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Here are the weekly light novel rankings for July 6th - 12th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1. 56,549 *56,549 Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Vol.13
*2. 28,985 *79,378 Bakemono no Ko (Kadokawa Bunko)
*3. 20,548 *57,847 Naruto Hiden Vol.6
*4. 13,333 *13,333 Ro-Kyu-Bu! Vol.15
*5. 12,999 *12,999 Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
*6. 12,567 *34,735 Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu: "Ima Suki ni Naru."
*7. 11,652 *23,633 Bakemono no Ko (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
*8. 10,778 157,833 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Vol.11
*9. *6,527 523,677 Summer Wars (Kadokawa Bunko)
10. *5,654 **5,654 Tantei Team KZ Jiken Note: "Tanabata Hime wa Shitteiru"

11. *5,254 *19,782 Shinmai Maou no Testament Vol.8
12. *5,188 *70,991 Date A Live Vol.12
13. *4,964 120,073 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Vol.8
14. *4,391 *16,757 Shounen Onmyouji: "Kuchiki no Hizumi ni Muretsudoe"
15. *4,276 **4,276 World End Economica Vol.3
16. *4,003 *40,728 Overlord Vol.1
17. *3,904 *29,375 Overlord Vol.9
18. *3,778 *14,281 Aooni: Onryou-hen
19. *3,515 189,959 Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu Vol.1
20. *3,327 *45,663 Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Vol.1

21. *3,177 **9,141 Haikyuu!! "Owari to Hajimari" Gekijouban Soushuuhen Part 1
22. *3,150 *80,329 Naruto Hiden Vol.5

Separated by Specific Ranking

Bunko
*1. 56,549 *56,549 Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Vol.13
*4. 28,985 *79,378 Bakemono no Ko (Kadokawa Bunko)
10. 13,333 *13,333 Ro-Kyu-Bu! Vol.15
12. 12,999 *12,999 Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
13. 12,567 *34,735 Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu: "Ima Suki ni Naru."
15. 10,778 157,833 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Vol.11
29. *6,527 523,677 Summer Wars (Kadokawa Bunko)
37. *5,254 *19,782 Shinmai Maou no Testament Vol.8
38. *5,188 *70,991 Date A Live Vol.12
42. *4,964 120,073 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Vol.8

49. *4,391 *16,757 Shounen Onmyouji: "Kuchiki no Hizumi ni Muretsudoe"
50. *4,276 **4,276 World End Economica Vol.3
(cut-off 4,276)


Book
*5. 20,548 *57,847 Naruto Hiden Vol.6
10. 11,652 *23,633 Bakemono no Ko (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
29. *5,654 **5,654 Tantei Team KZ Jiken Note: "Tanabata Hime wa Shitteiru"
(cut-off 4,370)


Literature Books Genre (duplicates removed)
*8. *4,003 *40,728 Overlord Vol.1
10. *3,904 *29,375 Overlord Vol.9
11. *3,778 *14,281 Aooni: Onryou-hen
15. *3,177 **9,141 Haikyuu!! "Owari to Hajimari" Gekijouban Soushuuhen Part 1
16. *3,150 *80,329 Naruto Hiden Vol.5
(cut-off 2,906)

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Jul 15, 2015 2:24 PM

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Seems like Overlord and GATE are already seeing some boosts.
 
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Yes out of all the series to start getting volume boosts from the summer titles both Gate and Overlord are getting them and are both my number 1 and number 2 titles respectively :D very good sign.
 
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Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu vol 1 shows up again, for the first time since the half year rankings, and with an extra 15k sales gained in that time - about 35k sales gained since it was last in the weekly rankings in March.

Gate and Overlord make appearances for their first volumes thanks to their anime boosts.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

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Jul 15, 2015 2:32 PM

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*5. 12,999 *12,999 Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
12. 12,999 *12,999 Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
English translation when???
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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@Comic_Sans I hate to insult you on forums but you are just a troll so just go kill yourself already bitch
 
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Jul 15, 2015 2:34 PM

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POS rankings for the week for all light novels with anime airing this season:
Gate:
130位 ゲート1 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
155位 ゲート1 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
250位 ゲート2 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
260位 ゲート2 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
365位 ゲート3 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉
367位 ゲート3 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉

Overlord:
179位 オーバーロード9 破軍の魔法詠唱者
145位 オーバーロード1 不死者の王
237位 オーバーロード2 漆黒の戦士
350位 オーバーロード3 鮮血の戦乙女

ShimoSeka:
238位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界
473位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界2

Rokka no Yuusha
271位 六花の勇者

Kuusen Madoushi:
380位 空戦魔導士候補生の教官1


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Bunko rankings: (same data source, but contain lower sales figures as non-bunko are not included)
Modified by kuuderes_shadow, Jul 16, 2015 8:53 AM
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
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Jul 15, 2015 2:43 PM

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When was the last time Misaka is in focus again?
 
