| For the last few seasons especially in 2015, I believe the Anime series are getting shorter. Most of them are 12 to 13 episodes and sometimes, it just feels unsatisfying. There are some shows work but there are some that when the Manga is longer, it's quite difficult to cram everything from the Manga onto a 12 or 13 episode Anime. It doesn't work. For example, I'm currently watching One Punch Man and it's an awesome series but I felt disappointed that it's just 12 episodes. That's it? Can they make it a little bit longer like 26 episodes or something? Another example, Charlotte started so good but the last 2 episodes had so many things and cramming it all in 2 episodes is too much and it's only 12 episodes. They could've made it a bit longer to make the series breathe a bit. Gangsta. has so much potential but the series is too short for its own good. I don't want to spoil things but whoever was following it, the show ended disappointing and what's even worse that the company that made it got bankrupt and that sucked. So, the potential chance in having a season 2 is very, very low. I believe in this day and age... many series makers are relying on being seasonal which is a good compromise depending on how long the series. It can be a bit annoying cutting off the series to get to the next season. When looking back at the season in which One Piece debuted back in 1999, you see series going on for 67 episodes, 40 episodes and so on, so forth. So, what do you think? Are a lot of Anime series too short for their own good? |
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| it's been like this for years... |
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silverwalls said: it's been like this for years... |
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| It's called advertising the source material Seriously how is this news? Also producing anime is not a charity service, everything is done in the way which gets the most money, that's about it |
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HaXXspetten said: It's called advertising the source material Seriously how is this news? Also producing anime is not a charity service, everything is done in the way which gets the most money, that's about it |
Lancehot said: Probably because it's more important to drive up sales and interest for the source material than for the contents of the anime itself to be as detailed as possible. Hence why so many adaptations are rushed. It's like a preview of the real thingNothing new. If anything I don't understand why so many anime productions still seem to struggle to tell a satisfying story in 4-5 hours of total runtime. |
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| As always, people who have no idea about the industry are trying to talk about the industry. simonitro said: For example, I'm currently watching One Punch Man and it's an awesome series but I felt disappointed that it's just 12 episodes. That's it? Can they make it a little bit longer like 26 episodes or something? No, they can't. The arc that will start after the end of the TV series is way too long to make it a 24 episode show and it's also not over yet so there's a risk of catching up to the source material if they continued. simonitro said: Another example, Charlotte started so good but the last 2 episodes had so many things and cramming it all in 2 episodes is too much and it's only 12 episodes. They could've made it a bit longer to make the series breathe a bit. Blame the shit writer. simonitro said: Gangsta. has so much potential but the series is too short for its own good. I don't want to spoil things but whoever was following it, the show ended disappointing and what's even worse that the company that made it got bankrupt and that sucked. So, the potential chance in having a season 2 is very, very low. Blame the production committee that decided to only make it a single cour anime. simonitro said: I believe in this day and age... many series makers are relying on being seasonal which is a good compromise depending on how long the series. It can be a bit annoying cutting off the series to get to the next season. When looking back at the season in which One Piece debuted back in 1999, you see series going on for 67 episodes, 40 episodes and so on, so forth. Shows like those still happen but they're usually made for kids. Look at Summer 2014 for example, it had shows like Dragon Collection, Hero Bank, Lady Jewelpet, Majin Bone, Marvel Disk Wars, Oreca Battle which all had over 50 episodes but every single one is targeted at a pretty young audience. simonitro said: So, what do you think? Are a lot of Anime series too short for their own good? Yes but that's an issue that existed for years, nothing new. Still, don't say that longer anime aren't being made anymore. |
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| There are long running series, but you don't watch them so tough luck. |
