| Are you blaming Anime Studios for adapting mediocre ass stories (isekai)? Or you're blaming Authors who make these awful stuff without even trying? OR you're blaming the people who enjoyed? I find it hard to believe there are a lot of fans or even profit, because the adaptations don't have a big budget or anything, but still it sucks. The other day I found a wholesome slice of life romance with better plot than most of isekai out there, Why Japan, Why? :( |
3esa_Saba7Jul 8, 2022 5:23 PM
| There's no one to blame in this situation. Studios adapt stories that sell in Japan, whether we like them or not, and no matter how mediocre they are. |
| There's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. |
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kizumi91 said: so are telling me there are fans of My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World? OkayThere's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. |
| Neither of them. It's the producer's fault. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Klad said: it's so weird maybe because of different culture we don't appreciate isekaiThere's no one to blame in this situation. Studios adapt stories that sell in Japan, whether we like them or not, and no matter how mediocre they are. |
3esa_Saba7 said: Yeah well I don't exactly understand how isekais always sell in Japan. I don't think it's a bad genre, but it's way too generic at this point. Though I've been liking reverse isekais lately, such as Paripi Koumei from last season and Isekai Ojisan this season. Klad said: it's so weird maybe because of different culture we don't appreciate isekaiThere's no one to blame in this situation. Studios adapt stories that sell in Japan, whether we like them or not, and no matter how mediocre they are. |
| It depends, usually the studios just animate whatever is in the manga and they can't change it even if its a trash story. You can't really blame them but sometimes you can blame the studio for ruining a story by putting in their own anime original content or bad animation. Personally I would blame the fans because of how toxic they are in both situations and how picky they are. |
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3esa_Saba7 said: kizumi91 said: so are telling me there are fans of My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World? OkayThere's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. Based only on MAL's statistics, that Manga has more than 10k members. Let alone if we're about to count the fans from Japan. |
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Phosphophyllita said: maybe, OR maybe there is a person with higher position than the producer who love isekai but don't want to admit, so he told the producers to do the work for themNeither of them. It's the producer's fault. |
3esa_Saba7Jul 8, 2022 1:46 PM
| The Studio, they're the ones who chose these manga to adapt into anime. Of course, fans are also kind of to blame since they're the ones who bought those manga that got turned into anime. |
| My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
| they're just throwing darts hoping one of them hits the target. But yeah, why act surprised that random SOL have better stories than most anime? It's just a fact. |
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| I think they've gone a bit far with the isekai stuff too, but that's why I just ignore most of them. There's always some kind of trend that sticks around for a while, some longer than others, some I wish would come back, but the only thing that'll stop it is the Japanese fanbase getting tired of it. There's no point in letting it bother you so much. You can only wait for it to die over there. |
| Blame the Japanese for liking what you don't like. |
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| Everyone, or maybe no one at the same time. The ones that are the least to blame I think are the studios. Shit normally runs by the production committee system in order to minimize the losses, so if a studio isn't too high in the committee (which I assume they usually aren't), they don't get much of a say in how much time or staff they get, thus turning out a shit product. Add to that the fact that there are a ton of studios being made that want to burst in popularity, you have a slew of half-assed shows from new studios that have no other choice but to accept more work than they can handle, before they are even ready for it. I don't think that the authors are at fault either. Like the smaller studios, they're just trying to make a name for themselves. You can't exactly fault them to try to make it big by following the trends. Also, not every author is equally talented. Some people simply have a knack for creativity and can make something great even out of a dull concept. Others can really struggle with doing the same. So blaming authors for not delivering a good product when they probably gave it their all, is probably not fair. It's just that companies make whatever the hell that's popular, and since people can't seem to get enough of iskai/fantasy stories these days, that's what gets made. So fans do kinda impact it. Though the biggest culprits are probably the publishers. I heard somewhere that Kadokawa announced that they would make 40 light novel adaptations per year. Given how fucked the anime industry already is, that's a bizarre announcement to make. But here's the thing, you can just avoid trash isekai shows and just watch the good ones. It's really not that hard to do, For a while now, I've been doing this, to the point that I sometimes forget how bad isekai can get. Some tips would be to look at shows made by the more popular studios, reading the synopsis, checking out the scores before-hand, and in some cases simply looking at the posters. |