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I think they already have a 2 cour in mind for overlord considering up till vol 6 is seen in the op song.
They are just waiting to see the LN sales.
Hope this meets their expectations.

The boost will definitely stay relevant as the anime goes on.

16. *4,003 *40,728 Overlord Vol.1
17. *3,904 *29,375 Overlord Vol.9
 
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*4. 13,333 *13,333 Ro-Kyu-Bu! Vol.15

Really wish someone would translate this or license it, 0% chance of the latter I know. Might as well order the volumes now it's finished. Ah well, just gonna rewatch both series again. Wonder what the author will write next (if he choses to write something). If he does hope he sticks with the loli goodness.

11. *5,254 *19,782 Shinmai Maou no Testament Vol.8
12. *5,188 *70,991 Date A Live Vol.12

Lovely, both still going strong. Shinmai should pass 30K next week when taking into account the LE sales.
 
Jul 15, 2015 3:05 PM

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kuuderes_shadow said:
POS rankings for the week for all light novels with anime airing this season:
Gate:
130位 ゲート1 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
155位 ゲート1 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
250位 ゲート2 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
260位 ゲート2 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
365位 ゲート3 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉
367位 ゲート3 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉

Overlord:
179位 オーバーロード9 破軍の魔法詠唱者
145位 オーバーロード1 不死者の王
237位 オーバーロード2 漆黒の戦士
350位 オーバーロード3 鮮血の戦乙女

ShimoSeka:
238位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界
473位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界2

Rokka no Yuusha
271位 六花の勇者

Kuusen Madoushi:
380位 空戦魔導士候補生の教官1


Why does GATE have doubles for each volume? is that because of the original and than the reprint versions respectively?
 
Jul 15, 2015 3:27 PM

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kuuderes_shadow said:
POS rankings for the week for all light novels with anime airing this season:
Gate:
130位 ゲート1 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
155位 ゲート1 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
250位 ゲート2 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
260位 ゲート2 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
365位 ゲート3 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉
367位 ゲート3 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉

Overlord:
179位 オーバーロード9 破軍の魔法詠唱者
145位 オーバーロード1 不死者の王
237位 オーバーロード2 漆黒の戦士
350位 オーバーロード3 鮮血の戦乙女

ShimoSeka:
238位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界
473位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界2

Rokka no Yuusha
271位 六花の勇者

Kuusen Madoushi:
380位 空戦魔導士候補生の教官1
Is that Rokka no Yuusha one the v1-5 set?
 
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Nice to see that Oregairu is so insanely high.
 
Jul 15, 2015 4:03 PM

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Index domination.

Over Lord also slowly climbing its way up too.
 
Jul 15, 2015 4:07 PM
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Hopefully Izaya sells well. I have a feeling DRRR low novel sales compared to past years spurred this Izaya-centric novel to get the fujos.
 
Jul 15, 2015 4:09 PM

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Tch......

No Rokka no Yuusha boost yet.
yet
yet
yet
yet
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Jul 15, 2015 5:32 PM
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After Index's flop on vol. 12, it's glad to see 13 dominating.
 
Jul 15, 2015 5:38 PM

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kuuderes_shadow said:
POS rankings for the week for all light novels with anime airing this season:
Gate:
130位 ゲート1 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
155位 ゲート1 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
250位 ゲート2 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
260位 ゲート2 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
365位 ゲート3 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉
367位 ゲート3 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉

Overlord:
179位 オーバーロード9 破軍の魔法詠唱者
145位 オーバーロード1 不死者の王
237位 オーバーロード2 漆黒の戦士
350位 オーバーロード3 鮮血の戦乙女

ShimoSeka:
238位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界
473位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界2

Rokka no Yuusha
271位 六花の勇者

Kuusen Madoushi:
380位 空戦魔導士候補生の教官1


Why does GATE have doubles for each volume? is that because of the original and than the reprint versions respectively?

