyond that. I also find it harder to look for hentai's with specific fetishes/combinations of tags compared to looking for doujins but that's probably because I know my way around doujin sites much better.EcchiLordMamster said: eh not really Mamster and hentai sucks sure some hentai suck like the cancer Queen Bee makes but of the 700 hentai Ive watched Id say for the most part its pretty good with its ups and downs but yes hentai can be pretty hard when it comes to pleasing everyones's fetish as I think if I'm not mistaken it has to be made for a big group of people while doujins are pretty much made for certain individuals that like that kind of stuff Im lucky as I just have a mainly very strong penetration fetish so for the most part I can watch/read all kinds of hentai/doujins But I still seem to be mostly drawn towards hentai more so than doujins despite thinking they are of equal value And I can understand preferring hentai if you think both are of equal value. I generally prefer anime over manga when they are 'equal' because of all the stuff like music, colors, movement, voices. There's just more aspects to it to enjoy. Personally I just haven't found my endeavours with hentai very satisfying tho so I can't say they're of equal value to me. Fetishes aside, I don't think there's any hentai that can reach the artwork of the highest tier doujin artists. It's just not affordable to animate that level of details. It would be glorious if it were tho :> as long as I can see what is happening Im for the most part good |
Jul 7, 2017 5:47 AM
#54
Pullman said: Depends a bit on which part of TLR you're referring to (as there are two manga of it). The first part is more of a traditional romcom with a lot of ecchi on top of it; it's not bad but pretty cliché. It's mainly the second part (Darkness) which it is famous for as that turns it into perhaps the most extreme take on pure ecchi/harem elements you can find, as for one its ecchi elements are a millimeter away from being hentai a lot of the time, but also it's a very rare case of an actual true harem in the sense that half the story revolves around trying to pair together the MC with as many girls as possible simultaneously as potential future concubines. Instead of the girls just fighting over him as they normally would, in here one of the girls is legitimately trying to build a fully functioning harem for him (as she believes it's the only way he'd accept her feelings) by pulling strings from the shadows in order to help all the girls score points with him. Normally that kind of plotline would be impossible due to polygamy being illegal in Japan, but here there are a bunch of alien girls involved from an extraterrestrial society where harems are legal and acceptable. I like Darkness a lot more than DxD too, and I think in general it resolves a lot of the general problems with the harem genre (also in general it has one of the best female harem casts you'll find in the genre)NeoAnkara said: flannan said: Pullman said: HaXXspetten said: Pullman said: Yeah that does happen but really TLR and DxD are quite different types of ecchi so it's not really a good head-to-head comparisonHaXXspetten said: @Pullman Yeah I would say on general forums and similar, then there are a lot of people like that yes, and I definitely don't support that mindset either. But on the inside it's definitely different Other fandoms tear each other apart over which shows are the best of their genre (look at the battle shounen fandom for example), but ecchi fans seem to unanimously care more about the girls and stuff than about which show is the best at it. Well there are different kinds of ecchi shows too, but for the most part it generally turns into #bestgirl debates instead (not that those are always productive either mind you :P)Haha I didn't mean to say all ecchi shows are the same. I just rarely see ecchi fans arguing whether TLR or DxD is the pinnacle of the genre (random examples). As you said it's more about the characters and not which show they are from which makes it a pretty unique fandom to me. I see. I just mentioned them because they are probably the two shows I've seen most often to be praised beyond belief by ecchi fans. Just out of curiosity, what's the defining difference between them? I know next to nothing about both shows. To Love Ru is a comedy. Highschool DxD is a battle anime. Thus, when a scary monster appears, DxD protagonist has to gather his courage and fight. In To Love Ru, the monster gives up when the protagonist gathers his courage, because it's actually very weak. Next the monster's wife comes and beats him up for cheating. To Love Ru's main character is a stereotypical main character - too nice for his own good, and too timid to actually advance relationships. Highschool DxD's main character is the pervert sort of MC, always lusting after girls and not doing much to actually build relationships that could lead somewhere. I've seen only a few episodes of Highschool DxD, because I can't stand protagonists like that, so I will refrain from more detailed explanations. Also it may be slow but the relationship advance quite smoothly. Well not quite smooth since there is always trouble that need to be overcome. I think I'd be more likely to enjoy TLR based on those descriptions. Ecchi + comedy has worked for me in the past when done interestingly, while I probably love straight-up battle shounen too much to put up with a lot of fanservice distractions in a show with that basis. Anyway, thanks for the information both of you! |
