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sn3akyk1d said:
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Still really appreciating the fact that we got an MC that has got his shit together. It's just something I must emphasize.


It can't have been actual steel. Historically the Japanese didn't even have proper steel for their weapons, which is precisely why they came up with such a sublime way of working it. In any case, building structures of that size, on that scale, out of steel, even with some limited access to imported raw materials, would have been out of the question, at least untill well into the 20th century, let alone before that.

By the way, judging by Suzuki's hairstyle, we're in the end of the 18th, early 19th century at the very latest. I wonder if we'll ever get an explanation as to how the American ended up there, and was called Suzuki.


I always suspected we had a hidden gem right there. That's what you call a true hardbody, damn! Girl of the season.


Looking at the size of the building the train was inside of there was nowhere near enough space to gain any speed let alone to gain enough to break down the door and for the train to come out of it undamaged. I won't mention the way they managed to find and dig out the MC's while putting the cannon on the train and how the zombies conveniently disappeared when the plot deemed it necessary.



Well, from this image you posted, it seems that the buiding is placed at the entrance of the fortress, staying between the inside and the outside. Taking that into consideration, it is possible that they retreated a little out from the fortress in other to gain the necessary speed when they charged back.
HyperLMay 21, 2016 9:50 PM
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That was a really good episode. for me at least
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GhostlyWest said:
We gotta go faster!



Just gonna leave this here...


The Yukina x Sukari ship is sailing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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HyperL said:
sn3akyk1d said:


Looking at the size of the building the train was inside of there was nowhere near enough space to gain any speed let alone to gain enough to break down the door and for the train to come out of it undamaged. I won't mention the way they managed to find and dig out the MC's while putting the cannon on the train and how the zombies conveniently disappeared when the plot deemed it necessary.



Well, from this image you posted, it seems that the buiding is placed at the entrance of the fortress, staying between the inside and the outside. Taking that into consideration, it is possible that they retreated a little out from the fortress in other to gain the necessary speed when they charged back.


Possibly but what I took from it was that it was a fully sealed building and they managed to gain the speed inside. Otherwise what was the use of hiding in the building if the monster could have simply climbed over it and killed them from behind.
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suddenly the train and mumei were saved offscreen, the train even got upgraded somehow offscreen probably a wizard did it all. then the idiots pushed the train from the inside, Newton will be mad it worked.
Lol at the fanservice part, was there any reason to release clothes to do what she did?
Combining zombies, so silly. lol.
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Darklight0303 said:
And again when you run over a field of Kabane in one charge, stuff will break and get under the wheels and maybe gets stuck in something. It's not impossible. =_= You're being ridiculous.


Of course it's not impossible, it's just super convenient, as everything in this show.

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The place Ikoma was attacked, if you didn't notice, was HIS OWN WORKSHOP.


No, which was as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there, since he had everything ready already, huh!

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Mizusi said:
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The place Ikoma was attacked, if you didn't notice, was HIS OWN WORKSHOP.

No, which was as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there, since he had everything ready already, huh!
Okay, so you did pay attention? Fine, no reason to throw insults around. But then you should also know the REASON he was attacked there is because he lured them there with his trial of blood. I wouldn't call that situation "as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there."

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HyperL said:
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Considering how many Kabane were run over before they even retrieved Ikoma and Mumei it's not that unlikely.


And it doesn't matter much how Ikoma was able to wrap the ropes because that was not what saved her, it was a useless effort, so having that scene or not doesn't have any more purpose than to show Ikoma was giving his all to save her.
I agree it doesn't matter much but adds to the things that are made just for the sake of it. This episode some relevant things were done off-screen which is not good.
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No, which was as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there, since he had everything ready already, huh!
Okay, so you did pay attention? Fine, no reason to throw insults around. But then you should also know the REASON he was attacked there is because he lured them there with his trial of blood. I wouldn't call that situation "as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there."
The Kabane followed his blood trail even though there was much more blood in the city (however this is more of a weak justification than convenience). However it was quite convenient that only one Kabane came in all that time since he cut himself to when his friend arrived. Also the way the Kabane waits for Ikoma to shot with his gun could be called convenient but this issue is persistent throughout the whole current story.