That's not double. There's a 1 上 (1A) and a 1 下 (1B) and so on.
1下 is the second volume published, 2上 is the third volume, 2下 is the 4th and so on.
 
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3. 20,548 *57,847 Naruto Hiden Vol.6
8. 10,778 157,833 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Vol.11
22. *3,150 *80,329 Naruto Hiden Vol.5

All that matters to me
 
Jul 15, 2015 8:01 PM

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The end of Ro-Kyu-Bu means the end of the era of lolis, and the series is wrapped up and the second season didn't sell well so no season 3.


 
Jul 15, 2015 8:28 PM

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World End Economica anime never.
 
Jul 15, 2015 8:30 PM
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DanMachi and Overlord should be MUCH higher. And awwww yeeaahh Ro-Kyu-Bu in top 5. Sweet. I want more Ro-Kyu Bu tho :'(
 
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Paulo27 said:
kuuderes_shadow said:
POS rankings for the week for all light novels with anime airing this season:
Gate:
130位 ゲート1 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
155位 ゲート1 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈接触編〉
250位 ゲート2 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
260位 ゲート2 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈炎龍編〉
365位 ゲート3 〈下〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉
367位 ゲート3 〈上〉 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 〈動乱編〉

Overlord:
179位 オーバーロード9 破軍の魔法詠唱者
145位 オーバーロード1 不死者の王
237位 オーバーロード2 漆黒の戦士
350位 オーバーロード3 鮮血の戦乙女

ShimoSeka:
238位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界
473位 下ネタという概念が存在しない退屈な世界2

Rokka no Yuusha
271位 六花の勇者

Kuusen Madoushi:
380位 空戦魔導士候補生の教官1
Is that Rokka no Yuusha one the v1-5 set?


No, it's volume 1. There's no official 1-5 set, that's just some retailers giving you a convenient way to buy all the volumes together. Anyone who bought it would count as a sale for all five volumes separately.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
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Good to see Yahari Ore no Seishun doing well. Hopefully there will be a sequel for the anime again. Totally loving the story that I began reading the LN.
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Toaru Majutsu no Index season 3 anime when? /joke it may never happen at this point
 
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The end of Ro-Kyu-Bu means the end of the era of lolis, and the series is wrapped up and the second season didn't sell well so no season 3.


OH MY GOD YES The era of lolis finally ending is such a good news ♥
 
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Still YAY! for oregairu. :D

I got curious on summer wars, i'll put that in my ptw. :)
 
Jul 16, 2015 5:46 AM
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Toaru Majutsu no Index season 3 anime when? /joke it may never happen at this point

D-don't be too pessimistic.
It'll come soon... very soon, I hope. Maybe. :/
 
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Toaru Majutsu no Index season 3 anime when? /joke it may never happen at this point

D-don't be too pessimistic.
It'll come soon... very soon, I hope. Maybe. :/




Eh. With every passing Dengeki Festival it becomes less and less likely. I'm not even entertaining the possibility until after Durarara!! and Heavy Object finish airing. Even then, I just know Mahouka 2 or Hataraku Maousama 2 will be announced instead.
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Glad to see Yahari Oregairu still in top 10.



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^ A Cha... A Chamo avatar on MAL already O_o.

So still not Rokka, as expected. I hope it'll appear in like 2-3 week though :/. I know that work isn't fit for the usual anime audience in japan, I mean there's no ecchi, no harem, no shool life, not a lot of fights in the beginning and no explosion for now, no loli (yet) and no brocon little sister (this one is going to hurt the sale badly), no tsundere character either, no power of friendship and no stupid power up for the M,C but still. Come on anime watcher, you can buy this.

No second week for Youjo Senki, as expected as well.
 
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^ A Cha... A Chamo avatar on MAL already O_o.

So still not Rokka, as expected. I hope it'll appear in like 2-3 week though :/. I know that work isn't fit for the usual anime audience in japan, I mean there's no ecchi, no harem, no shool life, not a lot of fights in the beginning and no explosion for now, no loli (yet) and no brocon little sister (this one is going to hurt the sale badly), no tsundere character either, no power of friendship and no stupid power up for the M,C but still. Come on anime watcher, you can buy this.

No second week for Youjo Senki, as expected as well.


