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Aug 20, 2020 9:37 AM
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Ah another case but also involves a mysterious object.

I have to say though...Katou taking the initative to be on the case brings a lot of responsiblity on his shoulders. At the same time, Daisuke takes action in his own hands to bring this case to a close. It's honestly the type of thriller mystery I had expected from this show. I'm sure both characters learned something from this experience.
Aug 20, 2020 10:38 AM
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Damn, things are really mysterious right now, I'm as lost as Katou.

Not really clear what Kambe is trying to do, the same for the reason why Chou is doing this, but seems like we will get to know both next episode.
Also, don't think Kambe killed her, because that makes zero sense.
Aug 20, 2020 10:58 AM
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yusss shits finally going down.. kinda funny how daisuke is so powerless with this case and is resorting to..that. Can't wait till they figure it out hehe
Aug 20, 2020 11:06 AM
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Damn, things are really mysterious right now, I'm as lost as Katou.

Also, don't think Kambe killed her, because that makes zero sense.


Exactly, if he wanted to kill her, he could have done it when he had control of her car before, and not involved the lawyer, who may be completely inoccent.

He wants information from her, and that's likely why she was killed.

The same people who killed (his father?) probably had her killed, and it probably has something to do with the relation between Kambe Industries, and her company.

Either her company is blocking his access with the computer, or his father or grandmother told the computer to block his access, because investigating it would be too dangerous for him.

I am getting to the point where I believe Suzue might have been adopted into the Kambe family as either a play mate, or a body guard (both maybe) for Daisuke.
Aug 20, 2020 11:22 AM
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It was quite a harsh way to finish this episode haha, the whole mystery is kinda interesting but I miss the comedy elements that were in the first episodes
Aug 20, 2020 11:24 AM
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HOOfan_1 said:
lezerman said:
Damn, things are really mysterious right now, I'm as lost as Katou.

Also, don't think Kambe killed her, because that makes zero sense.


Exactly, if he wanted to kill her, he could have done it when he had control of her car before, and not involved the lawyer, who may be completely inoccent.

He wants information from her, and that's likely why she was killed.

The same people who killed (his father?) probably had her killed, and it probably has something to do with the relation between Kambe Industries, and her company.

Either her company is blocking his access with the computer, or his father or grandmother told the computer to block his access, because investigating it would be too dangerous for him.

I am getting to the point where I believe Suzue might have been adopted into the Kambe family as either a play mate, or a body guard (both maybe) for Daisuke.


It said Sayuri Kambe, right? Sayuri is a feminine name so probably Daisuke's mother.
Aug 20, 2020 11:29 AM
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what an episode! it wasn't as action packed like few others have been, but the plot has been thickened! i'm sure kato will crack this one open, i just hope in the end they all work together instead of working alone like in this episode.

i wonder who sayuri exactly is. it's a common female name, so i assume it's daisuke's mother? i've read some theories that he has an older or/and younger secret sibling or aunt/uncle. didn't he say in the first episode that he /used/ to have a mother and a father? so does this mean that his mother got murdered? ahhh, murder mysteries, gotta love 'em.

also, i highly doubt that daisuke killed that woman at the end. it's not like him to do something like that (from what we've seen), also it's kinda counter productive to kill her when she had information that he wanted to know
Aug 20, 2020 11:43 AM
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No way Kambe killed her, but it raises the question who did? Looks like the Kambe family has an interesting past that we don’t know about that could pose trouble for Daisuke in getting his name clear.

I’m wondering if Sayuri is his mother.. can’t wait for next week!
Aug 20, 2020 11:46 AM
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One more episode of Unlimited Balance ...

And now a really interesting and mysterious case, with our two disparate detectives taking different ways to solve it ... On the one hand, Kato taking direct responsibility and, on the other hand, Kanbe doing it on his own (and secretly?) ...

Really interesting episode, although we will need a couple of answers next time.
Aug 20, 2020 11:51 AM
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Quite the drastic change this episode compared to the previous 5. I suppose the overarching plot is finally starting to kick in, huh?