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Darklight0303 said:
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And now we find out who this show's ripoff of Mikasa is.



You can't be serious. So did that one lady from Terra formars rip off Mikasa too? =_=


Michelle K Davis slaughters lame mikasa in the body/muscle department.

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zal said:
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Okay, so you did pay attention? Fine, no reason to throw insults around. But then you should also know the REASON he was attacked there is because he lured them there with his trial of blood. I wouldn't call that situation "as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there."
The Kabane followed his blood trail even though there was much more blood in the city (however this is more of a weak justification than convenience). However it was quite convenient that only one Kabane came in all that time since he cut himself to when his friend arrived. Also the way the Kabane waits for Ikoma to shot with his gun could be called convenient but this issue is persistent throughout the whole current story.
It didn't matter that there was more blood in the city, because there was very fresh blood right in front of it. Anyway...I'm not going to continue arguing with you about convenience in the story. When you have 12 episodes to work with (each one being the exact same number of seconds), you want the OST to fit well with what's being shown, etc., YES there are going to have to be conveniences for the plot to work. For some people, those conveniences ruin everything. For me they don't.

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Phoebe3315 said:
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The Kabane followed his blood trail even though there was much more blood in the city (however this is more of a weak justification than convenience). However it was quite convenient that only one Kabane came in all that time since he cut himself to when his friend arrived. Also the way the Kabane waits for Ikoma to shot with his gun could be called convenient but this issue is persistent throughout the whole current story.
It didn't matter that there was more blood in the city, because there was very fresh blood right in front of it. Anyway...I'm not going to continue arguing with you about convenience in the story. When you have 12 episodes to work with (each one being the exact same number of seconds), you want the OST to fit well with what's being shown, etc., YES there are going to have to be conveniences for the plot to work. For some people, those conveniences ruin everything. For me they don't.
I have no problem with that, at least you are not in complete denial like youknowwho0303.

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HyperL said:
Well, everytime i rewatch that scene, i notice that the train was already going quite fast when it passed through. Now, do you know of any metals weaker than steel that a speedy Iron train would be able to destroy?

Is it necessarily completely steel or even iron? The gate shatters when the Koutestujou rams through it, so that's not very metal-like behavior.

Could it be an iron-reinforced wooden gate? I know the color is pretty uniform, but the design is reminiscent of the gates used in Japanese castles (like http://www.japanese-castle-explorer.com/pictures/Odawara12.jpg).

Edit: I suspect it actually might be, if we take cultural expectations into consideration. A Japanese viewer might see that sort of gate and automatically associate it with a wooden gate because they would have been exposed to it through their school curriculum, so the writers didn't need to sit there and explain what the gate is made of and why it behaved that way, whereas we see a metal slab and raise out eyebrows at the scene because we lack that perspective.
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sn3akyk1d said:
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Well, from this image you posted, it seems that the buiding is placed at the entrance of the fortress, staying between the inside and the outside. Taking that into consideration, it is possible that they retreated a little out from the fortress in other to gain the necessary speed when they charged back.


Possibly but what I took from it was that it was a fully sealed building and they managed to gain the speed inside. Otherwise what was the use of hiding in the building if the monster could have simply climbed over it and killed them from behind.

I'm not debating that with you, I never intend to join that discussion. I'm just saying the doors were not made of steel.

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Could it be an iron-reinforced wooden gate? I know the color is pretty uniform, but the design is reminiscent of the gates used in Japanese castles (like http://www.japanese-castle-explorer.com/pictures/Odawara12.jpg).

In short: YES

I've allready explained why it couldn't really have been steel, and the uniformity of the color could easily be explained if they just upped the surface area of the wood covered by iron. Having steel doors would also just have been overkill. It's not gonna protect you better against something like kabane than an iron reïnforced door would, and in fact creates far more problems than it solves (primarily in the area of weight). Uniform, but thin iron plating could keep the kabane from clawing/digging through the wood, without being there to provide any real structural strength to the doors.




