| If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? |
| this is not for anime.. u shuld read the manga Shamo |
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Cummdog123 said: It's because of honor, if you want a character like that cheer for the bad guy. (I know what you mean though)If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? |
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ShinjiIsBestGirl said: Cummdog123 said: It's because of honor, if you want a character like that cheer for the bad guy. (I know what you mean though)If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? I just get dumbfounded when characters are getting owned and they don't do everything they can to beat another character |
| It'd be boring if the final fight ended with a kick to the balls right? Why make a Chinese cartoon if you're not going to fight like the Chinese? |
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| Maybe the episodes would be too short? Maybe they have honor? Beats me |
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Cummdog123 said: It's too build up tension and shit so the audience can more invested in the fight and shit...ShinjiIsBestGirl said: It's because of honor, if you want a character like that cheer for the bad guy. (I know what you mean though) I just get dumbfounded when characters are getting owned and they don't do everything they can to beat another character |
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Selenium_Thorium said: I guess you've never seen Fate/Zero. It is on my plan to watch though, maybe i will watch that next! |
| Because anime is Japanese, and in Japan, honor/honour is very important. |
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| 1. Honor 2. Why would I root for someone who only wins because he kicks sand in his opponents eyes or deliberately handicaps them to the point where they can't win? That's a villain trait. also: The_Nico said: Because WWE is gay, and so are you, OP. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
The_Nico said: Because WWE is gay, and so are you, OP. Ouch, that insult really hurt my feelings. Next thing you're gonna say a 'your mumma so fat' joke right? Wish i was that intellectual and original when it came to insulting others. RainyRai said: 1. Honor 2. Why would I root for someone who only wins because he kicks sand in his opponents eyes or deliberately handicaps them to the point where they can't win? That's a villain trait. smh. Its not about winning or losing, its about doing everything you can to not die, i mean if you or I were in a life or death situation i would definitely fight dirty if i had no hope of winning and i believe you would too. |
Cummdog123 said: The_Nico said: Because WWE is gay, and so are you, OP. Ouch, that insult really hurt my feelings. Next thing you're gonna say a 'your mumma so fat' joke right? Wish i was that intellectual and original when it came to insulting others. RainyRai said: 1. Honor 2. Why would I root for someone who only wins because he kicks sand in his opponents eyes or deliberately handicaps them to the point where they can't win? That's a villain trait. smh. Its not about winning or losing, its about doing everything you can to not die, i mean if you or I were in a life or death situation i would definitely fight dirty if i had no hope of winning and i believe you would too. Yeah, but you don't want to see the guy who got his ass whooped and wasn't nearly as strong as the other guy win just because he played dirty and caught the other guy off guard. He didn't earn the win because of skill he earned it because he wasn't playing fair. In real life it's different obviously, because survival is wanted. In anime though, you don't want to root for that guy, you want to see a fair clean fight where the guy you support wins because they deserved it. And again, honor is a very important part regarding this. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| Dirty characters fight dirty. Our goody goody MCs can't do that because it's immoral! |
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| You should check out Now and Then, Here and There. There's one particular scene that feels like a real fight, and it's with a girl. |
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| I think it depends more on the target audience..... which is more exoected to be tennagers or so.. thus depicting a message of rightfulness and honor |
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| Only bad guys fight dirty because they are eeeeviiiiiiiil. |
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| Because almost all main characters are like John Cena , THE KIDS HERO |
| Because they want to win honorably.. Although I'd like to see some anime where honor is thrown out the window and it's a free for all.. |
| BAHAHAHA the Japanese r too good actually idk |
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OtakuDaikun said: You should check out Now and Then, Here and There. There's one particular scene that feels like a real fight, and it's with a girl. If you're talking about episode 6, I know what you're talkin' 'bout. Fun Fact: I first bought the series on dubbed VHS tapes at a bookstore that was going out of business. Though, when I say "bought the series," I secretly mean "the only tapes they had," which secretly means "episodes 6 through 13." That scene was my introduction to the series. And it hooked me instantly. The first 5 episodes are nice and all, once I finally saw them, but THAT'S how you start watching a series, man! |
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| There's a fight like that in Scryed. Unfortunately it's towards the end of the series, but it's one of the most memorable anime fights I've seen because of how grotesque it gets. |
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| nobody mention joseph joester? i though mal love jojo... i think they shared fair amount for country like japan that put honor above everything... we talking about country who prefer killing himself rather than bring shame to their name.. and wound in back sign for cowardness because look like warrior who run from battle... |