Jul 7, 2017 6:04 AM
#55
Do just need to heed the words of a mortal who descended from the the top~ zombie_pegasus said: I've noticed that a lot of ecchi fans hate hentai while hentai fans and many bystanders believe that hentai would be the more logical choice if you're just wanting to fap. There are more to hentai than just something you fap. Sometimes it brings a pure story of siblings who wants to affirm their love for each other, a long lost love who suddenly sparked when they met each other, or possibly a new found love which sparked when imouto-chan saw onii-chan fapping while sniffing her pantsu. This kind of excerpts isn't just something you fap but you treasure it because of what it brings. Ecchi cannot convey something as pure as love can be, which I think hentai has done perfectly well everything time. I'm too soft with "happy endings" or story filled with nothing but "good things", Ecchi can provide a glimpse of that, but hentai brings you to that pleasure. Well either way, this is just me saying, " I prefer reading hentai" |
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Jul 7, 2017 6:48 AM
#56
If you are a fan of one of these do you hate the other? No @Deknijff gave me a list of hentai recs a while back I still need to get around to ._. I don't know why I haven't watched more, there isn't really a reason other than my own laziness. I definitely don't hate it whatsoever and I find it baffling as to why I've watched so few at this point in time. What do you think of its fans? I like the fanbase quite a bit, better than the fanbase for any of my other interests, and the ones I've associated with have consistently made for entertaining conversation. I wanna associate more and more, but I'm kind of a puss about small talk because I'm just no good at it. Communication feels like it excels and infighting is largely minimal compared to other fanbases I've considered myself a part of. If you watch both which do you like more? Eh, can't really say tbh, partly because I lack experience with hentai for reasons I don't really grasp myself and partly because I find them to be pretty different with only a thread or two attaching them The difference between ecchi and hentai is that ecchi is just sexualized anime whereas hentai is porn, or at least that's the distinction I've always drawn. It usually works on top of of existing elements, like school romcoms or sci-fi action stuffs or whatever it may be, and is just lewd about it rather than much else. Usually I'm more zeroed in on the girls and finding the ones I like best and awaiting their scenes, be it dialogue or fanservice stuffs, and I think it's because of that which makes me find a few criticisms lobbed by outsiders feel kind of alien to me, like 'goddamn the MC sucks no personality,' when I just sort of wonder why they're so concerned about the MC to begin with when I really only ever get the impression that he's there as a stagehand to set up the ecchi content in these cases rather than the one actually topping the bill. Stuff like that confuses me moreso than anything. |
Jul 7, 2017 6:56 AM
#57
romagia said: id rather fap to girls i know ecchi or not than hentai girls with no personality https://myanimelist.net/character/124039/Rei_Suzukawa NP, I always love to help <3 OT: Ecchi shows can be god-tier, tho a bunch of them are complete turds for prudish weebs undergoing (or stuck in) an hormonal crisis. Also, the MAL tags don't help (Sankarea, ecchi? WTF) I have yet to find a god-tier hentai, but I'm still open to suggestions. |
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Jul 7, 2017 7:00 AM
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If you are a fan of one of these do you hate the other? Nope (but I dislike a lost of hentai ANIME, manga is another thing tho)What do you think of its fans? Way better than most fanbases but has some black sheep as well. If you watch both which do you like more? The thing is, I READ more than watch, and this applies to both. But I think it goes like this: Borderline H > Hentai manga/Doujins > Lighter Ecchi >>>>>>>>>> Hentai Anime. |
Jul 7, 2017 7:05 AM
#59
The tags for both harem and ecchi alike are nothing short of being total fucking jokes and I think the only way to solve this issue is through a violent riot tbh burn a few cars maybe, idk It annoys me greatly because it makes using these tags to find something to watch a dice roll just about, and in the same vein if somebody wants to avoid these tags it probably doesn't help at the current state and these are tags people usually explicitly seek out or explicitly seek to avoid so I don't really know why it's just applied so poorly so consistently, I'd think it'd take some sort of importance because of that I don't think it'd be so difficult to agree upon some sort of standard for applying these tags at least ._. As it stands it really feels like there is none whatsoever |
ManabanJul 7, 2017 7:09 AM
Jul 7, 2017 7:08 AM
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EcchiLordMamster said: Thanks for the mention as always.Deknijff said: EcchiLordMamster said: and hentai sucks sure some hentai suck like the cancer Queen Bee makes but of the 700 hentai Ive watched Id say for the most part its pretty good with its ups and downs well i mean.. you do you.. for me, ass, titties and pantsu randomly filling the screen is way hotter than anything hentai could do i do have hentai pictures, but idk, my brain is just wired to like softcore stuff way better.. the surprise factor of "you're not supposed to see this here" is too strong for me @JustALEX @Pantsuandbutts @_Ako_ @Sasalx @Darek I prefer ecchi. Especially over hentai anime. Everyone has their specific kinks and mine is panties. |