Like many above, I, too, highly doubt that Kambe Daisuke is behind this. Which brings the question, could it be someone with higher authority in the Daisuke household? Sayuri Kambe, for instance?

And then there's the other side of the spectrum surrounding Chou-san. Clearly, he's had his fill with corruption but I'm definitely curious to see the whole picture of it.

Got to feel for Kato this episode lol, he's just as clueless as us the viewers.

I kind of miss the random terrorist of the week formula with the occasional comedy thrown into the mix but hopefully this'll deliver by the end of the ride.
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Aug 20, 2020 11:53 AM

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So it looks like this plot thread will carry the rest of the 5 episodes I'm guessing.

Cho-san has major death flags surrounding him. About to retire, trying to resolve this cold case that's been haunting him. Wouldn't surprise me if that scene from that cheesy crime drama movie that Daisuke and Haru were watching in ep 4 becomes a reality.

So it looks like maybe Daisuke's mother(?) was murdered, and maybe this tech group had something to do with it. Yet if that group is also in cahoots with the Kambe group, isn't Daisuke technically going rogue to expose these dark secrets his family group is hiding? Clearly Cho-san is not on the same page with Daisuke if he thinks he caused the car explosion.

I just hope we see Haru and Daisuke pairing up again in future episodes, their dynamic together is kind of the best part about this anime...

HOOfan_1 said:
lezerman said:
Damn, things are really mysterious right now, I'm as lost as Katou.

Also, don't think Kambe killed her, because that makes zero sense.


Exactly, if he wanted to kill her, he could have done it when he had control of her car before, and not involved the lawyer, who may be completely inoccent.

He wants information from her, and that's likely why she was killed.

The same people who killed (his father?) probably had her killed, and it probably has something to do with the relation between Kambe Industries, and her company.

Either her company is blocking his access with the computer, or his father or grandmother told the computer to block his access, because investigating it would be too dangerous for him.

I am getting to the point where I believe Suzue might have been adopted into the Kambe family as either a play mate, or a body guard (both maybe) for Daisuke.
HOOfan_1 said:
lezerman said:
Damn, things are really mysterious right now, I'm as lost as Katou.

Also, don't think Kambe killed her, because that makes zero sense.


Exactly, if he wanted to kill her, he could have done it when he had control of her car before, and not involved the lawyer, who may be completely inoccent.

He wants information from her, and that's likely why she was killed.

The same people who killed (his father?) probably had her killed, and it probably has something to do with the relation between Kambe Industries, and her company.

Either her company is blocking his access with the computer, or his father or grandmother told the computer to block his access, because investigating it would be too dangerous for him.

I am getting to the point where I believe Suzue might have been adopted into the Kambe family as either a play mate, or a body guard (both maybe) for Daisuke.


in ep. 4, Daisuke said to HAru that Suzue is a relative. But I guess that dosen't necessarily mean they are related by blood. Their relationship has been kinda...non-existent this entire anime so far. Suzue clearly cares a lot about Daisuke, but he's acted more or less pretty cold and indifferent towards her. Only acting kind towards her at the end of ep. 4 when he offered to make her that natto dish.

I mean Daisuke has been pretty cold to all the other characters, but idk if they are going to do anything more with Daisuke and Suzue's relationship. I thought maybe we'd get a episode heavily focused on Suzue, but maybe not. So far it's only been her intro in ep 2 and her going into obsessed stalker mode in ep.4

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Aug 20, 2020 12:26 PM

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I have to wait one week to find out what has happened? That's not fair!
I think it's obvious that Kambe didn't kill her.
I want everyone to remember that the woman asked Cho-san to call her boss before confessing everything. So it was probably him who did it. Or her, you never know.
I believe that Sayuri Kambe maybe had a more personal relationship with Cho-san and that's why he feels this way. This could be totally wrong though so don't take my word for it.
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Aug 20, 2020 12:34 PM

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LMAO Haru's colleagues supported him but during the inquiry they straight up stabbed him in the back. Top 10 anime betrayals

Kambe is innocent imo, however I'm near certain he'll be incriminated for the murder in the next episode or so. My first guess would be that the boss did it, after she called him and told him what's up.

