| Just in case you don't know the etymology traps are boys who look like cute girls and reverse traps are girls who look like cute boys. Traps are visually identical to females but the audience has the information that they're actually biologically male. Without this information they would be the same as any other girl (boys have female voice actors most of the time anyway). If this information by itself is what you like about them then it's presumed that you like them because they are male and so you're gay (there obviously could be and probably are other fetishes at play here). Reverse traps look like boys (albeit typically fairly feminine boys). Since they have the appearance of males it could be assumed that you're attracted to males, but this wouldn't hold up if you're not attracted to other anime guys. This could also be compared to having a preference to tomboys in real life since in general females can get away with dressing closer to the opposite sex before being labeled as a cross-dresser. In my own opinion I don't think liking either says much about your sexual orientation, but I personally find reverse traps more attractive than traditional traps. What are your thoughts on the two? |
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| If you like traps, you are gay because a trap is male. Of you like reverse traps, you are straight because a reverse trap is female. Simple. |
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Askorti said: I find it funny how you didn't arrive at the most obvious answer possible. Bisexuality. No human is 100% straight or 100% gay, we all have some stronger or weaker leanings to the other side. Liking traps of either type can be simply explained that you're simply closer to the sexual middle ground than most other people. Traps are basically the combination of both feminine and masculine traits, so doesn't it stand to reason that (partially)bisexual people would be interesting in that? To elaborate, sexuality is not a binary system where 0 is straight and 1 is gay. It's a scale that goes from 100% (straight), through 50% (bisexual) to 0% (gay). (you can mirror the percentages, doesn't really matter) So liking traps doesn't make you gay, it just means that you might be less straight than other straight people who do not like them. This is of course a gross simplification of the problem, as there's far more to it than that. Does liking tomboys mean that you're less straight than guys who like more feminine girls? That's up to you to ponder upon. I think that in general what you said is more true for females. It's more likely a straight female will go for a lesbian relationship if they feel like they connect emotionally with another girl. More often for males, straight guys will never even consider stepping into a gay relationship. They physically can't feel sexually aroused by another man. |
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| if only anime had more reverse traps particularly the buck angel type maybe the answer wouldnt be so heavy in favor of traditional traps |
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| Haven't you guys ever seen reverse traps in real life? Like those moments when you thought it was a gay couple or was looking at someone's face then notice they were wearing a skirt. It's kinda unsettling and disturbing. It's less the actual person (though yes they tend to be smaller or completely flat), but their choice of hairstyle and sometimes their clothes contribute to that look. It's more than likely intentional as they are tomboys or the male-type lesbian. They are very much female. I've not seen actual traps in real life and I don't hope to. |
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Darek said: It is less gay to fap to traps and I am totally not saying that because I fap to them. Okay I am How would it be less gay? How do you fantasize about traps? You'd have to eventually find some way to avoid the whole dick thing when it comes to fantasy sex in your mind. When it comes to reverse traps, the initial fantasising is kinda gay, but the further you go into the fantasy the less gay it is... because well they kinda have a vagina. And they'll probably moan like a girl too. It could even be considered gap moe. |
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BurningSpirit said: What's kind of funny is that even the most feminine of girls here don't wear skirts, at least not very often. I have seen butch lesbians in real life (or at least people who look like butch lesbians) and you can tell from their facial structure that they're female (their breasts also give it away).Haven't you guys ever seen reverse traps in real life? Like those moments when you thought it was a gay couple or was looking at someone's face then notice they were wearing a skirt. It's kinda unsettling and disturbing. It's less the actual person (though yes they tend to be smaller or completely flat), but their choice of hairstyle and sometimes their clothes contribute to that look. It's more than likely intentional as they are tomboys or the male-type lesbian. They are very much female. I've not seen actual traps in real life and I don't hope to. |
