| I noticed something really lame in Funimation's stream of the latest Shimoneta episode. In their version, the drool from a particularly sloppy kiss was edited out (or, maybe, with cooperation with JC Staff, that animation layer was turned off). Here's a comparison between their release, and the uncensored version that aired on AT-X in Japan. Mild spoilers. Funimation: AT-X: 3 questions: - Why? - Is content censored for pay subscribers as well? - How do you feel about this, and censorship in general? |
aikaflipJul 26, 2015 3:44 PM
aikaflip said: The same reason as Japan, to sell those disks.Why? |
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| This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Good example. Now please excuse me for a minute. *ehem |
#CHEXIT |
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy funimation whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I want to see drool |
ReaperCreeper said: aikaflip said: Why? The same reason as Japan, to sell those disks. Funimation has tried censoring Blu-rays though, but they backtracked after the anime community threw a collective fit. What I'm wondering is—if Funimation is so uptight with what Japan produces, why are they even in the anime industry? |
| Well, that drool is gross, so it's probably better that Funimation censored it. |
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aikaflip said: For da $$$ReaperCreeper said: The same reason as Japan, to sell those disks. Funimation has tried censoring Blu-rays though, but they backtracked after the anime community threw a collective fit. What I'm wondering is—if Funimation is so uptight with what Japan produces, why are they even in the anime industry? They know that there will always be some people out there who won't give a shit about censoring as long as they can have their Chinese cartoons dubbed |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
RainHeaven said: Schhh, quietFunimation has always been a shitty company. You don't want to cause a shit storm, do you? |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| It probably depends on which source they license, they stream the uncensored version of DxD now which is way more lewd than this scene. |
animefan006 said: Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy funimation whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I want to see drool You're missing the point. It's not that I need to see drool. I just don't like it when someone's work is edited to appease a handful of hypersensitive people. Now, if this is being done in cooperation with JC Staff to help sell uncensored Blu-ray, that's cool. But Funimation has tried to censor Blu-rays in the past, so I don't entirely trust them. |
aikaflip said: Well there's always been a quite a few raised eyebrows and finger wagging at stuff like lolis and whatnot. So it might come down to trying to grab a wider audience, but instead alienating the actual target audience.ReaperCreeper said: The same reason as Japan, to sell those disks. Funimation has tried censoring Blu-rays though, but they backtracked after the anime community threw a collective fit. What I'm wondering is—if Funimation is so uptight with what Japan produces, why are they even in the anime industry? |
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| As I've said in various places where this has popped up, that censorship is NOT Funimation's work. They just get the non AT-X broadcast version for their streams, because that's what the JP companies provide. Go on nyaa or wherever and find a non AT-X TV raw, and I guarantee it'll be just the same as the Funi stream. (Okay, there don't seem to be non AT-X raws out there for that show, but I did the same thing with Dragonar Academy back when it was airing, and it checked out.) Comic_Sans said: So how come my Rosario+Vampire fansubs have bats and light beams everywhere, but the Funimation DVDs are uncensored? Aside from the ancient DBZ dub which certain people still can't get over, pretty much anything censored that Funi's released recently has been because the Japanese didn't provide the right materials, like their initial release of Sankarea that used the TV version. They later went back and released the disc version after fan outcry, despite allegedly being such a shitty company. (Viz and Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, otoh...)This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff |
| censorship should not exist in anime |
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Comic_Sans said: This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff But they add unnecessary swear words.  |
Zalis said: As I've said in various places where this has popped up, that censorship is NOT Funimation's work. They just get the non AT-X broadcast version for their streams, because that's what the JP companies provide. Go on nyaa or wherever and find a non AT-X TV raw, and I guarantee it'll be just the same as the Funi stream. (Okay, there don't seem to be non AT-X raws out there for that show, but I did the same thing with Dragonar Academy back when it was airing, and it checked out.) Comic_Sans said: So how come my Rosario+Vampire fansubs have bats and light beams everywhere, but the Funimation DVDs are uncensored? Aside from the ancient DBZ dub which certain people still can't get over, pretty much anything censored that Funi's released recently has been because the Japanese didn't provide the right materials, like their initial release of Sankarea that used the TV version. They later went back and released the disc version after fan outcry, despite allegedly being such a shitty company. (Viz and Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, otoh...)This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff fan subs do less of the cultural censorship like fun has done it os dubs and ot some exnent subds too ChuckBronze said: Comic_Sans said: This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff But they add unnecessary swear words. ChuckBronze said: Comic_Sans said: This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff But they add unnecessary swear words. what about the addws sawres o dubs that were not there in the Japanese scirpt |
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DrCoppelius said: Censorship feels a bit childish to me. If one is old enough to watch a show that contains the sorts of scenes that can potentially be censored, one should be old enough to watch those scenes without censorship. I'm not certain I really understand the mindset behind censorship. Yeah. Take nipples, for instance. Male nipples, allowed. Female nipples, not allowed. The entire breast can be shown, but not the nipple. This makes zero sense. ReaperCreeper said: Well there's always been a quite a few raised eyebrows and finger wagging at stuff like lolis and whatnot. So it might come down to trying to grab a wider audience, but instead alienating the actual target audience. Exactly. A part of me still worries if Funimation has any influence in the way anime is produced, and if their presence will result in shows that take fewer creative risks for the sake of mainstream Western audiences. |
