Altair: A Record of Battles
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Good episode. The amount of exposition was necessary to draw out the strategies between various nations. We also got various armies led by their factions marching to battle. Balaban Al-Kaplan really stood out as a commander of his squad imo. Mahmut's encounter with him felt like a clash of ideals among all this chaos. |
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| Mahmut came up with a smart battle plan. Even in the midst of defeat, Balaban Al-Kaplan still won't give up. He just kept on going. He had a nice moment with his brother before he died. |
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| Ye man that was how it is in the old times, family were your biggest enemies. Even last episode Mahmuto Bey said he'd like to evade direct relatives killing each other in this war but from some things you just can't escape. Good preview next week looks Mahmuto Bey is getting promoted back to Pasha. |
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| Wow my first time ever rating a 3/5 in this thread. I'm going to keep it short, sweet and sour. This episode was .....okay I loved the battles but however the director and composer literacy just Sh!tted (Mind the profanity) this moment: 1) No Mehter marching i mean come on composer really? 2)Removed expressionistic details like Mahmut's smugness that was supposed to reveal alot especially the alternation like fellow ottomankebab said Balaban beheading the yenicheri which mahmut was supposed to do that again key character taken away. 3)Last but not least which applies to all episode this might be sour but FIRE that camera dude. Literary all we ask is some 1-3 seconds of shot pause also with different angles even a little bit can show huge emotions displaying. Aside from that this episode realistically is between forum rating of 3.5 - 4 (Potentially 4). staff and director should really wise up instead of butchering Katou Kotono's best work. Now that my small skirmishes of rant is done for now, this episode was good especially that few emotional moments between Balaban and Bayezit have to say was really touchy, battle was decent but wish it was in-depth with more up-close hack and slash. |
Sevenman2345Sep 29, 2017 5:06 PM
DEUS VULT! Let's bring some gunpowder firearms   |
| Good episode. Mahmut's strategy worked and managed to defeat Balaban and his forces. |
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| Balaban's show off attitude comes back top bite him and his army falls to the flanking and his squad dies to to bullets. Family killing :'( |
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| by far the best episode. mahmut plan just completely destroyed balaban and BAM american toy time! |
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| Best episode by far, Mahamut was awesome and crushed the opponent. The ending was emotional and the animation was top notch. Let's hope that it starts to pick up now after the kinda slow start |
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| Man..Al-Kaplan was one character I actually really liked. One of the most touching scenes in the whole series so far and definitely the most sad ): |
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| Mahmut came up with a great plan and they were victorious against Balaban and his forces. I kind of wish Balaban didn't die, as he was pretty cool and I would have liked to see more of him later on. Oh well, at least his final scene was touching and nice to watch. OttomanKebab said: Furuhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png Any guesses as to why they completely changed the details of that scene? I see no point in changing it to Balaban, if Mahmut did that in the manga then just have him do it here too.... |
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thebrentinator24 said: Mahmut came up with a great plan and they were victorious against Balaban and his forces. I kind of wish Balaban didn't die, as he was pretty cool and I would have liked to see more of him later on. Oh well, at least his final scene was touching and nice to watch. OttomanKebab said: Furuhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png Any guesses as to why they completely changed the details of that scene? I see no point in changing it to Balaban, if Mahmut did that in the manga then just have him do it here too.... OMG the disrespect. Why did they change that! Well my guess is they wanna continue to show Mahmut as being a peace-loving sissy while making Balaban look stupid. Like I expected more from him, but nah he was tricked so easily and died a pathetic death (im salty.) |
| Probably the best episode so far. Mahmut's become really good, that was one intense battle. The enemy got completely obliterated. |
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| That was pretty good. When he shot him I couldn't help but think what a savage he was (in a good way). |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
OttomanKebab said: I'm honestly dumbfounded as to why they did this. Making him look like such a sissy.Furuhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png The quality of animation is really bad considering this is one of the most climactic moment in the series They also changed the Mahmut's smug banter with more serious talk http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000028.png |