Jul 7, 2017 7:10 AM
#61
this is funny lol. nah why are we debating this lol. |
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Jul 7, 2017 7:11 AM
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Jul 7, 2017 7:19 AM
#63
@Deknijff Some ppl are more turned on by surprise factor lol Damn man, my bad, I don't not like hentai because I like ecchi, I don't like hentai because I don't like hentai @flannan Pullman said: As for the fapping, you can't blame people when 90% of the vocal and loudest ecchi fans here always go around emphasizing how they fap to ecchi all the time. It's the image the ecchi fans themselves want to have, to fap to those shows. People just take them for their word ^^. I am under the impression only @EcchiLordMamster is actually like this. He is just that vocal.[/quote] Well yea like I said my brain is just more wired towards softcore stuff, especially when I don't see it coming, so I get anannoyed by the "just look at porn" ppl @PantsuAndButts Yea man, "you're not supposed to see this" factor all day Clebardman said: OT: Ecchi shows can be god-tier, tho a bunch of them are complete turds for prudish weebs undergoing (or stuck in) an hormonal crisis. Stfu, fuck you lol.. sorry mother nature wires ppls brains differently.. aren't you so mature |
EcchiGodMamsterJul 7, 2017 7:28 AM
Jul 7, 2017 7:20 AM
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Clebardman said: @Manaban Can't remember the name since I only use MAL, but another database site use weighted ratings. Sankarea is probably tagged Ecchi 1/5 there, and Valkyrie Drive 5/5 masterpiece (^: I usually use AniDB for weighted tags. |
Jul 7, 2017 7:47 AM
#65
Nice topic. I watch hentai for the faps, and ecchi (rarely) for the comedy. |
Jul 7, 2017 7:53 AM
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Clebardman said: @Manaban Can't remember the name since I only use MAL, but another database site use weighted ratings. Sankarea is probably tagged Ecchi 1/5 there, and Valkyrie Drive 5/5 masterpiece (^: I mean goddamn, since it's usually just such an individual based thing on "how much is too much" then that would be a great approach, 0 would be none, 1 would be very little, 5 would be perfect best animu ever, so on and so forth But at the very least they could agree on some sort of threshold ._. I will forever be assblasted about this until KLK and a few others are tagged as ecchi or all of the stuff lesser than it are removed as ecchi, since there is stuff like Nazo no Kanojo X tagged as ecchi and it seems like outright insanity to say there is nearly as much sexualized content in it as there is other stuff that doesn't even have the tag The bar should be set where there is at least some semblance of sanity in how the tags are applied ._. There is just no such thing as consistency with these tags, stuff with notable amounts of ecchi doesn't have the tag but stuff with barely any at all does ------- i am a simple man, i see this topic brought up and i rant about it for no reason, so i apologize for derailing the thread a bit |
Jul 7, 2017 7:56 AM
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Seems obvious to me that a lot of ecchi fans also watch hentai, or at least look at doujin. The only exclusivity ecchi might have is 10-14 year olds afraid to look at actual porn/locked down with parental controls. |
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Jul 7, 2017 8:03 AM
#68
And in the end, ecchi is better than hentai... |
Jul 7, 2017 8:14 AM
#69
I watch both but i don't like them that much. Ecchi tends to be too unrealistic/childist with a light/comedy vibe and never takes it self seriously or goes deep in both psysical and emocional relationships. Hentai on other hand tens to go imediatly to action without previously teasing you. Worst it tends to be infested with fetiches/tentacles and other crazy stuff that is, for me, a huge turn-off. I would like to see a ecchi/hentai anime that really teases you (like kiss x sis) but with a more mature aproach (like Kuzu no Honkai) and that goes deeper both in emotions and physical relationships. |
Jul 7, 2017 8:17 AM
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@EcchiLordMamster Props for you father. You are defending ecchi like there's no tomorrow. OT: Soo tbh I am fşne with both of them. For hentai I mean it just describes itself. If it is in my fetish radar good for me. As for ecchi it's little tricker. Many can say I don't like ecchi because I hate shows like To Love Ru Highschool DxD or Highschool of the Dead but to me main problem is how well it used. If it's there just because real plot is weak and too fill it it's not my taste. For example Monogatari. There are really a lot of ecchi moments in the show but it nevers break the story. And hey who can say no to Kanbaru gifs... |
Jul 7, 2017 8:31 AM
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CatSoul said: Seems obvious to me that a lot of ecchi fans also watch hentai, or at least look at doujin. The only exclusivity ecchi might have is 10-14 year olds afraid to look at actual porn/locked down with parental controls. Yall mfs are out to trigger me lol.. I'm 27 and I don't like hentai, but I obviously look at porn, so youre just wrong there, most hardcore ecchi fans are like 20+... I would know lol @sasalx Lol idgaf how ecchi is used, all that matters to me is whether or not I'm turned on |