Look I know that it's not a harem ,ecchi or highschool show but it's also not a bastion of originality by any means either from what I've seen so far in the anime anyway. It's a very cut and dry fantasy light novel with a prophecy and chosen one's and a big bad demon lord and his EVIL minions. Then there's the characters a sheltered and most of the time carefree princess and excitable headstrong and overly confident main character , an emotionless violent monotone loli and a stoic dutiful knight they fit very neatly into archetypes as of now. Then there's the dialogue when its info dumping its bad and when its not its very average and pretty vapid.

There are only two things that have stood out so far from watching the anime the first is the animation both in a good way in the first episode and in a bad way in the second and then their's the aztec setting which is not from the light novels from what I have heard.

It's also not like I'm against slower paced shows in fact i'm a big fan of them when done right Saraiya Goyou and mushishi are two of my favorite Rokka isnt bad but it's certainly not that good either.
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Zefyris said:
^ A Cha... A Chamo avatar on MAL already O_o.

So still not Rokka, as expected. I hope it'll appear in like 2-3 week though :/. I know that work isn't fit for the usual anime audience in japan, I mean there's no ecchi, no harem, no shool life, not a lot of fights in the beginning and no explosion for now, no loli (yet) and no brocon little sister (this one is going to hurt the sale badly), no tsundere character either, no power of friendship and no stupid power up for the M,C but still. Come on anime watcher, you can buy this.
Look I know that it's not a harem ,ecchi or highschool show but it's also not a bastion of originality by any means either from what I've seen so far in the anime anyway. It's a very cut and dry fantasy light novel with a prophecy and chosen one's and a big bad demon lord and his EVIL minions. Then there's the characters a sheltered and most of the time carefree princess and excitable headstrong and overly confident main character , an emotionless violent monotone loli and a stoic dutiful knight they fit very neatly into archetypes as of now. Then there's the dialogue when its info dumping its bad and when its not its very average and pretty vapid.

There are only two things that have stood out so far from watching the anime the first is the animation both in a good way in the first episode and in a bad way in the second and then their's the aztec setting which is not from the light novels from what I have heard.

It's also not like I'm against slower paced shows in fact i'm a big fan of them when done right Saraiya Goyou and mushishi are two of my favorite Rokka isnt bad but it's certainly not that good either.

We can't really start a discussion about it in that place so I'll try to keep it at one post for answer but anyway... All I'll say is that you don't know what you're talking about.
There's a reason I'm hoping for the sales o pick up in a few weeks. RnY's story is the best fantasy plot I know from japanese media (including all manga, Ln, novels I've read) and the one with the most originality on top of this. Even includin the huge amount of fantasy book I've read from western authors (and I'm a bookworm, so read quite a bit), it would still be the most original, and enter easily in a top 5 of the best plot there is. The first two episodes aren't the story, those are the SETTING. The story is really starting when all the hero gathers, before that, it's nothing than a prelude to the series. Yes, the setting isn't original. Not like your run of a mill anime/manga that focus their effort to have an "original" setting but don't do anything good with it, this one starts from a very classic Heroic Fantasy setting (can't be more classic than that actually) to go into a completely original direction half the first book in.
Remember, the adaptation is really being faithful by taking the time to give us everything needed. In an usual LN adaptation, next episode would be already the end of the first volume, or episode 4 at best (meaning, we would already be with 2 episodes half the way through the first volume). It will still take 2 more episodes to reach half of it, maybe a part of the 5th as well. That's why while usually you'll have the plot really started by now, you don't really have more than the setting.

Just follow the episodes. you'll see why the fans like this series.
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Original =/= go-----

God damn, when will people get this?
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ikramit said:
Look I know that it's not a harem ,ecchi or highschool show but it's also not a bastion of originality by any means either from what I've seen so far in the anime anyway. It's a very cut and dry fantasy light novel with a prophecy and chosen one's and a big bad demon lord and his EVIL minions. Then there's the characters a sheltered and most of the time carefree princess and excitable headstrong and overly confident main character , an emotionless violent monotone loli and a stoic dutiful knight they fit very neatly into archetypes as of now. Then there's the dialogue when its info dumping its bad and when its not its very average and pretty vapid.

There are only two things that have stood out so far from watching the anime the first is the animation both in a good way in the first episode and in a bad way in the second and then their's the aztec setting which is not from the light novels from what I have heard.