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| After seeing the screenshots of the battle in the manga I cannot deny that parts of it were butchered. I would have liked to see Mahmut decapitating few Yenicheris at least. An important part of his character development is seeing him embrace the necessary violence of war, and I don't see why they would cut that. However, the battle itself, even with it's mediocre animation, was enjoyable thanks to the strategies involved. Overall a 3/5. |
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OttomanKebab said: No wonder people think Mahmut is gay, I guess they're trying to make Mahmut the pussy type rather than the badass type :/ . Yeah guess this probably isn't even the no.1 priority of MAPPA this season. Still a good show though, I hate how the guy directs the show though the camera angles are bad at times and like you mentioned the animation gets crappy sometimes as wellFuruhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png The quality of animation is really bad considering this is one of the most climactic moment in the series They also changed the Mahmut's smug banter with more serious talk http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000028.png |
EGOISTSep 30, 2017 5:11 AM
| After taking that bullet in his head he still fight for his pride , wow Love this episode , Kinda sad when Balbaba died |
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| I loved the episode. Especially the moments between Balaban and Beyazit. Probably the enemy forces will surrender now. |
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| There are a lot of derp faces and the animation is kinda meh but thanks to the good story and strategies, I was still able to enjoy it a lot. That last part with the brothers really got me. Takes a lot to kill your own brother.. |
| Really good episode which ended with a great victory for Mahmut against Balaban. The latter ones last moments made me feel sorry for him. |
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| Best episode so far. Liked how Mahmut has improved since the first episodes and how he was able to beat Balaban with such strategy. He is following a good path so far. I thought Balaban's death was going to be anticlimatic, but his last struggle against Beyazit was very well done and I actually felt sadness at his death, so nothing to complaint here. |
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Illyricus said: Same hereBest episode so far. Liked how Mahmut has improved since the first episodes and how he was able to beat Balaban with such strategy. He is following a good path so far. I thought Balaban's death was going to be anticlimatic, but his last struggle against Beyazit was very well done and I actually felt sadness at his death, so nothing to complaint here. OttomanKebab said: Damn....Why take that away from Mahmut =/ That's pretty disappointingFuruhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png The quality of animation is really bad considering this is one of the most climactic moment in the series They also changed the Mahmut's smug banter with more serious talk http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000028.png |
| This episode covers up to Chapter 33 in the manga btw, if anybody was wondering |
 Great episode! Looking forward for more. |
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| Now this is what I'm talking about! A battle between two armies with quick pacing and tactics! I do agree with the guys above about the animation being downgraded. I guess they're doing so to save budget because animating all of those troops must be one heck of a hassle. Aishe's hair is hard enough to manage. And yeah the camera angles were horrible. Keep it still and pan it slowly MAPPA! Kakegurui is done, so focus on this now! I did like the map that showed where all the armies were. I love it with anime does this! Mahmut's dust tactic...why does that remind me of Berserk? Once Balaban entered the choke point, he was done. Surrounded on all sides by Sark Yay soldiers. Like Lambs to the Slaughter. And Beyazit shooting Balaban straight in the head. I'm glad they didn't censor these scenes. This must be really heavy on Beyazit to kill his brother. So if Balaban is dead, who takes his place as sultan? Beyazit? Or wait...those other three armies that Zaganos is leading are still attacking the sultans' cities...Oh boy... I'm actually really hyped for the next episode. I want to hear Fatma's opinion on all of this. This is some serious family matters with Aishe, Beyazit, Balaban, and Fatma having to be involved... |
TarotistNov 14, 2017 7:02 AM
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| Nice episode! ...aaaannnd! you go down in history Balaban Al-Kaplan! hah! Mahamut really made sure that Acayip won't share the same fate as Tughril Village! The power of old-school rifles really changes the tide of battle! 5/5. |
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| The scene where Balaban got shot by his brother Beyazit was emtional, i thought he would last more on the series. Even if he was a baddie I still think he was cool. |
