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Jun 6, 2008 6:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I wonder if Reuental will get a fancy nickname like Muller? He pulled out a metal spike that impaled him and continued to maintain command even after major blood loss and passing out several times. That's got to be worth something even if he's an enemy of the Empire.

I figured Grillpalzer lost his nerve but his second defection came far too late. Knapfstein lost his life following Grillpalzer's plans. It would have been a major disservice to his sacrifice if Grillpalzer were to remain unscathed.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
 
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Jun 25, 2008 7:27 PM

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So many good lines. Reuental telling his subordinate, in a completely calm voice and with a spike sticking out of his shoulder, that it was inappropriate for him to scream when his commanding officer is injured.



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Aug 19, 2008 11:32 PM

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Reuental... what an awesome guy. It's too bad the narrator has told us like...19 times that he's going to die.
 
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If you weren't paying attention to the first 96 episodes, this episode reinforced the fact on how manly Reuental is. He was impaled by a giant spike, and without even a flinch, pulled it out himself and reprimanded his subordinate for screaming.

Reuenthal has secured his place as my favorite Galactic Heroes character.

 
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Aug 25, 2009 1:02 PM
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Osaka117 said:
If you weren't paying attention to the first 96 episodes, this episode reinforced the fact on how manly Reuental is. He was impaled by a giant spike, and without even a flinch, pulled it out himself and reprimanded his subordinate for screaming.

Reuenthal has secured his place as my favorite Galactic Heroes character.


Reuenthal, a true Galactic Hero....It's just sad that so many lives were sacrificed just because of the Terraist and one single man's scheming....

Again, this episode left me speechless. I don't even know what to say about this episode anymore. It was just...awesome....
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Osaka117 said:
If you weren't paying attention to the first 96 episodes, this episode reinforced the fact on how manly Reuental is. He was impaled by a giant spike, and without even a flinch, pulled it out himself and reprimanded his subordinate for screaming.

Reuenthal has secured his place as my favorite Galactic Heroes character.


Fuck. What a badass. That is all I have to say.
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Mittermeyer seems to have survived kissing his wife goodbye and telling her not to worry. Still, he's not home yet!
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Dec 24, 2009 2:40 PM

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Reuenthal FTW! Definitely one of my favourite characters.
 
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Jan 12, 2010 9:47 PM

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Good to see Norio Wakamoto still being a badass in his somewhat younger days.
 
Jan 23, 2010 3:31 PM

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Mecklinger is in my opinion on even terms with awesomeness with Reuenthal :D
Too bad he has such a little role in LoTGH.
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Jan 24, 2010 6:17 AM

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But he has a stupid haircut though.
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Feb 3, 2010 2:37 PM

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But he has a stupid haircut though.

/fail.

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Mittermeyer seems to have survived kissing his wife goodbye and telling her not to worry. Still, he's not home yet!

lmao thats also true) seeing that scene was a hint that he will die ))
tho he's winning now...
 
Feb 15, 2010 11:42 PM

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Stupid haircut or not, Mecklinger showed how great a person he is in the way he handled the whole Grillpalzer situation.

Reuenthal is such an incredible man that even when he got impaled, all he did was sit up and pull that sharp rod out without so much as a complaint.

It's incredibly sad that he should have to fall to one man's impure ambitions.
 
May 12, 2010 6:47 PM

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Reuenthal is total badass.

I like Mecklinger's campy stache and hair. He's a great character with refined tastes and compassion and having a very manly voice, to boot.
 
Jul 5, 2010 6:47 PM

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Reuentall was really awesome this episode, too bad he probably won't make it through the next episode :/.
And Grillpalzer got what he deserved. And I sure hope Mecklinger decides to tell Mittermeyer and Reinhard about the Terraists. It would hurt their pride, but they should know who the real enemy is.


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Sep 26, 2010 6:38 AM

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Reuenthal was full of dignity through all this episode. It is so unfair that his exceeding pride led him to rebel against Lohengramm.

Again, I discovered a good side of Mecklinger, who is too under-exposed in LOGH when regarding his abilities, inboth commanding and statements. I wonder why he hesitates so much to tell the truth about the Terrraists being behind the assasination attempt.

But then again, wow... Reuenthal is a hell of a character.
 
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Mecklinger seems to be on par with Reuenthal regarding rationality and cool-headedness. I can't deny that Reuenthal has proven manliness that puts Chuck Norris to shame, but what surprised me was how spot-on Mecklinger was about everything. I have to admit I'd sort of ignored him until now. All I remember from before is how he was strategically forced by Yang to back off and seal the exit of Iserlohn cooridor, which didn't give us much idea of his abilities beyond the fact that he's not an idiot. I hope we get to see more of Mecklinger in the future.
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Reuenthal is so badass that he even deceived narrator's predictions!:)
i'm glad he gets to live for another episode...now i'm wondering what will happen to him

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I don't get the logic of this show anymore.

It's bad being the traitor of a TRAITOR but it's ok to sacrifice millions of soldier just to prove a point.
 
