| It seems every time modern anime is brought up, it's always in the sense of how it fails in comparison to previous eras. But, as a long time viewer of anime (Since the days of Dragonball, Sailor Moon and Ronin Warriors), I think there's a lot to like about the Modern anime era. One example: On average, anime villains have far more complex motivations and personalities than they did in the 80's and 90s. Most villains back then were just evil because the hero needed someone to beat. They were just evil because the script called for it. But, now you have villains like Askeladd, Makishima Shogou and Meruem. Complex villains with sometimes justifiable reasoning for their villainry, which makes the story better. In some ways, anime today is better than anime in the past. Not even considering the production quality or mass availability of it. (New heads will never know what it's like to have to drive across town to the anime shop to rent a DVD just so you can see anime at all. LOL!) But, what are some ways you think that modern anime is better than past eras? |
| Characters have more depth like you said, and their personalities are more thought out. In some ways, yes, the animation I have found to be improved in modern times (slightly) but I do prefer older anime as I like the themes shown in it more than modern. |
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| Simulcast are one good thing about modern anime. I still watch dub anime sometimes. Dubs used to take forever to get new episodes. |
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| It's convenient not having to wait for fansubs anymore since almost every show gets subs on release now. |
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| It's GORGEOUS, full of scenery porn, and I personally think character writing is far stronger...as well as relationships and stuff. Looking back on older anime (90s)....they weren't so great at love...especially shounen anime. |
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| Even if it's still mostly average/bad and there are problems with writing, production level is very high, so shows are at least watchable. |
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| Lots of things really. Like modern anime are able to convey good stories in only 12 eps whereas a lot of older anime need to spend lots of episodes to do so |
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| I enjoy the SOL genre and there is much less when browsing through what was coming out in the pre 2000s. I haven't really seen any anime that would be comparable to March Comes in Like A Lion or Shōwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjū. Animation in general has had ups and downs but the highs of today in my opinion are greater than the highs of the past. Then again lots of really bad animation is also more recent. (though old anime had tons of animation issues as well) In terms of industry I think it is good that anime is becoming more popular. Streaming especially as it gets bigger will hopefully allow more shows to get around censorship and explore more genres. Don't hate the otaku community at all but it would be a net positive for the industry to be able to reach more kinds of audiences and create more variety of shows. Granted the draw back is countries with lots of pull like China also getting heavily into anime may lead to other forms of censorship. Anyway that is just my opinion. I am still exploring older content. |
BilboBaggins365Feb 13, 2020 9:26 PM
| I prefer a lot about older anime, but there's lots to like about modern shows. Were getting a lot more full adaptations of old and new manga in the last few years, that's a trend I've loved. We also tend to get more high quality dramas now than in the 90s or 00s. The existence of studio orange has been pretty refreshing as well. |
| The best part of modern anime for me is that pretty much every season, there's something for every anime fan. Also, it's not as much an aspect of modern anime as it is the community, but I really appreciate that anime is gradually becoming more acceptable as a hobby, to the point where a lot of people don't just automatically think you're a weird perv the second the word "anime" escapes your lips. |
| What I like about Modern Anime is I personally believe the quality is better, as in both the stories and the animation is better now compared to older anime. I also like that there is more anime to watch each season now and more variety of anime. |
Dauphine said: 2 Like, harem MC's used to be very ugly. Over the years, Harem MC's have become better looking and some are actually very handsome bishounen indeed, like, look at the MC of Tate no Yuusha! Shounen characters have also become much better looking since the mid 20"!!!!! I second this. Would like to add Kazami Yuji from Grisaia series and Kojou Akatsuki from Strike the Blood. (Or maybe Ousawa Akatsuki with that body of his) Not to mention how good looking is the MC of Maou Gakuin in the manga. (Which is also considered as harem ) I would like to add same applies to the Shoujo main characters also. I mean how Yona , Chihaya Ayase and Shirayuki look gorgeous. I'd rather to have my gorgeous shoujo females over the plain and boring looking ones. |