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lasterrending said: Not every anime hero fights honorably. Case in point: Issei from High School DxD. BEST FINISHING MOVE EVER! I rest my case. That"s a WHOLE different kinda of dirty though. |
Cummdog123 said: If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? The way I understand it: 1) dirty tricks work either in a fight between two people who are bad in fighting (like two ordinary girls in a romantic anime), or against somebody who learned all his fighting in a sports context and does not expect any dirty tricks. Any worthy opponent knows all those tricks and will defend against them well enough. 2) In a fight for your life, it's better to stick to things you have practiced a lot. Improvised tricks would not be as effective. 3) Frankly, anime is entertainment. It wants to show us a good-looking fight, and that's what it does. |
| I guess because Japanese people values honor a lot or something. However, even in the shonen animes there are characters who fight dirty and that, so that it's not something that strange. |
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TheDeadApostle said: It'd be boring if the final fight ended with a kick to the balls right? Why make a Chinese cartoon if you're not going to fight like the Chinese? Ixion saga DT is the anime name |
| Well, as someone suggested above, you have Kiritsugu Emiya who doesn't give a shit about honor. You also have the great villain Raou from Hokuto no Ken who "does anything" it takes to achieve his goal. What I like about these two is that they both develop their point of view about "Honor" throughout the story. |
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| Speaking of examples, Adlet from Rokka no Yuusha is all about tricks. But it's usually on the level of "trick sword that actually spills caltrops", not on the level of "kick to the nuts". That works better. |
| Cause all the fun is seeing people watching fair and squre? It's difficult to love someone who cheats or plays dirty all the time. That's why most of those who play ditry, are the "villains." |
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| Taigong-Wang from Hôshin Engi would be a potential choice for you, if only the anime wasn't an indigestible mess. You might want to try the first volume of the manga though. |
Cummdog123 said: If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? Adlet from Rokka no Yuusha clearly fights with every tricks in the book. This goes from poison, bombs and traps to sand in the eyes, taking peoples in hostage, and the like. |
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Zefyris said: Cummdog123 said: If I'm in a fight for my life, I would personally use every dirty trick in the book. So what i don't understand is in semi serious shows, where we the user are meant to relate to, why not scratch, bite, pull hair and kick male characters in the unmentionables?? Adlet from Rokka no Yuusha clearly fights with every tricks in the book. And he looks pretty awesome doing it!! so my point is why isn't this implemented more in anime i guess. be cool to see characters try and actually use little tricks to win instead of just power and friendship beats everything |
Cummdog123 said: And he looks pretty awesome doing it!! so my point is why isn't this implemented more in anime i guess. be cool to see characters try and actually use little tricks to win instead of just power and friendship beats everything Lots of peoples who watched didn't like his dirty way to fight AFAIK. So well, if it's not popular, there's little chance to have lots of those, I suppose? I agree with you, but it doesn't seem like something peoples like comapred to the -for me- super-boring power of friendship. |
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Zefyris said: Cummdog123 said: And he looks pretty awesome doing it!! so my point is why isn't this implemented more in anime i guess. be cool to see characters try and actually use little tricks to win instead of just power and friendship beats everything Lots of peoples who watched didn't like his dirty way to fight AFAIK. So well, if it's not popular, there's little chance to have lots of those, I suppose? I agree with you, but it doesn't seem like something peoples like comapred to the -for me- super-boring power of friendship. Yeah i guess its not that popular :'( yeah my favourite trope in anime is 'getting owned by some random, then mc thinks oh i need to win cause fwends and gets a massive power up...' |
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Cummdog123 said: Because their moms wash their clothes regularly.Why don't anime characters fight dirty?? |
| theres always kiritsugu at least |
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RainyRai said: Cummdog123 said: Ouch, that insult really hurt my feelings. Next thing you're gonna say a 'your mumma so fat' joke right? Wish i was that intellectual and original when it came to insulting others. smh. Its not about winning or losing, its about doing everything you can to not die, i mean if you or I were in a life or death situation i would definitely fight dirty if i had no hope of winning and i believe you would too. Yeah, but you don't want to see the guy who got his ass whooped and wasn't nearly as strong as the other guy win just because he played dirty and caught the other guy off guard. He didn't earn the win because of skill he earned it because he wasn't playing fair. In real life it's different obviously, because survival is wanted. In anime though, you don't want to root for that guy, you want to see a fair clean fight where the guy you support wins because they deserved it. And again, honor is a very important part regarding this. How did he not earn the win?..last I checked, a fight doesn't have any rules outside of beating your opponents before he beats you. I'd rather have characters use their brains instead of their fist since it makes things more unpredictable compared to the other approach... |
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