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I don't get the logic of this show anymore.

It's bad being the traitor of a TRAITOR but it's ok to sacrifice millions of soldier just to prove a point.


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Jan 16, 2011 10:37 PM

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Damn, Reuental is badass!

 
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Great battle overall. The lower-tier admirals like Bayerlain and Grillpalzer were typically worthless, while Bittenfield, Wahlen, and Mittermeyer were awesome.

And then Reuenthal. DAMN.

Still, as much as he kicks ass, Reuenthal is pathetic from a historical perspective. He was overtly manipulated into wasting the Empire's military potential and his own life. Considering Lang would've been arrested anyway thanks to Hilde, and Mittermeyer stomped the rebels so hard that Reinhard didn't even need to show up, there was absolutely nothing gained.
 
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Seabury said:
I can't deny that Reuenthal has proven manliness that puts Chuck Norris to shame


I love the discussion here.

Also, the series. Cool ep like always.
 
Oct 22, 2011 3:57 PM

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Reuental is such a boss " I'm just gonna pull this metal bar from my chest, while having my legs immobilized by a throne and my subordinate is behind me screaming like a little girl"

When Grilpalzer and knapfstein first appeared, i thought they could became the second generation of twin admirals like wolf and reuenthal, but in the end such a disappointment...
 
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Sad how many people, driven by their loyalty to Reuntal, share in his suffering by condemning themselves to death as traitors to the Empire, all because of the actions Reuntal took that were caused by his own personal problems and feelings of self-hatred that weren't even caused by a fault of his own in the first place, but rather the fault of his parent(s)

Sins of the father indeed.

Also, alongside the obvious Reuntal and Reinhardo-sama, I'm starting to think that Mecklinger may just be the zenith of manliness...
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Mecklinger has been one of my favorites from a long time.
His horribly horrible hair cut and stash just attracted me to him.
Sad he gets so little screentime with how fun of a character he is.

The artistic Admiral.

Also Grillpanzy is a fuckwad.
 
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Ok, first the battle scenes. I know the strategy has so many faults but still, they kept me on the edge of my seat. I love Bittenfeld.

And then Reuenthal...I seriously started crying when the Tristan was being attacked, I thought 'no this is it for Reuenthal' and then he goes all badass pulling that metal bar from his chest. I just hope that he doesn't die in the next episode...I know all the foreshadowing (especially the narrator) is telling us that Reuenthal will in fact die...I will just ignore the narrator and hope for the best (I don't want Reuenthal to die!! ;-; )
 
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Not that it takes anything away from Reuental's awesomeness, but surely someone except me thought the way that metal bar came flying was rather unnatural?
 
Mar 11, 2012 7:42 PM

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Not that it takes anything away from Reuental's awesomeness, but surely someone except me thought the way that metal bar came flying was rather unnatural?

Seemed to be pretty straightforward with established LotGH ship design.

Lost track of how many people were crushed or impaled by falling beams in the bridge.
 
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Reuental ;_;
 
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Reuenthal is a true bro.
 
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Lost track of how many people were crushed or impaled by falling beams in the bridge.


I like the ones that get rolled over by the Roman Columns and Statues.
 
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I really don't understand all the love for Reuenthal. Basically on his side over 2 million soldiers died and who knows how many on the other side, all for his personal pride and manliness. In the end he doesn't even want to continue commanding his troops in a war he started, instead opting to forgo surgery and die of his wounds because apparently what real men do is die and leave others to take care of the mess. Where others see bravery I see vanity that killed millions. It's sad that it's come to this in a series that once didn't try to appeal to emotions with simple answers. But people seem to think that such blatant disregard for human life is a positive trait as long as the character doesn't whine when being impaled by a metal rod.

If anyone was awesome in this episode it was Mecklinger. Anyone with that haircut and moustache must be above the petty pride that has millions killed. And that alone makes him manlier than Reuenthal.
 
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I really don't understand all the love for Reuenthal. Basically on his side over 2 million soldiers died and who knows how many on the other side, all for his personal pride and manliness. In the end he doesn't even want to continue commanding his troops in a war he started, instead opting to forgo surgery and die of his wounds because apparently what real men do is die and leave others to take care of the mess. Where others see bravery I see vanity that killed millions. It's sad that it's come to this in a series that once didn't try to appeal to emotions with simple answers. But people seem to think that such blatant disregard for human life is a positive trait as long as the character doesn't whine when being impaled by a metal rod.

That's the reason I like him so much. He's vain, arrogant, and selfish (with self-loathing/self-destructive tendencies to boot). A complex character, perhaps not admirable, but very fascinating.
 
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Feorg said:
I really don't understand all the love for Reuenthal. Basically on his side over 2 million soldiers died and who knows how many on the other side, all for his personal pride and manliness. In the end he doesn't even want to continue commanding his troops in a war he started, instead opting to forgo surgery and die of his wounds because apparently what real men do is die and leave others to take care of the mess. Where others see bravery I see vanity that killed millions. It's sad that it's come to this in a series that once didn't try to appeal to emotions with simple answers. But people seem to think that such blatant disregard for human life is a positive trait as long as the character doesn't whine when being impaled by a metal rod.