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| As I once told to myself, "It's not really gay if you like it, just feels like it" I would take a trap over a male appeared person any day (as long they look and act the part) and reverse traps are a +1 if you manage to find out because its females being dudes, which isn't all that bad. So yeah, its kind bisexual towards both unless you're leaning more towards the one direction. So I'd say, both are gay as it depends on the person's current gender. |
| Just say "no homo" when you are fapping to traps and you are ok. Definitely not gay. |
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| wished the term reverse in the anime community would just die or be renamed |
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| . If you are attracted to transsexuals, that doesn't qualify you as straight. Just saying. That would be more a pansexual. That said, my stance on transsexuality they should not expect me to know their gender unless it's plainly obvious they are dressed as the gender they identify as. But if they correct me politely, I will use their preferred gender pronoun. However I will have no sexual attraction for them. So my question is, if there is a male who still has a dick but sexually identify as a female, and as you anally penetrate him, can you say with confidence you are straight as you eject your load into his butt? zombie_pegasus said: What's kind of funny is that even the most feminine of girls here don't wear skirts, at least not very often. I have seen butch lesbians in real life (or at least people who look like butch lesbians) and you can tell from their facial structure that they're female (their breasts also give it away). Just for records, crop tops and hot pants are disgusting imo. In any case, I guess you live in the west... you know those things that asian students have to wear, the school uniform? Yeah female school uniforms have skirts. There are some people with pretty gender neutral face structures, having a baby face and a tan helps obscure face structure even more. In that certain circumstance I was describing earlier, I was in a crowded train and stuff. So I didn't look down (I was more looking around for space to move into) for a long time, therefore that moment of realisation that the person in front of me is female was a little surprising. |
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Darek said: transphobe Look out everyone, the Tumblr boat has come to dock! |
| i never liked any trap and i will never Both are gay , Both are shit |
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First, you have to define gayness as a physical quantity to be able to talk about something being "more gay", "less gay"... so maybe if you come up with a definition, talking about it would make more sense. Askorti said: To elaborate, sexuality is not a binary system where 0 is straight and 1 is gay. It's a scale that goes from 100% (straight), through 50% (bisexual) to 0% (gay). (you can mirror the percentages, doesn't really matter) Nice concept mate, but nah. Remember genetics? Multifactorial inheritance of one sign? It's just like you've said in terms that different outcomes are distributed on the 0-100% scale, but if you are heterosexual, then you are 100% heterosexual (if your height is 180cm, you are not 190cm tall at the same time). Same goes for bisexuality and homosexuality. And heterosexuality is geneticaly by far the most prevalent outcome. Yes, the real outcome is heavily determined by your social environment, but that doesn't mean that a group of 3 magically becomes a spectrum. |
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That is not how being a girl works. But I agree with you that fapping to traps doesn't make you a gay per se. They have female features which means that they are able to and in fact SHOULD induce sexual attraction in heterosexual males. |
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Darek said: #IamOnlyShitpostingIfYouHaven'tRealized #IamAlsoShitpostingIfYouHaven'tRealized #TheWayIShitpostIsBeingTMI |
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| If a man wants to have sex with another man, likes dicks and dreams having a relationship with a man. It's gay af no dressing up as a chick will remove that, you actually are even more gay than average gay then. If a man falls for a woman who he thought was a dude and finds out he's a she and still wants to fuck that's bi af. If a man had no interest in a woman when he though she was a he but finds her now attractive that's straight af. #it'sfiction#ifyoudon'twannafuckIRLtrap#havenodesireformen#younogay |
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| Well I mean one is biologically male and one is biologically female so... seems pretty obvious to me Tomboys are pretty popular amongst guys in general anyway |
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lady_freyja said: You should check sexuality in human history. Like in Ancient Rome where men sleeping with men was the norm, although not exclusively obviously. There was that emperor, who slept with only women, and it was considered as abnormal at that time. Ancient Greece was nice too. And I won't speak about the Edo period in Japan. In each case, the concepts of "heterosexuality", "homosexuality", "bisexuality" didn't exist. Without that kind of little box, people tend to have more open behaviors. Interesting, I'll read into that. As far as I know, these kinds of things happened towards the end of the civilisation, right before the crumble and implosion. But I haven't particularly seen any statistics on how rampant this kinds of things happen. If you have any links, do post btw. |