This 'arc' is getting really interesting, I hope somehow Haru manages to help Daisuke.
Aug 20, 2020 1:11 PM

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Whoa, it looks like Kambe doesn't have all the clearance to access HEUSC's data......Too bad for Mrs. Imura , she got blown up to pieces along with her lawyer, but I don't think Kambe did it.

Aug 20, 2020 1:45 PM
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i think


anyone have the translated costs?
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Looks like we've moved from the comic beginnings into the serious part of the show.

We'll be seeing more of Cho-san and his history with the Kanbes, as well as looking at the Kanbe family history. it's had an interesting start so far.
Aug 20, 2020 2:22 PM

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Aug 20, 2020 2:26 PM

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Damn, the game just changed completely! There's obviously some dark secret in the Kanbe family linked to illegal trading/smuggling and it's something that Daisuke can't even access info on.

Seems to be some connection between Cho & the Kanbe family too, most likely to do with the murdered Sayuri Kanbe. I'm certain that Daisuke isn't responsible for that Imura's death but 100% it involves someone in his family... like the side of the family he can't any info about through HEUSC.

I appreciate Haru's strong moral compass and dedication to doing things by the book but I think that's going to have to change. Sometimes you have to use questionable methods and morally grey tactics to get a job done, just as I'm sure Cho has learnt over his many years as a detective.
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Danae said:
LMAO Haru's colleagues supported him but during the inquiry they straight up stabbed him in the back. Top 10 anime betrayals

Kambe is innocent imo, however I'm near certain he'll be incriminated for the murder in the next episode or so. My first guess would be that the boss did it, after she called him and told him what's up.

This 'arc' is getting really interesting, I hope somehow Haru manages to help Daisuke.


The other members of the Modern Crimes Department piss me off so much; they're always making Haru look bad.

I think Daisuke is innocent too but I think the woman's death is definitely linked to his family. There's obviously some dark shit going on with his family that he doesn't know about (exhibit A - he limited access to HEUSC)
Aug 20, 2020 3:21 PM

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Kambe doesn't seem like the type to murder. There's definitely something more to this.
Aug 20, 2020 3:47 PM

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The conspiracy kicks into high gear with Kambe's inaccessibility to top secret information that not even a family member can access...well this is bad.

The consequence of last episode: Haru being booted out of the entire investigation. But it's not without a cold past without Cho and his insider information, plus the affiliates that Kambe directly conflicts with contact to his family and the top brass.

And therein lies Haru and Kambe's differential factors of influence to solve big cases such as this. 2 VERY different ways to go around it (Kambe vs. Cho) and potentially exposing future liabilities to get their wanted information, BY HOOK OR BY CROOK.

The death of Imura...only expels more cracks, and a murder case of the past closely related to another member of the Kambe family: Sayuri.

Getting serious to clear a debt that has yet to be returned in justice...interesting!
Aug 20, 2020 4:21 PM
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Haru was left-over by almost everyone
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Aug 20, 2020 4:34 PM
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cristinacke28 said:
anyone have the translated costs?


Investigation of Imura ¥22,000,000
Cost of hologram of the accident on Imura car front window ¥18,000,000
Imura car hacking cost ¥60,000,000
Traffic light hacking cost ¥15,000,000
Compensation for the damage during Imura's arrest ¥154,000,000
Total ¥269,000,000
Aug 20, 2020 4:49 PM

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Man! This is getting so interesting!
When I read "Sayuri" my first thought was "his sister" for some reason, but I guess it could be his mother.
Can't wait till next week episode!
Aug 20, 2020 6:34 PM
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idk why but that woman is rly suspicious. she didn't want to tell any informations,yet HUESC doesn't work in this eps. there's no comedy in this eps tho but its really action-ish episode.
Aug 20, 2020 7:48 PM

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dammnnnnnn now this shit is really picking up lol. Loved how Cho and (potentially) Kambe didn't hold back with their approaches instead of just playing the nice guy all the time. Kambe not being able to fully utilize HEUSC is also quite interesting to see, not sure how much is gonna be unraveled with 5 eps to ago but definitely looking forward to it
Aug 20, 2020 8:24 PM

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Wow! This episode just took this anime into another level! I am absolutely loving this!