Jul 7, 2017 9:31 AM
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EcchiLordMamster said: ok well thats fine not everyone can like everything @Deknijff Damn man, my bad, I don't not like hentai because I like ecchi, I don't like hentai because I don't like hentai but please don't say hentai sucks just because its not your thing |
Jul 7, 2017 10:24 AM
#73
I can't watch pointless ecchi that's just a boring guy surrounded by hot grills because it teases you but doesn't give you enough meat to do anything with it, if you get me. I enjoy ecchi if it's funny, or had badass fights in it or something like that. I liked the fights and comedy in DxD, so I loved watching that one. But I find ecchi like To Love Ru pretty insufferable. Since I'm not gonna watch ecchi for the, well, ecchi, it has to have other stuff to offer me as well for me to get anything out of it. If I want something to whack off to, I'll go straight to hentai mate. |
Jul 7, 2017 11:21 AM
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Deknijff said: EcchiLordMamster said: ok well thats fine not everyone can like everything @Deknijff Damn man, my bad, I don't not like hentai because I like ecchi, I don't like hentai because I don't like hentai but please don't say hentai sucks just because its not your thing LMAO well for me hentai sucks for fap material, is that better wording? not as a concept, i love the idea of hentai as a concept, i think its genius keep in mind, i don't think theres ANYTHING wrong with fapping to ANY KIND of hentai, i don't care, you do you, im an advocate for any kind of fap material, provided its either not real, or no one is being harmed against their will unlike other people, i don't act as though theres something wrong with people who get off to things that i'd never get off to CrustyRolls said: I can't watch pointless ecchi that's just a boring guy surrounded by hot grills because it teases you but doesn't give you enough meat to do anything with it, if you get me. I enjoy ecchi if it's funny, or had badass fights in it or something like that. I liked the fights and comedy in DxD, so I loved watching that one. But I find ecchi like To Love Ru pretty insufferable. Since I'm not gonna watch ecchi for the, well, ecchi, it has to have other stuff to offer me as well for me to get anything out of it. If I want something to whack off to, I'll go straight to hentai mate. you need cleansing.. come to the ecchi church and i'll fix you up in no time :) |
EcchiGodMamsterJul 7, 2017 11:24 AM
Jul 7, 2017 11:25 AM
#75
EcchiLordMamster said: Deknijff said: EcchiLordMamster said: @Deknijff Damn man, my bad, I don't not like hentai because I like ecchi, I don't like hentai because I don't like hentai but please don't say hentai sucks just because its not your thing LMAO well for me hentai sucks.. not as a concept, but just for fap material, keep in mind, i don't think theres ANYTHING wrong with fapping to ANY KIND of hentai, i don't care, you do you, im an advocate for any kind of fap material unlike other people, i don't act as though theres something wrong with people who get off to things that i'd never get off to CrustyRolls said: I can't watch pointless ecchi that's just a boring guy surrounded by hot grills because it teases you but doesn't give you enough meat to do anything with it, if you get me. I enjoy ecchi if it's funny, or had badass fights in it or something like that. I liked the fights and comedy in DxD, so I loved watching that one. But I find ecchi like To Love Ru pretty insufferable. Since I'm not gonna watch ecchi for the, well, ecchi, it has to have other stuff to offer me as well for me to get anything out of it. If I want something to whack off to, I'll go straight to hentai mate. you need cleansing.. come to the ecchi church and i'll fix you up in no time :) Wow the Lord Mamster has noticed me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) If you saw my hentai collection you'd know I'm beyond saving. I wouldn't mind watching ecchi with bae, but not on my own. |
Jul 7, 2017 11:28 AM
#76
CrustyRolls said: Wow the Lord Mamster has noticed me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) If you saw my hentai collection you'd know I'm beyond saving. I wouldn't mind watching ecchi with bae, but not on my own. oh i see.. so you need to watch ecchi with her to keep yourself from jerking off? ah.. i guess you definitely don't need saving then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
Jul 7, 2017 11:40 AM
#77
"I love the idea of pornography as a concept. I think it's genius." i find this kind of funny tbh |
Jul 7, 2017 11:40 AM
#78
EcchiLordMamster said: CrustyRolls said: Wow the Lord Mamster has noticed me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) If you saw my hentai collection you'd know I'm beyond saving. I wouldn't mind watching ecchi with bae, but not on my own. oh i see.. so you need to watch ecchi with her to keep yourself from jerking off? ah.. i guess you definitely don't need saving then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hahaha... I'm a girl, you know xD Silly billy. |
Jul 7, 2017 11:40 AM
#79
I prefer ecchi because hentai is short and concentrated on adult scenes where ecchi is longer and you get a mix of an anime with a story and sexual scenes. 2 in 1 :P |
Jul 7, 2017 11:43 AM
