Japan's Weekly Light Novel Rankings for Jul 6 - 12

so dose that mean there is hope for AW ?

Tv airing of the movie thaks to bakemononoko

7/3 summer wars 11.8
7/10 ookami kodomo 13.6
7/17 the girl who leapt thorough time

Right number is viewer ratings

Incidentally does anyone know why Summer Wars reappeared in the rankings for the first time since August 2012?

But I'm still pretty happy for Index and Yahari sales. I am really hoping for Index 3, it might give it a nice boost.

Nice to see Index on 1st, although i think their sales are getting worse by each volume.

Oregairu is still in the list as well~

But it's saddening that there is still no visible sales boost for Rokka

i'm pretty sure you were saying prologue before not chapter 1 figures? Anyway a slow build is fine and i like fantasy that has a slow build up and uses that slow pace to its advantage. My favorite genre is epic fantasy and the books I used as an example are very slow paced one has 3 very long prologues that slowly build up the world before you enter its heart and I really enjoyed it.

To me a slow build up in of itself isn't worth praise.

However when used skillfully it allows great characters time to interact with one another naturally and in a real way which results in good dialogue and fleshing out of the characters themselves if your doing it right. It also allows for the creation of an atmosphere and an opportunity to flesh out the world. When all these aspect are done well and combine things progress very naturally and make the story come to life alot more then they other wise would.


Rokka no Yuusha has a slow build up that it does not use well, to develop the aspects that can be felt during that slow build when done skillfully not for me anyway and for reasons I've stated previously.

As for saying "Also alot of people read books has nothing to do with good taste"I simply meant that reading alot of books doesn't suddenly make anyone superior when it comes to their opinion of what's good and what's not.

Anyway discussing this further like you said it's pointless so I'll just wait and to see how things pan out

Horizon 3 also seems possible with some recent promoting. They played some of the theme songs on the Anison radio and Sunrise is screening the first season as part of their festival in August.

Because like I said this isn't the place to do that. And because RnY plot is so out of the norm that I don't need to prove my point, it will be proven alone as the story progress. It's not even a question of being a fanboy or not. It's a fact that you haven't seen anything but the basic setting right now. So obviously you're going to say that it has nothign original. And jsut as obviously, you're going to change that opinion later. Why discuss what will obviously happen? I'm not telling you you will like it. I'm telling you that you won't be able to say what you just said here.


Ahahah of course I'll compare it whenever I want to whatever fantasy work I want. Because I know, and you don't know yet. And you're highly exagerating (who's the fanboy now?), most of them weren't that great at the first chapter. And you know what? The episode 1&2 were the first chapter here, figure.



You just killed any credibility you could have the moment you mentioned "good taste" as being an issue here. Taste is a matter of opinion, and I'm not asking you if my taste is good or not from your point of view. I'm not telling you that you will like RnY's plot. But the fact is, it won't change how impressive that plot is. Also, it starts slower than your usual fantasy story because it's heavily turned toward mystery/psychological and need therefore to build things far more than your usual fantasy setting and cannot start as fast as a result. So like I care that you think it could be more interesting from the start. If you're unable to bear a few chapter to build a story, as a reader, I can only see that as a failure.

Long story short, rather than starting to get angry, how about you just see by yourself why I'm saying all that? Because no amount of words from me is going to convince you anyway, you're just going to call this fanboyism again and again and reject it. The only thing that will convince you is seeing it by yourself and judging by yourself. Liking it or not is a matter of taste.
Hence why I didn't try to convince you with my previous post. That's both useless and uncalled for anyway. RnY don't need me to prove it's good to be good. If you're already watching it, as long as you keep watching it, you will logically come to your own conclusion. So you don't need me for this, either.
Hen,ce I'm pulling out of this discussion right now. Feel free to start the discussion again on my profile when you'll have seen the anime. Right now, I cannot even talk about it properly here, because I'm going to spoil people about the story. And that's definitely not my goal, nor my wish.

How so? Did I miss some announcements or hints?

Ok so "I don't know what I'm talking about" sorry but you gave me no reasons in your replay that addresses any of the issues I level instead just going on bout how much of a masterpiece it is it is without giving any worth while reason as to why you think I come from a place of ignorance when judging the first two episodes and the anime in general as merely average as for now

Also dont compare this to the best in modern fantasy sorry but The Stormlight Archive ,The Kingkiller Chronicle ,The Farseer Trilogy ,The First Law , The Lies of Locke Lamora , Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, etc. All of these from the very start even in the prologue stage were great reads the complex characters with fantastic dialogue and interactions shone through, the interesting and fantastically realized worlds and great pacing let you know you were in for something special.