Phoebe3315 said:
Mizusi said:

No, which was as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there, since he had everything ready already, huh!
Okay, so you did pay attention? Fine, no reason to throw insults around. But then you should also know the REASON he was attacked there is because he lured them there with his trial of blood. I wouldn't call that situation "as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there."

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Also, it was his bloody house and personal workshop. It made complete sense for the machine to be there, it made complete sense for him to be there, and it made complete sense for that kabane to be there.

Finally, he actually still needed a fair bit of time to set it up, after he was bitten.
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You can't be serious. So did that one lady from Terra formars rip off Mikasa too? =_=


Michelle K Davis slaughters lame mikasa in the body/muscle department.

The comparison between Yukina and Mikasa is completely laughable. If there is one thing that does not support the SnK and KnK comparison, it's KnK's lack of a Mary Sue female and/or friend (combined with a wavering MC). Ikoma has his shit together, like I said before, and the last few episodes clearly showed Mumei's 'flaws'. Yukina is a side character with no direct relation to any of the main cast.
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We gotta go faster!



Worked for me. Pressure sure went up.

ernst said:
then the idiots pushed the train from the inside, Newton will be mad it worked.

Pushing won't work. An ignoramus telling ignorant people to push, so incidentally at least they stay as close to the side of the carriage as possible, actually might.
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I liked the last part. The fight and song is so amazing !!
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Am i the only one who loled at Ikuma trying to move a huge rock?
Well the episode was fine, i expected more when i saw people's reaction to it.
The OST is getting pretty good.
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Intense episode. I think that, regardless of whether this is AOTS, this show for sure has the best animation of the season. Even with the CGI that's still wonky, they work it in very well.
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Thug_Gou said:
GhostlyWest said:
We gotta go faster!



Just gonna leave this here...


The Yukina x Sukari ship is sailing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Congratulation!! You just make me looks like a crazy guy in public!!
An awesome episode, like the ost they use in train fight.
whose the girl with blue heart?? is she Mumei's friend?? the cloth looks similar...
too bad this is 12 episode...
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michaelh19 said:
Thug_Gou said:

Just gonna leave this here...


The Yukina x Sukari ship is sailing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Congratulation!! You just make me looks like a crazy guy in public!!
An awesome episode, like the ost they use in train fight.
whose the girl with blue heart?? is she Mumei's friend?? the cloth looks similar...
too bad this is 12 episode...

LOL
It's unknown, but people speculated that it was part of Mumei's organization, but not necessarily the girl on the flashback cause she had a different hairstyle.
Yeah, it's so so so sad </3 :(

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, just what it needed to be taken more seriously.
She is just 12. How does that sound now? Lol


Sounds AWSOME !!!! Seriously chill the fuck out.
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I don't get why people question and nitpick the train and that pushing scene soo much. Suddenly everyone thinks they're engineers or Japanese historians. How about you question WHY THERE ARE FRICKIN ZOMBIES WITH IRON HEARTS. It's an alternate industrial revolution people, pretty much anything goes at this point jesus lol
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I don't get why people question and nitpick the train and that pushing scene soo much. Suddenly everyone thinks they're engineers or Japanese historians. How about you question WHY THERE ARE FRICKIN ZOMBIES WITH IRON HEARTS. It's an alternate industrial revolution people, pretty much anything goes at this point jesus lol


It has to do with suspeciion of disbelief, since this show is about zombie apocalypse, the features of the zombie or whatever they make up for it would make sense in context of the story for viewer. Same can't be said about characters pushing the train from the inside to make it tip a certain direction, this being a fantasy zombie show does not excuse it.
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HalAnime said:
I don't get why people question and nitpick the train and that pushing scene soo much. Suddenly everyone thinks they're engineers or Japanese historians. How about you question WHY THERE ARE FRICKIN ZOMBIES WITH IRON HEARTS. It's an alternate industrial revolution people, pretty much anything goes at this point jesus lol