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Unfortunately, there are far too many individuals who would say that while being 100% serious, but I guess telling them wouldn't help much either, lol. I got rekt. |
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| i'm feel guilty by reading this topic because i'm already fap to anime traps recently |
BurningSpirit said: lady_freyja said: You should check sexuality in human history. Like in Ancient Rome where men sleeping with men was the norm, although not exclusively obviously. There was that emperor, who slept with only women, and it was considered as abnormal at that time. Ancient Greece was nice too. And I won't speak about the Edo period in Japan. In each case, the concepts of "heterosexuality", "homosexuality", "bisexuality" didn't exist. Without that kind of little box, people tend to have more open behaviors. Interesting, I'll read into that. As far as I know, these kinds of things happened towards the end of the civilisation, right before the crumble and implosion. But I haven't particularly seen any statistics on how rampant this kinds of things happen. If you have any links, do post btw. Here is an experiment on mice that supports your knowledge, it shows a link between population growth and social deviations (sexual deviations playing huge role), both ultimately lead to extinction. http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/22514/1/2308Ramadams.pdf There are incredible parallels between the described populations of mice and the current population of Japan, by the way, but not primarily concerning homosexuality, rather other sexual deviations. |
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AllanEdgarDoge said: First, you have to define gayness as a physical quantity to be able to talk about something being "more gay", "less gay"... so maybe if you come up with a definition, talking about it would make more sense. Askorti said: To elaborate, sexuality is not a binary system where 0 is straight and 1 is gay. It's a scale that goes from 100% (straight), through 50% (bisexual) to 0% (gay). (you can mirror the percentages, doesn't really matter) Nice concept mate, but nah. Remember genetics? Multifactorial inheritance of one sign? It's just like you've said in terms that different outcomes are distributed on the 0-100% scale, but if you are heterosexual, then you are 100% heterosexual (if your height is 180cm, you are not 190cm tall at the same time). Same goes for bisexuality and homosexuality. And heterosexuality is geneticaly by far the most prevalent outcome. Yes, the real outcome is heavily determined by your social environment, but that doesn't mean that a group of 3 magically becomes a spectrum. Too bad what you say doesn't seem to be in line with what we can observe in human behavior. A 100% straight person would never have any interest in the same gender and wouldn't find a person of the same gender attractive. The opposite with with gay people. A bi person would find both genders more or less equally attractive. But that's not how it actually is, is it? Straight people still often have some leanings towards the other side, but they aren't actually quite bisexual yet. Who knows if sexuality isn't partially affected by our upbringing and environment? Maybe the "setting" is genetic, like whether you're gay, straight or bi, but just where you are on the scale might be affected by the world around you. I would liken it to sexual preferences. You don't choose them, but they come from somewhere right? A person who grew in a certain place, with certain people will be affected by it when it comes to what they look for in a partner or an intercourse. I think this may, to a certain degree, affect sexuality too. Hypothetically, a straight man who grew up in a very liberal environment that encouraged freedom and acceptance might be more inclined to think about other men too, even though they're not "his thing". So he's straight, but not a 100% so. But those are just my thoughts, it's not like I have any hard evidence for that. It just makes sense to me and seems to be in line with what you can observe. |
| I have the same opinion as you OP, I don't think liking either of them is gay and I find reverse traps to be pretty attractive as well. |
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| Pretty sure it's gay if you have your ass penetrated by a dick; doesn't matter it's done by someone wearing female clothing and having feminine appearance |
| Guys are literally guys so traps are gayer. But there's nothing wrong with being gay. Sure the Vice President low key wants to electrocute you but keep in mind he's a bit wrong in the head. To tell the truth though, I think most trap lovers would fall into the category of girl leaning bisexuals. Khalan said: W-What if it's a girl with a fake dick?Pretty sure it's gay if you have your ass penetrated by a dick; doesn't matter it's done by someone wearing female clothing and having feminine appearance |