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EcchiLordMamster said: CatSoul said: Seems obvious to me that a lot of ecchi fans also watch hentai, or at least look at doujin. The only exclusivity ecchi might have is 10-14 year olds afraid to look at actual porn/locked down with parental controls. Yall mfs are out to trigger me lol.. I'm 27 and I don't like hentai, but I obviously look at porn, so youre just wrong there, most hardcore ecchi fans are like 20+... I would know lol @sasalx Lol idgaf how ecchi is used, all that matters to me is whether or not I'm turned on Yeah I don't know why this is the stereotype. All ecchi fans I know are adults. Hentai fans are more likely to all together not be anime fans or not watch normal anime at all? Least from what I gathered. I actually think people like myself more hentai than ecchi fan, are more rare than someone who watches more ecchi than hentai. But it might also depend on if a person watches more classic anime thane new. And if a person is into more hardcore stuff. I think as a person who literally was made more a fan by rape fantasy yaoi stuff firmly will put me in the hentai category forever even if I NOW don't like the rape part, there are a LOT of stuff around it that I DO LIKE. And actually bad stuff happening to girls isn't near as bad as bad stuff happening to gay boys who are precious angels to me no-don't-hurt. I don't jerk off to ecchi... as you know I have sex after whatever turns me on. And if it can't make the pot boil over, it needs to be enjoyable beyond that. So in a sense, there is a higher standard. Kanokon was hot enough. Video Girl Ai was entertaining enough on it's own. Same with Keijo. Ecchi is more like an energy shot. But Yaoi is like... SEX. I really want sex if I read yaoi. And there is nothing that will ever top it. And I have for all that is good tried my best. Some hentai will have scenes I like, but then immediately follow with something I am so turned off by it is like "why am I watching this?" My husband on the other hand is turned on by everything. Me, even a llot of what is animated for yaoi does not turn me on. I need something so specific it makes me angry. BAD BOYS who KILL rapists and then have sex with their best friend consensually, pretty much a 10/10 guarantee everytime. Having best friend sex will also normally be a 10/10. any hentai which asks stuff like "do you want to have sex?" 10/10. But honestly, if they go track down the rapist and kill them, it is the best, and that only seems to happen in yaoi manga. And Urotsukidouji. |
Energetic-NovaJul 7, 2017 11:46 AM
The anime community in a nutshell. |
Jul 7, 2017 11:48 AM
#81
I love certain ecchi series both for humor/story/characters and cock tease. I like hentai for alternate fap material. I dont hate either. |
Jul 7, 2017 12:07 PM
#82
Manaban said: "I love the idea of pornography as a concept. I think it's genius." i find this kind of funny tbh LOL no.. i mean like the creativity that hentai goes to... obviously theres shit in hentai that can't happen irl CrustyRolls said: EcchiLordMamster said: CrustyRolls said: Wow the Lord Mamster has noticed me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) If you saw my hentai collection you'd know I'm beyond saving. I wouldn't mind watching ecchi with bae, but not on my own. oh i see.. so you need to watch ecchi with her to keep yourself from jerking off? ah.. i guess you definitely don't need saving then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hahaha... I'm a girl, you know xD Silly billy. ............. oh not gonna lie i feel dumb XD @Jonouchi-Katsuya lol seriously.. this whole idea that "most ecchi fans are horny teens" must only come from people who live under rocks or just never talk about that kind of stuff with people. i even know THREE married men who are all over 35ish who only watch fanservice anime lol you seem really specific, as do many other people on here who watch hentai.. i've never really known how that works cause im damn easily turned on.. just shove tits in the screen and ill get a boner and be tempted to fap lol and yea the things that turn girls on are definitively not the same, and readin what you said it makes sense why many of the most extreme hentai or doujins are written by women lol |
Jul 7, 2017 12:28 PM
#83
EcchiLordMamster said: Manaban said: "I love the idea of pornography as a concept. I think it's genius." i find this kind of funny tbh LOL no.. i mean like the creativity that hentai goes to... obviously theres shit in hentai that can't happen irl CrustyRolls said: EcchiLordMamster said: CrustyRolls said: Wow the Lord Mamster has noticed me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) If you saw my hentai collection you'd know I'm beyond saving. I wouldn't mind watching ecchi with bae, but not on my own. oh i see.. so you need to watch ecchi with her to keep yourself from jerking off? ah.. i guess you definitely don't need saving then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hahaha... I'm a girl, you know xD Silly billy. ............. oh not gonna lie i feel dumb XD @Jonouchi-Katsuya lol seriously.. this whole idea that "most ecchi fans are horny teens" must only come from people who live under rocks or just never talk about that kind of stuff with people. i even know THREE married men who are all over 35ish who only watch fanservice anime lol you seem really specific, as do many other people on here who watch hentai.. i've never really known how that works cause im damn easily turned on.. just shove tits in the screen and ill get a boner and be tempted to fap lol and yea the things that turn girls on are definitively not the same, and readin what you said it makes sense why many