Obviously it wasn't Kanbe who killed that girl, someone else did that...
But i do wonder who has higher permissions than Kanbe, i thought he developed that AI.

The following episodes will be so interesting, can't wait!
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Aug 20, 2020 10:13 PM
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this episode was really something.

i don't think kambe was the one who blew up the car at the end. it makes more sense that the company she works for did so instead. towards the end of the episode, the woman mentioned something about calling her boss before she confessed everything to the police, so its possible that the company, who has the capability to make these expensive, large-scale explosives and radio-jamming devices, could detonate the car somehow. there are probably higher-ups who know even more than she does, but even the slightest bit of information being leaked could further lead the police on their trail and undeniably harm the reputation of their company if illegal activities are discovered, and they value that over the life of a mere employee. it goes to show how ruthless these kinds of companies can be to keep things under wraps.

i'm excited to see how the kambe family and cho are connected to this case, which is much larger than we initially expected. i'm liking the episode continuity. can't wait for next week!
Aug 20, 2020 11:18 PM

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Now this is getting intense, the death flag for that old man Chou is just so high

there's no reason for Kanbe to kill the woman if he, as well, can't get information from her.

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Aug 20, 2020 11:42 PM

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TThis is getting better. Now that we have some deeper plot. I hope this isn't just ending in the next episode - would be nice if they followed this until the last episode.

I guess it is about some mother/father or brother/sister (or uncle and aunt) from Daisuke. Grandmother is still alive but she doesn't really seem in control ... while also Daisuke hasn't access to all info from the butler. Someone else must have programmed him and blocked out Daisuke from certain stuff.
Aug 21, 2020 12:06 AM

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Due to that military-grade weapon, things went dark quickly.

That mystery surrounding that weapon has cost that woman's life. Tying up loose ends. Still, I wonder who ordered the explosion. Is it Kambe? or from the company?

Also, their former work was a murder investigation related to the Kambe. Can't wait to find out.
Aug 21, 2020 12:53 AM
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Can we get some Justice For Kato Already??!!! 🙂🙂
Aug 21, 2020 1:33 AM
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cristinacke28 said:

anyone have the translated costs?


i love the this week's plot development! here's the translations:

COST INCURRED THIS EPISODE:

井村身辺調査費
Imura-san's background investigation cost
¥22,000,000

井村車モニター事故影像制作費
Hologram accident video production cost on Imura-san's car's windshield display
¥18,000,000

井村車ハッキング費用
Imura-san's car hacking cost
¥60,000,000

信号機ハッキング費用

Traffic light hacking cost
¥15,000,000

井村逮捕の過程における損害補償
Damages compensation during Imura-san's arrest
¥154,000,000

TOTAL
¥269,000,000
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now this is getting real intense hype!
this is more like it!
5/5!


Aug 21, 2020 5:11 AM

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Since episode 5 everything got really interesting. The plot thickens and I like it.

Curious to know who caused the car to explode. Was it Daisuke, that woman's boss or maybe someone totally different.
Excited to find out in the next episode. O/

Aug 21, 2020 5:36 AM

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now this series getting so deep and more interesting !!
Aug 21, 2020 7:58 AM
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Damm, and here got contend with a decent episodic show. shits getting real.
Aug 21, 2020 9:37 AM

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novus_mihi said:
HOOfan_1 said:


Exactly, if he wanted to kill her, he could have done it when he had control of her car before, and not involved the lawyer, who may be completely inoccent.

He wants information from her, and that's likely why she was killed.