If anyone was awesome in this episode it was Mecklinger. Anyone with that haircut and moustache must be above the petty pride that has millions killed. And that alone makes him manlier than Reuenthal.

Love the Mecklinger love.
 
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Feorg said:
I really don't understand all the love for Reuenthal.... Where others see bravery I see vanity that killed millions....


That's the reason I like him so much. He's vain, arrogant, and selfish (with self-loathing/self-destructive tendencies to boot). A complex character, perhaps not admirable, but very fascinating.


I can understand that, he is admittedly an interesting character. What I don't understand is his veneration as the epitome of admirable masculinity. In many ways he seems like Katerose, although for different reasons. She puts up a tough pose so that others wouldn't really see her insecurity. In her case it's probably a result of being so young in an environment dominated by men, Reuenthal has traumas that go much deeper. In the end he does stupid and inconsiderate things to avoid looking like a fool, and even when dying he seems to be brave more because of pride than inner peace. But pride is nothing; it's a way to see yourself in relation to others and their social ideas. He's too dependent on such ideas to be a true hero. In contrast, I think Mecklinger is a better model for masculinity because he's well-rounded: a poet, a historian, a soldier, a moustachioed stallion with a deep voice and a flowing mane, not ruled by what others might think of him. Or even Reinhard, although I don't care for his pompousness; he has a vision of how he wants to change the galaxy and makes his own future no matter what obstacles he may face. He's quite a Nietzschean character.
 
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Reuenthal said:
Regardless of the color of eyes or skin, the color of blood is the same for everyone, isn't it?


One of my favorite lines in the series. Let's reflect on the millions of members of the Imperial military, members of the FPA military, citizens of the Empire, nobles of the Goldenbaum Dynasty, people rebelling against Reinhard's kaisership, citizens of the Alliance, members of the coup d'etat against the Alliance, Terraists, and Phezzani that have died in the first 97 episodes -- because all of them are red-blooded humans.

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I can understand that, he is admittedly an interesting character.


That's my position. There's a wide difference between liking a character as a character and liking that character as a hypothetical living human being.
 
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Reuental > Kenshiro
 
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I literally gasped at 8:30, if you don't know what I'm talking about, just watch the episode (Or click the spoiler).

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That metal pierced through his whole body, and Reuenthal was able to pull it out without a flinch. Tragic injury.....sadly he won't be livng much longer :( but I fully respect Reuenthal as a brilliant and brave man.
 
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Man, Mecklinger should be getting more screen time . . . That guy is actually pretty wise. I feel like he usually actually grasps someone's intentions after this episode. Many of the other admirals guess as to what someone's intentions are but fall short as to what their true intentions are. Maybe then, instead of being an admiral, he should be an advisor to Reinhard . . . But oh well.
 
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Man, Mecklinger should be getting more screen time . . . That guy is actually pretty wise. I feel like he usually actually grasps someone's intentions after this episode. Many of the other admirals guess as to what someone's intentions are but fall short as to what their true intentions are. Maybe then, instead of being an admiral, he should be an advisor to Reinhard . . . But oh well.

It is interesting that you mention that since Mecklinger did serve as Reinhard's Chief of Staff in several occasions, such as in the end of the series. Keep an eye for him =p
 
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I can feel the death of Reuenthal coming.
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Reuental... to prideful for his own good. Too much sacrifice for his own vanity, all for naught. I hate Rubinsky and the despicable Terraists (who doesn't), but you gotta hand to the conspirators to have the great Reuental dance on their palms. And to think that Knapfstein and Grillpalzer should've been the next Twin Pillars, it makes you worry about the capability of the next generation.
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If anyone was awesome in this episode it was Mecklinger. Anyone with that haircut and moustache must be above the petty pride that has millions killed. And that alone makes him manlier than Reuenthal.
/preach
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Reuenthal deserves better than this. The weakest arc yet contributes to his downfall?

I hope Mecklinger reports his findings or this is just going to be a farce of a finish for a great character.
 
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SuperSaiyen said:
I don't get the logic of this show anymore.

It's bad being the traitor of a TRAITOR but it's ok to sacrifice millions of soldier just to prove a point.


When Yang died he thought about every single soldiers life that he had "killed". Reinhard and his autocrats only look at the deaths of fellow admirals when they reflect of the tragedies of the last 3 years.
 
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How the hell is he still alive lol.
 
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Grillpatzer takes the fall. In the end, his pride combined with Reuental's led to this unfortunate situation.

The only thing left for me to wonder is what Oberstein was planning for his trip to Heinessen with Lang.

And Mecklinger never gets to see any action.
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I don't understand the Reuenthal love...

I don't either.
I'm just going to assume Wakamoto Norio is the main reason why people love him, and if that's the case then I don't blame them.
 
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What a waste of time for Reuntal
 
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