of the most extreme hentai or doujins are written by women lol Totally true. Women and men definitely get turned on by different things. For me, an accurately bouncing chest is part of the battle. I love when boobs are super accurate. I get really turns on when that happens. They can't just randomly flop. Consequently, I tend to like flat chests more. And women, like older rather than younger. Which can also be an issue. And you if you want some Pettan+ 18+ it is pretty hard to find. Keijo was god for this. But I also just like when they look "normal" so Gunbuster appeals to me a lot. When you have boobs you get more picky about movement and how they look! I have had every size from AA-DDD so I know what it all looks like and their behavior. ugggg. Currently a D. Nothing is still more accurate than that sweet sweet Gainax Bounce. But seriously, we look at ourselves every day.... if it is inaccurate, you lose the connection. I think girls get turned on more by acts of betrayal than men do. And like acts of aggression. I like both. But I like them consensual. :P Which makes my stuff way more hard to find. GDI. THANK GOD FOR YAKUZA YAOI. Strangely enough, Yakuza yaoi- yaoi of honor I swear. It is the yaoi of father complexes and best friend fucking, and "you can't rape what is willing". I love cheaters and dramus and backstabbing things. Blackmail is life. I just prefer the main pairing stay "sweet". |
Energetic-NovaJul 7, 2017 12:31 PM
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Jul 7, 2017 12:39 PM
#84
@Ecchilordmamster So, there was a manga I read called Complex here recently. Both boys were victims of a molester right? And they were best friends. They grew up together and they finally kinda have sex right but right after one gets hit by a car kinda ending his ability to play their fave sport together (soccer).They ignore each other for a while. Guilt about the whole thing and like mostly "oh noes my friend can't play soccer and all my faults" but then he finds out his friend has been watching him the whole time from the library... and he goes up there... and they fuck in the library. I moaned a lot reading that. And my husband was like "I thought this one had pedo shit?" And I was like "no no I am not moaning to that your stupid head, they are bonding over shared stupid crap that happened to them and it is beautiful" This manga does tell their whole lives after that. It was a great manga. >.<; But nobody in anime community would think BEST FRIENDS having shared rape experience healing together would be ROMANTIC and moany arch my back worthy. Shiiiit. Yuri on Ice, Episode 10,when they exchange rings, Same shit. I orgasmed 3 times to it. I cried for 5 hours. Yuri on Ice should be marked Ecchi not for the numerous ass shots but for the sexy ring exchange. |
Energetic-NovaJul 7, 2017 12:44 PM
The anime community in a nutshell. |
Jul 7, 2017 1:06 PM
#85
KondeKeimado said: hmm, I MIGHT have something for you if you don't mind manga. Tho this is not exactly what you might want, but eh, close enough.I would like to see a ecchi/hentai anime that really teases you (like kiss x sis) but with a more mature aproach (like Kuzu no Honkai) and that goes deeper both in emotions and physical relationships. https://myanimelist.net/manga/30123/Minamoto-kun_Monogatari Few things to know before you start tho (might slightly spoiler-ish, but I think it is better to know about those things anyways: - The chapters are REALLY short, I mean like, 8-9 pages each, you are better off binging it than anything else. - It goes further than Kiss X Sis, as the characters actually have sex, it keeps it to somewhat a minimum so that it does not become hentai. But it is as close to a hentai as ecchi can get, tho I would say it lays more in the gray area. - The translation has not gotten there but I have to warn you, apparently at one point it gets a little but NTRish... And rapeish at the same time... I am not excited to get to that part myself but I think it is important to note. - Most of the girls are milfs, so that is a nice change of pace, not that I don't like the teen/loli girls most ecchi has, but there is not enough milfs sadly. |
Jul 7, 2017 1:38 PM
#86
Darek said: KondeKeimado said: hmm, I MIGHT have something for you if you don't mind manga. Tho this is not exactly what you might want, but eh, close enough.I would like to see a ecchi/hentai anime that really teases you (like kiss x sis) but with a more mature aproach (like Kuzu no Honkai) and that goes deeper both in emotions and physical relationships. https://myanimelist.net/manga/30123/Minamoto-kun_Monogatari Few things to know before you start tho (might slightly spoiler-ish, but I think it is better to know about those things anyways: - The chapters are REALLY short, I mean like, 8-9 pages each, you are better off binging it than anything else. - It goes further than Kiss X Sis, as the characters actually have sex, it keeps it to somewhat a minimum so that it does not become hentai. But it is as close to a hentai as ecchi can get, tho I would say it lays more in the gray area. - The translation has not gotten there but I have to warn you, apparently at one point it gets a little but NTRish... And rapeish at the same time... I am not excited to get to that part myself but I think it is important to note. - Most of the girls are milfs, so that is a nice change of pace, not that I don't like the teen/loli girls most ecchi has, but there is not enough milfs sadly. First: thanks a lot for the recomendation; Second: To be honest i don´t like either lolis/cute girls or MILFs but if is good who cares? xD; Third: Going further than Kiss x Sis is good(exactly what i want); Forth: to be honest i never have read manga before and i didn't had intentions to do so, but this in particular seems interesting so i will give it a try if i find it somewhere. Maybe i find a new passion (manga). Thanks |