VargnattFeb 14, 2020 2:40 AM
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| Better artstyle and animation (in my opinion at least) More daring (when it comes to fanservice, violence etc) More genre diversity (back then it was mostly shounen, mecha etc) |
| They're much easier to watch. Old anime suffer from bad audio a lot. Character-wise there are less annoying characters. They can't be eradicated entirely but there are less characters annoying just for the sake of being annoying. OP and ED themes have gotten catchier regardless of anime genre. The design of the characters are also much more varied, there are many more hair colors for Earthlings and there's a huge variety of styles these days. CGI isn't as terrible-looking anymore. Same goes for effects. |
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| The quality of explosions has greatly improved compared to previous eras |
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| I think modern anime is as a whole better cause the industry is only growing so we now got: Better animation quality Little to no filler Short hard hitting 12 or 24 episode seasons More anime in general, which means more good anime More great mangas/lns get adaptations, which again, means more good anime High quality dubs Mainstream appeal (its really nice to see anime finally getting the mainstream attention it deserves) Actual good cgi Stronger and bigger communities More remakes to old anime (kinda like fruits basket or brotherhood) Fast as hell simulcasting, weather you watch it legally or not, you're bound to get a new episode within an hour or less, and a dub after like a week or 2 The only main bad thing about modern anime that I could think of is the fact that there's more trash since there's a lot more anime in general, but I don't care cause trash plagues every media |
yotiFeb 14, 2020 7:48 AM
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| I like that we nowadays for the most part don't really only have to hope that a fansub group will sub it so simulcasts are one of the best things and also the CGI in modern anime is usually better than in older ones. |
| any time there’s CGI, it actually looks acceptable |
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| I like all the things that are now possible to do with computer assistance that were extremely hard to do before or outright impossible. Attack on Titan's 3DMG sequences for example. |
| One thing animation seems to have gotten better at is the "awkward highlight" problem of older animation. If you watch older stuff, sometimes you can tell "hey, that one rock is going to move" simply because it's drawn differently from the background. It can still happen, but it happens less. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| Animation, mostly, can't really think of anything else. |
| I appreciate the fact that modern anime has mostly done away with seizure inducing flashes. |
SunnySelenophile said: I don't read Mangas or LN, I only watch anime. I used to, but it just wasn't as satisfying as watching the story fully animated, so I stopped. So, I don't know which animes are originals and which are manga adaptations. But, I just meant as a general rule with that example, and those guys just came to my head. Injenss said: One example: On average, anime villains have far more complex motivations and personalities than they did in the 80's and 90s. Most villains back then were just evil because the hero needed someone to beat. They were just evil because the script called for it. But, now you have villains like Askeladd, Makishima Shogou and Meruem. Complex villains with sometimes justifiable reasoning for their villainry, which makes the story better. Your examples are fairly weird, with the exception of Makishima (since I think Pyscho pass was an anime original). Anime is mostly an adaptation medium, with most of the stories coming from manga (historically) and light novels (more recently). So analysing story elements with respect to time for adaptations is a bit pointless, when the source material was released years prior. Vinland Saga was serialised in 2005 while HxH was around in the 90s. In any case, from my perspective, the best things about modern anime are the variety (atleast at surface level), and the massive number of new releases. Easier access is also a good point. |