The same people who killed (his father?) probably had her killed, and it probably has something to do with the relation between Kambe Industries, and her company.

Either her company is blocking his access with the computer, or his father or grandmother told the computer to block his access, because investigating it would be too dangerous for him.

I am getting to the point where I believe Suzue might have been adopted into the Kambe family as either a play mate, or a body guard (both maybe) for Daisuke.


It said Sayuri Kambe, right? Sayuri is a feminine name so probably Daisuke's mother.

Daisuke asked Imura if she knew Shigemaru Kambe to which she was kinda shocked to hear. Which brings me to speculate that Shigemaru is Daisuke's dad and a bad guy. The case was about Sayuri Kambe who seems to be Daisuke's mom and seeing how he only has his grandma and cousin to live with. I'd say his dad to be the culprit. Maybe his dad married into the family or something.
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Aug 21, 2020 10:53 AM

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How sketchy can he be? The mystery is real in this episode >>;
Kambe is in a tight spot and this Sayuri person... maybe it's his mother or his wife? Can't wait to find out who she is.

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Aug 21, 2020 2:44 PM

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Dude Kambe just murdered 2 people for god knows whatever reason.

I'm shook.

Aug 21, 2020 2:54 PM

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novus_mihi said:


It said Sayuri Kambe, right? Sayuri is a feminine name so probably Daisuke's mother.

Daisuke asked Imura if she knew Shigemaru Kambe to which she was kinda shocked to hear. Which brings me to speculate that Shigemaru is Daisuke's dad and a bad guy. The case was about Sayuri Kambe who seems to be Daisuke's mom and seeing how he only has his grandma and cousin to live with. I'd say his dad to be the culprit. Maybe his dad married into the family or something.


I thought that, but I think in the beginning he basically alludes to both of his parents being dead. So I would think it would be both his mom and dad.
Aug 21, 2020 3:22 PM

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Well this episode escalated I'm lost as katou right now.


just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫
Aug 21, 2020 4:26 PM
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Shit's getting real right now, damn.
Aug 21, 2020 6:34 PM

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Things are starting to get interesting.
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I think the old guy (Chou-san) have some kind of old relationship with Daisuke or his family. And I'm also guessing that the Kambe Sayuri's Murder incident is about Daisuke's mother.

Pretty interesting series of events. Looking forward to the next episode.


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The shit got real. The show is really turning now into a good mystery thriller. So do many questions have popped up. Shigemaru Kambe, Sayuri Kambe and Cho-san's relation to all of this. I hope the old man doesn't die though. Kambe family being so rich definitely means they aren't fully good and honest people but how does Daisuke deals with that remains to be seen. Also how Kato and his sense of justice turns the tide is another interesting aspect of it.
Aug 22, 2020 12:29 AM

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i really respect Haru in how he doesn't ever sacrifice his beliefs and ideals, even if it means clashing with his own mentor. that takes a strong will.

Daisuke seems unwilling to rely on or involve Haru in this particular case, probably because it's pretty personal to him. but I wonder if that will cause a rift as Haru might be feeling left in the dark and shut out. idk how much drama we can get into with 5 episodes left

im always surprised at how quickly each episode goes by
Aug 22, 2020 9:05 AM
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Things are getting more and more serious and interesting!
Apparently, Cho-san is not the person Haru thought he is. Cho-san is ready to use some dirty tricks just to solve a case, which is the opposite of Haru's belief. As a consequence, Cho-san and Haru's relationship could possibly falloff. Whereas, it's good to see that Haru and Daisuke's relationship is deepening and they're now trusting each other. And it looks like Daisuke and Cho-san are both investigating Daisuke's parents' murder case. Can't wait for the next episode!

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That Sayuri Murder case was probably the reason why Daisuke became a detective, albeit he does't need that job to earn money in the first place!

I'd wager it wasn't Daisuke that set the bomb of course. It's probably that woman's boss she was talking about; just to keep her mouth shut.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
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The old man Chousuke is such a badass
Also i didn't expect kanbe to kill that woman
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