Jul 7, 2017 3:46 PM
#87
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Totally true. Women and men definitely get turned on by different things. For me, an accurately bouncing chest is part of the battle. I love when boobs are super accurate. I get really turns on when that happens. They can't just randomly flop. Consequently, I tend to like flat chests more. And women, like older rather than younger. Which can also be an issue. And you if you want some Pettan+ 18+ it is pretty hard to find. Keijo was god for this. But I also just like when they look "normal" so Gunbuster appeals to me a lot. When you have boobs you get more picky about movement and how they look! I have had every size from AA-DDD so I know what it all looks like and their behavior. ugggg. Currently a D. Nothing is still more accurate than that sweet sweet Gainax Bounce. But seriously, we look at ourselves every day.... if it is inaccurate, you lose the connection. I think girls get turned on more by acts of betrayal than men do. And like acts of aggression. I like both. But I like them consensual. :P Which makes my stuff way more hard to find. GDI. THANK GOD FOR YAKUZA YAOI. Strangely enough, Yakuza yaoi- yaoi of honor I swear. It is the yaoi of father complexes and best friend fucking, and "you can't rape what is willing". I love cheaters and dramus and backstabbing things. Blackmail is life. I just prefer the main pairing stay "sweet". i LOOOOOVVEEE gainaxing boobs.. idgaf if its unealistic, its still hot af to me, but ofc i like lolis and the like as well, theyre just harder to fap to for me because less curves damn lol.. pretty easy to be the ecchi lord when you'll fap to the slightest thing, cause im already reading other peoples struggles XD |
Jul 7, 2017 4:41 PM
#88
There's not enough ecchi by a long shot, but the current way the database is set up prevents people from finding all the sexy anime there is without extra research. I think instead of marking something with the Ecchi genre, there should be sexual content details for every anime like this: 1. Nudity above the waist? (Yes/No) 2. Nudity below the waist? (Yes/No) 3. Provocative clothing? (Yes/No) 4. Sexual actions? (Yes/No) 5. How many episodes contain this content? (#) Number 1 applies to any character that's not covering their torso at all (front and back) with a piece of clothing, OR the clothing isn't insufficient enough to cover a female character's nipples. If there's only band-aids, boob tape, or tassels covering a female character's nipples, that counts as number 3 and not number 1 because this is clothing. If a female character's nipples are covered by means other than clothing, it's still nudity. This includes paint or other substances, conveniently placed objects, her hands, or standard censorship. Number 2 is self-explanatory. Revealing undergarments count as number 3, unless they're not sufficient enough to cover the pubic area or sit between the butt cheeks. Number 3 is self-explanatory, but shall additionally apply to perverted camera angles. Number 4 is anything for the purpose of a character's seduction or sexual gratification. Number 5 just tallies how many episodes have an instance of these things at all. |
Jul 7, 2017 10:24 PM
#89
EcchiLordMamster said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Totally true. Women and men definitely get turned on by different things. For me, an accurately bouncing chest is part of the battle. I love when boobs are super accurate. I get really turns on when that happens. They can't just randomly flop. Consequently, I tend to like flat chests more. And women, like older rather than younger. Which can also be an issue. And you if you want some Pettan+ 18+ it is pretty hard to find. Keijo was god for this. But I also just like when they look "normal" so Gunbuster appeals to me a lot. When you have boobs you get more picky about movement and how they look! I have had every size from AA-DDD so I know what it all looks like and their behavior. ugggg. Currently a D. Nothing is still more accurate than that sweet sweet Gainax Bounce. But seriously, we look at ourselves every day.... if it is inaccurate, you lose the connection. I think girls get turned on more by acts of betrayal than men do. And like acts of aggression. I like both. But I like them consensual. :P Which makes my stuff way more hard to find. GDI. THANK GOD FOR YAKUZA YAOI. Strangely enough, Yakuza yaoi- yaoi of honor I swear. It is the yaoi of father complexes and best friend fucking, and "you can't rape what is willing". I love cheaters and dramus and backstabbing things. Blackmail is life. I just prefer the main pairing stay "sweet". i LOOOOOVVEEE gainaxing boobs.. idgaf if its unealistic, its still hot af to me, but ofc i like lolis and the like as well, theyre just harder to fap to for me because less curves damn lol.. pretty easy to be the ecchi lord when you'll fap to the slightest thing, cause im already reading other peoples struggles XD Gainax boobs from Anno-Gainax are realistic Bounce though. I have tested my own boobs to Gunbuster boobs and I have talked to other girls who have done the same. The updown motion of a perfect bounce is not cheap and should be treasured. It is much like photographing your own pantsu and your friends pantsu just to see how accurate anime drew the pantsu. Closer to real- more points. I actually think that anime gets pantsu more right than boobs. |
