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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Great episode so close to the end now. |
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| Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome. |
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| Lol, WTF photoshoot |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
| i thought something would happen too. i didnt really understand this episode. i mean it looks like utenas found her resolve but did she understand what was going on with akio and anthy? that she was like a prisoner to her own life? did she remember her promise from when she was a kid? wtffff the whole "i poisoned your tea too" thing was kind of funny, ironic and confusing all at the same time |
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| this is some crazy Evangelion s**t. |
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| What the hell is going on? Is all this a dream, or what? And why are the other council members acting so strange. Utena almost has her own harem now. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| the whole poison scene is confusing, but it's kinda awesome! but, why did all of sudden Anthy decide to commit suicide?? |
| Hah, the poison thing was disturbing, but interesting. It's almost over.. |
| It's like I missed an entire episode. Things are moving too quickly... |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| I am so confused right now. The only thing I can pull from this episode is that Utena somehow freed Miki and Juri from their burdens, but it feels like a long shot. |
| Whelp, I'm just interested in how Utena is going to act when she recovers her memories and the truth is revealed. I'm disappointed that she didn't bring up the Akio x Anthy scenery she stumbled upon, though... |
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DaiTomodachi said: this is some crazy Evangelion s**t. Haha, I thought Evangelion was pretty straight-forward. I have no idea what is happening with Utena. |
| Did anybody attempt to make sense of the "shadow scene" in this episode? The two shadow girls were acting for a certain role in the play: and they kept saying "Chuu Chuu." Is this trying to tell us something about Chuu Chuu and his real identity? I get the feeling that something huge will be revealed about him in the next couple episodes. |
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| I'm basically just really lost now. Not sure if Anthy x Utena hate each other, or like each other, not sure when or if Utena will bring up the Anthy x Akio dynamic etc etc. I'll just watch till the end. Seems to be the only plan. |
| Man that scene with Utena, Mickey, Juri and Nanami was perfect. That jazz piece really made it complete. |
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Whalelala said: Man that scene with Utena, Mickey, Juri and Nanami was perfect. That jazz piece really made it complete. Agreed! Such a great group of people. I really enjoyed the poison bit. It wasn't confusing to me, but it sure was exciting. |
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| This episode was really touching... I was worried that Anthy and Utena would get in a bad fight and not be friends anymore. ;; |
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Whalelala said: Man that scene with Utena, Mickey, Juri and Nanami was perfect. That jazz piece really made it complete. Agreed, wonderful scene. It was great to see that Juri, Miki, and even Nanami have moved on from their problems and can even laugh about them. The dialogue between Utena and Anthy about poison was intriguing. I think they were just acknowledging the fact that they've hurt (poisoned) each other; despite this, they forgive each other and still wish to be together (which is why they say their "poisoned" food still tastes good). I did some quick research on Lucrezia Borgia. She's the sister of a dude named Cesare Borgia, who was greatly admired by Machiavelli and was often referenced in his book The Prince. Hmm... |
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| this episode has been the most confusing one for so far. so many questions |
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| So much hype building in this episode, the photo shoot scene was very funny, Tienjt said: The dialogue between Utena and Anthy about poison was intriguing. I think they were just acknowledging the fact that they've hurt (poisoned) each other; despite this, they forgive each other and still wish to be together (which is why they say their "poisoned" food still tastes good). Good insight, they really do care about each other and this episode proved it. |
| lol at all the modeling sessions. 4/5 |
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| Another interesting episode, though some parts were confusing. It was pretty odd that Anthy would attempt to commit suicide like that right after a scene where she wished to still be with Utena ten years in the future. The only explanation I can come up with is that Anthy wants Utena to be able to be together with Akio and forget about revolutionizing the world to save Anthy and be her prince. Pretty self-sacrificial, but it's clear with that ending that Utena has every intention of saving Anthy. I'm really loving this series so far. |