There's not much point in discussing why do the zombies exist because everybody knows the anime will explain it at some point, whether this season or in a second season or god knows when. The fact is that there is not enough information to go about theorizing about it yet, so there's no conclusion to reach. Instead, people prefer discussing the things that can reach a conclusion at this point with enough logic and knowledge, because we already have enough material to work with. Also, most discussions here start with a conplain about some scene in the anime. If that conplain is not a dumb one born from lack of attention and laziness to put your brains to work, a discussion can be quite fun.
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Somebody may have mentioned this, but this episode to some extent is comparable with the 6th episode of Evangelion. Like the accurate shot against Black Smoke's weak point. 1st one was a miss, then the next one was hit.

If only Megumi Ogata had the opportunity to voice Yuki Kaji's character, that would've been hilarious.
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HyperL said:
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I don't get why people question and nitpick the train and that pushing scene soo much. Suddenly everyone thinks they're engineers or Japanese historians. How about you question WHY THERE ARE FRICKIN ZOMBIES WITH IRON HEARTS. It's an alternate industrial revolution people, pretty much anything goes at this point jesus lol


There's not much point in discussing why do the zombies exist because everybody knows the anime will explain it at some point, whether this season or in a second season or god knows when. The fact is that there is not enough information to go about theorizing about it yet, so there's no conclusion to reach. Instead, people prefer discussing the things that can reach a conclusion at this point with enough logic and knowledge, because we already have enough material to work with. Also, most discussions here start with a conplain about some scene in the anime. If that conplain is not a dumb one born from lack of attention and laziness to put your brains to work, a discussion can be quite fun.
I don't even care for the Kabane explanation, I want the explanation for the iron heart.
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Somebody may have mentioned this, but this episode to some extent is comparable with the 6th episode of Evangelion. Like the accurate shot against Black Smoke's weak point. 1st one was a miss, then the next one was hit.

If only Megumi Ogata had the opportunity to voice Yuki Kaji's character, that would've been hilarious.
No one mentioned it yet, or so I think. Missing one shot adds to the tension and increases the sensation of danger so it was a fine choice.

Careful because here it is dangerous to compare KnK with other shows.
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zal said:
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And it doesn't matter much how Ikoma was able to wrap the ropes because that was not what saved her, it was a useless effort, so having that scene or not doesn't have any more purpose than to show Ikoma was giving his all to save her.
I agree it doesn't matter much but adds to the things that are made just for the sake of it. This episode some relevant things were done off-screen which is not good.
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Okay, so you did pay attention? Fine, no reason to throw insults around. But then you should also know the REASON he was attacked there is because he lured them there with his trial of blood. I wouldn't call that situation "as convenient as possible for him to be attacked there."
The Kabane followed his blood trail even though there was much more blood in the city (however this is more of a weak justification than convenience). However it was quite convenient that only one Kabane came in all that time since he cut himself to when his friend arrived. Also the way the Kabane waits for Ikoma to shot with his gun could be called convenient but this issue is persistent throughout the whole current story.

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@zal , now from what we can take from both the blood chasing in the first episode and the fused colony in this one, we can conclude that kabanes in general goes not to where there's more blood, but simply to the closest blood. It's like a magnet, the closer the blood the more attracted they will be to it.
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Thank you very much Mr Predicto
For giving us the power to see through the next scene

The saving and atmosphere turnaround was too quick

But yeah it's impossible not to be enchanted by the sheer style the animation oozes...
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ernst said:
then the idiots pushed the train from the inside, Newton will be mad it worked.


The pushing wouldn't have done much, but getting on one side of a tilting sailboat to balance it out is standard, and the same would have worked for the train.



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This episode had me until the last minute



Like, no

A single train car like that would weigh like 20 tons at the very least


Actually that would work, especially since those rail cars are packed with survivors. 50 people at an average of about 160 pounds (more for men, less for women) is 4 tons. That much shifting cargo would have an effect.