Amoh25Jul 8, 2022 2:34 PM
| Gintoki and Sugita's birthdays are 1 day apart. |
| There's plenty of adaptations who are better than their source. Studios could just take an idea and make a better one. Studios wanna make quick money with less effort, it's less risky for them. I still think they could make a good original or take a good source and make money. Anime like Gundam, it wasn't after a long time that it got recognised but it gave birth to a big franchise. |
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| It all depends on stuff, + you need to consider that production committee will mainly check what will sell quickly with less effort it can be a generic isekai but if they'll get more money back than they've paid to the studio animating it, than it is worth for them x). Authors of source material are also partially to be blamed following the same schemes sometimes without adding too much of originality to it, but well it is how it is. Studios also should pay attention that some stuff and themes are being too much repetead but there is one thing, they pay attention mainly on Japan audience, so they are less likely to look what overseas audience think of it (can't say if it is different or not, but it is one of the factor here for sure) So you should give some blame to studios (production committee, the animating studio is the last one to blame as in most cases [there are exceptions] animating studio have a little to say about animating such title, they are just said to do that for x money productions is offering or something like that, don't remember how exactly step by step the pre-production and decision stuff look like), to authors and also to Japan audience aswell in my opinion. |
3esa_Saba7 said: kizumi91 said: so are telling me there are fans of My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World? OkayThere's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. Last time I remember that novel has 4 million in circulation while COTE has 6 million, not that far aight. |
| I blame myself, because me not liking Isekai is... well, kinda just my own problem lol. People just usually produce whatever's the most popular currently, it's not really any different from how there's like 10 superhero movies released every year at this point. Complaining about the overabundance of them, as much as I agree, isn't gonna change that. Non-isekai anime is still being produced anyways, so it's better to give those your attention instead. |
| Blame the anime community for eating up every shitty anime. The only reason the same few ideas are reused over and over is because they keep selling. Anime is a business and for companies to make profits and appease shareholders they have to follow market trends. |
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| All three. Anime studios, authors and consumers. |
| I'm blaming the fans for reading that shit, no sane person would read 3 modern isekai, he should stop at one |
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| I would say studios are the ones responsible for adapting garbage isekais every season. But audiences or fans are also partly responsible for the declining quality of the materials that get adapted. If people stop watching these shows, I'm pretty sure studios will also stop producing them. In the past, people are more passionate about the quality of the anime rather than just looking for profit. |
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| Neither of these. I blame the brainless anime fans that consume even the hundredth recycle of a trash plot and make it successful. If it wasn't consumed they wouldn't keep making more of it. It's basically free money for them at this point so I don't blame them. |
| I don't blame anyone. There is nothing particularly wrong with isekai. You can find gold and trash in every genre. |
| A bad studio or a bad author won't magically become good just by shifting genre. |
| You dont see Kyoto or ufotable picking up garbage, thats all I'm saying. A lot of these studios do it simply because they are smaller and need to make a name for themselves. If you look, a lot of the bigger studios arent putting out Isekai copy pasta's, most have maybe 1 big one that they picked up and just run with. |
mwinner said: stupid DEMAND, ruining creativity, ruining lifeNeither of them, the demand is to blame. |
TheMechaManiac said: very true for us anime is entertainment, but for them is working or way of life3esa_Saba7 said: Are you blaming Anime Studios for adapting mediocre ass stories (isekai)? Or you're blaming Authors who make these awful stuff without even trying? OR you're blaming the people who enjoyed? I find it hard to believe there are a lot of fans or even profit, because the adaptations don't have a big budget or anything, but still it sucks. The other day I found a wholesome slice of life romance with better plot than most of isekai out there, Why Japan, Why? :( Neither, the market is to blame. Anime is just another media market, another program meant to cater to a certain demographic and rake in the revenue from the merchandising and commercials. For whatever reason (probably cope that they can never succeed in life) the current diehard otaku like the idea of being reincarnated into a new world where they can score a whole harem of sexy women. |