Energetic-NovaJul 7, 2017 10:30 PM
The anime community in a nutshell. |
Jul 7, 2017 10:35 PM
#90
I'd say the people who watch ecchi for whacking off and what not are a lot rarer that Hentai watchers. I mean ecchi seems to be intended more for comedy than sexual pleasure while Hentai is straight up for puttin in work with the jergens lotion. |
Jul 8, 2017 4:16 AM
#91
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: EcchiLordMamster said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Totally true. Women and men definitely get turned on by different things. For me, an accurately bouncing chest is part of the battle. I love when boobs are super accurate. I get really turns on when that happens. They can't just randomly flop. Consequently, I tend to like flat chests more. And women, like older rather than younger. Which can also be an issue. And you if you want some Pettan+ 18+ it is pretty hard to find. Keijo was god for this. But I also just like when they look "normal" so Gunbuster appeals to me a lot. When you have boobs you get more picky about movement and how they look! I have had every size from AA-DDD so I know what it all looks like and their behavior. ugggg. Currently a D. Nothing is still more accurate than that sweet sweet Gainax Bounce. But seriously, we look at ourselves every day.... if it is inaccurate, you lose the connection. I think girls get turned on more by acts of betrayal than men do. And like acts of aggression. I like both. But I like them consensual. :P Which makes my stuff way more hard to find. GDI. THANK GOD FOR YAKUZA YAOI. Strangely enough, Yakuza yaoi- yaoi of honor I swear. It is the yaoi of father complexes and best friend fucking, and "you can't rape what is willing". I love cheaters and dramus and backstabbing things. Blackmail is life. I just prefer the main pairing stay "sweet". i LOOOOOVVEEE gainaxing boobs.. idgaf if its unealistic, its still hot af to me, but ofc i like lolis and the like as well, theyre just harder to fap to for me because less curves damn lol.. pretty easy to be the ecchi lord when you'll fap to the slightest thing, cause im already reading other peoples struggles XD Gainax boobs from Anno-Gainax are realistic Bounce though. I have tested my own boobs to Gunbuster boobs and I have talked to other girls who have done the same. The updown motion of a perfect bounce is not cheap and should be treasured. It is much like photographing your own pantsu and your friends pantsu just to see how accurate anime drew the pantsu. Closer to real- more points. I actually think that anime gets pantsu more right than boobs. LOOOOOOLLL thats pretty godlike.. but like i said, i don't care whether or not its realistic.. its still hot why is neither an option in this case? it just gives some people an opportunity to lie so they don't have to feel guilty |
Jul 8, 2017 4:21 AM
#92
I've stopped watching hentai after realising that most of them are very poorly made (with very few exceptions), I prefer to read. As for ecchi...ehhh I'm slowly starting to lose hope in it, not many shows today that have actual good ecchi. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
Jul 8, 2017 5:09 AM
#93
Its either because ecchi fans just simply have no interest in it or they just arent ecchi enough. Cause hentai is ecchi in some cases regardless. If they don't realize and understand that then idk what to say. |
Jul 8, 2017 5:40 AM
#94
I don't watch either. Well, I'll watch ecchi if it's in a show that sounds good, but I wouldn't specifically watch for the ecchi. Hentai (let's be honest) is so you can have a wank. It's just not what turns me on, so I've got 0 interest in watching it. I'll stick to femdom for that ;) I don't respect any form of anime more than any other form. You like what you like. It's all personal opinion. |
ladamesansmerciJul 8, 2017 5:45 AM
'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga |
Jul 8, 2017 5:48 AM
#95
I don't see the point in ecchi. Irrelevant story, boring characters and much fanservice, i think i've never seen even one good ecchi anime. Hentai >>>Ecchi |
Jul 8, 2017 6:00 AM
#96
awe man are there still a good amount of people on here who need cleansing looks like i haven't converted everyone yet |
Jul 8, 2017 6:07 AM
#97
Both ecchi and hentai are alright, just like Eroge hentai from Collaboration Works done a great job for both animations and characterizations in my eyes. Some don't like it, I understand, not against their opinions, well known story driven ecchi anime like Highschool DxD is pretty good, just don't know what to say, since I didn't watch the late sequels. Ecchi fanservice moments should only happen at the right time, unless it happens on serious events, then they execute it badly. |
Jul 8, 2017 9:06 AM
#98
Jul 8, 2017 9:11 AM
#99
Jul 8, 2017 9:41 AM
#100
zombie_pegasus said: I've noticed that a lot of ecchi fans hate hentai while hentai fans and many bystanders believe that hentai would be the more logical choice if you're just wanting to fap. I can get off to both equally. It's simple, if it's fucking hot and turns me on, then it's all good. From actual sex, to just ecchi, both are great Fap to whatever your dick feels about it, don't condemn other peoples dicks |
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