Saying the prologue is not good because WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THE REAL STORY is rubbish also that does not excuse the bad dialogue and lack of noteworthy characters or anything noteworthy for that matter (apart from aztec setting which is just window dressing). It might very well get better later on but it doesn't change the fact that the prologue was not good and the initial story premise is insipid.

Also alot of people reads books has nothing to do with good taste.




Dude what are you on about my whole replay was to disagree with him saying that viewers of the anime were not buying the light novel because the anime was to out their for them to appreciate and get incentivised to go out and buy. I am aware that an unoriginal idea can produce something worth watching or or reading if the execution is great. The execution of this show so far? no, especially when compared with all the other fantasy I've watched and read.

Original =/= go-----

God damn, when will people get this?

We can't really start a discussion about it in that place so I'll try to keep it at one post for answer but anyway... All I'll say is that you don't know what you're talking about.
There's a reason I'm hoping for the sales o pick up in a few weeks. RnY's story is the best fantasy plot I know from japanese media (including all manga, Ln, novels I've read) and the one with the most originality on top of this. Even includin the huge amount of fantasy book I've read from western authors (and I'm a bookworm, so read quite a bit), it would still be the most original, and enter easily in a top 5 of the best plot there is. The first two episodes aren't the story, those are the SETTING. The story is really starting when all the hero gathers, before that, it's nothing than a prelude to the series. Yes, the setting isn't original. Not like your run of a mill anime/manga that focus their effort to have an "original" setting but don't do anything good with it, this one starts from a very classic Heroic Fantasy setting (can't be more classic than that actually) to go into a completely original direction half the first book in.
Remember, the adaptation is really being faithful by taking the time to give us everything needed. In an usual LN adaptation, next episode would be already the end of the first volume, or episode 4 at best (meaning, we would already be with 2 episodes half the way through the first volume). It will still take 2 more episodes to reach half of it, maybe a part of the 5th as well. That's why while usually you'll have the plot really started by now, you don't really have more than the setting.

Just follow the episodes. you'll see why the fans like this series.

Look I know that it's not a harem ,ecchi or highschool show but it's also not a bastion of originality by any means either from what I've seen so far in the anime anyway. It's a very cut and dry fantasy light novel with a prophecy and chosen one's and a big bad demon lord and his EVIL minions. Then there's the characters a sheltered and most of the time carefree princess and excitable headstrong and overly confident main character , an emotionless violent monotone loli and a stoic dutiful knight they fit very neatly into archetypes as of now. Then there's the dialogue when its info dumping its bad and when its not its very average and pretty vapid.

There are only two things that have stood out so far from watching the anime the first is the animation both in a good way in the first episode and in a bad way in the second and then their's the aztec setting which is not from the light novels from what I have heard.

It's also not like I'm against slower paced shows in fact i'm a big fan of them when done right Saraiya Goyou and mushishi are two of my favorite Rokka isnt bad but it's certainly not that good either.

^ A Cha... A Chamo avatar on MAL already O_o.

So still not Rokka, as expected. I hope it'll appear in like 2-3 week though :/. I know that work isn't fit for the usual anime audience in japan, I mean there's no ecchi, no harem, no shool life, not a lot of fights in the beginning and no explosion for now, no loli (yet) and no brocon little sister (this one is going to hurt the sale badly), no tsundere character either, no power of friendship and no stupid power up for the M,C but still. Come on anime watcher, you can buy this.

No second week for Youjo Senki, as expected as well.

Glad to see Yahari Oregairu still in top 10.

Eh. With every passing Dengeki Festival it becomes less and less likely. I'm not even entertaining the possibility until after Durarara!! and Heavy Object finish airing. Even then, I just know Mahouka 2 or Hataraku Maousama 2 will be announced instead.

D-don't be too pessimistic.
It'll come soon... very soon, I hope. Maybe. :/

Still YAY! for oregairu. :D

I got curious on summer wars, i'll put that in my ptw. :)

OH MY GOD YES The era of lolis finally ending is such a good news ♥

Toaru Majutsu no Index season 3 anime when? /joke it may never happen at this point