| Damn, i was expecting Utena to lose her shit over seeing Anthy and Akio,...Oh well. OH HAVE I MISSED YOU, NANAMI!!!! A few episodes ago i would have never said that lol, she really has grown on me. |
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| This was a kind of puzzling episode especially considering that the last one's ending seemed to promise a big confrontation this go round. It was kind of just more set up for the finale, with some really effective insight into how tormented Anthy is. But it had enough unique thought provoking moments, the kind that deliberately defy basic explanation the series specializes in I could hardly call it boring or a waste. Plus the ending and the fact we're now two episodes from the end seems to promise some serious conflict next time. Still I think a lot of people had clear ideas of what was going to happen here, like Utena just throwing down with Akio on the spot and the fact it kept the slow burn going is sure to be a controversial move. Particularly Utena's offscreen date with Akio which I didn't quite understand. My favorite part of the episode is how it gave us one last big scene (possibly our last) with each of the student council. I liked the kind of goofily yaoi tone of Touga and Saonji's interactions together. Especially the undertones that Saonji is a begrudging bottom, as he's consistently unhappy with his more passive position when the two are doing things together. As with last episode it's kind of amusing to see how the mighty have fallen. All they can do now is speculate on what Utena and Akio will do in the end. That and their conversations have me increasingly curious what answers we'll get about revolutionizing and the end of the world. Even more enjoyable was Utena's badminton match with the other three. It was nice to see her chummy with Jury and Miki who were never that bad, and again possibly for the last time. That Jury and Miki have come to admire Utena and even at least teasingly love her was surprisingly gooey for the show if still a little humorous. I ended up really liking Nanami near the end too, now that she's been broken down to size a little her personality wasn't quite as terrible. So she did care about Utena a little all this time, and their concession that they're both argumentative people was as sweet a moment as those two were going to get. I'm glad she's returned to being a normal student with some of her dignity intact she's grown a lot in this series. I'm palpably excited for the finale. I've always suspected the endgame would be Utena and Anthy falling in love (you'd have to be a little dense not to) but she's such a hard to read character how exactly this would play out was definitely not clear. But now that we've seen how emotionally damaged she is from Akio after that rooftop scene it seems like Utena's poised to save her from his clutches. Also the poison scene was really funny, but I have a really bad feeling about how that promise is going to turn out. |
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| I like the scene where Utena and Anthy poisoned each other. Nothing is as it seems. |
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| "Everyone is in Love With Utena: The Animation" I'm glad Juri moved on, at least. I hope they (Miki too) can stay in touch after graduation. Does Anthy feel pain only when she's outside the school or what? This was kinda confusing. |
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| These episodes are just so THICK with emotion. It's weird, like I keep thinking back of what I've seen in the past episodes, and it all seems distant. Things are changing rapidly. |
 Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
| One of my favorite parts is seeing Juri and Miki hang out with Utena. Even Nanami. It seems like they were friends for a long time, just casually talking to her. Kind of sad that it only happens near the end of the anime. Wonder if Anthy purposefully attempted suicide so Utena can go fight. |
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| Can't wait to finish this so I can google what it is that I watched. |
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| There was something really heartwarming about the badminton scene, as well as Utena and Anthy joking about poisoning each other's tea/cookies. Because it was normal, friendly behavior...something these kids haven't had much of. I was glad to see them find that happiness. At the same time, Utena has realized her feelings for Anthy. She doesn't love her romantically (but she doesn't have a problem with girl-on-girl love, as she awkwardly explained to Juri), but she's developed a special close friendship to where she wants to have her around for a long time. That's why she was so distraught to see Anthy's attempted suicide, and also why she's made the decision to go to the Castle...likely in the hopes that it will relieve Anthy's pain forever. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| It's all cool and nice that Utena and Anthy forgive each other (the bit about "poisoning" each other's food), but aren't they forgetting about someone? Someone who deceived and took advantage of them both? I don't understand the lack of searing rage. That is, you'd think that all that frustration would have to be directed towards something, at least in words if not action, and it couldn't just be swallowed. I complain so much about melodrama usually, but if there were any right time for it, it would be now. |