Dauphine said: Although it may not seem like it, based on the things i said previously on these forums, i actually do like a lot of things about modern anime, here's a list: 1. Much bigger variety of anime to choose from, anime are much more varied in pretty much every way possible than in the past, ranging from themes, characters, plots, genres, art etc. In the past, it was very common for a genre to dominate the anime scene for years, like, there was a time when almost every anime coming out just HAD to have Mecha somewhere, it HAD to, it was mandatory! And let's not forget about Sci-Fi(often went hand in hand with Mecha as well....) or Harem/Ecchi rom-coms. Yes, looking back throughout the seasonal charts, i realize that some genres like Harem-Ecchi were indeed more prevalent back then(or they are just not labeled properly anymore nowadays....) 4. No more fillers or if there are any, it's completely minimal in comparison to the mountains of fillers found in older(pre 2010 i guess) anime! Two of my favorite things about anime today. I remember how there was just nothing but Mecha, Mecha, Mecha, Mecha, Mecha. And I loved some of it, like Gundam and Evangelion, of course. But, it was just seriously overkilled. To be able to jump from an anime about a suicide cult, to an anime about firefighters vs. fire starting mutants to an anime about an Isekai hero with OCD in a span of a week, is awesome. |
| Directors/writers seem less hesitant to be artsy, and really try to elevate the artform by tackling themes more profound that the standard "friends are important, believe in yourself" garbage that's been permeating since anime came into existence, and presenting it more skillfully than ever before. I think cinematography in general has improved greatly for TV anime. |
Injenss said: like Askeladd, Makishima Shogou and Meruem This is roughly 2005, 2012 and 1998...Makishima Shogou is the newest and the lamest here so not very good examples. Try with others! For my perspective the villains nowadays generally are not that more nuanced but on the other hand more realistic - they have more practical goals. In my opinion there are not many core changes since the 00s but the scripts nowadays sound a bit more polished also the video and audio edits smoother or more dynamic. I guess this comes from all the technical advances - you can research and write faster, you can edit AV faster and the communication between the different teams is eased. Lately have seen some titles heavily relying on Google Maps, Google Earth and computer blueprints for various real buildings. A modern type of workflow also means less errors and more ways to correct them in time. Short_Circut said: Lots of things really. Like modern anime are able to convey good stories in only 12 eps whereas a lot of older anime need to spend lots of episodes to do so This is more a question of planing - older shows were forced to drag the story to fill slots of 50+ episodes but usualy it ended after an year. Nowadays they are forced to rush chunks of if it in singles cours with no grantee there will be a continuation. Thus both have problems! Chiibi said: It's GORGEOUS, full of scenery porn Scenery porn is a concept old as anime. Yon can have it even with more minimalistic styles. For example Takarajima (1979)         Or some screen shots from Heidi (1974).    |
alshuFeb 14, 2020 4:51 PM
| It's interesting how with modern anime, female characters look worse, but male characters now look sexier than ever. Also, there's more BL-themed anime than ever now, or at least it seems that way. |
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| The main thing I like about modern anime is ur mom |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| What's even considered modern anime anyway? How far back are we talking. |
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| i don't comment on personal preference (like story telling, visual, character, trope, ETC), so here is the OBJECTIVE reasoning. >diversity of choice there is soo many anime made that you can always rely that you can at least found something. >accessibility thanks to internet age, you can stream/download anything anytime, no long wait, no dead fansub, no dead link, ETC. remember XDCC? i feel old. >High Quality screening good old 360p 4:3 screening, who even miss them? LMAO |
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| More or less the same thing I like about older anime - shows that appeal to my personal preference. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Ericonator said: People define it differently, but I consider there to be four anime eras:What's even considered modern anime anyway? How far back are we talking. 1917-1960 (Japan Only Era) When anime was small time even in Japan, was heavily controlled by the government and nobody really knew much or cared about it outside of Japan. It didn't even look like it does today.) 1961-1979 (The Classic Era) When anime started to get the animation style we're more familiar with today, and got really popular in Japan, and started to get international play, mainly due to Mushi and Tatsunoko studios (Astro Boy and Speed Racer, respectively). 1980-1999 (International Era/Golden Years) When anime really started blowing up internationally and produced some of the biggest classics, like Dragonball, Gundam, Yuyu Hakusho, and of course the Studio Ghibli works. 2000-2020 (The Modern/Internet Era) This era would be defined by anime's explosive spread on the internet. Becoming an international monetary juggernaut, spawning hundreds of studios, etc... That's how I define the eras, anyway. Generally 20 year stretches. |