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AllanEdgarDoge said: Here is an experiment on mice that supports your knowledge, it shows a link between population growth and social deviations (sexual deviations playing huge role), both ultimately lead to extinction. http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/22514/1/2308Ramadams.pdf There are incredible parallels between the described populations of mice and the current population of Japan, by the way, but not primarily concerning homosexuality, rather other sexual deviations. Interesting read. I have to say however it is related more as a problem of overcrowding than an affirmative study of sexuality. To say that of the problem of overcrowding exists today in modern Japan would be a stretch. As the problem seems very psychological in nature, it's quite difficult to say for sure that people nowadays live in overcrowded conditions. Technology has allowed us to build high-rise buildings after all, I feel like my whole room in mine, though technically I share the same spot with at least 10 other people, one of whom could be jerking of right above me. However this problem seems to be something that could have plagued Ancient Rome, which by the collapse of the Western Roman empire was filled will perversion of many many kinds. |
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| It is gay if you like a trap knowing that there is a penis under all that character design. Reverse traps don't make you gay because their female - at least I think so, however if you're attracted to their looks as a male it makes you slightly gay. |
Askorti said: AllanEdgarDoge said: [/spoiler][spoiler]First, you have to define gayness as a physical quantity to be able to talk about something being "more gay", "less gay"... so maybe if you come up with a definition, talking about it would make more sense. Nice concept mate, but nah. Remember genetics? Multifactorial inheritance of one sign? It's just like you've said in terms that different outcomes are distributed on the 0-100% scale, but if you are heterosexual, then you are 100% heterosexual (if your height is 180cm, you are not 190cm tall at the same time). Same goes for bisexuality and homosexuality. And heterosexuality is geneticaly by far the most prevalent outcome. Yes, the real outcome is heavily determined by your social environment, but that doesn't mean that a group of 3 magically becomes a spectrum. Too bad what you say doesn't seem to be in line with what we can observe in human behavior. A 100% straight person would never have any interest in the same gender and wouldn't find a person of the same gender attractive. The opposite with with gay people. A bi person would find both genders more or less equally attractive. But that's not how it actually is, is it? Straight people still often have some leanings towards the other side, but they aren't actually quite bisexual yet. Uh... it is as weird as it sounds, but you can't find a person sexually attractive as a whole. What you find sexually attractive are signs which are usually connected to a certain gender... so yeah, even a straight person can find a person of a same gender sexually attractive if they meet the requirement of having those signs. That's why there are cases when people "get baited" into a situation where they are thinking sexually about a person with the same gender without having the knowledge of it. It's not like "oh, I just found out I'm gay because this curvy girl turned out to be a transgender". And I can't speak for others, but I have never thought about a male sexually in my life. It's just something that doesn't make sense to me personally. A I'm not a homophobe, even find gay couples cute, because I find happiness and love cute in general. I might be wrong, but I expect other heterosexuals to have similar mindsets in terms of preferences. So yeah. There are observable 100% heterosexual people out there. Askorti said: Who knows if sexuality isn't partially affected by our upbringing and environment? Maybe the "setting" is genetic, like whether you're gay, straight or bi, but just where you are on the scale might be affected by the world around you. I would liken it to sexual preferences. You don't choose them, but they come from somewhere right? A person who grew in a certain place, with certain people will be affected by it when it comes to what they look for in a partner or an intercourse. I think this may, to a certain degree, affect sexuality too. Hypothetically, a straight man who grew up in a very liberal environment that encouraged freedom and acceptance might be more inclined to think about other men too, even though they're not "his thing". So he's straight, but not a 100% so. I have literally said: "Yes, the real outcome is heavily determined by your social environment, but that doesn't mean that a group of 3 magically becomes a spectrum." So... yeah. The thing I'm trying to say is, that there is no middle ground. You are either heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual (if you are attracted to humans, that is). That doesn't mean it won't change depending on your surroundings and also in time (it is very common for example, that a person has blonde hair until their adolencence, when it slowly turns dark - sexuality is of course a much more complicated case with more enviromental than genetic influence, but it is a similar concept). But in a certain point of time, you are not XY% of a heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual, you are just one of them. If you have tendencies towards males but prefer girls, you