LeeTailorSep 12, 2017 2:04 AM
| Very close to end... shadow girls show somehow felt interesting this time. |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| So they don't hate each other, well maybe that's what the whole poisoned biscuits scene was about. I feel like this series has to be analyzed in detail to get the whole message. The last duel next episode, at last. And... the end of the World? |
| Around the gif~ "It's a big mistake to think you're the only one who can turn into a car" - Shiori Takatsuki |
| Honestly, who's gonna screw Akio? u_u' i can't believe things are gonna just be like that. And Nanami was just way too cute on this episode <3333 |
 SEIZON SENRYAKU: Hungry 100% of the time.Vzla-IT |
| Great set up episode for the final with many wonderful moments, even tho there were some parts I didn't fully understand. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I'd like to know how these characters feel, or what do they think about their situation... Seriously, I have no idea where this is going. |
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| Another great episode! The cantarella scene was nice, great metaphor for mutual love (this poison is supposed to increase sexual desire in small doses). Also, there's a great commentary from Ikuhara about it: EPISODE 37 - “The One Who Brings the World Revolution” Evidently, some theorize that engagement rings can be traced all the way back to ancient rome, in the days before Christ. At the time, of course, marriage wasn’t a product of love; it was a political affair in a society dominated by men. The concept of romantic love appeared on the historical stage later. Therefore, rings weren’t “proof of love” items; they only signified “proof of contract.” During the renaissance, military man Cesare Borgia was ablaze with the ambition to conquer Italy. One theory has it that the Borgia family assassinated its political enemies with a poison called cantarella to expand their territory of influence. I’ve known the world “cantarella” for some time, but I didn’t start to think of it as romantic until I read Ms. Saito’s manga The Flower Crown Madonna. You see, Cesare has a beautiful younger sister named Lucrezia. In this story, Lucrezia entered politically expedient marriages with men from various lands, and her husbands died of mysterious illnesses. She poisoned them with cantarella. Lucrezia loved Cesare as a woman loves a man. For her brother’s dream of world conquest , she married men she didn’t care for, and then she killed them. Lucrezia gave both body and soul out of love for her brother. What a romantic story! That’s what I thought on first reading. I also thought, “I want to take a shot at grappling with her emotions.” I think I had Lucrezia in the back of my mind as I shaped Anthy’s personality. The scene with Anthy trying to jump was...bizarre. I don't even know whether it's real or not. The city in the background looked like a huge earthquake (the end of the world). Also, do I even need to mention the amount of symbolism that's getting thrown at the face of the viewer? I believe it's the key to understanding the show properly. For instance, the scene with Utena taking her ring off seems to be extremely important - she's basically broken her promise to Dios because she failed to save her dignity by having sexual affairs with Akio and Touga, thus she's basically choosing "real people" over her miraculous Prince from childhood. Her decision is further emphasized by tearing the letter apart (this letter suggests Utena to come to the castle and meet Dios, as far as I understand). HOWEVER the letter is recreated by Anthy in the end, and Utena seems to have changed her mind - we see her wearing a ring again. Utena is going to meet with Dios. |
St0rmbladeJun 2, 2019 4:52 AM
| What's with the poisoning and suicide?! ;-; |
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| lmao the photoshoots are always fun to watch. The scene with Jury, Micky, Nanami and Utena was amazing. She felt so.. at peace. As if she finally made up her mind. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Okay... so two options: Or Utena is too dense to understand what Akio and Anthy were doing every night or she was seriously more concerned about Anthy stealing Akio from her rather than the whole incest/rape thing going on between them. Anyways, it seems Utena finally found her resolve and decided to embrace the "prince" role to the fullest in order to keep protecting Anthy. Regarding this, I also have to express my surprise at Utena and Anthy's relationship being "labeled" as the one of close friends rather than potential lovers. Of course, surprise in the sense of some people telling me Revolutionary Girl Utena is among the best yuri anime out there when in reality, the topic this show touches the least... is the one regarding girl-girl love. |
SouthRzVaMay 11, 2021 12:09 AM
| Guess I’m not the only one who’s confused |
n6ahDec 8, 2021 1:26 PM
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| Yea I didn't get this episode at all |
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