In DVD terms is 480p and the original analogue broadcast had better colours but the poor archiving methods degraded it. A new scan and restoration of the original movie tape (if available) that was used to shoot the TV anime will give you more details and colours than most of the modern TV products. Only the 4:3 will remain but I don't thinks it's a real issue. |
alshu said: that's modern technology to made them look like modern anime tho.In DVD terms is 480p and the original analogue broadcast had better colours but the poor archiving methods degraded it. A new scan and restoration of the original movie tape (if available) that was used to shoot the TV anime will give you more details and colours than most of the modern TV products. Only the 4:3 will remain but I don't thinks it's a real issue. |
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Kuma said: that's modern technology to made them look like modern anime tho. Those are the old artists that putted such efforts and skills that their art will look better when just adapted for not recreated with modern technology. Less time is given to the new artists just because of the business restrains. Those new tools are not used to their full extent...even by comparison with the projects around 2010. |
alshuFeb 14, 2020 5:12 PM
| The things I like about modern anime are the same things I like about older anime. Aside from some window dressing and the near-eradication of filler episodes, not much has really changed. |
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alshu said: Kuma said: that's modern technology to made them look like modern anime tho. Those are the old artist that but such an effort that their art will look better when just adapted to modern technology, not recreated. that mean they admit modern visual is better. or at very least markettable. |
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Theoretically (and this even goes without saying) - yes, practically - not always. There are many botched projects in the last years: result of impossible schedules. Kuma said: or at very least markettable. People will buy any trash if it's trendy. I am not against modern anime or anything. But good stuff comes rarely despite technical advancements and everything...and I need more than what I can find in the seasonals. Thus I turn to older and retro looking titles. A lot of interesting projects there despite being buried under the dust. |
alshuFeb 14, 2020 5:26 PM
Seiya said: It's interesting how with modern anime, female characters look worse, but male characters now look sexier than ever. I both a agree and disagree with this statement. I actually think both male and female characters are more attractive now. Anime tiddies are better these days too in my opinion. Then again it's all relative. Kind of hard to make a generalized statement about these kind of things when not every anime looks exactly the same.I'll admit I think Faye from Cowboy Bebop, a 90's show, has a much better body than a lot modern female characters. |
Setsuei said: Seiya said: It's interesting how with modern anime, female characters look worse, but male characters now look sexier than ever. I both a agree and disagree with this statement. I actually think both male and female characters are more attractive now. Anime tiddies are better these days too in my opinion. Then again it's all relative. Kind of hard to make a generalized statement about these kind of things when not every anime looks exactly the same.I'll admit I think Faye from Cowboy Bebop, a 90's show, has a much better body than a lot modern female characters. Anime tits are shiny now, but that's the only positive thing. Most of the time, the breasts in modern anime are too big, and I'm not into that. I prefer anime girls from the 80s & 90s, and I have little to no interest in modern anime girls. |
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Seiya said: Setsuei said: I both a agree and disagree with this statement. I actually think both male and female characters are more attractive now. Anime tiddies are better these days too in my opinion. Then again it's all relative. Kind of hard to make a generalized statement about these kind of things when not every anime looks exactly the same.I'll admit I think Faye from Cowboy Bebop, a 90's show, has a much better body than a lot modern female characters. Anime tits are shiny now, but that's the only positive thing. Most of the time, the breasts in modern anime are too big, and I'm not into that. I prefer anime girls from the 80s & 90s, and I have little to no interest in modern anime girls. I'm not into huge anime tits either, but our definitions of what's too big are probably vastly different. When I think "too big" I think the girls in Maken-Ki, Tomo from Seikon no Qwaser, Tsunade from Naruto and Cattleya and Melpha from Queens Blade. Anything smaller than those examples is generally fine with me |
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