It's also not like I'm against slower paced shows in fact i'm a big fan of them when done right Saraiya Goyou and mushishi are two of my favorite Rokka isnt bad but it's certainly not that good either.

We can't really start a discussion about it in that place so I'll try to keep it at one post for answer but anyway... All I'll say is that you don't know what you're talking about.
There's a reason I'm hoping for the sales o pick up in a few weeks. RnY's story is the best fantasy plot I know from japanese media (including all manga, Ln, novels I've read) and the one with the most originality on top of this. Even includin the huge amount of fantasy book I've read from western authors (and I'm a bookworm, so read quite a bit), it would still be the most original, and enter easily in a top 5 of the best plot there is. The first two episodes aren't the story, those are the SETTING. The story is really starting when all the hero gathers, before that, it's nothing than a prelude to the series. Yes, the setting isn't original. Not like your run of a mill anime/manga that focus their effort to have an "original" setting but don't do anything good with it, this one starts from a very classic Heroic Fantasy setting (can't be more classic than that actually) to go into a completely original direction half the first book in.
Remember, the adaptation is really being faithful by taking the time to give us everything needed. In an usual LN adaptation, next episode would be already the end of the first volume, or episode 4 at best (meaning, we would already be with 2 episodes half the way through the first volume). It will still take 2 more episodes to reach half of it, maybe a part of the 5th as well. That's why while usually you'll have the plot really started by now, you don't really have more than the setting.

Just follow the episodes. you'll see why the fans like this series.


Ok so "I don't know what I'm talking about" sorry but you gave me no reasons in your replay that addresses any of the issues I level instead just going on bout how much of a masterpiece it is it is without giving any worth while reason as to why you think I come from a place of ignorance when judging the first two episodes and the anime in general as merely average as for now

Also dont compare this to the best in modern fantasy sorry but The Stormlight Archive ,The Kingkiller Chronicle ,The Farseer Trilogy ,The First Law , The Lies of Locke Lamora , Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, etc. All of these from the very start even in the prologue stage were great reads the complex characters with fantastic dialogue and interactions shone through, the interesting and fantastically realized worlds and great pacing let you know you were in for something special.

Saying the prologue is not good because WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THE REAL STORY is rubbish also that does not excuse the bad dialogue and lack of noteworthy characters or anything noteworthy for that matter (apart from aztec setting which is just window dressing). It might very well get better later on but it doesn't change the fact that the prologue was not good and the initial story premise is insipid.

Also alot of people reads books has nothing to do with good taste.

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Original =/= go-----

God damn, when will people get this?



Dude what are you on about my whole replay was to disagree with him saying that viewers of the anime were not buying the light novel because the anime was to out their for them to appreciate and get incentivised to go out and buy. I am aware that an unoriginal idea can produce something worth watching or or reading if the execution is great. The execution of this show so far? no, especially when compared with all the other fantasy I've watched and read.
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Even then, I just know Mahouka 2 or Hataraku Maousama 2 will be announced instead.

How so? Did I miss some announcements or hints?
 
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ikramit said:
Ok so "I don't know what I'm talking about" sorry but you gave me no reasons in your replay that address any of the issues I level instead going on a fanatic rant about how much of a masterpiece it is it is without giving any worth worth while reason as to why you think I come from a place of of ignorance.

Because like I said this isn't the place to do that. And because RnY plot is so out of the norm that I don't need to prove my point, it will be proven alone as the story progress. It's not even a question of being a fanboy or not. It's a fact that you haven't seen anything but the basic setting right now. So obviously you're going to say that it has nothign original. And jsut as obviously, you're going to change that opinion later. Why discuss what will obviously happen? I'm not telling you you will like it. I'm telling you that you won't be able to say what you just said here.

ikramit said:
Also dont compare this to the best in modern fantasy sorry but The Stormlight Archive ,The Kingkiller Chronicle ,TheFarseer Trilogy ,The First Law , The Lies of Locke Lamora and Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, etc. All of these from the very start even in the prologue stage were great reads the complex characters with fantastic dialogue and interactions shone through, the interesting and fantastically realized worlds and great pacing let you know you were in for something special.

Ahahah of course I'll compare it whenever I want to whatever fantasy work I want. Because I know, and you don't know yet. And you're highly exagerating (who's the fanboy now?), most of them weren't that great at the first chapter. And you know what? The episode 1&2 were the first chapter here, figure.


