Nihon Animator Mihonichi Episode 3 Discussion

Maibanez said:
Is anybody there that know the name of the song and the singer

Sol_Ou said:
Pretty meh but I really enjoyed the animation. I think I'll watch the rest of these shorts and then look up more work by studio khara.

Edit:Damn it. All they have is that eva crap. I dont even feel like watching the rest of these now. Well I read ep 5 is gundam related so i'll watch that.

willaraforever said:
Can someone name the songs featured in this episode? This short was brilliant.

User-san said:
Listen and be surprised! There is actually only one song but there's 3 parts. The name is "me!me!me! feat. daoko" and each part is referred to by name + part number. So the first part is "me!me!me! feat. daoko part 1", and so on.

caperock said:
Video reminds me of 30 Seconds To Mars - Hurricane.
Watch it.

This is an epidemic born of pulling away from society. The hurt of rejection is one of the most painful things people can experience. It is a pain so strong that it can make you not want to feel it again. Most people tend to draw-in their shells after a painful experience, and they lack the support to pull them out. Whereas the Otaku culture pretty much promises you won't feel that pain again. It's always there, and it's programmed to love you. It's not "real", but it's there.

What does the "real" have to offer? Well, look at the hate we (collectively) spew everyday. It has no empathy, no understanding, anything. Looking down at the comments, I see things like "I fucking hate weeaboos" and "People need to get a life." and "People who have these problems are autistic and need to be out the gene pool anyway." If that was my only exposure to "real" people (which for some of these people, it is) then even I would have a difficult time trying to justify why I would want to be part of them anyway.

You can say it's "not your problem" and if you discount the fact that since you are part of human society and what hurts one of us is going to hurt us all, then yeah, maybe it's "Not your problem." But to simply expect someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and fix themselves alone isn't going to help, because doing things "alone" is what got them there in the first place. Human interaction is a skill. It's a skill you can learn and lose throughout time, and if we don't give them the reason or opportunity, if we are going to stand back and judge ourselves superior just because we were lucky (yes, lucky) to have that supportive group to lift us back up when we fell, then why would they even want to get better? What reason would they have to be part of us?

And to end, this problem is only going to get worse. We've only had the technology to develop synthetic relationships for the past couple of decades, and it's only going to become a more powerful temptation for others. Right now, it's dating sims and digitally reproduced anime girls. Oculus Rift and Google Glass. Bam, she's right in the world with you. Advances in Artificial Intelligence, then Bam, replaces the need for conversation. The ability to program that into a robot that has "realistic parts", then bam, no need for any physical interaction. Having a holodeck where you can not only have multiple women of your dreams but also be anywhere, anyplace, anytime and doing anything, then the only reason anyone would do anything is so they can afford a new module for their holodeck. Then the human race ends with not a bang, but a whimper.

This is really good analysis of this clip by the way so I also wanted to share it with you guys but if it helps you can get more idea by watching this video and reading the comments underneath it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHIf2IFloAc