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| I'm sure budgets have a lot to do with this, as is usually the case. I doubt those in charge of funding want to give approval to a long-running show unless they are certain they will see a return on their investment. Making that decision on a quarterly basis seems like a smart way to go in an era of heavy competition and tight budgets. (I'm not too surprised that many of the current long-running series are made for kids. Often, when children like a concept, they can't get enough of it, and they don't get too concerned about the uneven quality or inconsistencies that usually plague long series.) That said, I generally prefer this situation. Many worthwhile concepts can be explored fully in a 12-episode series. When written competently, a 12-episode series can be clear and concise, with little wasted time. Tari Tari, for example, did everything it needed to do in 13 episodes, and it doesn't need more. Some shows need more time to explore their ideas; these days, they often get split into separate seasons and are only continued if the first season is financially successful. I've seen some that have clearly been cut off too soon (Aoi Hana, for example), but if the show doesn't bring in enough revenue, the studio can't be expected to continue with a losing proposition. Long series risk becoming repetitive or jumping the shark after the creators run out of ideas but decide to continue beating the concept to death. Gatchaman and Tokyo Mew Mew are entertaining enough, but they spend too much time with repetitive monster-of-the-week episodes that do little to advance the characters or the story; each of these could have been cut to about 24 episodes without losing anything. The worst offenders that I have seen, however, are American radio and television shows. It seems like any financially successful concept is dragged on for far too many episodes - sometimes 500 or more. The quality is often uneven from the beginning, and later seasons are usually disappointments or sometimes disastrous failures. Exceptions to this situation are very rare and typically arise only from a concept that is episodic in nature and can reinvent itself indefinitely. I'm grateful that anime seldom follows the American model. |
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Lancehot said: Nothing new. If anything I don't understand why so many anime productions still seem to struggle to tell a satisfying story in 4-5 hours of total runtime. This. If you're given few episodes, just tell a small story. Charlotte didn't have to cram so many ideas. If it worked with just one idea it could've been great. |
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| In general, I don't think short series (12 episodes, for example) are good, there is no time for making good character development and good transitions between arcs/subarcs/events. Sometimes the complexity of its plot doesn't adapt to this formula, this formula destroys the balance of its pace and/or reduces its richness. Anime becomes rushed and/or plain. For example, Rokka no Yuusha. Anime I think fit this formula are Makura no Danshi (episodes aren't connect to each other),Miss Monochrome The Animation because this anime was made to be plain (character, plot, mood...) and Natsume Yuujinchou (its Slice of Life is very well done). |
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absentminded said: silverwalls said: it's been like this for years... |
| Diamond no Ace is the new long runner. Anime is saved. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| They aren't. |
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| Hey, something getting 12-13 episodes these days feels like a stroke of luck compared to the recent spate of 10-11-episode series. |
FireEmblemIke24 said: How long is s2 gonna be? I hope it never ends.Diamond no Ace is the new long runner. Anime is saved. |
| It's too reliant on being seasonal, it's now split cours for many anime instead of 2 straight cours. |
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| It's called a budget. Also 1-cour shows have been around for many years. They're not "too seasonal", it's the way the TV scheduling works. I assume with most shows that are 1-cour, or split cours, they didn't have enough money to book two seasons worth of TV slots, or they weren't initially sure how long they'd even make the show. I like things being short. It makes them easier to finish, and if something's popular enough it'll get another short season. It's a good format. |
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DuskSunDawn said: In general, I don't think short series (12 episodes, for example) are good, there is no time for making good character development and good transitions between arcs/subarcs/events. Sometimes the complexity of its plot doesn't adapt to this formula, this formula destroys the balance of its pace and/or reduces its richness. Anime becomes rushed and/or plain. For example, Rokka no Yuusha. Anime I think fit this formula are Makura no Danshi (episodes aren't connect to each other),Miss Monochrome The Animation because this anime was made to be plain (character, plot, mood...) and Natsume Yuujinchou (its Slice of Life is very well done). That is true. However, I don't want to sound like I'm against short Anime series. Some of the shows work if they're meant for comedy or something simple but if the story is meant to be complicated with a lot of twists and turns and a lot of characters to develop, it will be rushed for a 12 or 13 episodes series and it wouldn't be too satisfying. |
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| Its safer to do one season shows now a days because it they flopped it costed less money and time to produce and if they became popular a potential season 2 can be in place if there is enough demand. But its been like this for years actually. |
| Is true that 1-cour series have been increasing, but that started getting more frequent at the time more companies started pop-up and when more series per season started to be made, around 1995. And it got really huge in 2006, but then regressed due to the bubble burst at that time, but it returned again in 2012 when the new bubble of anime started. Also most series done are aired in Tokyo MX Television, station that mainly does 1-cour seasonal series. From the 54 new series in this season that people take notice(in reality there are 61 new series), 21 of them gonna air in Tokyo MX and only 3 of them have 2-cours. |