Also alot of people reads books has nothing to do with good taste.

You just killed any credibility you could have the moment you mentioned "good taste" as being an issue here. Taste is a matter of opinion, and I'm not asking you if my taste is good or not from your point of view. I'm not telling you that you will like RnY's plot. But the fact is, it won't change how impressive that plot is. Also, it starts slower than your usual fantasy story because it's heavily turned toward mystery/psychological and need therefore to build things far more than your usual fantasy setting and cannot start as fast as a result. So like I care that you think it could be more interesting from the start. If you're unable to bear a few chapter to build a story, as a reader, I can only see that as a failure.

Long story short, rather than starting to get angry, how about you just see by yourself why I'm saying all that? Because no amount of words from me is going to convince you anyway, you're just going to call this fanboyism again and again and reject it. The only thing that will convince you is seeing it by yourself and judging by yourself. Liking it or not is a matter of taste.
Hence why I didn't try to convince you with my previous post. That's both useless and uncalled for anyway. RnY don't need me to prove it's good to be good. If you're already watching it, as long as you keep watching it, you will logically come to your own conclusion. So you don't need me for this, either.
Hen,ce I'm pulling out of this discussion right now. Feel free to start the discussion again on my profile when you'll have seen the anime. Right now, I cannot even talk about it properly here, because I'm going to spoil people about the story. And that's definitely not my goal, nor my wish.
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OHandS said:
julyan said:

D-don't be too pessimistic.
It'll come soon... very soon, I hope. Maybe. :/




Eh. With every passing Dengeki Festival it becomes less and less likely. I'm not even entertaining the possibility until after Durarara!! and Heavy Object finish airing. Even then, I just know Mahouka 2 or Hataraku Maousama 2 will be announced instead.


Horizon 3 also seems possible with some recent promoting. They played some of the theme songs on the Anison radio and Sunrise is screening the first season as part of their festival in August.
 
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i'm pretty sure you were saying prologue before not chapter 1 figures? Anyway a slow build is fine and i like fantasy that has a slow build up and uses that slow pace to its advantage. My favorite genre is epic fantasy and the books I used as an example are very slow paced one has 3 very long prologues that slowly build up the world before you enter its heart and I really enjoyed it.

To me a slow build up in of itself isn't worth praise.

However when used skillfully it allows great characters time to interact with one another naturally and in a real way which results in good dialogue and fleshing out of the characters themselves if your doing it right. It also allows for the creation of an atmosphere and an opportunity to flesh out the world. When all these aspect are done well and combine things progress very naturally and make the story come to life alot more then they other wise would.


Rokka no Yuusha has a slow build up that it does not use well, to develop the aspects that can be felt during that slow build when done skillfully not for me anyway and for reasons I've stated previously.

As for saying "Also alot of people read books has nothing to do with good taste"I simply meant that reading alot of books doesn't suddenly make anyone superior when it comes to their opinion of what's good and what's not.

Anyway discussing this further like you said it's pointless so I'll just wait and to see how things pan out
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Nice to see Index on 1st, although i think their sales are getting worse by each volume.

Oregairu is still in the list as well~

But it's saddening that there is still no visible sales boost for Rokka
 
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Tch......

No Rokka no Yuusha boost yet.
yet
yet
yet
yet




But I'm still pretty happy for Index and Yahari sales. I am really hoping for Index 3, it might give it a nice boost.
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Incidentally does anyone know why Summer Wars reappeared in the rankings for the first time since August 2012?
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Monthly light novel sales ranks (from Jan 2015)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
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Incidentally does anyone know why Summer Wars reappeared in the rankings for the first time since August 2012?

Tv airing of the movie thaks to bakemononoko

7/3 summer wars 11.8
7/10 ookami kodomo 13.6
7/17 the girl who leapt thorough time

Right number is viewer ratings
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Eh. With every passing Dengeki Festival it becomes less and less likely. I'm not even entertaining the possibility until after Durarara!! and Heavy Object finish airing. Even then, I just know Mahouka 2 or Hataraku Maousama 2 will be announced instead.


Horizon 3 also seems possible with some recent promoting. They played some of the theme songs on the Anison radio and Sunrise is screening the first season as part of their festival in August.
so dose that mean there is hope for AW ?
 
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