Bravo. You hit the nail on the head on this one and managed to elucidate far better than I could've hoped for. I'm sick of people brushing this video off as a typical softcore porn and failing to penetrate anything other than the surface level of content. However, I would've liked if you had examined the actual lyrics more (I don't know Japanese either but I found a video with subtitles in Spanish and I have a rough grasp on that and managed to vaguely decipher some of the lyrics), as I feel they shed light on another crucial plot point- HANACHAN (the dominatrix fantasy girl) is just Hana (the crying girl) attempting to emulate the male protagonist's fantasies.
In the first scene, we have the quintessential J-Pop lyrics- "I was thinking of you", "We were together during every moment, forever and forever," etc.; however, the final line before the mood shifts is rather bizarre, "I would like if you would show your pain to me." I interpreted that as the male protagonist acting dissatisfied in their relationship because Hana wasn't as attractive or perverse as his anime girls and Hana (who is the one singing the song and whose point of view is being expressed through the lyrics) wants to know how she can change to accomodate him better.
The song shifts to a more sensual, dirty feel and the lyrics change to match. Disturbing lines such as, "You told me I'm the sadness and pain in your life", "Do you believe that's not just a lie?", "I am the product of what you believe", "My heart will change to your will", and other cryptic phrases are included, and I thought of that as Hana slowly changing herself into HANACHAN, giving her previously innocent and naive voice a more sensual and suggestive tone and saying things that a dominatrix in some over the top porno likely would say to try to please the male protagonist, distorting herself into a perverse image of herself.
The next scene contained lots of Spanish words I couldnt translate. Some phrases I managed to sort of parse and are probably completely inaccurate are, "Show me a scene from your life, a product of your lies and indecision", "Extreme dissatisfaction, real life was too dangerous", Regret and loving me are the only things you can do nowadays," "I tell myself the same thing as a form of distraction", "I will sing for you, you are insufferable", "I will always remember your essence", "Thinking of you will only distance us more, now I can't stop thinking of you, to remember you." The final line of this part of the song is "I will be waiting for you." I interpreted this as Hana/HANACHAN breaking down and confronting the male protagonist, desperately attempting to convince him to quit his otaku lifestyle due to the damage it's causing their relationship and its impact on his life.
When the male protagonist equips the space armor and machine gun, the song begins to repeat two phrases over and over; I don't know what the last word of each is, but I know that they both say "Something is __" with an -ing verb at the end. I /think/ the lines are "something is falling away" and "something is suffocating" but I'm likely wrong. Then out of nowhere the phrase "You were a good girl" is said. I saw that part as Hana attempting to reconcile how she's changed for the male protagonis as he desperately attempts to ameliorate their bond and discard the fantasy.
Finally, in the scene with the bullets firing out of the girls' tits, the lyrics are, "What do you think you will do with your life? What do you think you will do to make a living? I don't care. You will always be a failure", "By your side, by your side, I was waiting for you, I loved you." The last lines of the song are strangely in English rather than Japanese; "Hey, hello, hey, look, hey, hello, look up to the sky... I'm not going anywhere." This verse shows Hana's reaction to the male protagonist's failure to break out of the cycle of addiction, no matter how vigilantly he fought back.
The lyrics really add another layer of this, displaying the crying girl's side of the story as an accompaniment to the main story, the male protagonist's. Keep in mind that these translations are likely somewhat inaccurate, so take this extra analysis with a grain of salt.
Great analysis, dude!
EDIT: Thanks to Google Translate I've compiled a rough translation of the whole song.
VERSE 1: Forever, forever
We were together during every moment
Forever, forever
I was thinking of you
Your company
Your pose
My feelings were divided into two, baby
In a moment like this
I would like if you would show me your pain

VERSE 2: You told me
That I'm deep inside of your being
That I am your hatred and sadness
What you created, is it not a lie?
I am what you have created, is this the true me?
My heart will change to your will
Narrow-minded or false memories

VERSE 3: Give me a life lesson, a product of your indecisive mind
Extreme dissatisfaction, real life was rife with danger
A direct hit, dividing into two the suffering of my days
Return to me, love me, what I have done...
If only I could erase it all
I'm going to fall deeper
Falling into unconsciousness
I will tell myself the same thing as a form of distraction
I will sing, I will sing for you, you are unbearable
You're not here, you disappear in the light
But I still remember your essence
Thinking of you will only distance us further
Since that day, since that moment, when I had that dream
A flower
Now I can't stop thinking about you
In order to remember, in order to remember you
I am far more of a crybaby than you would think
I will be waiting for you

VERSE 4:
Something is overflowing
Something is being superimposed
Something is overflowing
Something is being superimposed
She was a good girl
Something is overflowing
Something is being superimposed
She was...
Being superimposed

VERSE 5:
What do you think you will do with your life?
What do you think you will do to live?
It doesn't matter how you live, you will always be a failure
The fear that binds you, it accumulates, growing as it overflows you
The memories of those moments, they are overlapping
She was a good girl
Envy her, envy seems fun
I gave my best for you
What are you going to do with yourself?
I would like if you realized that they're just pieces of a broken mirror
By your side, by your side
I waited for you, I loved you
Hey, hello, hey, look
Hey, hello, look at the sky
I'm not going anywhere.

I feel like each verse switches between Hana and HANACHAN, with verse 1 being sung by Hana, verse 2 by HANACHAN, verse 3 by Hana and so on. HANACHAN being the male protagonist's deepest sexual urges incarnate, it'd make sense that verses 2 and 4 were sung by her, the former being her molding to the male protagonist's urges and the 4th mocking him about how the old Hana is gone. Hana, being the innocent and considerate girl she is, would sing verses 1, 3 and 5. The first verse is her inquiring how to become a better girlfriend for the protagonist, 3 is her confronting him about how this visage she is putting on is consuming her and how his lifestyle is detrimental to him and 5 is her realizing that due to the male protagonist's desires, they have both been brought to ruin.
It really is a tragedy.

NotJace said:
It was certainly interesting to say the least. Definitely a feast for the eyes in more than one way.