This guy said it already.
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Glad ,this episode finally stops the deterioration of the anime,it's at least a little step forward.
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Since I haven't seen anyone else give any possible reason for Yukari to take her clothes off, here's a thought:

Assuming she's in the boiler room it must be really hot. She's about to increase the pressure limit on their steam engines. Higher pressure on the water increases its boiling temperature, meaning that the boilers will get a whole lot hotter than they already are, thus she pulls her jacket off before she gets blasted by the increased heat. Which winds up not happening when it's jammed and doesn't actually work.

Even though it's obviously just fanservice, there's a sort of reasonable theory for why she stripped.
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Since I haven't seen anyone else give any possible reason for Yukari to take her clothes off, here's a thought:

Assuming she's in the boiler room it must be really hot. She's about to increase the pressure limit on their steam engines. Higher pressure on the water increases its boiling temperature, meaning that the boilers will get a whole lot hotter than they already are, thus she pulls her jacket off before she gets blasted by the increased heat. Which winds up not happening when it's jammed and doesn't actually work.

Even though it's obviously just fanservice, there's a sort of reasonable theory for why she stripped.


You even see her dabbing at her brow afterwards because of her sweating.
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Hot damn! It's been a while since I've watched Kabaneri and it's pretty amazing. Definitely the best anime of the season.
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Best episode yet, in my opinion - such a shame we're already halfway through this series... And there's so much that is yet to be explained.

Let's hope we don't have a repeat of SnK and we don't have to wait three years for the next season.
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I made the mistake of watching this before I went to sleep
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I am glad they were able to kill that thing!
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Loved the episode! The soundtrack was pretty good, and the build up to the action-packed combat was awesome!
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Per usual, the soundtrack is outstanding. The animation is also as good as ever and the giant CG monster didn't look bad honestly, contrary to some the complaints I've seen about it.

Ripped Yukine was one of my favorite parts.

The dialogue between characters is also really entertaining. Ikoma's "If you die, don't blame it on the weapon" line to Kurusu was golden.

My only big gripe with the show at this point is the choreography of Ikoma's fighting style. It's so bad compared to everything else in the show.
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A single train car like that would weigh like 20 tons at the very least[/quote]

Actually that would work, especially since those rail cars are packed with survivors. 50 people at an average of about 160 pounds (more for men, less for women) is 4 tons. That much shifting cargo would have an effect.[/quote]

This guy said it already.[/quote]

Yeah, the frames showed all the main cast pushing but we have to realize there's a lot of people in the remaining passengers cars. Doesn't seem farfetched.
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Yukina is so strong *.*
Great episode, Mumei is back to normal. The action was beautiful, especially the part with Kurusu
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Time to release the pressure limiter.. *strips* Those abs.. oh yes nice one.
Some ally of justice talk and self sacrificing.. nothing much but still love the soundtracks and fights.
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Enjoyed almost every bit of this episode to the best. People may be hating on it, but this anime is giving it's all to be as great as it could.
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This episode was intense. F'ing awesome. (Ignoring that it makes litteraly NO sense at all...)

And was I the only one who leant over during the derailing-scene xD

But the CG... THE CG WAS SO BAD... SO BAD... SO... BAAAD!
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Loved the episode! The soundtrack was pretty good, and the build up to the action-packed combat was awesome!


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Loved the episode! The soundtrack was pretty good, and the build up to the action-packed combat was awesome!


Anime is def a fun and exciting watch. Sidenot but had to comment, i love your From The New World banner~


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Um, Yukina best (supporting) girl!

I was gonna post this exact same image :p

But damn! Yukina is ripped!
All those hours shovelling coal and pulling big steam-punk levers is really paying off.


I did not realized she was so well....in shape. Reminds me of Mikasa.
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Must be a wehraboo on the production team who decided to base the reticule off of that used on German WW2 tanks.

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I still have fears about this show.

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Must be a wehraboo on the production team who decided to base the reticule off of that used on German WW2 tanks.

Is that a problem?

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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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