are a bisexual. If you have the exact same preference for either, you are a bisexual. If you like boys more, but don't mind an intercourse with a girl, you are a bisexual. If you like girls and would not sleep with a guy even though you might find something about them cute, you are still a heterosexual until you feel like you would have sex with a guy. If you don't enjoy female company sexually you are a homosexual or an asexual, talking from a male perspective. You can measure the polarity the way you do it, yes, but the definitions should be set right. Askorti said: But those are just my thoughts, it's not like I have any hard evidence for that. It just makes sense to me and seems to be in line with what you can observe. Of course, if it works for you, I'm not here to flip your view. But I incline towards something more consensual that would fit the needs of describing the real situation rather than simplifying things for personal understanding based on subjective observation, even though that by itself might by the best view of things sometimes. |
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YeAhx said: Every thread is fetish discussion if you are brave enough. Everything is a fetish. If it's rare, it's labelled a fetish. If it's common, it's a taste. It's surprisingly the same thing. |
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| Interesting question. I guess liking both of them (sexually) is equally gay, because both of them have androginous qualities, who is the thing you find atractive of them in the the first place. |
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BurningSpirit said: Interesting read. I have to say however it is related more as a problem of overcrowding than an affirmative study of sexuality. To say that of the problem of overcrowding exists today in modern Japan would be a stretch. As the problem seems very psychological in nature, it's quite difficult to say for sure that people nowadays live in overcrowded conditions. Technology has allowed us to build high-rise buildings after all, I feel like my whole room in mine, though technically I share the same spot with at least 10 other people, one of whom could be jerking of right above me. However this problem seems to be something that could have plagued Ancient Rome, which by the collapse of the Western Roman empire was filled will perversion of many many kinds. You are right, this problem is related more to overcrowding, but that is an actual issue in modern society (sorry, no time to search for criticized articles, but there is plenty of them about estimates, related to habitable space it was around 9 billion, and we have crossed the 7 billion mark - note: mice issues started at 2200 even though there was space and resources for 3000 of them...) so I think it is applicable here. You have to see the bigger picture of overcrowding, which is social saturation. Social roles are pretty much all taken already and people feel out of the place. It is pretty simple, really, the more people you have for the same space, the less worthy one individual feels. Growing vertically with buildings to create more space solves very little, because the effective social capacity doesn't get higher as well. Efficient government and overall cooperation between people partialy solves the problem, but it only slows the raise of different deviations, because we are still very competitive and self centered, which was great for surviving, but not sustaining, and our biology can't adapt that fast. (That's why obligatory communities like bees or ants don't feel that much drawback from space overcrowding, by the way, even though tribes are still very competitive, societies are a unit ... but unlike us, bees and ants have their ultimate social dependence coded in their DNA). To sum it up, I think current demography and socioeconomical situation of 1st world social groups heavily influences homosexuality and other social deviations. I wouldn't present it as a pure fact, but evidence from evolution biologists as well as cancer researchers - you would be surprised how much cancerogenesis and current socioeconomical and political situation have in common - and the infromation we have from historians (I don't have any background in history, so can't be too certain about this) support my opinion. |
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lady_freyja said: The penetratee wasn't exactly looked on favourably however. Just saying.BurningSpirit said: I think that in general what you said is more true for females. It's more likely a straight female will go for a lesbian relationship if they feel like they connect emotionally with another girl. More often for males, straight guys will never even consider stepping into a gay relationship. They physically can't feel sexually aroused by another man. You should check sexuality in human history. Like in Ancient Rome where men sleeping with men was the norm, although not exclusively obviously. There was that emperor, who slept with only women, and it was considered as abnormal at that time. Ancient Greece was nice too. And I won't speak about the Edo period in Japan. In each case, the concepts of "heterosexuality", "homosexuality", "bisexuality" didn't exist. Without that kind of little box, people tend to have more open behaviors. |
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