| I need a Shimoneta uncensored version T.T |
Veneficia said: Sakuto said: I need a Shimoneta uncensored version T.T I's got it >:3 I needs T.T!! Which site? |
| Lol, people pay for censored shows. |
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Zalis said: As I've said in various places where this has popped up, that censorship is NOT Funimation's work. They just get the non AT-X broadcast version for their streams, because that's what the JP companies provide. Go on nyaa or wherever and find a non AT-X TV raw, and I guarantee it'll be just the same as the Funi stream. (Okay, there don't seem to be non AT-X raws out there for that show, but I did the same thing with Dragonar Academy back when it was airing, and it checked out.) Comic_Sans said: So how come my Rosario+Vampire fansubs have bats and light beams everywhere, but the Funimation DVDs are uncensored? Aside from the ancient DBZ dub which certain people still can't get over, pretty much anything censored that Funi's released recently has been because the Japanese didn't provide the right materials, like their initial release of Sankarea that used the TV version. They later went back and released the disc version after fan outcry, despite allegedly being such a shitty company. (Viz and Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, otoh...)This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff Can people actually read this instead of professing FunI as the devil because they (allegedly) didn't show some fucking drool?!?! Let's think about it sensibly. There are way worse things in this show outside of that kiss, so it's weird for Funi to do so. Zalis explanation makes sense. |
aikaflip said: I'm sure they learned their lesson. I don't think many English releases are actually censored these days apart from the kiddy merchandise shows they show on Cartoon Network.ReaperCreeper said: Well there's always been a quite a few raised eyebrows and finger wagging at stuff like lolis and whatnot. So it might come down to trying to grab a wider audience, but instead alienating the actual target audience. Exactly. A part of me still worries if Funimation has any influence in the way anime is produced, and if their presence will result in shows that take fewer creative risks for the sake of mainstream Western audiences. |
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| Censorship is necessary. Not everybody wants to see excessively or gratuitiously lewd, hardcore or graphic scenes in a show just because they have the age to. It's only bad if it impedes on your viewing experience like in Tokyo Ghoul, but well, that's why we have BDs. |
| All kinds of censorship is terrible and I hate it. |
| From what I've understood AT-X is a special pay channel or something. Funimation gets the streams that are for the normal channels which is why they are different and censored. Paid subscribers do get uncensored episodes eventually though. I believe they get them when the domestic release gets close to coming out. |
Sakuto said: I need a Shimoneta uncensored version T.T need to rewatch that scene |
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Zalis said: There are exceptions that prove the rule, and exceptions that don't. This is one that doesn't.Then switch to a fan sub that doesn't add unnecessary swear words, problem solvedComic_Sans said: So how come my Rosario+Vampire fansubs have bats and light beams everywhere, but the Funimation DVDs are uncensored? Aside from the ancient DBZ dub which certain people still can't get over, pretty much anything censored that Funi's released recently has been because the Japanese didn't provide the right materials, like their initial release of Sankarea that used the TV version. They later went back and released the disc version after fan outcry, despite allegedly being such a shitty company. (Viz and Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan, otoh...)This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff |
Comic_SansJul 26, 2015 10:10 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
DrCoppelius said: Unrelated to anime, but this reminds me of a time they censored a magazine cover because the shirtless model on it looked like he might be mistaken for a woman. Gotta hide those might-be-boobs-at-first-glance! What a baffling mindset. That's so dumb. I wonder where this thinking came from. I know this word gets thrown around a lot, but I think this may be a genuine case of sexism, an attempt to control who can see what on a female figure (or a figure that may appear to be female). It's a less extreme variant of a burka. Fizix said: Nipples are censored to do with Japan's mixed up obscenity laws. It's got nothing to do with funimation. It's not just Japan that does this. A lot of countries, including 'Merica, have a big problem with showing female nipples. It's inconsistent and illogical. |
| You do know that it depends on what studio they are getting the episodes from right? Same with Crunchyroll they have no control over it. Unless the series is doing well for them then they will put down more money to get the rights to stream uncensored version. Or maybe like Japan they will save for BD release for the $$$. I can understand about the Vampire anime though cause soccer Moms and bible thumpers would cause a riot about it. xD Glad to see it got a unedited release though even if I will never touch or look at this series. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
ChuckBronze said: Comic_Sans said: This is why fansubs always will be better The fansubbers don't censor this kind of stuff But they add unnecessary swear words. lmao freezer this really takes me back |
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| Fansubbers : can range from 1-10 for subbing anime Official Subs: can range from 6-9.9 for subbing anime |
| so far this season (from what I watched) -fcked up the frame rate of Overlord ep.1 -screwed up the audio and timing also somehow put in audio from ep.4 into ep.3 of Akagami no Shirayuki-hime |
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| lel fansubs can't compete with funi cause if they do it themselves the subbed episode isn't coming out in time for example horriblesubs just rips stuff from funimation |
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Takuan_Soho said: Because Japan accepts sexual perversion in a way the west cannot. We are talking about a series that makes fun of Japan's puritanism. Also, the raws that Funimation gets are already censored. |
| All aboard the delusion train. |
| Recently I watched Freezing and Freezing Vibration on Netflix. Both licensed by Funimation. I watched Freezing dubbed and the nudity wasn't censored. Freezing Vibration however, only had the subbed version and yet all the nudity had been censored. |
| Funimation is trying to act pure as if they pray Jesus 24/7, tbh its so lame that they censor this type of BS. Shame on them, their staff who modifies the lewd scene first gets to enjoy the lewd scenes whereas we don't. Also guys if anyone can tell me other than Funimation is there any other way to watch uncensored version? |
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