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| Definitely the best episode so far. The battle was epic and I love how they gave us an overarching view of what was going on by using the map and the chess pieces. Balaban was way too overconfident and was tricked far too easily but I guess that's the price of overconfidence. His death scene was pretty good, I was kinda surprised he had the strength to rush up to Beyazit and attempt to kill him despite being heavily wounded. He might have made a great commander had he not been blinded by the Empire's temporary but enticing offer of independence. OttomanKebab said: Furuhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png The quality of animation is really bad considering this is one of the most climactic moment in the series They also changed the Mahmut's smug banter with more serious talk http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000028.png Real shame they had to change this, I don't even understand why it was done. |
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| Very diring to see Balaban dead! He really was played out till the end! |
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| oooh,that ending was very nice...in a way,that i made me go like NOOO. Balaban was one of those bad guys who are just so charismatic that you can't help but like them anyway, he will be missed. And I would say more but considering the demographic watching this, I will keep it to myself,hah |
Blue_Pie_Ninja said: OttomanKebab said: Furuhashi has making things worse again.... He changed this: http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000022.png To this: https://vgy.me/icq9Xk.png The quality of animation is really bad considering this is one of the most climactic moment in the series They also changed the Mahmut's smug banter with more serious talk http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/08/13/s/read520a68f5afca2/img000028.png Wtf are people calling Mahmut a sissy for not decapitating a guy??? I think it's a pretty obvious reason to show Balaban killing his own men, because he is someone who always wants to win and having his men run away from the field of battle is the ultimate weakness. So of course he kills his own men. Mahmut is still badass too, because he managed to create this epic plan to wreck Balaban's forces, and it was successful, so why give him shit for it? If you don't decapitate people, you're gay /MAL logic And yeah, despite the changes(unfortunate) I thought Mahmut was badass in this episode. And quite intimidating, honestly. Great episode. Can't believe he actually killed his family member. That's rough. |
| OMG THAT WAS TRUE WAR RIGHT THERE !!! A+ ANIME !!! |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| Great episode! Really enjoyed this one. Mahmut made a good plan. The ending was kinda sad, even though that they were supposedly enemies. They always loved each other, no matter what. Hope now Mahmut can get his position back as a Pasha. |
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| The Beyazit and Balaban scene was wonderfully done.. I felt really sad after watching that scene. I like how with both the Kuluch Sultan's and Balaban's death there is this lingering feeling of whether or not they deserve to die... Have not read the manga but saw some posting some images from the manga and wow, Mahmut is supposed to be that...aggressive (for lack of a better word)?? He seemed so tame in the anime in comparison lol o__O |
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| I remember reading these chapters and fearing for what would happen. I really felt bad for Balaban, and then when Beyazit cried at the last moment, I cried so much T^T Growing up watching many Chinese historical TV shows, I've grown a love for these sort of historical strategic/mind-plotting stories. There's much more to understand than just a "let's save our land!" story. Not that I have anything against those series, but this kind of series really portray the sorrow, difficulties, and the amount of intelligence and decision-making that must be poured in. Sad to see that this and similar shows, like Arslan Senki, are so underrated and given low ratings. |
| 2/5 Years have passed and i'm still utterly disappointed with they taking out Mahmut "violent" moment (aka decapitation) and line "don't let a single soldier get away" because this was part of his development, it everd to show he was idealist but not a idiot who would hold himself in the middle of a battle. And they just fucked up the scene putting giving this to Balaban, what made completely senseless the scene right after i mean he decapitates his own soldier but then gets shocked about his army destroyed?... |
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| Quite a grueling and tragic end for Balaban. For as cruel and ambitious as he was, he wasn't wrong to seek self-determination and sovereignty for Mizrak. I imagine that's what made it all the harder for Beyazit, who wanted to continue to follow his brother to that end. Very heartrending to watch Balaban's final moments as he died in his brother's arms. |
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| Mahmut has really grown up, he is using his experience and knowledge in a proper manner |
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