| The season One Piece Debuted we got: 1999 Fall Season 1-cour -> 7 series(24%) 2-cours -> 16 series(55%) 3-cours -> 0 series(0%) 48-72 episodes, long running -> 4 series(14%) 73 or more episodes, long running -> 2 series(7%) Total -> 14 series This season: 2015 Fall Season Note: Some of this is just possible, mainly the long running that don't announce that they will in fact be long running. 1-cour -> 40 series(74%) 2-cours -> 9 series(17%) 3-cours -> 0 series(0%) 48-72 episodes, long running -> 4(7%) 73 or more episodes, long running -> 1(2%) Total -> 54 series The number of long running series didn't changed, 6 in the past and 5 right now. What really changed is that the 2-cours became to look like the 1-cour in the past(the least preferable of the seasonal options) and the 1-cour exploded. As you can guess |
| When an anime hits the mainstream its fuck the quality lets see how many seasons we can make and reap the rewards. An example of this is pokemon I mean it was long anyway but then they milked it dry money wise |
Feniksrises said: Currently watching "the story of saiunkoku"- it has 39 episodes in the first season. I really don't think it would be possible to make something like this anymore in the current climate. Yowamushi Pedal 1st season -> 38 episodes and it came in 2013! |
mayukachan said: FireEmblemIke24 said: How long is s2 gonna be? I hope it never ends.Diamond no Ace is the new long runner. Anime is saved. The manga for part 1 is finished I hear and there is a sequel that is publishing. Too much greatness with the characters. I don't think it will end anytime soon. |
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| the problem is not the duration of the series the problem is most of then do not have any closer and most of the threads of the story are started but are not finished so most of the times what you got is just a glorified advertisement for the source material |
Weeping_Oshino said: The reason for anime being short is that the creators have budgets and deadlines. Unless the they've been given sufficient funding and time (which they usually AREN'T given) they have to make it short like that. Truth. This pretty much sums it up. Some cases happens that they make anime just to promote the medium; such as manga, light novels or games. |
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| The hundred episode series are the minority. |
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DuskSunDawn said: Sometimes the complexity of its plot doesn't adapt to this formula, this formula destroys the balance of its pace and/or reduces its richness. Anime becomes rushed and/or plain. For example, Rokka no Yuusha. I don't think Rokka no Yuusha is a good example, it fits its time quite well (but would benefit from adapting more volumes in further seasons). I'd say Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou is a better one. Its ending is a barely comprehensible trainwreck, because there wasn't enough time for a proper ending. |
ReaperCreeper said: The hundred episode series are the minority. In what way? Because the number of timeslots reserved for Long running series is almost the same as the short series, 40. The big difference is that the short series end fast and are rapidly substituted by another short series, while long running series stay in the Timeslot for quite some time not getting a new series as frequently. In reality that is obviously implied in their names "long running" and "short running". If we assume all long running series run for 100 episodes, and so 2 years, and all short running for 12 episodes, a quarter of a year. Than for there to be the same number of Long Running as Short Running, the Long Running would need to have 8 times more timeslots(2 years have 8 quarters). Obviously that could only happen if there was only a short number of Short Running timeslots. Right now, there exist around 40 timeslots for Short Running series, so we would need 320 Timeslots for Long Running. In reality we have around 40 timeslots for Long Running so if the Short Running are the ones that adapt, we would need to have only 5 Short Running Timeslots. In the end of the day the quantity of content, episodes, provided by Long Running is approximately the same as for Short Running. Also in a given season you cant watch around the same amount of Long as Short. Without me thinking much, this are the hundred episode(or more) series that I remember airing right now: - Fairy Tail - Ace of Diamond - Gintama - Detective Conan - One Piece - Dragon Ball Super - World Trigger - Yu-Gi Oh Arc-V - Sazae-san - Chibi Maruko-chan - Doraemon - Crayon Shin-chan - Shin Atashinchi - Precure - Aikatsu - Anpanman ... |
ReaperCreeper said: The hundred episode series are the minority. Sounds like a good idea to me. |
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| Full adaptations are suuuuuper rare They are basically advertisements for source. Bakemonogatari is going for a full adaptation tho I think mayukachan said: absentminded said: |
j0x said: - an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million) - show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes its been like this for many years especially for late night anime shows, |
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silverwalls said: it's been like this for years... Since like the 2000s at least. |
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