CickNipolla said: also so true, but I think that's because they have bigger budget and smaller studios don't, also also what's with the number of bans ? HahaYou dont see Kyoto or ufotable picking up garbage, thats all I'm saying. A lot of these studios do it simply because they are smaller and need to make a name for themselves. If you look, a lot of the bigger studios arent putting out Isekai copy pasta's, most have maybe 1 big one that they picked up and just run with. |
| The manga editors...the editors should be blamed for everything casue everyone is following his direction or they won't get serialised... Anime studio president and manga editors they are the ones to blame ..they only care about profit and not the fans or the mangaka or the author.. I've seen lots of it in documentary and J-dramas, and even anime.. |
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| I'm actually enjoying the seasons we are getting. But what I don't get is why there is hate towards isekais, there are less isekais than before and the ones we are getting aren't like those "generic harem power fantasy garbage with low budget", it's the past, get over it. And about the blame over the current state... the public has it, no doubt. The studios wanting to get money is normal, trying to blame them is dumb, you need money to produce. Anyway, if you want more variety stuff just read manga, WNs or LNs. There are a lot of stuff that can't be animated in the current society (budget or content wise). |
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| I mean the fans are the people paying for this stuff and giving then a profit so why wouldn't they just mass produce trash? If I could make easy money with low effort work.Why would I try putting in hard work? |
| Inhales oxygen |
ryo-san said: documentary about anime? Wow, I love to see that, can you recommend some?The manga editors...the editors should be blamed for everything casue everyone is following his direction or they won't get serialised... Anime studio president and manga editors they are the ones to blame ..they only care about profit and not the fans or the mangaka or the author.. I've seen lots of it in documentary and J-dramas, and even anime.. |
DaCraziGuy said: dude what are you talking about, since probably 2020 (when maou gakuin was released) every season has 2-3 of shitty reincarnation anime with the same generic plot. like I've seen some demonlord kid reincarnation bullshit like 5 times in a row each season and all of those were so bad I dropped them after 3-4 episodes. where are those non garbage anime we are getting more and more of? from where I stand these are rare afI'm actually enjoying the seasons we are getting. But what I don't get is why there is hate towards isekais, there are less isekais than before and the ones we are getting aren't like those "generic harem power fantasy garbage with low budget", it's the past, get over it. And about the blame over the current state... the public has it, no doubt. The studios wanting to get money is normal, trying to blame them is dumb, you need money to produce. Anyway, if you want more variety stuff just read manga, WNs or LNs. There are a lot of stuff that can't be animated in the current society (budget or content wise). |
| Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no |
3esa_Saba7 said: that time I was reincarnated as an average ass dude watching anime and writing comments on mal. biggest hit every season :Dkizumi91 said: so are telling me there are fans of My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World? OkayThere's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. |
| Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no |
3esa_Saba7 said: kizumi91 said: so are telling me there are fans of My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World? OkayThere's no smoke without fire, blaming the fans instead. Why wouldn't there be? Just because I dislike a show it doesn't mean NO ONE likes it. Who do you think is watching that? lol |
| Blame the fans honestly, studios are gonna animate what is popular, and authors are gonna write what is sure to sell |
| i don't blame anyone for not everything being up to my taste |
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pasanoid said: I don't think that every isekai has the same plot, at least not lately. If you try to put all in the same bag you could argue that every season are full with generic garbage called romcoms. DaCraziGuy said: dude what are you talking about, since probably 2020 (when maou gakuin was released) every season has 2-3 of shitty reincarnation anime with the same generic plot. like I've seen some demonlord kid reincarnation bullshit like 5 times in a row each season and all of those were so bad I dropped them after 3-4 episodes. where are those non garbage anime we are getting more and more of? from where I stand these are rare afI'm actually enjoying the seasons we are getting. But what I don't get is why there is hate towards isekais, there are less isekais than before and the ones we are getting aren't like those "generic harem power fantasy garbage with low budget", it's the past, get over it. And about the blame over the current state... the public has it, no doubt. The studios wanting to get money is normal, trying to blame them is dumb, you need money to produce. Anyway, if you want more variety stuff just read manga, WNs or LNs. There are a lot of stuff that can't be animated in the current society (budget or content wise). Like I said before, people are kinda edgy with isekai because a couple of years ago (2020 included) were full of generic isekais. |
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| I blame kadokawa for commissioning garbage. |
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